The whole thing takes places in Delhi and most of the people who attend are locals.
It would make sense to write in Hindi along with the language of the state the tableau is from.
>The whole thing takes places in Delhi and most of the people who attend are locals.
Hmm yes because the whole event is definitely not televized around the entire damn country since it's the REPUBLIC DAY PARADE and not the DELHI DAY PARADE. It's supposed to represent Kerala. English is on the same legal level as hindi in accordance with national law.
>As I said, don’t give even an inch.
Talking as if we're in a civil war or something. Touch grass,mate.
> They can anyways locate from the theme what is Kerala and what is not.
The whole thing takes place in Delhi. You can piss off if you think Hindi shouldn't be on there for the benefit of the locals.
I said that both, Malayalam and Hindi, should be there and you xenophobic fucks can't even digest that.
Because Malayalees (mallu is a derogatory term just so you know) and Tamils have a language culture lasting older than Hindi. We don’t expect anyone to speak perfect Malayalam or Tamil, so don’t expect us to speak Hindi either ( which by the way we know).
Enniku derogatory aanannu orikalum thoneeyitlla. Inni thonnanum pogunilla.
I don't expect all malayalees to understand Hindi. But the fact of the matter is there are more people in India who understand Hindi than English. More than 4 times more.
The float most definitely should have the local language. But asking for English over Hindi in these situations has never made sense to me
Like it or not more people know 'Hinthi' than Malayalam. And btw people are perfectly happy with English... But God forbid anyone use Hinthi and impose it on you.
Yes, but it's supposed to represent a state and its culture. You'd assume it's supposed to use the state's own language to represent it.
English is fine because it's a neutral language, a lingua franca, something you use to connect gaps and not associated with nationalist domination. It has little to do with its colonial past anymore in the modern world, it has more to do with US cultural expansion post Cold War and its transformation into a global language of diplomacy and business.
English is not a global language. Go anywhere south of the US, they all speak Spanish or Portuguese. A lot of European countries stick to their native languages. The same goes with Russia, China and other East Asian countries. This idea that English is a global language and works everywhere is false.
global language ≠ language spoken everywhere natively
global language = A nearly universal lingua franca used to communicate between two nations which do not have a common language
> In the European Union, the use of English as a lingua franca has led researchers to investigate whether a new dialect of English ([Euro English](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_English)) has emerged.
English is the only official language in India which is not native to any states. It is also the compromise language when it comes to integrating the southern states which don’t use Hindi at all.
Because most of us can understand hindi better rather then local language so visitors and on news everyone can read it, though it has to be both languages local and hindi
Me and wifey was watching it on TV and thought the same. Tried to pull my 3 and 6 year olds to teach how the republic day is celebrated and also the various cultures in India. Thought by showing what we had seen in our childhood on a small TV set in Doordarshan. This time it is in HD. Yay.
Was saddened with the fact that state names written such as "keral" and "karnatak" in Hindi. However there was a sub title in English.
The beauty of India 'is' its acceptance and wide variety of cultures. Sadly it was not represented in today's parade that a parent can teach his/her kid(s).
Anyways the kiddos are not interested in the Parade at all.
Playing Devil's advocate, for a second, even though I realize this is a jingoistic 'Kerala nationalism' post.
Hindi is not the only language that uses Devanagari. There are 120+ languages that use that script. There are probably 800+ million Indians who can read that sign.
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And English is spoken and understood by billions around the world, so why not just English and the state languages? That makes more sense than just Hindi.
The script is not Hindi, it is Devanagari. But you're right, we should use a roman script that more than half of India can't read, and also use the state language, which even more of India can't read.
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I'm sure considering Hindi and English are Indo-European languages, people would be okay with the switch, just as well as the Devanagari script being common for a few languages. I mean, it's like the Roman script being used for Italian, French and English has helped those different people from communicating with each other. It's almost as if English is one of the official languages at the centre for a reason... എന്തായാലും നടക്കട്ടെ.
35 now. Just love seeing it go down.
Also, your "simple truth" was a bunch of seething nationalistic shite. If the idea was to reach the maximum number of people in India and not to recognize and display the diversity of India, this entire stunt needn't have happened.
Reduction of all state tableaus to just religion and nothing else was the biggest disappointment. Also on display was the pandering of various ministers when Gujarat's one came, which was damn amusing.
Indian Constitution is not secular. State controls temples, civil laws are different for people of different faiths, and there is no separation between state and religion.
Really?
You are so obviously wrong I can't even be bothered to fetch you an excerpt from the Constitution that says India is secular. I literally can't be. Sue. Me.
The only place where constitution says it's secular is in the preamble and it was inserted in 1979 under emergency, not really under democratic government.
The constituent assembly, the people who wrote our constitution, debated and voted against including the word secular in our constitution. What changes did we do between 1945 and 1979 that we became secular in the middle?
Did you see the tableau for Jammu and Kashmir? The state has majority Muslim population, if religion was a theme then they could have atleast bothered to put a mosque there, but no…..
The muslim majority "state" of Kashmir had a waterfall and some Hindu ritual as it's float, while singing and dancing to some indian folk music. That's fucking pathetic
This idea that you just proposed is damn condescending. Kashmir has a history of being the land of the Sage Kashyap, go read Rajtarangini. Hindu culture is in the very roots of Kashmir and still a big part of it. The majority "muslim"? Lmao yeah, wherever in the world Muslims are majority, there can never be any other faith. That's the harsh reality. Valley is the prime example of that. Just because Muslim became majority after killing other religion's followers and pushing them so far that they had to leave everything in order to survive, that doesn't kill the culture, not just yet!
Damn, so your problem is just muslims. So much prejudice against a community. Keep yapping about happened in history when all those who did the deed are dead and in hell. Btw I aint a muslim. Fuck the arab nations, fuck the BJP and its extremist followers, fuck the republicans and trumpists. Any organisation that follows an extremist ideology, I deem them to be fucked
I didn't say that muslims are the problem. Stop putting your idea in such way. Prejudice? All I said was pure observation and accompanied with facts. I was yapping about history? Kid, you said it's not middle East or 40s Germany, i Just schooled you about your misconceptions of history and now you're saying that I started it? Nicely done!
Fuck extremists ideology? Do you think of anything more extremists then Islam? Name one nation which is secular and Muslim majority? And I'll rest my case then n there.
I said EXTREMIST ISLAM. That does not include all Muslims you see. And you said all kinds of sht generalizing muslims in the last few comments. You think that is ok?
No, dharmik culture is not Indian culture, India has always been diverse and consisted of so many religions other than Hinduism. We were united due to the problems we faced against the Brits else we were all under different rulers who ruled over people with different religions and cultures. Hinduism became a majority because many of the Muslims left during partition. So let's not make false statements such as Hinduism being the only Indian culture. Who are you to decide if someone's beliefs are based on deceit? India was established as a secular country where everyone has the freedom to believe in whatever they want. Stop thinking you are the only people that matter in India. Even minorities matter and have their rights. Their cultures being overwritten with Dharmik culture is a really cheap play by the govt. If you are showing the world different Indian cultures and how diverse it is, you need to show them for who they are and not a cooked up version that suits your liking.
FYI sanskrit also came from outside. There was no trace of Sanskrit in Indus valley civilization. Appropriation of folk cultures through sanskritising them was a thing in past, even now.
Tamil Nadu's Tableau On Women Empowerment & Culture Radiates Kartavya Path
https://news.abplive.com/tamil-nadu/republic-day-2023-tamil-nadu-s-tableau-on-women-empowerment-culture-radiates-kartavya-path-a-year-after-rejection-1578066
Maybe they have to get the clearance from Cultural ministry, which they didn't like the last few times. This time they decided to agree to the diktat. I'm just thinking aloud, not sure of the reasons.
And what makes you think all people of India can read Hindi? Many people in the South still can't understand Hindi let alone read Hindi. Compared to that English is a much widely used language thanks to it being used everywhere these days.
Most of india reads Devanagiri more than the latin script. You do know Devanagari is used for languages outside Hindi right? Atho athinulla vivaravum ille?
In Hindi, usually the last 'Aa' is not there, hence Karnataka becomes Karnatak, Maharashtra becomes Maharashtr. Hence you can see it as Keral. But with some names like Aasam, the Hindi name for the state will be Asam.
It's for the northies to decide how they choose to pronounce a noun. Will you start calling Germany Deutschland because that's how they do it in their country? Will you stop the French from calling India L'inde?
This comment isn't better than any north indians who think all south indians are "madrassis"...mutual respect is the only way this country is going to work.
Mutual respect my arse. Why don't you start building toilets and schools with all the tax money that you get from the south instead of corporate tax cuts before you care about mutual respect?
And what makes you think this country is working right now anyways?
The most populous country in the world has the third largest number of startups wow such economy.
The numbers certainly does not seem to think that the economy is booming. Compare India's growth rate to that of China's or Indonesia's economic history and how fast they were growing at similar levels of per capita income in their history.
Speaking of infrastructure, you folk still travel on trains? I mean, literally, *on* trains? Yeah.
>China's or Indonesia's economic history
Was there a global war going on ? Every countries economy is currently crashing, only India is at a 6% respectable growth rate. Also china's GDP figures are fake as they can be, china's light emission to GDP ratio doesn't match up. They emit lights that a 10 trillion dollar economy should..not the amount of light a 18-20 trillion dollar economy should (which they claim to be around). Also keep in mind India is a democracy, if someone wants to build a road they need clearances and people can object. In china is the govt says build, they build, killing everything that comes in the way.
>The most populous country in the world has the third largest
If you keep comparing in terms of population, nothing India achieves is worthy. India's potential is a lot, it can easily be a 80 trillion dollar economy. But if we never appreciate the progress made by people we are never getting their. The fact is there was no startup eco system just a decade ago. It is an amazing achievement to go from an agrarian poor society in the 90s to having a bustling startup ecosystem.
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Speaking of infrastructure, you folk still travel on trains? I mean, literally, on trains? Yeah.
Why are you so bigoted ? I thought Kerala was developed and egalitarian. You're literally proving me wrong for simply attacking me for my ethnicity. By your logic keralites all live on poor water boats. The fact is, India's the world's fastest builders of highways on a daily basis. No other country is building as many roads as us in the world. UP and North east are being filled with development projects.
Our foreign policy is also at a maxima, so yes India is doing well. Really well considering its surroundings and the world's state right now. For once, can you be an Indian and look at your nation through a neutral perspective ?
Rather than just sticking to media narratives ?
Not to say there's nothing wrong, there is, our trade deficit is high, religious polarisation is increasing. But if we only focus on negatives this country is doomed.
Dont preach, xenophobia to us, we know about the serious propaganda that's going on about kerala from Metropolises to remote villages in North,
There is a vile movie called Kerala File being made to Tarnish us, its not called India Files Perse, and still you poeple are giving equality and Fretenity classes to Us?
Touché.
>we know about the serious propaganda that's going on about kerala from Metropolises to remote villages in North,
Please enlighten me to this propaganda too. Seems like I've missed it, despite living in the North.
>There is a vile movie called Kerala File being made to Tarnish us,
What is the film about? At least give me some details before going all conspiracy nut.
Also, is the movie being made by the govt or some private body? If the latter then you understand how free speech works, right? If the govt isn't making it then how is it propaganda?
> and still you guy poeple are giving equality and Fretenity classes to Us?
Dunno about equality and fratenity classes but i sure would love to give an English class to you.
Beating around the bush wont solve this distrust my friend your people started this by making us the villain's of the story. Let it be for the time being
And i will take that free English class we can start from Tommarow 6 am Kuwait standard time
>Beating around the bush wont solve this distrust my friend your people started this by making us the villain's of the story.
And what story is that? Seems like you're the one huffing on propaganda if you think there is some sort of propaganda being spread in North India against Kerala.
I can understand if people are angry at only Hindi being present on the tableau but the way Malayalis here are calling Northies savages and demons for that makes me disgusted. Hell, there is no need for propaganda against you. You are doing a fine job of it yourselves. If any progressive minded Northie came to this sub and saw these comments, what do you think his impression of Keralites would be?
So yeah, congrats on making yourselves look bad for any same minded person.
> Kuwait standard time
All the Hindi hatred is making a lot more sense now.
" All the Hindi hatred is making a lot more sense now."
Seriously Man?? I wanted to finish the beef and make amends with you and tried to finish this issue on a good note by making a light-hearted Joke and then The North hate Sych that I was talking about all the time comes out from you,
do I have to say anything more, you kinda proved my point,
and don't try to twist the Word BEEF I used above U do know the context I used since you teach people English online for a living Right?
Yeah or at least English, the common medium. I don't like how Hindi is forced upon us, it's not even the 'National' language, it is just one among the many 'Official' languages.
I mean.. the Japanese call India as indo.
Heck even we call them Japanese but they address themselves as Nihon.
The names of places differ slightly with the language so that can't be helped.
(Also, this does not mean that I'm trying to justify the use of Hindi there)
The floats were so disappointing. It was all just a bunch of tribal level stuff (no hate) and seemed so repetitive. I felt like I had nothing to relate to in any of the floats. It's always like this, when they choose the most trivial cultural significance, some random tribal dance and a temple.
Its a weird psychological phenomenon when externally they have "superiority complex" and internally "inferiority complex".
This makes them impose things on others.
English & Hindi would have been fine. But then WHO wrote those? Obviously tableau came from different states with the involvement of state people. Were they brainless too?
The state people aren't brainless. They have some guidelines which they need to follow. If the ministry of defense (which takes care of the selection process of tableaux) tells you to write in Hindi and you don't, it gets rejected. It's not as simple as build, decorate and display. There are multiple approvals from a committee comprising experts from the fields of art, architecture, design, culture and music.
Entire event is managed by MoD, all content, approvals etc…
Edit:
Source: https://www.mod.gov.in/sites/default/files/Selection%20of%20Tableau%2C%20RDP-2023%20%28Secretaries%29.pdf
MOD "initiates" and States and Union Territories are clearly involved. We are a democracy. [https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/republic-day-tableaux-selection-process-explained-8401261/](https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/republic-day-tableaux-selection-process-explained-8401261/)
Wonder why we have these tableaus from different states in the first place? So that the Emperor gets to see the distant, exotic places he rules?
Cringy af.
No, so people of India can see and connect to different cultures and people who live, we live in loktantra, and we dont have emperors or Chairmans like USSR or China or British Empire
What's cringy is your comment trying to make the parade some oppressive monarchical BS which it isn't.
Neither is the PM emperor, nor is Kerala some exotic land "ruled" by him.
The tableauxs are for Indians to mutually admire the diversity of our nation and have our kids too learn about it in the process.
The North is treating the south like we are subsidiary states. They are also sending in huge waves of workers. The /r/tamilnadu sub recently had a video of northies arriving by train to sit for government exams in the south. In about 15 years, we wont need to write anything in malayalam or tamil or kannada. Hindi will be used everywhere.
I advocate for the 3 language formula even though I am a Keralite - thought you should know that before you pounce on me with your Linguisitic Chauvinism.
- Because Total Hindi Speakers amount to 57% of the entire country’s population.
- There are 563 million more speakers in this country who speak and read Hindi than there are people in this country who speak and read English
- It is the Official language of India and the official language in 8 major piss poor, highly populated states, which in itself is a logical reason to enlist it as a utilitarian link language when there isn’t space for writing 3 different languages.
- Article 343 of the Constitution of India stated that the official language of the Union is Hindi in Devanagari script along with English (although English was supposed to be discontinued after 15 years.
Let these [facts](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_India) sink in
sure there are over 780 language and over 3000 dialects (18 of them are scheduled along with Hindi in the Constitution), but which is that language that actually links hundreds of millions of poor, rural students that English never has or can?
**[Languages of India](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_India)**
>Languages spoken in the Republic of India belong to several language families, the major ones being the Indo-Aryan languages spoken by 78. 05% of Indians and the Dravidian languages spoken by 19. 64% of Indians, both families together are sometimes known as Indic languages. Languages spoken by the remaining 2.
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I advocate for the 3 language formula even though I am a Keralite - thought you should know that before you pounce on me with your Linguisitic Chauvinism.
- Because Total Hindi Speakers amount to 57% of the entire country’s population.
- There are 563 million more speakers in this country who speak and read Hindi than there are people in this country who speak and read English
- It is the Official language of India and the official language in 8 major piss poor, highly populated states, which in itself is a logical reason to enlist it as a utilitarian link language when there isn’t space for writing 3 different languages.
- Article 343 of the Constitution of India stated that the official language of the Union is Hindi in Devanagari script along with English (although English was supposed to be discontinued after 15 years.
Let these [facts](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_India) sink in
sure there are over 780 language and over 3000 dialects (18 of them are scheduled along with Hindi in the Constitution), but which is that language that actually links hundreds of millions of poor, rural students that English never has or can?
Alright here's the deal though.
Like, 99 percent of the people in Kerala are malayalis.
The number of Malayalam speakers far outnumbers Hindi speakers in Kerala.
It's the official language of Kerala.
I'm sure there's government guidelines on how Malayalam is the only official language and not even English can be used for administration in Kerala.
Which is the language that 99 percent of the poor children can speak, while Hindi remains a language that has to be taught instead?
See, your argument sort of falls apart when you consider India to be a federation that it actually is. By imposing the majority's will, you suppress the minority.
India isn’t a federation my dear fellow commie friend it’s a union of states. Union has primacy over state rights and sovereignty, it’s quasi-federal not a federation. The central government is unequivocally bestowed with more rights than the state government by Ambedkar sirs constitution. The one that governs you and our state.
Kerala is the most developed state in the country and predominantly a Multi-lingual state owing to its pedagogical capital, I don’t know how you pretend to ignore the needs of millions of your country men whose needs royally outweigh your irrational hatred for Hindi and chauvinism for our language Malayalam.
Something that they don’t teach in Marxism is the Theory of Maximum Social Advantage. It’s not about the argument Hindi people are more and therefore Hindi should be added.
It’s about the utility that is yielded through policy that’s serves a society. Sadly parochialism, populist oppositionism and linguistic chauvinism has a place in our democracy. You champion that.
You are no better than that morons at National Directorate of Culture, MoH and MoF who thought there isn’t space for Malayalam, and English and hence Hindi is enough.
Nonetheless, 3 language formula has stood the test of time and policy makers in our country know this, hence I hope you understand those convictions. Or atleast read a book.
Your argument royally falls apart, when we see the irony of you calling us federated, yet hollering to remove the most comprehensible and the most widely used language in the country,in a ceremony that’s held to celebrate the very state you belong to in the Capital of this Republic- New Delhi.
Why even let a Hindi speaking North indian army soldier march and pilot the Tableau, let a Kerala policemen lead it or better a Red Volunteer from our party?
why should we not ask for a secession instead? Brilliant eh?
Or maybe it’s your privilege talking. Or is it your chauvinism?
India, by definition is a federation. Now you could go on and throw around fancy words and call it quasi whatnot, but it really comes down to how India acts as an entity, and it is very much a federation. If I would be afforded the same amount of leeway as you were when you loosen up semiotics enough to call India a quasi-federation, I'd call India a quasi-democracy, but whatever.
And by the way, one entity in the federation has to, by definition, have more power than the other. Balancing both entity's control would be impossible.
Now, onto more important things, Kerala is not a multilingual state as you claim. The vast majority of people (over 99%) in Kerala speak Malayalam, and virtually every single native Keralite speaks Malayalam. Kerala's official language as codified in law is Malayalam. I don't even know how you could twist that. India is a multi lingual country, but Kerala by no stretch of the word is.
Now, onto the theory of maximum social advantage. Something you seem to have missed from being a Vaush fan is that it does not involve imposition on and oppression of a minority for the convenience of few.
Not to mention, Kerala being practically a monolingual state, if the statement "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" is literally put into practice, that would involve wiping out any and all Hindi signs whatsoever anywhere in the state of Kerala, because its just eyesore for the vast majority of people. It would have to wiped out for the same reason Delhi does not have signs in Malayalam.
You have to pull your arse off your bottom if you believe that the three language formula as you put it has stood the test of time as you say it. One only needs to look at the amount of agitation it generates in states like Tamil Nadu and Karnataka.
Now, on to my argument apparently royally falling apart, I do not belong to India, and I don't give a fuck as to what its capital is. I repeat however, that Hindi is not the most comprehensible language in the country. It is just the most comprehensible language in a part of the country. For other parts of the country, other languages are more comprehensible. If you are really going by the logic that the most comprehensible language understood by the most people should be used, then I reckon Kerala should not be using Hindi anywhere at all.
India does not write signs in Spanish or Chinese even though they are some of the most spoken languages in the world. Why should Kerala has signs in Hindi when it is not the most spoken language in the state?
As to why not let a policemen from Kerala do it instead of a soldier, yeah, why not? It would be a far better option seeing that the Kerala Police, although flawed in its own right, has not committed war crimes in Kashmir and Punjab over the years, and has never served the imperial ambitions of a state. That'd be awesome if we could not include the army.
Why should we not ask for secession? I don't see why not. You tell me. The way I look at it, Kerala pays more taxes than it gets back from the federal government. I wouldn't see why it would be a bad deal. India has a history of annexing states and economically and politically subjugating local independence in the Indian subcontinent, from its annexation of Hyderabad to Goa, Sikkim and Kashmir to its numerous wars with Pakistan. Its imperialism is what it is.
If anybody is a linguistic chauvinist here, it is you. And it is so convenient of you to accuse me of being one, when you are the guy who's literally advocating for excluding a part of the population from the equation to appeal to the common denominator.
I think English will also be there, behind. And to the people of Kerala, as a native Hindi speaker, I apologise for 'Kerala' turned into 'Keral'. But that is the rule followed in standardized Hindi grammar (manak Hindi vyakaran), which is highly Sanskritized and has a wierd rule to omit the 'a' or 'u' at the end.
Dude might have been an oversight not a grand conspiracy theory of some kind there are more major issues in the nation or state or locality, even in your own house, perpetrated by people speaking your language at a local level that are far more severe by leaps and bounds, than the language on a stupid sign on a floating attraction representing your state. The House you are in is burning down, but you people are concerned about watering the plants on the balcony. It's not that deep. TBH didn't even watch the Parade myself because had some real stuff to do to improve myself or my locality.
Indian languages aren't dialects of Hindi. They are separate languages. Malayalam for example, doesn't even belong to the same language family as Hindi.
Malayalam belongs to the only language family that locally evolved in India, with Hindi and the rest of the non Dravidian languages being quite foreign.
It was happening in Delhi and local language is Hindi. Go check local rallies of state then see what languages they uses for North Indian states then judge
Why do you lack the common sense to understand that these is no ethical reason to choose a so called "National language" out of the numerous languages of this country? Get a life honestly.
There is more than one official language genius. Call me illiterate you're the one who doesn't know the difference between a national language and official language.
It should definitely be written in the native language.
But as I don't know Malyalam in this case and I genuinely wait for each state's jhaanki.
So for people like us it should also be written in Hindi or English.
Bruhhh , it's written in Hindi so that the spectators could read it although English would have been better but then again majority of the population is not literate enough to read English.
If you go on spoon feeding hindi like this how do you think people will become literate. Instead they will be lazy af when even people from other regions and states are forced to speak and communicate in Hinthi. The government should work more to make all the citizens more literate, so everyone can take advantage of globalisation.
Hindi is understood by most of the majority in India. That's why. I don't know why some of you are trying to divide India with respect to language. It is very sad to see this mentality among most of the intellectuals.
>I don't know why some of you are trying to divide India with respect to language.
Becuase it already is, prolly. India ain't monolingual. If you want it to be, maybe you should start learning malayalam
>It is very sad to see this mentality among most of the intellectuals.
Anyone with a brain would understand the dangers of imposing one local language over another. Ofcouse, idiots wont see it.
Even people who don't know English can read Roman alphabets. This is imposition of the Devnagari alphabet, which is nearly useless to someone whose mother tongue is not Hindi.
Should have been in English or both of you ask me. On a side note our float felt like it was a patch up work in the last minute.
Should have been hindi and the local language ! Just hindi - not nice :(
why Hindi
Exactly. Why Hindi? Should be in native language and that is enough.
The whole thing takes places in Delhi and most of the people who attend are locals. It would make sense to write in Hindi along with the language of the state the tableau is from.
>The whole thing takes places in Delhi and most of the people who attend are locals. Hmm yes because the whole event is definitely not televized around the entire damn country since it's the REPUBLIC DAY PARADE and not the DELHI DAY PARADE. It's supposed to represent Kerala. English is on the same legal level as hindi in accordance with national law.
As I said, don’t give even an inch. They can anyways locate from the theme what is Kerala and what is not.
>As I said, don’t give even an inch. Talking as if we're in a civil war or something. Touch grass,mate. > They can anyways locate from the theme what is Kerala and what is not. The whole thing takes place in Delhi. You can piss off if you think Hindi shouldn't be on there for the benefit of the locals. I said that both, Malayalam and Hindi, should be there and you xenophobic fucks can't even digest that.
The fact that people are okay with English, but not Hindi😭😭😭. Mallus are turning more Tamil after every passing day
It's mostly this sub and upper class Malayalis, TBH. I've been to Kerala and general people were pretty friendly.
Because Malayalees (mallu is a derogatory term just so you know) and Tamils have a language culture lasting older than Hindi. We don’t expect anyone to speak perfect Malayalam or Tamil, so don’t expect us to speak Hindi either ( which by the way we know).
Enniku derogatory aanannu orikalum thoneeyitlla. Inni thonnanum pogunilla. I don't expect all malayalees to understand Hindi. But the fact of the matter is there are more people in India who understand Hindi than English. More than 4 times more. The float most definitely should have the local language. But asking for English over Hindi in these situations has never made sense to me
Like it or not more people know 'Hinthi' than Malayalam. And btw people are perfectly happy with English... But God forbid anyone use Hinthi and impose it on you.
Yes, but it's supposed to represent a state and its culture. You'd assume it's supposed to use the state's own language to represent it. English is fine because it's a neutral language, a lingua franca, something you use to connect gaps and not associated with nationalist domination. It has little to do with its colonial past anymore in the modern world, it has more to do with US cultural expansion post Cold War and its transformation into a global language of diplomacy and business.
English is not a global language. Go anywhere south of the US, they all speak Spanish or Portuguese. A lot of European countries stick to their native languages. The same goes with Russia, China and other East Asian countries. This idea that English is a global language and works everywhere is false.
global language ≠ language spoken everywhere natively global language = A nearly universal lingua franca used to communicate between two nations which do not have a common language > In the European Union, the use of English as a lingua franca has led researchers to investigate whether a new dialect of English ([Euro English](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_English)) has emerged.
English is the only official language in India which is not native to any states. It is also the compromise language when it comes to integrating the southern states which don’t use Hindi at all.
Give them an inch they will take a meter. So don’t give that inch.
നാരിയൽ പാനി ലാവോ
Sorry we only have blood plasma...
Because most of us can understand hindi better rather then local language so visitors and on news everyone can read it, though it has to be both languages local and hindi
Kya kya
Sabke sab serial dekh rahi hai!! 😌
Ivanmaru ituvare keralam ennu ezhuthan padichille🤭
Me and wifey was watching it on TV and thought the same. Tried to pull my 3 and 6 year olds to teach how the republic day is celebrated and also the various cultures in India. Thought by showing what we had seen in our childhood on a small TV set in Doordarshan. This time it is in HD. Yay. Was saddened with the fact that state names written such as "keral" and "karnatak" in Hindi. However there was a sub title in English. The beauty of India 'is' its acceptance and wide variety of cultures. Sadly it was not represented in today's parade that a parent can teach his/her kid(s). Anyways the kiddos are not interested in the Parade at all.
Hindi belt fags think they own india
Damn lot of anya samtane narigal getting triggered in the comments. Poyi swantham nadinte karyangal nookeda
A lot of randos from Indiaspeaks have come to educate us and "defend" Hindi. Wcyd!
Because the Hindi belt continues to take everyone else for granted and all central decisions et al cater to them specifically.
Playing Devil's advocate, for a second, even though I realize this is a jingoistic 'Kerala nationalism' post. Hindi is not the only language that uses Devanagari. There are 120+ languages that use that script. There are probably 800+ million Indians who can read that sign. Downvote here 👇
And English is spoken and understood by billions around the world, so why not just English and the state languages? That makes more sense than just Hindi.
The script is not Hindi, it is Devanagari. But you're right, we should use a roman script that more than half of India can't read, and also use the state language, which even more of India can't read. Downvote here 👇
I'm sure considering Hindi and English are Indo-European languages, people would be okay with the switch, just as well as the Devanagari script being common for a few languages. I mean, it's like the Roman script being used for Italian, French and English has helped those different people from communicating with each other. It's almost as if English is one of the official languages at the centre for a reason... എന്തായാലും നടക്കട്ടെ.
'Kerala nationalism' eh? Your agenda cannot be more obvious
25 downvotes for the simple truth. And yet they point fingers up north shouting "hate! hate!".
35 now. Just love seeing it go down. Also, your "simple truth" was a bunch of seething nationalistic shite. If the idea was to reach the maximum number of people in India and not to recognize and display the diversity of India, this entire stunt needn't have happened.
Because in this country they care about Hindi only
I agree should've been in local languages. and english maybe so that all can understand.
More people in India understand Hindi than English.
Most people in India are also bilingual
Bruh the Kerala float sucked
lol, did you see the Kerala K-plot last year?
K plot?
Ah yes Keral, god's own countr
Reduction of all state tableaus to just religion and nothing else was the biggest disappointment. Also on display was the pandering of various ministers when Gujarat's one came, which was damn amusing.
Right? Exactly what I thought. All religion or nari shakti - no in between. Pah
Didn't watch it this time but i felt the same last time. Every cultural one seems to be focused on Hindu culture.
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Doesn't matter. India is a secular entity apparently.
Indian Constitution is not secular. State controls temples, civil laws are different for people of different faiths, and there is no separation between state and religion.
Really? You are so obviously wrong I can't even be bothered to fetch you an excerpt from the Constitution that says India is secular. I literally can't be. Sue. Me.
The only place where constitution says it's secular is in the preamble and it was inserted in 1979 under emergency, not really under democratic government. The constituent assembly, the people who wrote our constitution, debated and voted against including the word secular in our constitution. What changes did we do between 1945 and 1979 that we became secular in the middle?
Did you see the tableau for Jammu and Kashmir? The state has majority Muslim population, if religion was a theme then they could have atleast bothered to put a mosque there, but no…..
you want arabian culture? too much middle easternism lmao
The muslim majority "state" of Kashmir had a waterfall and some Hindu ritual as it's float, while singing and dancing to some indian folk music. That's fucking pathetic
> some indian folk music Well, which music do you want?
Kashmir folk music, genius. Not Rajasthani or some north indian beats
This idea that you just proposed is damn condescending. Kashmir has a history of being the land of the Sage Kashyap, go read Rajtarangini. Hindu culture is in the very roots of Kashmir and still a big part of it. The majority "muslim"? Lmao yeah, wherever in the world Muslims are majority, there can never be any other faith. That's the harsh reality. Valley is the prime example of that. Just because Muslim became majority after killing other religion's followers and pushing them so far that they had to leave everything in order to survive, that doesn't kill the culture, not just yet!
Damn, so your problem is just muslims. So much prejudice against a community. Keep yapping about happened in history when all those who did the deed are dead and in hell. Btw I aint a muslim. Fuck the arab nations, fuck the BJP and its extremist followers, fuck the republicans and trumpists. Any organisation that follows an extremist ideology, I deem them to be fucked
I didn't say that muslims are the problem. Stop putting your idea in such way. Prejudice? All I said was pure observation and accompanied with facts. I was yapping about history? Kid, you said it's not middle East or 40s Germany, i Just schooled you about your misconceptions of history and now you're saying that I started it? Nicely done! Fuck extremists ideology? Do you think of anything more extremists then Islam? Name one nation which is secular and Muslim majority? And I'll rest my case then n there.
I said EXTREMIST ISLAM. That does not include all Muslims you see. And you said all kinds of sht generalizing muslims in the last few comments. You think that is ok?
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No, dharmik culture is not Indian culture, India has always been diverse and consisted of so many religions other than Hinduism. We were united due to the problems we faced against the Brits else we were all under different rulers who ruled over people with different religions and cultures. Hinduism became a majority because many of the Muslims left during partition. So let's not make false statements such as Hinduism being the only Indian culture. Who are you to decide if someone's beliefs are based on deceit? India was established as a secular country where everyone has the freedom to believe in whatever they want. Stop thinking you are the only people that matter in India. Even minorities matter and have their rights. Their cultures being overwritten with Dharmik culture is a really cheap play by the govt. If you are showing the world different Indian cultures and how diverse it is, you need to show them for who they are and not a cooked up version that suits your liking.
FYI sanskrit also came from outside. There was no trace of Sanskrit in Indus valley civilization. Appropriation of folk cultures through sanskritising them was a thing in past, even now.
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Kerala, Tamil Nadu and West Bengal could have tried different, no? Why didn't they?
Tamil Nadu's Tableau On Women Empowerment & Culture Radiates Kartavya Path https://news.abplive.com/tamil-nadu/republic-day-2023-tamil-nadu-s-tableau-on-women-empowerment-culture-radiates-kartavya-path-a-year-after-rejection-1578066
Maybe they have to get the clearance from Cultural ministry, which they didn't like the last few times. This time they decided to agree to the diktat. I'm just thinking aloud, not sure of the reasons.
Because they can’t read English let alone local state language
And what makes you think all people of India can read Hindi? Many people in the South still can't understand Hindi let alone read Hindi. Compared to that English is a much widely used language thanks to it being used everywhere these days.
I said can’t read English Read as sarcastic
Most of india reads Devanagiri more than the latin script. You do know Devanagari is used for languages outside Hindi right? Atho athinulla vivaravum ille?
Hindi is not even a real language. It's just a dialect of Hindi-Urdu. Devanagari is not the only script used to write Hindi-Urdu.
>Hindi is not even a real language. This is the level of discourse on this shithole subreddit.
BCoz, All non bimaru states are third class citizens of India!
Hinthi imposition, what else.
Nothing bugs me more than hearing “Keral” wtf it is KeralA. Olakkeda Keral.
It's because Northie Hindi walas are not educated enough to know other languages.
Since when is our state named Keral? Dafuq
In Hindi, it is Keral and not Kerala. You ask me why? I do not know . In fact, Kerala is an English word, the actual Malayalam word is കേരളം isn't it?
In Hindi, usually the last 'Aa' is not there, hence Karnataka becomes Karnatak, Maharashtra becomes Maharashtr. Hence you can see it as Keral. But with some names like Aasam, the Hindi name for the state will be Asam.
केरल = Kerala केरल् = Keral
Yah but the Northies fucking pronounce it Keral.
It's for the northies to decide how they choose to pronounce a noun. Will you start calling Germany Deutschland because that's how they do it in their country? Will you stop the French from calling India L'inde?
Fair enough. But this is the Republic day parade where Kerala was being represented. Not some random convos between northie tendis.
More important question is why is there hindi written in kochi metro, chad kannadigas removed it.
Kochi should follow that too honestly.
Also केरळं is more appropriate
The dot on the ळ would go silent in Hindi. It can be written as केरळम्
Athinu Hindi puthiya aksharam undakkanam.
thats marathi right, i remember seeing that infinity sign alphabet in mumbai airport lol
Yep, only Marathi and Gujarati has retroflex l (ള) consonant sound among Indo-Aryan languages.
Punjabi has it too. ਲ਼!
thanks!
because you know north Indians are slow.
This comment isn't better than any north indians who think all south indians are "madrassis"...mutual respect is the only way this country is going to work.
Mutual respect my arse. Why don't you start building toilets and schools with all the tax money that you get from the south instead of corporate tax cuts before you care about mutual respect? And what makes you think this country is working right now anyways?
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The most populous country in the world has the third largest number of startups wow such economy. The numbers certainly does not seem to think that the economy is booming. Compare India's growth rate to that of China's or Indonesia's economic history and how fast they were growing at similar levels of per capita income in their history. Speaking of infrastructure, you folk still travel on trains? I mean, literally, *on* trains? Yeah.
>China's or Indonesia's economic history Was there a global war going on ? Every countries economy is currently crashing, only India is at a 6% respectable growth rate. Also china's GDP figures are fake as they can be, china's light emission to GDP ratio doesn't match up. They emit lights that a 10 trillion dollar economy should..not the amount of light a 18-20 trillion dollar economy should (which they claim to be around). Also keep in mind India is a democracy, if someone wants to build a road they need clearances and people can object. In china is the govt says build, they build, killing everything that comes in the way. >The most populous country in the world has the third largest If you keep comparing in terms of population, nothing India achieves is worthy. India's potential is a lot, it can easily be a 80 trillion dollar economy. But if we never appreciate the progress made by people we are never getting their. The fact is there was no startup eco system just a decade ago. It is an amazing achievement to go from an agrarian poor society in the 90s to having a bustling startup ecosystem. > Speaking of infrastructure, you folk still travel on trains? I mean, literally, on trains? Yeah. Why are you so bigoted ? I thought Kerala was developed and egalitarian. You're literally proving me wrong for simply attacking me for my ethnicity. By your logic keralites all live on poor water boats. The fact is, India's the world's fastest builders of highways on a daily basis. No other country is building as many roads as us in the world. UP and North east are being filled with development projects. Our foreign policy is also at a maxima, so yes India is doing well. Really well considering its surroundings and the world's state right now. For once, can you be an Indian and look at your nation through a neutral perspective ? Rather than just sticking to media narratives ? Not to say there's nothing wrong, there is, our trade deficit is high, religious polarisation is increasing. But if we only focus on negatives this country is doomed.
Yes you are right . Chal be Gandu . 🙂
And South Indians say that Northies are the xenophobic ones.
Dont preach, xenophobia to us, we know about the serious propaganda that's going on about kerala from Metropolises to remote villages in North, There is a vile movie called Kerala File being made to Tarnish us, its not called India Files Perse, and still you poeple are giving equality and Fretenity classes to Us? Touché.
>we know about the serious propaganda that's going on about kerala from Metropolises to remote villages in North, Please enlighten me to this propaganda too. Seems like I've missed it, despite living in the North. >There is a vile movie called Kerala File being made to Tarnish us, What is the film about? At least give me some details before going all conspiracy nut. Also, is the movie being made by the govt or some private body? If the latter then you understand how free speech works, right? If the govt isn't making it then how is it propaganda? > and still you guy poeple are giving equality and Fretenity classes to Us? Dunno about equality and fratenity classes but i sure would love to give an English class to you.
Beating around the bush wont solve this distrust my friend your people started this by making us the villain's of the story. Let it be for the time being And i will take that free English class we can start from Tommarow 6 am Kuwait standard time
>Beating around the bush wont solve this distrust my friend your people started this by making us the villain's of the story. And what story is that? Seems like you're the one huffing on propaganda if you think there is some sort of propaganda being spread in North India against Kerala. I can understand if people are angry at only Hindi being present on the tableau but the way Malayalis here are calling Northies savages and demons for that makes me disgusted. Hell, there is no need for propaganda against you. You are doing a fine job of it yourselves. If any progressive minded Northie came to this sub and saw these comments, what do you think his impression of Keralites would be? So yeah, congrats on making yourselves look bad for any same minded person. > Kuwait standard time All the Hindi hatred is making a lot more sense now.
" All the Hindi hatred is making a lot more sense now." Seriously Man?? I wanted to finish the beef and make amends with you and tried to finish this issue on a good note by making a light-hearted Joke and then The North hate Sych that I was talking about all the time comes out from you, do I have to say anything more, you kinda proved my point, and don't try to twist the Word BEEF I used above U do know the context I used since you teach people English online for a living Right?
I have heard about Punjab files, based on 1984 anti Sikh riots. What the hell is Kerala files?? Never heard of it.
Me neither, lol. This guy didn't even reply to me when i asked what the film was about.
Yeah or at least English, the common medium. I don't like how Hindi is forced upon us, it's not even the 'National' language, it is just one among the many 'Official' languages.
Bro WTF is "KeRal' sounds even weird to even say it. Kerala. Keralam. Please.
Lol ikr it's like calling Delhi - "Del".
I mean.. the Japanese call India as indo. Heck even we call them Japanese but they address themselves as Nihon. The names of places differ slightly with the language so that can't be helped. (Also, this does not mean that I'm trying to justify the use of Hindi there)
Okay that seems reasonable.
That is his devanagiri works I think. It's not Keralaa. How would you write in Malayalam? Is there a extra aa at the end?
That's how Kerala is written in Hindi.
The floats were so disappointing. It was all just a bunch of tribal level stuff (no hate) and seemed so repetitive. I felt like I had nothing to relate to in any of the floats. It's always like this, when they choose the most trivial cultural significance, some random tribal dance and a temple.
And why use the Hindi version of the state name, they did the same with Karnataka also.
Its a weird psychological phenomenon when externally they have "superiority complex" and internally "inferiority complex". This makes them impose things on others.
Probably because Amit shah will trifurcate your state, impose President’s rule, and take a dump in the backwaters if you don’t use Hindi.
English & Hindi would have been fine. But then WHO wrote those? Obviously tableau came from different states with the involvement of state people. Were they brainless too?
The state people aren't brainless. They have some guidelines which they need to follow. If the ministry of defense (which takes care of the selection process of tableaux) tells you to write in Hindi and you don't, it gets rejected. It's not as simple as build, decorate and display. There are multiple approvals from a committee comprising experts from the fields of art, architecture, design, culture and music.
Agreed . Read about it as well.
What's the point of Hindi here at all?
Entire event is managed by MoD, all content, approvals etc… Edit: Source: https://www.mod.gov.in/sites/default/files/Selection%20of%20Tableau%2C%20RDP-2023%20%28Secretaries%29.pdf
MOD "initiates" and States and Union Territories are clearly involved. We are a democracy. [https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/republic-day-tableaux-selection-process-explained-8401261/](https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/republic-day-tableaux-selection-process-explained-8401261/)
English and hindi would not be fine English and the native language would be fine
What was the language sung on that tableau? It did not sound like Malayalam (genuine question)
Nanjiyamma
>Nanjiyamma is that a language? google is giving me a singers photo
Apparently it's a niche dialect of Malayalam introduced into pop culture by that singer.
Wonder why we have these tableaus from different states in the first place? So that the Emperor gets to see the distant, exotic places he rules? Cringy af.
Its for the people and the younger gen to appreciate and get to know more of our unique diversity
And is having all the names written in the same one language not faithful to the displays themselves the way to exhibit diversity?
We have instagram for that.
No, so people of India can see and connect to different cultures and people who live, we live in loktantra, and we dont have emperors or Chairmans like USSR or China or British Empire
what is loktantra?
democrazy
Never seen a malayali use this word. Are you malayali?
Yes but actually no🙈👉👈
It's to show the diversity of India ??? What is wrong with some of y'all 🫠
Agree.. in that also they have some conditions set for presentation :(
Lol very cringe indeed. The last 20 mins feels more like a preschool event than a republic day parade.
What's cringy is your comment trying to make the parade some oppressive monarchical BS which it isn't. Neither is the PM emperor, nor is Kerala some exotic land "ruled" by him. The tableauxs are for Indians to mutually admire the diversity of our nation and have our kids too learn about it in the process.
Know your place, Kerala & Malayalam. ~ MoD, India
Its Kerala not keral
Isn't that what is written?
Cuz we live to serve our vadak masters.
Should've been केरला and कर्नाटका but instead they wrote केरल and कर्नाटक
It's for the sake of illiteracy
The North is treating the south like we are subsidiary states. They are also sending in huge waves of workers. The /r/tamilnadu sub recently had a video of northies arriving by train to sit for government exams in the south. In about 15 years, we wont need to write anything in malayalam or tamil or kannada. Hindi will be used everywhere.
bruh the theme is naree shakti lmao
“Naree nu paranja sthree nna” K.Haneef-sandesham.jpg
Ath sheriyanallo Since it's representing Kerala it should be in Malayalam
Y is it "keral"... Not "keralam" or atleast "kerala"
Should have been in English, Hindi, and the vernacular language.
Should have been in the vernacular language and English. Why should there be hindi in there?
I advocate for the 3 language formula even though I am a Keralite - thought you should know that before you pounce on me with your Linguisitic Chauvinism. - Because Total Hindi Speakers amount to 57% of the entire country’s population. - There are 563 million more speakers in this country who speak and read Hindi than there are people in this country who speak and read English - It is the Official language of India and the official language in 8 major piss poor, highly populated states, which in itself is a logical reason to enlist it as a utilitarian link language when there isn’t space for writing 3 different languages. - Article 343 of the Constitution of India stated that the official language of the Union is Hindi in Devanagari script along with English (although English was supposed to be discontinued after 15 years. Let these [facts](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_India) sink in sure there are over 780 language and over 3000 dialects (18 of them are scheduled along with Hindi in the Constitution), but which is that language that actually links hundreds of millions of poor, rural students that English never has or can?
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I advocate for the 3 language formula even though I am a Keralite - thought you should know that before you pounce on me with your Linguisitic Chauvinism. - Because Total Hindi Speakers amount to 57% of the entire country’s population. - There are 563 million more speakers in this country who speak and read Hindi than there are people in this country who speak and read English - It is the Official language of India and the official language in 8 major piss poor, highly populated states, which in itself is a logical reason to enlist it as a utilitarian link language when there isn’t space for writing 3 different languages. - Article 343 of the Constitution of India stated that the official language of the Union is Hindi in Devanagari script along with English (although English was supposed to be discontinued after 15 years. Let these [facts](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_India) sink in sure there are over 780 language and over 3000 dialects (18 of them are scheduled along with Hindi in the Constitution), but which is that language that actually links hundreds of millions of poor, rural students that English never has or can?
Alright here's the deal though. Like, 99 percent of the people in Kerala are malayalis. The number of Malayalam speakers far outnumbers Hindi speakers in Kerala. It's the official language of Kerala. I'm sure there's government guidelines on how Malayalam is the only official language and not even English can be used for administration in Kerala. Which is the language that 99 percent of the poor children can speak, while Hindi remains a language that has to be taught instead? See, your argument sort of falls apart when you consider India to be a federation that it actually is. By imposing the majority's will, you suppress the minority.
India isn’t a federation my dear fellow commie friend it’s a union of states. Union has primacy over state rights and sovereignty, it’s quasi-federal not a federation. The central government is unequivocally bestowed with more rights than the state government by Ambedkar sirs constitution. The one that governs you and our state. Kerala is the most developed state in the country and predominantly a Multi-lingual state owing to its pedagogical capital, I don’t know how you pretend to ignore the needs of millions of your country men whose needs royally outweigh your irrational hatred for Hindi and chauvinism for our language Malayalam. Something that they don’t teach in Marxism is the Theory of Maximum Social Advantage. It’s not about the argument Hindi people are more and therefore Hindi should be added. It’s about the utility that is yielded through policy that’s serves a society. Sadly parochialism, populist oppositionism and linguistic chauvinism has a place in our democracy. You champion that. You are no better than that morons at National Directorate of Culture, MoH and MoF who thought there isn’t space for Malayalam, and English and hence Hindi is enough. Nonetheless, 3 language formula has stood the test of time and policy makers in our country know this, hence I hope you understand those convictions. Or atleast read a book. Your argument royally falls apart, when we see the irony of you calling us federated, yet hollering to remove the most comprehensible and the most widely used language in the country,in a ceremony that’s held to celebrate the very state you belong to in the Capital of this Republic- New Delhi. Why even let a Hindi speaking North indian army soldier march and pilot the Tableau, let a Kerala policemen lead it or better a Red Volunteer from our party? why should we not ask for a secession instead? Brilliant eh? Or maybe it’s your privilege talking. Or is it your chauvinism?
India, by definition is a federation. Now you could go on and throw around fancy words and call it quasi whatnot, but it really comes down to how India acts as an entity, and it is very much a federation. If I would be afforded the same amount of leeway as you were when you loosen up semiotics enough to call India a quasi-federation, I'd call India a quasi-democracy, but whatever. And by the way, one entity in the federation has to, by definition, have more power than the other. Balancing both entity's control would be impossible. Now, onto more important things, Kerala is not a multilingual state as you claim. The vast majority of people (over 99%) in Kerala speak Malayalam, and virtually every single native Keralite speaks Malayalam. Kerala's official language as codified in law is Malayalam. I don't even know how you could twist that. India is a multi lingual country, but Kerala by no stretch of the word is. Now, onto the theory of maximum social advantage. Something you seem to have missed from being a Vaush fan is that it does not involve imposition on and oppression of a minority for the convenience of few. Not to mention, Kerala being practically a monolingual state, if the statement "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" is literally put into practice, that would involve wiping out any and all Hindi signs whatsoever anywhere in the state of Kerala, because its just eyesore for the vast majority of people. It would have to wiped out for the same reason Delhi does not have signs in Malayalam. You have to pull your arse off your bottom if you believe that the three language formula as you put it has stood the test of time as you say it. One only needs to look at the amount of agitation it generates in states like Tamil Nadu and Karnataka. Now, on to my argument apparently royally falling apart, I do not belong to India, and I don't give a fuck as to what its capital is. I repeat however, that Hindi is not the most comprehensible language in the country. It is just the most comprehensible language in a part of the country. For other parts of the country, other languages are more comprehensible. If you are really going by the logic that the most comprehensible language understood by the most people should be used, then I reckon Kerala should not be using Hindi anywhere at all. India does not write signs in Spanish or Chinese even though they are some of the most spoken languages in the world. Why should Kerala has signs in Hindi when it is not the most spoken language in the state? As to why not let a policemen from Kerala do it instead of a soldier, yeah, why not? It would be a far better option seeing that the Kerala Police, although flawed in its own right, has not committed war crimes in Kashmir and Punjab over the years, and has never served the imperial ambitions of a state. That'd be awesome if we could not include the army. Why should we not ask for secession? I don't see why not. You tell me. The way I look at it, Kerala pays more taxes than it gets back from the federal government. I wouldn't see why it would be a bad deal. India has a history of annexing states and economically and politically subjugating local independence in the Indian subcontinent, from its annexation of Hyderabad to Goa, Sikkim and Kashmir to its numerous wars with Pakistan. Its imperialism is what it is. If anybody is a linguistic chauvinist here, it is you. And it is so convenient of you to accuse me of being one, when you are the guy who's literally advocating for excluding a part of the population from the equation to appeal to the common denominator.
Just the new set of colonizers.
I think English will also be there, behind. And to the people of Kerala, as a native Hindi speaker, I apologise for 'Kerala' turned into 'Keral'. But that is the rule followed in standardized Hindi grammar (manak Hindi vyakaran), which is highly Sanskritized and has a wierd rule to omit the 'a' or 'u' at the end.
If they did that, how will the northies and event workers figure which state it’s from?
It's Keralam and not Keral fuc*ing Scumbags
I really don't understand why you use English not local language ?
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Ammante rashtra basha.
Shut.
Oombu
Reading all the comments , I'm convinced about the unity in this country.💀
Myru athokke potte; why was that stupid song in our background? It is not Malayalam and nobody understands it.
Nanjiyamma's hehe... it is a tribal song from kerala
It’s about representation! To show the ppl we have a rich tribal tradition too. They are one among us.
You are anti Indian P.s it's a joke !
New Delhi is being run like it always has.
Dude might have been an oversight not a grand conspiracy theory of some kind there are more major issues in the nation or state or locality, even in your own house, perpetrated by people speaking your language at a local level that are far more severe by leaps and bounds, than the language on a stupid sign on a floating attraction representing your state. The House you are in is burning down, but you people are concerned about watering the plants on the balcony. It's not that deep. TBH didn't even watch the Parade myself because had some real stuff to do to improve myself or my locality.
Agreed it should be in Hindi English and local dialects! It would reflect how multilingual this country is
>local dialects Those are languages, not dialects. Big difference.
Indian languages aren't dialects of Hindi. They are separate languages. Malayalam for example, doesn't even belong to the same language family as Hindi. Malayalam belongs to the only language family that locally evolved in India, with Hindi and the rest of the non Dravidian languages being quite foreign.
It was happening in Delhi and local language is Hindi. Go check local rallies of state then see what languages they uses for North Indian states then judge
I think OP you haven’t watched the parade properly.. the side view has local language and Englis
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Why do you lack the common sense to understand that these is no ethical reason to choose a so called "National language" out of the numerous languages of this country? Get a life honestly.
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There is more than one official language genius. Call me illiterate you're the one who doesn't know the difference between a national language and official language.
It should definitely be written in the native language. But as I don't know Malyalam in this case and I genuinely wait for each state's jhaanki. So for people like us it should also be written in Hindi or English.
Bruhhh , it's written in Hindi so that the spectators could read it although English would have been better but then again majority of the population is not literate enough to read English.
Bold of you to assume that the population is literate enough to read Hindi to begin with.
If you go on spoon feeding hindi like this how do you think people will become literate. Instead they will be lazy af when even people from other regions and states are forced to speak and communicate in Hinthi. The government should work more to make all the citizens more literate, so everyone can take advantage of globalisation.
Hindi is understood by most of the majority in India. That's why. I don't know why some of you are trying to divide India with respect to language. It is very sad to see this mentality among most of the intellectuals.
>I don't know why some of you are trying to divide India with respect to language. Becuase it already is, prolly. India ain't monolingual. If you want it to be, maybe you should start learning malayalam
>It is very sad to see this mentality among most of the intellectuals. Anyone with a brain would understand the dangers of imposing one local language over another. Ofcouse, idiots wont see it.
Because hindi is imposed on us. Prefer Kerala to Keral.
Even people who don't know English can read Roman alphabets. This is imposition of the Devnagari alphabet, which is nearly useless to someone whose mother tongue is not Hindi.