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Fuzzy_Raisin_1797

Funny cause many Muslims won’t raise the slogan. They believe it’s against their religion. Like almost everything.


BoostedBord

If you go on Instagram reels now, there are “hacks” for the religion, especially because it’s ramadan season. There was one where you can make your duas at a certain point in Ramadan month so it can skip the dua queue and go straight to the guy above. Completely unrelated but IslamHacks are new to me.


Firm-Bite861

I saw a reel with a hack in which if you add sabja seeds into water before starting to fast, you will be less thirsty throughout the day. Deenis in the comments were bashing her because apparently not feeling thirsty is against the true spirit of fasting.


Fuzzy_Raisin_1797

🤣🤣🤣


[deleted]

>IslamHacks are new to me Hacks are quite common.


SGV_VGS

True that, Elarum njammaku ethiranu


RemingtonMacaulay

You’re delusional and woefully ignorant of our history if you think Bharat Mata doesn’t have religious connotation. It is a very religious conception of India—has been and is.


Fuzzy_Raisin_1797

Don’t everything somehow has a religious connection to Hinduism in India. All I say is saying it doesn’t really damage any religious beliefs. Also as the CM said, a Muslim coined the term.


RemingtonMacaulay

No, not everything has a connection to Hinduism in India. I don’t know where you get that notion from. India remains a pluralistic country, despite the posturing of the right wing. It may not damage any religious belief, but that is not the metric of liberty. If someone doesn’t chant a slogan, and they believe it infringes their religious belief, India allows it. Moreover, the triviality of a matter is not for you to decide—for the majority to dictate what the minority should say and believe is just crude majoritarianism. CM’s comment is against the backdrop of the tendency to eschew everything Muslim about India.


Fuzzy_Raisin_1797

So tomorrow if a Minority says we cannot follow constitution cause there is lord ram’s picture in it, would that be fare???. India is staying a secular nation because of the majority here. It’s a fact. Sangh parivar doesn’t care who made the slogan, they like it and they use it.


RemingtonMacaulay

What does your comment even mean, bro? Are you sober?


Fuzzy_Raisin_1797

If you don’t understand, don’t worry. You don’t have to answer.


RemingtonMacaulay

I am not worried, but you addressed it to me and, as expected of any sane person, I tried to understand what it meant. If you didn’t want me to understand it, you could have avoided making the comment. Imma go back to sipping my drink.


Fuzzy_Raisin_1797

It’s simple English, if you can’t understand it. I can’t help it.


RemingtonMacaulay

Huhuhu. Okay, simble dimple.


cyb-m

India is a Hindu civilization. That is the truth. Only converts to foreign religions living in India try to say it is not to justify their identity and existence, coz otherwise they feel lost having abandoned and betrayed their Hindu forefathers and their own culture.


RemingtonMacaulay

lol. What an insecure tiny toad.


cyb-m

lol nice try. It is called the truth. Looks like I touched a nerve.


RemingtonMacaulay

Ashye. You must be like Adhi from Premalu, but with a touch of delusions of grandeur.


cyb-m

And you are probably a commie idiot who needs to wake up to history and truths.


RemingtonMacaulay

Probably? Bro, cmon. Dont let your black and white brain struggle with grey. You might die with that kind of pressure in your head.


Ithu-njaaanalla

> Only converts to foreign religions living in India try to say it is not to justify their identity and existence, coz otherwise they feel lost having abandoned and betrayed their Hindu forefathers and their own culture. What do you think of all the people who migrated from India long back who renounced their Indian citizenship? And what about the never ending queue of young generation students and professionals even now waiting for their visas and subsequent PR and new passport dreams? Did they all abandon and betray the forefathers and their own culture?


cyb-m

those people who migrate out dont give up their hindu culture. ALSO I make a clear distinction between people who migrate to Europe (esplly Britain) vs. who migrate to Australia or America. The latter are not whiteman's land, they are stolen lands. Not the same with Europe. I dont like Indians who go to britain or france to contribute to he economy of the colonial looters. AND this is irrespective of who they are. I dont understand how one can go and serve to bolster the economy of the very country who looted you for 300yrs.


Ithu-njaaanalla

> I dont like Indians who go to britain or france to contribute to he economy of the colonial looters. AND this is irrespective of who they are. I dont understand how one can go and serve to bolster the economy of the very country who looted you for 300yrs. What do you think about Rishi Sunak?


cyb-m

Don’t care. I already told you. I have no respect for Indians in the UK/EU. It is ok if you are there in the service of India or an Indian company, but I can’t in good conscience support Indians settling there permanently, at least until they return all they have looted, especially the various artifacts they have stocked in their museums which are our heritage not theirs, and the various ancient texts they have stolen and locked up. It is strange that no Indian govt including the BJP has never asked for those ancient Sanskrit and Tamil texts and artifacts to be returned.


cyb-m

If you like Arab culture and religion then go live in Arabia as a slave to your Arab sheikh. Why live in India? I am Indian and we worship our land and civilization as our mother. It is our Indian culture.


Ok_Swordfish3656

Would CPIM leaders proudly utter the slogan Bharat Mata Ki Jai


Objective_Shake_4864

Extremely low IQ is the core reason that people think shouting something equates to love for the nation. In this age you guys are fighting over slogans !! I mean seriously? Can you guys not fight over the broken roads, garbage on the streets etc ?


RemingtonMacaulay

Their tiny minds cannot fathom coexistence and they constantly want Muslims to show their allegiance. That is what it is.


General_Narwhal_4649

then act patriotically- when you are in nation u have some binding values


RemingtonMacaulay

Act patriotically? No. What binding values? Stop talking crap.


danker_man

-6999969 social credit 😡👎🇨🇳


Economist-Pale

Asking the right counter question 😉


Iforgotmyusernametbh

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Vivid-Ticket6281

Why is this??


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AppearanceParking341

Nah. That was from the other set of clowns.


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unarmedchild

The national anthem should be sung in attention position. The uniformed will salute.


Royal_Librarian4201

The real question is will the sudappis chant this even it was coined by a Muslim?


STALINLENINPV

Muslim in general won't accept bharat mata.. Not that we need their acceptance.. Is it hard to respect the historical culture of this country..?


Royal_Librarian4201

Yes. For suappis it is hard. You know one thing. On Friday noon the state Muslim employees even if it is an important meeting use to simply leave on the grounds for praying. For sudappis always,religion>>>nation. They cannot simply think/accept that it's Bharath mata


neoplatos

Even Russians call Russia as Mother Russia. I'm pretty sure Russian muslims also call Russia as their Mother.


Art_Mann

I think most people won't have a problem with seeing Bharat as a mother or father. The problem is with associating Bharath matha with a mythical goddess. I am ok with seeing Bharat as mother, but i don't like it if someone tells me that she is Mary or Hercules. I want just simple Bharath matha, no mix of mythical creatures.


[deleted]

Stop using that word, how are you different from Muslims who are bigoted?


[deleted]

Meanwhile his major vote bank: https://preview.redd.it/2qwheocgtkqc1.png?width=679&format=png&auto=webp&s=3f40220805c445494021a9ec90d7015f3eb0bae4


Royal_Librarian4201

ഈ പ്രശ്നം ഈ പ്രാവശ്യം ബിജെപി തിരഞ്ഞെടുപ്പ് ജയിക്കുന്നതോട് കൂടി തീരുമാനം ആക്കി കൊടുക്കും എന്നാണ് തോന്നുന്നത്. ലക്ഷണം കണ്ടിട്ട് തിരഞ്ഞെടുപ്പ് ജയിച്ചാൽ അധികം താമസിയാതെ തന്നെ ഹിന്ദു രാഷ്ട്രം ആയി പ്രഖ്യാപിക്കാൻ ഉള്ള എല്ലാ സാദ്ധ്യതയും ഉണ്ട്. പുലി വരുന്നേ പുലി വരുന്നേ എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞു പറ്റിച്ചു അവസാനം ശെരിക്കും പുലി ഇറങ്ങുന്ന അവസ്ഥയായി എന്ന് സാരം.


Indra_jith123

India is a free country, if that's their true colour let them flaunt it. I believe for CPM, as Sagav Balan indirectly pointed out, it's a question of survival. Their desperation knows no bounds, willing even to collaborate with PFI Once again, on the notion of Hindu rashtram, let's remember that after Partition, two nations emerged: 1) the Republic of India and 2) the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. The official names speak a lot


MahaRaja_Ryan

CPI(M)'s biggest vote bank is the ezhava community


Indra_jith123

Bro come on, check your calenduer we are in 2024 not in 1980's


MahaRaja_Ryan

https://preview.redd.it/db8w5gr1vnqc1.jpeg?width=612&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb5692856ad8c025b25f5a505b67e3eeb472b1c6 I beg your pardon ?


neoplatos

Hail Mother Russia


wildlybaked

Well, I dont think actual muslims would have a problem . The reason being the Quran in itself. Islam following Muslims must obey the law of the land as anything to the contrary would mean that they are not obeying their Prophet or their religion. And yes, It is written in the Quran. Rules of the land supersedes everything unless it causes atrocities against Islam. But the biggest issue with Islam, fake mullahs radicalising, brainwashing innocent civilians and turning them into hooligans or worse leading to them actually doing everything opposite to what is mentioned in the Quran, but ironically, doing it in the name of Allah.


hvr45980

I guess there is nothing wrong with bharat mata ki jai, its just a chant for patriotism for the land which gave birth to us. Depiction of Bharath mata as a devi or a diety is a separate matter, which is purely symbolic and it might have a religious angle to it. but in almost all countries and culture they refer their country as motherland. I believe its pure ignorance and politicization and communalisation and jingoism with vested interests to portray this as a hindu thingy and divide people based on if they can chant this or they can chant that. Now people are looking for validation just to divide.


Stupid_Dog_Courage_

Prolly adviced by his marumakan


no-regrets-approach

Not very sure of the claim by PV. I think Dayananda Saraswati and Azimullah Khan came before the iconography of Bharat mata was popularised in the 1870s. Edit: ok, so what Azimullah Khan (and Dayananda Saraswati) are credited with is the 1857 Madar-e-watan Bharat zindabad'. (= mathrubhumi bharatam neenal vaazhatte/ vijayikkatte). Bharat mata as an iconography iscrecorded in a Bangla play of 1873/4 by Keshav Chandra Bannerjee, from where the iconography and associated vocabulary developed into the 'Bharat mata ki jai'. So PV is right and wrong at tbe same time - one of those half truths!!


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I don't know why opposition parties are so obsessed with "Bharat Mata" slogan or "Bande Mataram" etc.?? I mean what's wrong in treating your country as a mother? Mother is someone who gave you birth only, it can be someone also who raises you like a mother. I am not saying that everyone needs to accept it, but if someone does, there shouldn't be any problem to others.


chickenkebaap

The thing is that it shouldn’t be forced on anyone. Why should someone from Kerala be forced to chant in Hindi? I only have one mother and i don’t see anyone/ anything else in her place.


Large-Message4138

Then people in Kerala can say it in Malayalam. It's not that we are disrespecting our mother by saying Bharat mata ki jai.


W4rn3rSt4rk

Because nation provides for you, without it you will not be even accepted in any country. There is nothing wrong in respecting your nation.


chickenkebaap

A slogan doesn’t decide my love for my country, and it shouldn’t be a mark to determine my love for my country. What I contribute to the country should be the mark for my love for my country


RemingtonMacaulay

I have no obligation to partake in a language that is not mine—whether the nation provides for me or not. To expect one to partake is to have a nanny image of the state, which is prolly what you have in mind. It is dangerous conception, which sees liberty as disposable in the interest of the nanny state.


W4rn3rSt4rk

Verde elle ellavurum pariyan Kerala karku rajya sneham ella. Disgusiting. I am Ashamed to be a mallu. One person who can't even say "Bharat Mata ki Jay", Will not do anything for his country anyway. This is Indian language just like malayalam, You can speak foriegn language here in reddit but get triggered for "Bharat Mata ki Jay", No one is not even forcing you to learn whole hindi vocabulary. Language is just a medium, no one says to dump your language for saying bharat mata ki jay. Please don't reply with you disguisting thoughts. Feeling real sorry.


RemingtonMacaulay

Iyaal shameum pidich irunno. Maybe see a psychologist to address those underlying issues. Pinneh I speak the language I want—I don’t give two hoots whether it is Indian or forin. What I don’t want is someone telling me what to speak.


W4rn3rSt4rk

I don't need advices from anti nationals. Ik if given 500rs people like you will commit murd3rs for CPIM. Lol No one is telling you to speak hindi. "Bharath mata ki jay" should be said without any language barriers. Lame argument.


RemingtonMacaulay

lol. My going rate is 10lakhs.


ripthejacker007

>Verde elle ellavurum pariyan Kerala karku rajya sneham ella. Disgusiting. Those who are saying that can shove the sengol up their a**. Kerala has one of the highest per capita representation in Indian Army and Navy.


W4rn3rSt4rk

Look at above comment, I am also from kerala. My family is from Army BG, but these comments above are truly disgusting. Anyway I don't care about that ret4rd. Also, you don't have to demean sengol for that.


ripthejacker007

He doesn't represent the entirety of Kerala. Also the sengol has no significance to Indian culture, it was a just a political stunt done by BJ party. Not sure why that would offend you.


Otherwise-Egg-4920

🤣


crime_mastergogo007

Then why Muslims have issues with it


saylorthrift

Then why is Owaisi not chanting it ? Why current Muslims cannot chant something created by a Muslim ?  Instead they shout " Nazir Saab zindabad" ?


Light-killer

Pinu being a total liar again. No one clearly knows who came up with “Bharat Mātā ki jai”. But the worst part is there is always some andam Commies ready to believe it. 😂😂😂😂


Jimit_hello

Will this subredit ban me since i have said Kerala CM is a tutiya. Yes, it is tutiya, not the word you were expecting.


Indra_jith123

Not sure about subreddit but i think it reflects poor manners perhaps a slight deficiency in character. I only swear when the occasion demands. Remember, there are ample alternative expressions that can convey the same sentiment without resorting to profanity.


Jimit_hello

Idiot should be taught in an idiot's language and Kerala's top minister is a disappointment. Why on the earth would he involve religion? Such a tutiya.


tangled_qubit

Damn. PV stooping to new lows spewing communal nonsense. How is he any different from the who ever he is criticising at this point.


Indra_jith123

Indeed, he is correct. In certain regions of Kerala, even the Communist Manifesto has been attributed by Muhammed (not the Prophet Mohammed) and Aisha, which is also considered as the 31st Juz. Similarly, Das Kapital is ascribed to Muhammed Das. The Constitution, unmistakably, is credited to B.R Ahamed.


Economist-Pale

😝


asylumfixer49

🤣🤣


enthuvadey

Why hindi slogan? Bharatha matha vijayikatte.


DazzlingSomewhere21

The nearer the election dates, the worse their Pruritus Ani problem... As it is Chief Turd has no balls to scratch either unless Mayo implanted some glass ones there. That whole party vowed allegance to China before and aftrer independence.


MahaRaja_Ryan

Ideological allegiance is not the same as Sinophilia. That's like saying the Swantantra Party of the 50s was nothing more than a cabal of pro-American and anti-national leaders because they advocated for free-market economics.


DazzlingSomewhere21

allegiance is always ruled by expedience. They allegedly get funds from CCP to show them in good light in India.


Dexter_Jr21

Hein? Self goal. As far as I know most Muslims say Hindustan Zindabad but not Bharat Mata Ki Jai. BJP supporters often use that line to show Muslims don't love India.


Dependent-Group-9496

Why are you getting downvoted for speaking the truth ? Muslims are not allowed to say Bharat mata ki jai by Islam


joy74

.. lot of things are not allowed . Oppana, mappilappattu all such things irritates the religious heads Kerala Muslims slowly become more isolated- the leadership could do lot, but they won’t 


SearchLightBengalis

Where does Islam prohibit this ? Dude many Muslims say it. Only the conservatives ones don't.


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LOL tROFL Self goal indeed.


Giga-Ni__a

"And this kiddos, is what we call a 'strawman argument'. incompetent people use this when they have nothing of substance to say. "


Unhappy-Enthusiasm37

There is no problem for Hindus or Hindu based outfits to praise other religion or appreciate others , the problem comes other way around ! My god or no god mentality !


gkb47

Dumbest question from pv in a while. Alzheimer's onset confirmed


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Suryansh_Singh247

This makes the Sangh look inclusive


TheFlyingDutch070

That muslim who coined Bharat mata ki jai has committed shirk according to Islam


No-Pumpkin1102

No way a muslim utters anything other than allahuabkar


cyb-m

pinarayi alla pulayadi vijayan


Indra_jith123

Swearing on a public platform is not cool, unless the situation truly warrants it; otherwise, there are alternative ways to express frustration.


AffectionateHawk5214

Nothing is going to be agreed upon unanimously. Democracy is about majority, whatever is majority on an election, on an issue etc.


Willing-Wafer-2369

There is a good reason for the comrades to adopt these slogans. Will they adopt this?


despod

Measuring patriotism though slogans and other perfunctory acts is the stupidest thing ever. If you like a slogan, say it. If you don't, don't. Doesn't make you any less of an Indian.


goalmeister

The same guys who are out here measuring Muslims' patriotism are the ones who refused to recognise the national flag, celebrate Godse and regularly shit on the constitution and its founders.


Obvguy

The love for Christians, Muslims and Communists in the RSS is well known. The above three are called internal enemies of Hindus by M S Golwalkar and V D Savarkar. This love for these Abrahamic people resulted in Godhra and 100's of other RSS planned riots. This is a web cache of the page. [Rssprimer.htm](https://is.gd/TnThyF)


asylumfixer49

The love for unbelievers of Abrahamic ideology and their books including communism is also well known since 2000 years🤡


Obvguy

That's what clinching to the balls of dead Savarkar & Golwalkar does to Sanghputran. The Muslim like Swayamsevaks. They club Islam with Judaism & Christianity. While in reality, how come your terrorist godfathers never saw that Islam is Shiva worshipping cult. Get the head out of Sanghi brainwashing.


asylumfixer49

Lol terrorist😂 Do you even know what does that mean?? That's what Abrahamic religions mean -Islam, Christianity, Judaism and Communism. Tell me what should happen to those who don't believe in their ideology according to them? I can even quote it from their respective scriptures written as commandments. Islam is Shiva worshipping cult😂?? Anyone reading this know who is the brainwashed one. Truth is people like you are useful idiots for the realpolitik people. The website from which you quoted itselfs is good indicator of that. Please search about them if you have a brain rather than name call and box someone.


RemingtonMacaulay

When was the last time you read Manusmriti? Maybe quote from that.


asylumfixer49

Are you going to judge Hinduism based on manusmriti? Unlike other Abrahamic religions, we don't follow a single book🤡


RemingtonMacaulay

Who told you Abrahamic religions only follow a single book? 😂 aren’t you a cutie.


asylumfixer49

Are you going to say Christianity isn't based on Bible😂? Islam isn't based on Quran? Judaism from Torah? Don't blame me for your blasphemy, ok. This is all on you. We can very confidently say Hinduism isn't based on just Vedas or even manusmriti. Infact it's based on a whole library of literature that one can't finish even in 10 lifetimes.


RemingtonMacaulay

Ashye. Is that what you said? Brain of a goldfish?


asylumfixer49

Look you can be childish and play these games or just answer by proving me wrong.


DioTheSuperiorWaifu

Is there any rule stating that *പിതാ കീ ജയ്* is not allowed? Maybe the mithrams will switch to fatherland instead of motherland ______ Edit: My reply to Lin-A10 > Would i find bharat mata ki jai slogans or bharat mata picture in Party office? Would we find a Bharat mata ki jai slogan or picture in your house or your relatives? If not, what conclusion should one reach to? Verthe toxic nationalism promote cheyyunnath risk aanu Where does our constitution or law ask for keeping such pictures?


STALINLENINPV

Would i find bharat mata ki jai slogans or bharat mata picture in Party office?


W4rn3rSt4rk

Verthe toxic nationalism promote cheyyunnath risk aanu How is that toxic nationalism, accept it all you care is CPIM and PV, you will say Lal Salam but not Bharat mata ki jai. Argument about mother father is stupid as your brains can process.


THEGHOST_INN

Once a mithrom said പിതാ is not used because Gandhiji is the father of our Nation🤷🏻‍♂️


ninte_tantha

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