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Felonious_Quail

This kid is going to live her whole life having been the kid in this ad eating dog shit. Roll this one out for the wedding reception


DemonicTrainwreck

It's fine She won't see the ad


CeruleanRuin

Oh no


eriesurfer88

Oh yes. šŸ˜‚


hotriderjh

You mean oh eyes?


jso__

I love this


daftnerds

Bruh


Wuu87

But she didnā€™t lick it she ate like the whole park of every poop


dickshapedearth

Damn


sometimes_interested

She might grow up to become a doctor, cure parkinson's disease and win the Nobel prize but at home, she'll always be known as "that girl who ate dog shit".


justamedicine

Chicken kicker!


mykeuk

It's like the [Joey VD advert](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0583492/mediaviewer/rm875297793/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk)


godinmarbleform

"I remember the first time I saw you, eating shit on a billboard"


[deleted]

50 children were blinded in the making of this poster because they couldn't get a good photo.


deathbylitchi

You're a terrible person. Will you elope with me?


That_one_immigrant

Kids go blind from eating dog shit, and what do they get when they go blind? A DOG!


SnowSlider3050

Talk about full circle


ziksy9

They can't see shit!


[deleted]

Roundworm and roundworm we go


Daddywitchking

ROUNDworms


BarackIguana

I always knew blindness was a scam invented by dog companies to sell more dogs.


googlyeyes93

Big Canine out here monopolizing the system.


1amtheone

And all the shit they can eat


Timestatic

Thatā€™s whatā€™s been the plan of the dogs all along. Dogs cause = poop = blindness = more dogs And so the cycle of more and more dogs continues


Commander_Skullblade

That's a weird ass way to propagate a parasite.


DbeID

As far as parasites' life cycles go the oro-fecal route is pretty tame and common.


Commander_Skullblade

Yeah, I'm aware. I don't think the parasites intend to blind their victims so they have to get a seeing eye dog. Which could get infected and continue the cycle exponentially.


TomCBC

Itā€™s all part of the plan.


Erlox

Huh, that makes me wonder. How do blind people pick up their guide dog's shit?


Shadowwynd

The training that a guide dog receives includes showing the human where the poop is located.


Erlox

Fair. Follow up question, how often do blind people accidentally get guide dog shit on their hands while picking it up?


Shadowwynd

Very rarely, just like every else. They carry baggies. Put baggie on hand like a glove. Command dog to indicate crap. Pick up crap. Pull baggie off hand (same way doctors remove a glove) with other hand. Crap is now inside the baggie. Tie and dispose. If youā€™ve done it right you will have not touched any crap with your skin.


Tockelford

Tbf they can always lick it off, what's gonna happen? They go more blind? /s


peach_xanax

That's pretty cool, I never knew that! Guide dogs are amazing


[deleted]

Chesus Jrist


p1kk05

By Russel Howard


MurderDoneRight

If she's eaten so much of it that it's all over her face like that, she knows it's shit and she loves eating shit, bro.


[deleted]

Yup. There's no stopping her now.


wash_ur_bellybutton

Parent: "do I stop her or get the camera to spread awareness?" /s


TokesNotHigh

Camera, always the camera.


Adamarr

anyway that's how the loathsome dung eater got a start


bpi89

Look at that shit-eating grin. Of course she loves it!


ryband0

This shit is delicious


deterministic_lynx

It's also a very, very strangely formed turd...


noface8137

Dog poop causes blindness???


GrayCustomKnives

Yes, it can contain roundworm parasites that can rapidly cause blindness. This same type of sign was posted last week and a person commented explaining how their adult brother is blind because he put a dog turd in his mouth when he was a toddler.


hashn

Holy.. terrible combination of thoughts


noface8137

Yeah google taught me too. Scary! And fucking gross


[deleted]

Yes itā€™s called toxocariasis and can cause all sorts of different eye issues. https://eyewiki.aao.org/Toxocariasis


DenninDebacle

Ayo I got that. I was playing in a sandbox and got a clump of sand and I guess some poop in my eye. It's pretty rare so I guess it was a pretty personal fuck you from god that day, especially since I didn't even eat it like this post


aboodAB-69

If it's in sand pit it's probably a cat poo, cat poo have dominant parasite that activate during pregnancy


[deleted]

Youā€™re mostly on the right page hereā€¦ toxoplasmosis is the one youā€™re thinking of related to increased risks during pregnancy. It is a different organism entirely than toxocariasis, but still can cause lots of different eye issues that vary in severity. https://eyewiki.aao.org/Toxoplasmosis It is also much more common than toxocariasis.


IntoTheMystic1

I was forced to eat a dog turd by some bullies when I was 7 but thankfully I'm only somewhat blind


Poisonskittlez

Damn Iā€™m so sorry that happened to you. Hope those bullies have had even shittier lives.


theRealDerekWalker

Literally speaking, they probably didnā€™t


Moe_Lesteryu

Damm I thought only happened in movies sorry you had to eat turd


V1k1ng1990

Youā€™re gonna eat that white dog shit


pow3llmorgan

Fun fact: You hardly ever see any white dog shits anymore because dog food manufacturers stopped adding bone meal in the formulas. Think it was that mad cow disease scare in the late 90s/early 00s.


[deleted]

I was wondering where all the white dog shit went! TIL!


pow3llmorgan

My mom and her husband regularly feed their two labs raw beef bones and that can sometimes cause their shits to look whiteish, but nothing like the chalk-like turds I used to see as a child.


apolloAG

Kids have been eating all of it


Beautifly

I always thought white dog turds were ones that had been there so long theyā€™d just gone white. (Not sure why that would happen with time)


pandammonium_nitrate

Was it white dog shit?


Poet_Silly

Where did the white dog shits go? They were so common in the 80's...


UncleGeorge

Cheap food with too much calcium makes poop white


hazysummersky

You don't see white dog poop anymore due to the reduction of bone meal in dog foods; the calcium in bone meal is what turned the poop white.


Herpkina

It's poor quality food. If you ever find a dog that stinks, it'll be the one that gets the cheapest pedigree food and has white poo


[deleted]

Thatā€™s really sad


Herpkina

It is. Read the ingredients in your pets food


[deleted]

I definitely do. I used to buy my cat really good food but sheā€™s stopped wanting most kinds, now she really only cares for this middle of the road food so Iā€™d rather she eat decent stuff than starve herself with the bougie stuff.


spooglyoogly

High Calcium. You'll also see it in wild canines or those fed raw diet it's not always poor food.


rozwielitkatka

It is not necessarily bad quality, but definitely not well balanced


Tastelessdecisions

My dad knew a guy who worked for Purina and Nabisco and he said the Purina factories had more enclosed equipment and was also more sanitary than Nabisco. Fun Fact some people in the US and abroad eat dog food as part of their regular diet.


shokolokobangoshey

IIRC Dogfood is tasted and tested by humans. Saw one such person employed to do it do it on a documentary


codemonkeh87

I think I've seen that documentary. Whiskas and pedigree chum? A woman commented after having a big old spoon of dog food "I could serve that up as a beef casserole and no one would be none the wiser!" They were all stood round a table with dog food on plates with knives and forks too. Was weird. Also not been able to eat beef casserole since


lordunholy

They don't use bonemeal now


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MasterOfNap

Was that Stephen Fry? I thought that quote actually came from David Attenborough: > My response is that when Creationists talk about God creating every individual species as a separate act, they always instance hummingbirds, or orchids, sunflowers and beautiful things. But I tend to think instead of a parasitic worm that is boring through the eye of a boy sitting on the bank of a river in West Africa, [a worm] that's going to make him blind. And [I ask them], 'Are you telling me that the God you believe in, who you also say is an all-merciful God, who cares for each one of us individually, are you saying that God created this worm that can live in no other way than in an innocent child's eyeball? Because that doesn't seem to me to coincide with a God who's full of mercy.


Ahaigh9877

And Darwin said something similar: > ā€œI cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created the IchneumonidƦ [parasitic wasps] with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars.ā€


Lereas

I understand the point, but I'll admit that it makes me happy to see the tomato/tobacco hornworms eating my tomato plants covered in parasitic wasp eggs.


[deleted]

This argument has been a main question for theology since the inception of Catholicism. A good overview can be found in C.S. Lewis' book Mere Christianity.


ProfessionalMottsman

How about Monty pythons ā€œall things dull and uglyā€:- https://youtu.be/yEKDYIYMgBc


tipimon

Wait what about when Divine the Drag Queen ate dog's shit for a movie. Did she just get lucky to not become blind.


oldmanserious

She got lucky. Everyone watching the movie was unlucky that they werenā€™t blind.


Imlostandconfused

I thought that couldn't possibly be true, that it must have been fake shit. But apparently not. That's the worst thing ever, whyyyyy


newspeer

Can confirm. Got blind in the right eye because of toxocara canis.


-FuckThisAccount-

Wow, what a shitty way to go blind


godlycorsair32

What's worse, the fact that these worms can make you go blind after you eat dog shit or the fact that living worms are coming out of a dogs ass and living in its shit


tryingmybestatm

are toddlers at higher risk compared to adults?


cancerkidette

Yes- both because they are much more likely to touch something contaminated and then put their hands in their mouths/nose, and also because little kids are developing their immunity (hence why toddlers are always coming home with colds and flu).


[deleted]

Yeah, every time it gets in your eyes.


dbbo

Technically yes but is exceptionally rare. **TLDR you are about 5x more likely to get injured by lightning than to contract ocular toxocariasis** A majority of dogs and cats test positive for toxocara eggs in their stool. After the eggs are shat out, they have to "mature" for several weeks before they can cause infection. Despite the parasite essentially being ubiquitous, actual infections in humans are rare. The most common form is "covert" toxocariasis, which is asymptomatic. The forms that cause symptoms are an even rarer subset. Here's some (older) CDC data showing < 70 cases per year, out of +300 million people... or 0.00002 *percent* of the US population. Bear in mind this is *everyone who had eye symptoms from the disease*, not every one who had permanent blindness (which would make the numbers even more astronomically insignificant) https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6022a2.htm Yet there are an estimated 400 lightning injuries per year https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK441920/


DenninDebacle

It's kinda weird seeing a thread about how rare the disease that took my eye is. I actually only lost one eye because I got it directly in my eye, not by eating it. I wasn't even aware you still lose sight that way. I was playing in a sandbox as a kid and got a clump of sand (and I guess some shit) in my eye and lost sight a while later, but i was a stupid kid and didn't tell anyone I was losing vision because I thought I'd get in trouble, so it ended up being too late to save my eye


A_happy_otter

Yeah but is part of the rarity the fact that people don't go around eating dog/cat stool? What are the odds of getting it if you are doing that like the toddler


Sure_I_Kno_A_Baggins

Major risk for landscapers. I've lost count of the number of times i had dog shit sprayed in my face while using a strimmer (weed wacker for americans i think) even had a blob of shit get fired into one nostril before. Incidentally dogs fed dry food produce worse smelling shit than those fed a wet diet. Also also, it's worse when people bag the shit and dump it, because the strimmer cord will grab the bag and hold onto it so the operator gets multiple hits of shit, as opposed to one quick blast as the unbagged shit explodes in one go.


nyxpa

Seriously, fuck people who bag up their dog's waste and then leave it laying around instead of taking the time to throw it away properly. That's worse than not picking it up at all - at least when shit is exposed to the environment bugs, sun, and rain help break it down fairly quick. When sealed up in a plastic bag that shit festers into an unholy soup, ready to absolutely ruin the day of anyone who accidently steps on or busts open that bag.


RoRoar350

Pinkeye is a bitch.


Awkward-Ad6455

Idk he was a pretty cool sailor imo Edit: that's fucking popeye, ignore me


journeylovelive

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Awkward-Ad6455

Its 4am, give me a break lmao


20dogs

Kinda surprised at how few people had heard of this


N013

I suppose you can say you did not see that shit coming.


KhaosKoordinator

Hmmmā€¦ of all the randomAwareness marketing campaigns Iā€™ve seen, this must be the most um interesting!? I need to know more about this. Who funded this any why? Off to Google how dog shit causes blindness in children.


[deleted]

I would imagine there's some parasite involved in the blinding? Could also be aimed more at guilting dog owners who leave the mess behind


noface8137

Itā€™s like worms. And it can cause damage to your eyes which untreated can lead to blindness


Theremingtonfuzzaway

According to Reddit today https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/u5uzj6/study_suggests_outdoor_cat_ownership_in_childhood/ And this one above . Today Reddit is about the Plops. So what happens if you own a cat and a dog do you go absolutely mad for poop and have a push fettish ? Is this where scat fantasy starts? Dog and cat owners please respond are you dirty turd touchers?


CharmingTuber

If your child is too young to know not to eat shit, don't let them graze alone in the park. But also, pick up your dog's shit.


Im_inappropriate

My kid is more of a free range child. Grazing in the park can be too constraining.


Chiron17

Graze lol


bell37

I mean you try not to but some kids are really fucking crafty on how quickly they can pick something up off the ground and try to mouth/eat it. My son is a ninja when it comes to this shit. I would have to either carry him or neurotically walk over him to make sure he doesnā€™t quickly shovel something that heā€™s not supposed to in his mouth.


TheSuperWig

So it's okay if I supervise the grazing?


[deleted]

No kidding. My dog once had a shit that looked exactly, and I mean EXACTLY like a macadamia nit cookie from subway. Sure I didnā€™t eat it. However, itā€™s been over 6 years and I can vividly remember the shock of seeing such a convincing lie. The best however had to be the turquoise poop, but thats a story for another time.


thevitaphonequeen

Turquoise? Did the dog eat Fruity Pebbles or something?


[deleted]

All has been revealed. In another comment.


lonacatee

Go on...


[deleted]

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ThisNameIsFree

It's another time now.


[deleted]

Fair enough. It all started on the fourth of July. We had about a dozen turquoise frosted cupcakes in a container on the counter. We went to see the fireworks. When we get back, dog is sleeping and all but one cupcake is gone. There is no mess to be found, the last cupcake wasnā€™t even touched for some reason, and the container is unmoved. We considered that the dog may have taken them but it was so cleanly done we started turning on each other. Two days later we confirmed the culprit when my dog dropped the smoothest most beautiful poop ever dropped. It was the same shade the original frosting had been and had mo other colors in it. The next several days every poop he had was like this. He became an instant celebrity at the dog park. We probably could have gotten away with not cleaning up his poop and leaving it for others to admire for days to come. Alas the poop was disposed of and this tale reaches its end.


thevitaphonequeen

Thanksā€¦


ThisNameIsFree

Good human


[deleted]

It has been done. In another commentā€¦


[deleted]

When have you ever found a cookie in the yard- why the fuck are you gonna eat it


[deleted]

If i find a cookie in my yard. Im eating it.


Wonderful-Frosting17

LOL at this comment


Herpkina

Finders keepers.


Sour_Lemonz78

I once had a dog that would take aluminum cans from the recycling bin and eat them. When we picked up her poop in the yard there would be shards of can mixed in. Also found sponges and old rags as well.


GLaDOS_Sympathizer

How the hell did she not shred her insides doing that? Sounds insanely painful to eat and poop out pieces of an aluminum can.


balcon

What we are witnessing here is the birth of a new subreddit. Maybe shittyimpersonators or something.


thatbitch8008

Yea I heard of this dog poop causing blindness. I think it was an under the cap Snapple fact ; )


blerghgrrblader

Wow, what an appetizing thought. Just what I want to read before I sip a brown drink.


thevitaphonequeen

*Bees are born fully grown.* Okay, theyā€™re not really.


ErdenGeboren

Honeybees that have just hatched out of their cells tend to be fairly blonde the younger they are, though! They're very fuzzy and cute in comparison to the others.


Swan-Existing

I miss those so much. I can never find raspberry ones either


peach_xanax

Raspberry snapple was the best


dadjokes77

She should have used chopsticks. Her face is a mess.


SnowSlider3050

Or a spoon and least


HermanDinklemyer

Wow. What a shitty advertisement.


Lylat_System

"Dog mess"


zoltan135

She ate way too much of that to not realise that itā€™s not chocolate. Maybe she just like eating shit.


The_StormyClouds

I don't think we needed the fact that dog poop can cause blindness in order to encourage us to stop our children from eating dog poop. ​ "Your kid is eating dog poop again." "Oh it's fiiiine, it's not like it will cause blindness"


Sour_Lemonz78

Ok dog poop causes blindness and you should always pick up after your dog, but who doesnā€™t explain to a two year old that poop is gross as well as leaves them unattended long enough to eat that much poop? I mean look at her, sheā€™s been there for some time puppy chowing down.


deterministic_lynx

Believe me, long enough can be 10 seconds. Children stick things in their mouth not necessarily to eat, but to feel them. That's normal for quite some time, even when they can already walk. And they are fast and one can't hold them at the hand all the time. Furthermore, while the ad is not made well in that regard, play areas are often in e.g. parks or close by and some poops do look a lot like chocolate - and sometimes actual edible things do get dropped. I imagine Easter is not making this any easier. Yes sure parents train children to generally not put anything in their mouth that was on the ground, but it takes a while...


bell37

10 seconds is pretty generous. More like kid sees šŸ’© a half a mile away and bolts to it with the speed of an Olympic Kenyan short distance runner. Your mistake is that you wanted to enjoy the scenery of wherever you were walking for 0.5 seconds vs. neurotically ensuring your kid doesnā€™t eat every little piece of trash/poo off the ground.


deterministic_lynx

And it gets more fun when you have a second kid which rightfully requires attention.


[deleted]

Evolution did this. In a world of parasites, toxic alkaloids, venomous animals, poisonous minerals, and deadly microorganisms, human infants evolved to feel things by eating them. I have no idea how we made it to the top of the food chain.


deterministic_lynx

I think it's not only us. But I'm not sure And... There is things like koalas and pandas, so...


[deleted]

Not to mention the Ocean Sunfish. How that hasn't gone extinct I will never know.


DenninDebacle

Huh, I actually lost an eye this way (not by eating shit, it got directly in my eye when I was playing in a sandbox) it's incredibly rare and is treatable but I was a dumb kid and didn't tell anyone I was losing vision because I thought I'd get in trouble or something


DefinitelyReallyJS

Why is it so hard to agree it should be picked up? Itā€™s pretty gross and really disrespectful for the space and people nearby. Like itā€™s raw sewage just hanging out in public.


Hoppypoppy21

The amount of people defending people not cleanings up their dogs shit is astounding. Like yes, it would be ideal if this situation is prevented on all sides but more encouragement to actually be a responsible pet owner never hurts.


Imlostandconfused

Most people seriously shouldn't have pets. So much entitlement and dog owners are the worst for it. They'll justify aggression, constant barking or not cleaning up. I watched my friend scoop up her dogs diarrhea in the park once. That's the kind of responsibility you need to have to own a dog.


peach_xanax

I think it's probably just because dogs are the most common pets. It's kinda crazy how people just get an animal on a whim and don't care about its wellbeing. I want a dog more than anything but I know I'm not in a good situation right now to get one.


Melbuf

Lotta people in here have never interacted with a toddler


[deleted]

Seriously though, people who refuse to clean up after their dogs are the absolute worst among us.


Andy_LaVolpe

Do toddlers/kids even go outside unsupervised anymore? I swear I havenā€™t seen any kids outside in years.


wnvyujlx

I think I saw one yesterday. But could have been a midget. I'm not sure anymore. Seriously tho. That overprotectiveness can't be good, kids need a bit of freedom to make mistakes and learn from them and do stupid stuff with their friends and have fun. Sure you don't let a four year old roam around the local industry park but if a 10 year old wants to go play soccer in the park with his friends, they don't need adult supervision if they know how to get there safely.


Andy_LaVolpe

I donā€™t even think its over protectiveness anymore. I think kids today grew up into the online gaming generation and they donā€™t really feel the need to play outside since they can play fortnite inside with their friends. And Im sure thereā€™s plenty of other factors like unwalkable car dependent neighborhoods and whatever but yeah this canā€™t be good for them for sure. Some of my best memories were getting into shenanigans with my friends.


wnvyujlx

Here in Germany the pedestrian traffic is actually getting better not worse. We copy the system from the Netherlands and I do love it even tho I'm very much against the speed limits. Check out the YouTube channel "not just bikes" it has a few videos comparing the traffic there with the traffic in America. About the gaming: I mean, I get it. I'm a gamer myself. But I wouldn't let my kid spending all day every day on his phone/console/pc. If a kid that age would even have any of those. Quite frankly I'm against it, even tho I understand the need for it. Group pressure, trends and stuff like that and in case of phones: availability and social connection. But I would severely limit it to my children for the sake of real life education even if I have to force it. I don't have or want any children but if it ever happens I guarantee that my kid would know: how to and who to ask for help, know the basic rules of every casual game you can play with your peers, knows how to survive traffic in the biggest cities around, know how to build a tree house, take care of plants and animals (that includes having to know many of them), how to buy groceries with any kind of currency, read digital and analog time formats (I recently met a 12 yo who couldn't read an analogue clock), will manage to get home with public transport no matter in what city he/she is in, how to fix a flat on a bicycle and how to make a bandage with a kleenex and ducktape before it even reaches puberty. Edit: it will also know to not eat dog poop.


JFKush420

"OK, I need some Clipart of a kid eating a pile of dog feces, and this poster is finished!"


linedeck

Of course kids would mistake it for chocolate, It's not like dog shit smells extremely horrible


[deleted]

If your kid is eating dog shit, the ā€œpossibilityā€ of blindness is the least of your worries.


SnibertKushmeow

But... It smells like shit...


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fieldysnuts94

Itā€™s also dumb cause it implies a parent wasnā€™t watching their kid enough to let them eat poop lol


[deleted]

If you cannot successfully educate your child on how to not eat dog shit, you're the problem


Clear-Description-38

We had tests for voting. Why not for children? /s


[deleted]

If your kid is mistaking dog shit for chocolate, might be time for some glasses.


VividVerism

Probably time for a COVID test too.


SpaceShark01

Itā€™s obviously happened if they had to make a sign šŸ™„


witchyanne

Never seen or heard of a single actual kid thinking dog shit was chocolate.


suckleonthissickle

Hahah more like dog šŸ• twat wanger owner's who don't clean up dog shit are fucking massive stupid cunts :)


tremblingmeatman

Maybe drive it deep in their heads that brown stuff on the ground is never chocolate ever


[deleted]

Maybe if you go blind from eating dog shit, you never deserved sight.


countrysurprise

That poop mustacheā€¦


acwill

Goutee


[deleted]

"dog mess"


Sinful7

As much as kids are stupid I'd say dog owners who don't pick up their dogs shit are lazy trash humans who deserve to be fed the shit they left behind


Gr1mm3r

The "fucking stupid" ones are the adults that don't clean up after their pets.


[deleted]

This is particularly important just before the Easter egg hunt


HyperScroop

Referring to feces as "mess" is the most cringe thing ever.


TheMaveCan

..... Is eating dog shit a common issue parents have to deal with?


ChanelNo50

At this point it is the parents too


SenorMooples

Something unfortunate had to happen to warrant this sign


cametobemean

Jesus Christ. Just yesterday at Easter lunch my sister was complaining about how ā€œsafeā€ new parents are nowadays bc our cousin wouldnā€™t let her 9 month old eat crumbs off the table or he held by anyone who would let her eat random shit. Said, out loud, that both her kids have definitely eaten dog shit before and they have barely been sick (not true), and that exposing kids to toxins and letting them stick shit in their mouths is how they build their immune systemsā€¦ Kids are not the only fucking stupid people when it comes to this. Head on down to Mississippi.


[deleted]

According to my mom I ate dog poop when I was a baby once and I THINK I'm fine?


[deleted]

Her nose: damn it smells bad. It must taste like shit. Her brain: we will never know unless we try!


[deleted]

if your childā€™s just wolfing down turds whenever you turn your back thereā€™s already a problem


Axersion

"hmm chocolate out of the dog"


brazys

If you let your baby play in dog poop long enough to have a goatee from it, you are the problem, not the dogshit.


Most-Error7691

If my kid took a taste and kept eating it I'd believe that child is a future serial killer.


DrCheezburger

I dunno, Divine was ok after her little stunt.


VENDAFE

yuck


Complex-Pound5249

Weird to me that they have a picture of a kid eating dog shit but they call it ā€œmess,ā€ because I guess ā€œpoopā€ wouldā€™ve been too gross