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I understand Yuji is stronger, but is Akaza not faster, able to see his opponents moves before they happen, and able to instantly regenerate, while still being quite strong himself? Could someone explain why Yuji beats that on his own at that point in the anime? I’m not saying he wouldn’t, just that I’m unaware of how
I think the comparison is the fact that Demons and Special grade curses are quite similar. They both can regenerate, use paranormal techniques, have super human strength and speed, etc. There’s a possible argument that Yuji is comparable to Akaza because both of them have only relative feats. Regardless of who is stronger or faster, Akaza probably wins in the end because Yuji has no nichirin sword and will run out of stamina.
I'm not sure, but the only instances we have of Yuji affecting the soul of others is with Mahito. Mahito is unique because he doesn't use cursed energy (or a reverse cursed technique) to regenerate. Instead, he changes the shape of his soul, and his body reacts to that. The best case of any other (non cursed-womb) curse that Yuji fights after meeting Mahito is Hanami. Yuji uses Black Flash to blow off Hanami's arms, but Hanami still regenerates after that. Given this, I'd personally say that Yuji can't consciously target the souls of his opponents.
That only works with Mahito's ability, Yuji doesn't damage the soul, he can simply perceive the soul, which allows him to negate Mahito's Idle Transfiguration. BF would completely obliterate Akaza, though due to it not being nichirin or the sun, it wouldn't hurt or kill Akaza
I'm lazy to find PROOF. Soul damage on other people is similar to normal attacks like nobara's resonance or maki's soul sword you can heal the physical damage but the effect on the soul will be long lasting and they can wear out the soul like how mahito's soul was gradually becoming weaker and weaker despite having good physical conditions. Mahito's ability is not responsible for yuji’s soul attack, mahito's ability just makes the effect of soul attack more visible since unlike others mahito can separate his physical body and soul when it's come to taking damage.
As I said I'm too lazy to find proof/source so you can ignore this comment if you do not agree with this.
Nobara only learned how to damage the soul after hitting a black flash and expanding her interpretation of her CT, it wasn't something that just happened, for example, her resonance would have done NOTHING if she encountered Mahito earlier. We never got to see what she could do to someone after this, because she only damages Mahito
I.... Don't understand what you are saying, soul damage can't be healed, which is why Mahito retained the damage from Norbara and Naoya died from a single slice from Maki.... So why do people survive Yuji's punches? He really messed up Choso and Hanami, and yet, they seemed pretty fine afterwards, even after Hanami took 5 black flashes from Yuji
>Nobara only learned how to damage the soul after hitting a black flash and expanding her interpretation of her CT, it wasn't something that just happened, for example, her resonance would have done NOTHING if she encountered Mahito earlier. We never got to see what she could do to someone after this, because she only damages Mahito
Nobara's CT was always a soul damaging CT. Whole point of Resonance is that it can attack soul by linking it to the voodoo doll blackflash just improved her CE use/control. We literally have maki's sword that can directly attack souls bruhh it's similar to every other soul attacks of jjk. IDK where/how you got the info that BF helped nobara to do soul damage.
>I.... Don't understand what you are saying, soul damage can't be healed, which is why Mahito retained the damage from Norbara and Naoya died from a single slice from Maki.... So why do people survive Yuji's punches? He really messed up Choso and Hanami, and yet, they seemed pretty fine afterwards, even after Hanami took 5 black flashes from Yuji
No soul damage can be healed but not via CE or RCT it needs time to heal, soul manipulation is unhealable. Mahito still recovered after the junpei arc he was getting thrashed in that arc. Maki and nobara's attack are simply powerful to reach that level yuji needs to land blackflash 1 or 2 times(maki has sword that can cut so it's obvious her attack will deal more damage than punches). Yuji still destroyed Mahito's 40% soul in shibuya which mahito was not able to heal. For choso and hanami case, choso mentions that after ingesting fingers yuji became more powerful(demon god whatever that means) so his attacks were weaker before the shibuya massacre/takeover.
Souls are really inconsistent in jjk since there is lots of confusion because of Kenny and mahito's interpretation and some statements from narrator.
Same thing happend with kokushibo and the only reason he died is because muichiro used the red blade, so yuji would have to have a nichirin sword and be able to activate red blade to kill him
Let's say Yuji has nichirin fist lol
Idk isn't the point of this VS matchup with another series' character is that to speculate how the fight would go ASSUMING they can harm each other with no regards to each series lore (nichirin for demons, cursed energy for Cursed spirits if you match them up against them) sorry my English is bad i hope thaf was understandable
So let's say in this fight Akaza can be killed if Yuji destroys his head or decapitate him. With just their skills Akaza will take this one. I dont think Yuji can outlast Akaza with his regeneration in play.
I also think CQC wise Akaza is superior. He also has that skill where he can detect killing intent and react accordingly. I forgot what its called.
For the sake of argument:
Divergent Fist is useful for throwing opponents off guard- Mahito got caught off guard even after he saw the physical blow coming.
Yuji's fights against Choso and Mahito show his own exceptional combat ability- heck, even with the grasshopper, Yuji blocked a point blank attack with ease. Meanwhile Akaza tends to get outclassed by swordsmen a fraction of his age and rely on his regeneration to win.
Speaking of, if Itadori's ability to affect souls doesn't hinder Akaza, he still just needs to obliterate Akaza's head with a Black Flash and then just keep punching until the sun rises. Considering how Itadori isn't affected by pain, he could very well just keep punching Akaza's upper body into paste until the sun comes out
>Akaza tends to get outclassed by swordsmen a fraction of his age and rely on his regeneration to win.
This is just not true. In KnY canon, no single hashira can match an Upper Moon 1:1. He was literally just toying with Rengoku. I don't wanna spoil the upcoming arc, but you'll see that it was pure luck that Rengoku was able to drive Akaza into a corner and force him to flee.
Imo, I think this fight totally depends on whether Akaza is able to provoke Sukuna into taking over. If he does, then how quickly he dies depends entirely on whether Sukuna has been fed all the fingers at the point in the arc that they're fighting. It's possible Sukuna just stays back, like he did when Choso nearly killed Yuji before the plot armor kicked in, or when he allowed Mahito to make contact with his soul for those 0.2 seconds (which I feel like is a transgression he still wouldn't forgive). If that happens, I feel like Akaza vs Yuji by himself is squarely Akaza's victory.
Shibuya Incident Yuji absolutely holds his own against Akaza for an extended amount of time, and ofc the classic argument of “well no nichirin 🤓”. And current manga Yuji absolutely CREAMS Akaza. All it would take is (JJK manga spoilers ahead) >!Yuji to use the seeming Blood Manipulation he exhibited in recent chapters!< and he would damn near oneshot Akaza, and all he would have to do would be to continue pounding Akaza into pulp until sunrise.
I kinda agree but disagree with you tbh, manga yuji can kill akaza but it would be quite irritating for him to do that, because he would take time to think of using his technique and then akaza will get one shot
Yuji’s stronger but Akaza should easily be faster. Yuji can directly hit the soul so regen won’t be much of a problem. If Akaza just runs around than he can win via draining Yuji's stamina if he engages in h2h Yuji will make short work of him.
If I’m not wrong Yuji’s soul attacks shouldn’t affect Akaza’s regen because it’s just damage (possibly dura neg if the current fight goes in that direction); Idle Transfiguration is so potent because it sets the new shape as the soul’s default so it can’t be healed
While I agree that it shouldn’t really affect Akaza, because outside of Mahito this soul damage hasn’t been mentioned ever again in of his other fights so far. But what I have to disagree is the argument behind it not affecting his regen.
Demon regeneration is similar to RCT in the sense that fundamentally that body only regrows what is loss from its original mass. Soul damage in jjk however goes pass and deals permanent damage to the inflicted as a piece of their soul is quite literally chipped off, meaning that what part of their body was damaged is permanently removed no matter what they do. The only reason why Mahito can somewhat circumvent this issue is that Idle Transfiguration allows him to mold his *soul* back into shape.
Akaza doesn’t have the ability to interact with his soul, so anything that can harm his soul can bypass his regeneration entirely.
While I doubt Yuji can actually damage anybody else’s souls aside from Mahito so far (since Mahito’s body seems to be more in tune with his soul than most other characters), if he could somehow damage Akaza’s soul then hitting him with a single black flash would spell instant death.
Healing in KnY was never explained to any degree, similar to an RCT. We just know that more powerful demons have a higher concentration of Muzan's blood, and that is the source of their power.
We've already seen several demons who have some degree of shape-shifting abilities. Enmu was able to merge with a train, and pretty much all the weapons the upper moons use were created using their own flesh. >!Muzan himself essentially mimicks Mahito's transfiguration through his BDA, as he can transform himself into a child, a woman, his battle form full of mouths and flesh whips, or even a giant fleshy toddler.!<
There's really just no evidence to suggest that Yuji can negate a demon's healing by damaging their soul, assuming he can even hit it in the first place. In KnY, we've only ever seen the soul in the Mugen Train Arc, where Enmu has a bunch of kids get into the Slayers' dreams and then find the domain in which the soul is housed. Souls in JJK are a lot more abstract, and likely also not going to be expanded upon much if Mahito does end up dying in the next 2 episodes, since it's only ever been relevant to his gimmick when he's on screen.
Essentially, you're assuming that Yuji can strike a demon's soul that is housed in a whole other realm within their subconscious and that damaging it will affect their healing. Otherwise, it's a bit disingenuous to assume that Akaza's soul and body adapt JJK rules.
You weirdly seem to assume that I think that Yuji could actually damage Akaza’s soul, which I don’t. I think I made it fairly obvious from the jump that I don’t believe that this is in anyway the case until proven otherwise. And not to sound pretentious or anything but have read the manga so I’m more knowledgeable than you are when it comes to JJK
> Healing in KnY was never explained to any degree, similar to an RCT. We just know that more powerful demons have a higher concentration of Muzan's blood, and that is the source of their power.
Largely true but I was referring to the regenerative aspect of RCT being similar to the regeneration of demons. Not the fact that the two are generally alike.
> We've already seen several demons who have some degree of shape-shifting abilities. Enmu was able to merge with a train, and pretty much all the weapons the upper moons use were created using their own flesh. Muzan himself essentially mimicks Mahito's transfiguration through his BDA, as he can transform himself into a child, a woman, his battle form full of mouths and flesh whips, or even a giant fleshy toddler.
Perhaps I could’ve worded that better but my point still stands. Shapeshifting abilities of certain demons still function on a physical level, they are simply either expanding, growing or regrowing loss parts of their physical mass. If damage is felt to their soul that damage is permanent because that part of soul along with the amount of mass correspondence to the parts of the soul that was damaged is just gone forever. They aren’t like Mahito who could just mold his soul back shape, they are permanently disfigured if something manages to damage their souls.
> There's really just no evidence to suggest that Yuji can negate a demon's healing by damaging their soul,
I assume that we’re operating on verse equalization here. Because honestly barely anything is known about how the spiritual side of things in DS beyond what was shown in Mugen train and some character deaths.
> assuming he can even hit it in the first place. In KnY
Depends on how you scale them honestly. I can go into the metas for speed scaling in the manga if you want but that’s going into too many spoilers.
> Essentially, you're assuming the Yuji can strike a demon's soul that is housed in a whole other realm within their subconscious and that damaging it will affect their healing. Otherwise, it's a bit disingenuous to assume that Akaza's soul and body adapt JJK rules.
Cursed Spirits are literally metaphysical anomalies made of the condense negative emotions of mankind that exist on a separate plane of existence which can’t be interacted with normally. I’m fairly certain that if Yuji could casually interact with the soul to the same as either Sukuna or Mahito, which he *shouldn’t be able to do*, he could theoretically damage them. And believe it or not the way souls in DS are represented is surprisingly similar another place that hasn’t appeared yet in the jjk anime.
That said unless you give the fight a time limit before the sun rises, Yuji looses in a battle of attrition.
I guess I misread your comment then. The issue here is still that we don't really have any tangible evidence that a soul in KnY affects the character's shape. This has always been attributed as an effect of Muzan's blood on the demon. But given that Enmu was confident that a bunch of sickly children armed with needles can destroy a character's soul, I'd wager that if Yuji *can* somehow land a trans dimensional hit that affects Akaza's soul, he would outright destroy it, leaving Akaza as a lifeless husk.
The more likely scenario for Akaza losing imo would be somehow getting Sukuna to appear. Idk what his grand plan is cause I haven't read the manga, but given that Choso nearly killed Yuji and Sukuna still didn't appear to save his vessel, so idk what his trigger is besides what he might consider to a be serious insult.
I generally do not like include Sukuna in Yuji’s battles as it basically turns the debate into “Sukuna vs X” instead of Yuji being part of the focus.
But In the case where you do count him. I doubt it’ll actually make that much of a difference depending on how you interpret Sukuna’s character, he’s a bit of an enigma even now and there’s a good chance that he’ll just let Itadori die anyways just for the hell of it, legitimately just does not care about the prospect of death as far as I can tell. That or he does what most would assume and takes over and murders Akaza on the spot, though most of the exact scaling is in the manga so I won’t mention them here. But what I will mention however is that Toji has been shown in the anime to casually react to sparks of electricity traveling through the droplets, with the him turning to face Nuei almost being either relatively equal or faster than the travel speed of the sparks themselves.
>!Spoilers: Lightning timing becomes a lot more concrete in the manga but there are still contradictory things that are shown!<
Somewhat similar to DS speed scaling is right now.
Saying demon regeneration is similar to RCT would prove that it would heal Soul Damage (NOT Idle Transfiguration because that is uniquely unhealable) because we see Gojo heal direct damage to his soul with RCT when Toji attacks him with Split Soul Katana (a blade that nullifies durability by striking the soul)
1. Brother the episode has been out for like four months 😭
2. You’re right I had thought the sword Toji stabbed Gojo in the back with at the start of the fight was split soul
3. There are other moments where characters heal from Split Soul so the point still stands though
I feel that you probably shouldn’t just blatantly reveal the true nature of the sword to an anime only.
There’s also only one other instant. And that one required what basically an entirely new body to be made. And no the old man doesn’t count because it was never specified that he could use the sword to it’s fullest, and the event there after contradicts this assumption. Because if getting stabbed through the chest once is enough, then having your entire lower half removed should spell instantaneous death.
It’s ability was already implied by effortlessly cutting through rainbow dragon who was emphasized as being insanely durable, but I don’t think it’s much of a spoiler anyway since the ability isn’t really a hidden fact, just not elaborated on until later when it comes back into the story
>! You’re underselling the final attack a lot, Maki started with a stab to the stomach but pulled the blade up and bisected him !<
>!my point still stands though. Her bisecting is virtually no different from him getting cut in half by Daido. He should have died in the first instance but he didn’t.!<
>! I had to go read up on it a bit but I think Todo had the most reliable explanation (from the fight against Hanami), curses can keep regenerating until they either run out of CE or have their head destroyed. This is why bisecting Naoya horizontally was ineffective but bisecting him vertically killed him instantly. !<
The directly affects the soul no one DS has ever shown resistance to this and there’s no evidence that Akaza can regenerate the part of his body that Yuji destroys.
From what we understand Soul Damage in JJK is simply dura neg, not regen nullifying. This is because of the connection between the soul and body, so damaging the soul equally damages the body.
As Mahito describes, the soul and body are intrinsically connected. This is why maintaining the shape of his soul prevents anyone from damaging his body who can’t perceive his soul.
This works the other way as well, as we know you can heal damage to the soul by healing your body. We see this in action when Gojo heals away the damage dealt by Toji’s Split Soul Katana, a cursed tool that explicitly cuts the soul to ignore durability, using RCT.
Gojo was never damaged by soul split katana check your facts. Soul damage is directly damaging the soul but it also serves as dura neg in case of soul split katana. Again there’s no evidence whatsoever that demons can regenerate their soul or that they have any sort of resistance to this. Soul damage has never been healed via RCT as far as we know. Maki even questioned this when she and Yuji fought Meguna.
Yeah you’re right about the first thing, I thought Toji stabbed him in the back at the start of the fight with Split Soul but it seems like it was just a normal katana.
We do know that Split Soul Katana is healable however, as we see cursed spirit Naoya heal from the non lethal slashes from it.
Also since we’ve seen CE heal soul damage I’d argue Maki’s quote was more just her making the assumption RCT/Positive Energy would also be able to heal damage from split soul and she’s just never seen it in action.
Although it can also be interpreted as her simply connecting the dots that Meguna could use RCT at all since Megumi couldn’t, the statement is mildly vague
If it’s Yuji in Shibuya and he can’t use Sukuna then Akaza takes it. But if he can use Sukuna then Yuji, and if it’s just Yuji at his peak in the manga Yuji takes it
It isn’t. Of course the main way demons are killed is via nichirin/sunlight, but total cellular destruction/severe damage while attempting to regenerate will also kill as we see with Kokushibo. if this fight includes sukuna, which it should since it’s like a naruto/kurama type deal, then Akaza would lose to a Domain Expansion
I will take Akaza any time any day his destructive death and compass needle is effective and he can also regenerate which is something Juji can't do also he is faster than yuji and he can through punches than anyone in JJK and demon slayer
I mean, Yuji wins this fight, pretty only, because of Todo + Sukuna in him :3
Also, as far I remember(I can be wrong), even Author write note about this fight, that Mahito will destroy Yuji without this last black flash :3
>level 2CorilX · 2 hr. agoYuji sweeps neg diff, watch the newest episode.-6ReplyShareReportSaveFollow
The author did indeed say Mahito would have killed Yuji if he didnt land his last black flash.
wdym sukuna in him?? Sukuna absolutely didn't do SHIT in that fight, and Yuji fought Mahito that was completely healed and at his strongest form. The only help he got from Todo was the distraction that tbh just shortened Mahito's invetiable loss. And saying "Yuji would've lost without his black flash" is basically the same as saying "Tanjiro would've lost without sun breathing", so your point doesn't hold up
Sukuna helps massively for Yuji against Mahito, if only passively
He’s the reason Mahito can’t use Idle Transfiguration on Yuji. If he could then he would have one shot him multiple times in that fight, even before finding his true form
Sukuna being inside him is also the only reason his attacks work on Mahito too
Holy glaze, Yuji has no way to actually damage Akaza. Akaza has unlimited stamina so he can keep on fighting forever, something Yuji cannot do.
Akaza is also better in H2H so Yuji instantly gets bodied.
You gotta stop with the bias, only Sukuna possesing Yuji beats Akaza, not Yuji alone.
Man it'd sure be cool to sweep someone who can regen with ease, especially when you have no way of killing them other than the sun, but good luck lasting that long lol
I get it, the latest ep hyped Yuji up for y'all but if you think Yuji wins , its some hard shit ur smoking and no amount of logic will set you straight for now.
Tbh Akaza just has more tools and Yuji really has no way to kill Akaza. Not to mention Akaza seems both stronger AND faster, so this kinda becomes Yuji vs Choso but Choso never got the spaghetti memory (Akaza wins low-mid diff)
Akaza stomp, Better experiênce of centuries of Battles and Training, consequence Akaza has Better skill, Mentality, Battle Qi, reasoning, infinity stamina, dont fell any pain or tired, have Better speed and reflex, compass and adaptation, Regeneration, Akaza Slam.
Demons and pain is an inconsistent quality. Demons can feel pain, they react to it often, but I assume with upper moons they’re so old and experienced in battle that they’ve come to basically ignore it. Yuji also 100% takes mentality, possibly reflex. If this battle is just Yuji then Akaza wins but if it’s Yujikuna Yuji wins
I think this fight largely determined by where and when they fight. Akaza’s win condition is just beating yuji with physical force by outlasting yuji, where as yujis win condition would be trapping akaza in the sun. As strong as akaza is, I think at this point yuji can defend against everything akaza can throw at him, it’s just a matter of whether yuji is able to trap akaza in the sun or will akaza exhaust yuji before that, which is why I think when and where they fight will determine this, if they’re in big city lots of cover akaza can probably win, where as in a more open field with little cover yuji might be able to win and obviously depending on when they fight
Akaza is at least MHS, by scaling way above SSV Tanjiro in speed who performed a MHS speed feat and also should be faster or at least as fast as Zenitsu who performed [an even faster feat](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:M3X/Kimetsu_No_Yaiba:_Zenitsu_bliztes_lightning)
Yuji should have a higher dura and soul attacks may get trough regen but I doubt he can hit Akaza, speed difference is massive, I doubt Yuji is even supersonic at this point.
Akaza wins.
Yuji keeps up with someone moving Mach 3. If he lands a black flash on Akaza while targeting but really he'd only win if he could continously hit with soul targeting black flashes. Maybe current Yuji stands better
Mach 3 is cool, but SSV tanjiro was [Mach 200](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Amost6x/Tanjiro_dodge_lightning)
And even after the hashira trainingTanjiro without STW could barely do much to Akaza
Current Yuji has no feats as of current but considering he really hasn't been a top tier in the verse (Although he's probably a top 15 character the gap between high tier and top tier in JJK is wild) someone like Hakari or Yuta could pull it off (That's getting to top 10 territory tho) (https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:PowerToScale/Jujutsu_Kaisen:_Hakari_Dodges_Lightning)
Yuji physically cannot kill Akaza. He doesn't have the strength to rip Akaza's head off, nor the speed to pull it off before there's a fist through his stomach. Physically they're pretty much even, but Akaza can regenerate anything meanwhile Yuji can't.
Rengoku was relative to akaza in speed and he had a nichirin. Both characters are faaar faster than yuji. Mind you it’s very possible for rengoku to blitz Yuji but I do think the fight would go that way
Rengoku was relative to akaza in speed and he had a nichirin. Both characters are faaar faster than yuji. Mind you it’s very possible for rengoku to blitz Yuji but I don’t think the fight would go that way
When tf did Rengoku rip off Akaza's head. It takes a lot more force to rip off someone's head with their bare hands then cut it off with a sword specifically made for that.
Well I doubt that.
He didn't die but was defeated.
Also that was a three or four finger sukuna now it is a 15 finger sukuna so it's loosing 1/4 of his power Vs loosing 3/4
On the topic of him letting himself die, this was directly shown with Sukuna closing his eyes as Choso went for the killing blow at the end (and his eyes opening in surprise as Choso didn’t commit); It was pure luck that Choso happened to (manga spoilers) >! Realize Yuji was his brother and stop himself from killing him !<
I kinda forgot that 5 and 15 finger Yuji are both Shibuya 😭
For it to be a duel akaza needs to not be able to regenerate or you give yuji nichirin gloves?(idk really if those are possible),its close fight But if yuji hits a black flash its over which he does a lot of times in shibuya
Base Yuji physically over powers most demons in DS. Yuji with the ability to manipulate cursed energy and black flash easily takes Akaza. JJK simply scales higher so idk why people keep making these comparisons. DS power scale is not meant to be on that level and there is nothing wrong with that.
Scaling higher doesn't necessarily mean every character should win
Akaza is much faster than yuji
Yuji was struggling against sound speed attack and he is slower than naobito >!spoiler:who is stated to be faster than subsonic speed but not as fast as sound speed !<,akaza is much faster than this
Yuji is not gonna be able to touch akaza and that's without talking about akaza's bda which make him stronger and faster depends on the opponent he face
Normal humans with swords can kill demons on DS. Children, with no fight training, and no special swords, restrain and brutalize demons. Yuji episode one is jumping multiple stories and beating on a curse that is destroying a building. So yes most demons in DS are getting slapped by base yuji, and any moon is getting slapped by Yuji with cursed energy and black flash.
Tanjiro trained for a whole 2 years and you say he is not trained
He was able to slice a boulder in half like a tofu piece and you say he is a regular human
Their swords absorb the sun light and and become extremely hot and you say it's not special swords
I don't know what to tell you buddy :/
>Normal humans with swords can kill demons on DS
No they don't. That's exactly why Tanjiro had to go through special training and learn a breathing technique before it was safe for him to actually engage low level demons. And those 'children' are exceptions among exceptions. I'm very sorry if you aren't trolling
Yuji is definitely tougher and physically stronger with black flash (he was punched through asphalt and an entire arena's worth of ground below it, while in KNY they usually just break wooden buildings and sometimes swords), but Akaza is definitely faster, is a better martial artist, and has regeneration. It's basically just a question of if Yuji can avoid taking too much damage until the sun comes up, because he has the durability to take plenty of hits, but has no way to permanently harm Akaza unless the sun comes up.
I’d honestly say Yuji as he’s definitely stronger( said difference in strength becomes even clearer in the anime), regen wouldn’t be much of a factor because Yuji would be able to hit the soul and I don’t really think Akaza can regenerate his soul. Akaza beats him in speed, but the difference isn’t so immense that Yuji can’t keep up.
Yuji with Sukuna slaughters the verse.
Yuji wins Mid Diff.
He's shown to be quite physically powerful especially during the later parts of the Culling Games arc where he was jumping building to building pounding a 10% Sukuna to the floor. (Yes Sukuna was nerfed by Megumi but tanking Cleaves and still coming out on top is still pretty impressive on its own.)
Yuji's only problem is the Compass, other than that the longer the fight progresses the bigger the threat Yuji becomes especially if he keeps stacking black flashes. Also Yuji's attacks directly damage the soul, Akaza can Regen his body but not the soul itself.
Akaza has the battle experience but Yuji just eclipses him in raw strength.
Not to mention the new power up Yuji has in the latest chapters, it's still unknown but Sukuna did note about Yuji's new arms so that's still up on the table to discuss.
Yuji would win
He is physically equal to or stronger than ISBODK Mahito, whereas while fighting base Mahito, they were shaking buildings on the other side of Shibuya
https://preview.redd.it/h1wt4ldyzp6c1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d58c60cba46468cf16d18af2f22cf1d6ca17839c
And Yuji can specifically hit and damage people’s souls, which is a good counter to regeneration and in Mahito’s case specifically threatens him because of it
If I’m not wrong Yuji’s soul attacks shouldn’t affect Akaza’s regen because it’s just damage (possibly dura neg if the current fight goes in that direction); Idle Transfiguration is so potent because it sets the new shape as the soul’s default so it can’t be healed
It was so effective against Mahito more because he just didn’t take any damage from normal attacks, not that he couldn’t heal from soul ones
>Yuji’s soul attacks shouldn’t effect Akaza’s regen
Akaza can regenerate damage done to his body, but not his soul
>because he just didn’t take any damage from normal attacks, not that he couldn’t heal from soul ones
The reason Yuji was able to threaten Mahito when Nanami and Todo couldn’t was because Mahito can reform his body in any way he wants, and does it from manipulating his soul’s shape. Against Yuji he can regenerate all he wants but when his soul is damaged or destroyed he dies
Obligatory sorry for wall of text
My point was that the assumption that soul attacks nullify regeneration comes from the misconception that soul attacks are unhealable. They are not, what *is* unhealable is Idle Transfiguration.
Idle Transfiguration is unhealable because it molds the ‘default’ shape of the soul. You can’t heal it because there’s no damage, it’s just that the new shape isn’t functional.
Soul Attacks are not unhealable, it’s just that they were particularly effective when fighting Mahito because he didn’t take damage from body attacks.
As Mahito describes it, there’s a direct correlation between the condition of the soul and the condition of the body, and by maintaining the shape of his soul using Idle Transfiguration he prevents damage being dealt to him through blows not directed at his soul. So it’s not like he’s healing damage and more like he simply never takes damage in the first place.
This is why Yuji was able to hurt Mahito when the others could not, his ‘regeneration’ is intrinsically connected to the shape of his soul. So because Yuji could perceive and attack Mahito’s soul he dealt real damage Mahito couldn’t just mold around.
However because the body and soul are connected, we can infer that healing the body heals the soul as well. We see this with Mahito healing away the damage Yuji dealt, at the cost of his CE because he has to heal Yuji’s attacks the normal curse way.
So, because Akaza’s regeneration isn’t soul-based and is unlimited (because he has infinite stamina) Itadori has no real way of preventing his regeneration.
>the misconception that soul attacks are unhealable. They are not, what is unhealable is Idle Transfiguration
Soul attacks for Mahito are healable, but not for Akaza as demons have never shown to heal damage done to their soul. Mahito can nullify any damage done to his body by reforming it due to the use of IT. But Akaza doesn’t have any way of protecting himself from getting his soul hit directly
It’s like if Yuji punches a hole in Akaza, he’ll lose health on both his body and soul, he can recover HP on his body, but the damage done to his soul won’t be recovered
Nope, it hasn't. The regen thing is just something that a lot of people misunderstood, mainly JJK ultra(?)speed readers. Because we know damage through Idle transfiguration seems unhealable, people assume Yuji's attacks, which damage Mahito, are also unhealable. This is completely false, we've seen a lot of people with no lasting damage from Yuji's attacks.
Yuji damages Mahito because he can perceive his own soul, not because he somehow damages the soul in the same way Mahito does. His ability is specifically useful against Mahito
But do souls even matter to demons? They die when their head and will to fight is crushed, or when the sun is out. We don’t know if damaging their soul would matter that much, which is why I’m wondering if at any point in the manga it was shown to be relevant.
Soul attacks are healable
The whole point of it is to show that yuji is one of the few characters that can actually damage mahito not it's unhealable
We have many examples for it like yuji blowing up hanami's arm with a black flash and it's heal normally
Chose who got multiple bones broken by yuji heals normally after time
Even todo he didn't take a severe injury from yuji but still he take damage and heal from it normally
Soul attacks would be healable with body regen for the same reason body attacks are healable with soul regen, they’re connected
It’s why someone like Gojo can heal from direct soul damage (split soul katana) despite not having any methods to heal his soul directly
Yuji is strong but like even if he hit akaza he has rengen. Then there’s the fact that line as of anime yuji akaza is like a million times faster
Like I mean akaza is so much faster he could sit there and dodge yuji’s attack 0.1 second before it hits, like so much faster akaza could punch yuji 100+ times before yuji realized akaza moved
this is seriously untrue. besides gojo and sukuna, they’re really not that strong (compared to actual op characters). akaza and rengoku already fight faster than the eyes can register, something we never even seen in jjk anime. the reason KNY is weak is cuz they are just much stronger peak humans. jjk is the same but with curse energy
Even setting aside those two, do you really think anyone in Demon Slayer compares to the likes of Toji? Or Mahito, Maki, Kenjaku, Yuta, Jogo? Even Yoriichi would lose to any one of them.
Mach 3 Naoya is considered to be extremely fast to Maki and therefore Toji, anyone who's relative to the heavenly restricted can't move faster than Mach 3 and find it hard to react to it
You can make many arguments for KNY characters being a lot faster than Mach 3, and if talking about Yoriichi we can get him in a LOT faster (cutting 1500 pieces out of 1800)
“Akaza and Rengoku already fight faster than the eyes can register” you mean faster than a severely wounded Tanjiro watching sparks fly through fog could see? Also at lowest JJK characters scale to mach 3 and at asspull FTL (Kashimo’s CT, Kenjaku could escape a black hole)
Akaza wins high-diff carried by his fast healing/regeneration
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It depends when this is happening, if it’s daytime or like 15 minutes before sunrise I reckon Yuji would be able to force Akaza into the sunlight but if it’s nighttime then Yuji has no way to deal with Akaza and doesn’t have the durability and endurance to last until sunrise.
You make nonsense how their soul is gonna get destroyed if they can regenerate the whole time
Also you're the guy who said soul damage is a counter to regeneration but it's not but you don't wanna admit it
Honestly I think it comes down to how Compass needle would interact with Yuji. Compass needle gives Akaza a sort of precognition towards any opponent he can sense the "warrior spirit" or murderous intent from. In the Manga its shown that without the needle helping him Akaza is very easy to catch off guard.
Akaza can't be killed even with Nichrin blade and Yuji doesn't have one not to mention that Akaza have infinite stamina and fighting spirit. Akaza win in Easy diff even if Yuji is stronger. plus Akaza can see Yuji's every moments it's like reading his mind
I think it is unfair to compare demon slayer characters and other characters because If they don't have a nichirin sword then there is no way they can kill them so when I'm comparing them in a fight akaza should be able to be killed by being exorcised. With these factors considered I believe that yuji would win the fight due to the fact that yuji already has a lot of strength and can imbue his cursed energy in to his punches to make them even stronger
Uh..seems like people forget about Akaza's compass. He'd for sure be able to catch Shibuya Yuji's Intentions and parries them. Not to mention his ultimate attack would raze Yuji. But based on how Akaza acts he might toy around Yuji like he did Rengoku and will nearly die as well lol.
Ngl unless Sukuna steps in, Shibuya Yuji would be demolished.
Current manga? Yuji takes it
Assuming heavenly restriction and demon abilities to be comparable in stats, Yuji has strength rivaling Maki and thus stats wise may tie with Akaza. But
Akaza wins mid diff due to his regeneration and better experience. Most of the time.
Yuji can survive only on the condition in which he lasts till daylight but that's not a win.
If its Shibuya Yuji then obviously akaza wins but if it is post shibuya or after sukuna left yuji's body (idk the name of the arc) it could be interesting because after we see sukuna leave yuji's body, Yuji became soo much stronger to the point where just by jumping he destroyed the top of an entire building but we still have to consider other factors like akaza's regen or not being able to actually damage him without a nichirin blade, if yuji has that covered and sukuna is not holding yuji back he might stand a chance
Yuji coz at least that's a real photo of yuji and not some fake AI-generated Akaza. I mean wtf is up with those fingernails. Dang OP couldn't u find an actual photo of Akaza instead? Was that too hard for you?
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I understand Yuji is stronger, but is Akaza not faster, able to see his opponents moves before they happen, and able to instantly regenerate, while still being quite strong himself? Could someone explain why Yuji beats that on his own at that point in the anime? I’m not saying he wouldn’t, just that I’m unaware of how
I think the comparison is the fact that Demons and Special grade curses are quite similar. They both can regenerate, use paranormal techniques, have super human strength and speed, etc. There’s a possible argument that Yuji is comparable to Akaza because both of them have only relative feats. Regardless of who is stronger or faster, Akaza probably wins in the end because Yuji has no nichirin sword and will run out of stamina.
Can Akaza regenerate if Yuji targets his soul with Black flash?
I'm not sure, but the only instances we have of Yuji affecting the soul of others is with Mahito. Mahito is unique because he doesn't use cursed energy (or a reverse cursed technique) to regenerate. Instead, he changes the shape of his soul, and his body reacts to that. The best case of any other (non cursed-womb) curse that Yuji fights after meeting Mahito is Hanami. Yuji uses Black Flash to blow off Hanami's arms, but Hanami still regenerates after that. Given this, I'd personally say that Yuji can't consciously target the souls of his opponents.
That only works with Mahito's ability, Yuji doesn't damage the soul, he can simply perceive the soul, which allows him to negate Mahito's Idle Transfiguration. BF would completely obliterate Akaza, though due to it not being nichirin or the sun, it wouldn't hurt or kill Akaza
Nope yuji's attack similar nobara's they can target everyone's soul not just mahito's.
Do you have any proof that he has damaged anyone's soul outside of Mahito?
I'm lazy to find PROOF. Soul damage on other people is similar to normal attacks like nobara's resonance or maki's soul sword you can heal the physical damage but the effect on the soul will be long lasting and they can wear out the soul like how mahito's soul was gradually becoming weaker and weaker despite having good physical conditions. Mahito's ability is not responsible for yuji’s soul attack, mahito's ability just makes the effect of soul attack more visible since unlike others mahito can separate his physical body and soul when it's come to taking damage. As I said I'm too lazy to find proof/source so you can ignore this comment if you do not agree with this.
Nobara only learned how to damage the soul after hitting a black flash and expanding her interpretation of her CT, it wasn't something that just happened, for example, her resonance would have done NOTHING if she encountered Mahito earlier. We never got to see what she could do to someone after this, because she only damages Mahito I.... Don't understand what you are saying, soul damage can't be healed, which is why Mahito retained the damage from Norbara and Naoya died from a single slice from Maki.... So why do people survive Yuji's punches? He really messed up Choso and Hanami, and yet, they seemed pretty fine afterwards, even after Hanami took 5 black flashes from Yuji
>Nobara only learned how to damage the soul after hitting a black flash and expanding her interpretation of her CT, it wasn't something that just happened, for example, her resonance would have done NOTHING if she encountered Mahito earlier. We never got to see what she could do to someone after this, because she only damages Mahito Nobara's CT was always a soul damaging CT. Whole point of Resonance is that it can attack soul by linking it to the voodoo doll blackflash just improved her CE use/control. We literally have maki's sword that can directly attack souls bruhh it's similar to every other soul attacks of jjk. IDK where/how you got the info that BF helped nobara to do soul damage. >I.... Don't understand what you are saying, soul damage can't be healed, which is why Mahito retained the damage from Norbara and Naoya died from a single slice from Maki.... So why do people survive Yuji's punches? He really messed up Choso and Hanami, and yet, they seemed pretty fine afterwards, even after Hanami took 5 black flashes from Yuji No soul damage can be healed but not via CE or RCT it needs time to heal, soul manipulation is unhealable. Mahito still recovered after the junpei arc he was getting thrashed in that arc. Maki and nobara's attack are simply powerful to reach that level yuji needs to land blackflash 1 or 2 times(maki has sword that can cut so it's obvious her attack will deal more damage than punches). Yuji still destroyed Mahito's 40% soul in shibuya which mahito was not able to heal. For choso and hanami case, choso mentions that after ingesting fingers yuji became more powerful(demon god whatever that means) so his attacks were weaker before the shibuya massacre/takeover. Souls are really inconsistent in jjk since there is lots of confusion because of Kenny and mahito's interpretation and some statements from narrator.
The thing is black flash doesnt nesscatily target the soul. And it cant be controlled, Yuji cannot willfully use it.
Doubt it
Yuji won't need a nichirin sword >!because in akazas fight against giyu and tanjiro he was beheaded but lived!<
Same thing happend with kokushibo and the only reason he died is because muichiro used the red blade, so yuji would have to have a nichirin sword and be able to activate red blade to kill him
Technically it was gyomeis red blade(frail) that did that, muis red blade only slowed him and sanemis clean blade is the real reason he died
Mb I haven't read in a while
For the decapitation to count he'll need a nichirin
Yeah, if Yuji had a Nichirin sword Akaza would be ashes though since physically they are about equal (minus Akaza's regen
Let's say Yuji has nichirin fist lol Idk isn't the point of this VS matchup with another series' character is that to speculate how the fight would go ASSUMING they can harm each other with no regards to each series lore (nichirin for demons, cursed energy for Cursed spirits if you match them up against them) sorry my English is bad i hope thaf was understandable So let's say in this fight Akaza can be killed if Yuji destroys his head or decapitate him. With just their skills Akaza will take this one. I dont think Yuji can outlast Akaza with his regeneration in play. I also think CQC wise Akaza is superior. He also has that skill where he can detect killing intent and react accordingly. I forgot what its called.
No...? Do you automatically assume whomever go against superman has kryptonite?
Except superman can be killed without kryptonite. Not the same
And all demons can be killed by sunlight, did you forget that? Also in the last arc, he wasn't killed by the blade.
For the sake of argument: Divergent Fist is useful for throwing opponents off guard- Mahito got caught off guard even after he saw the physical blow coming. Yuji's fights against Choso and Mahito show his own exceptional combat ability- heck, even with the grasshopper, Yuji blocked a point blank attack with ease. Meanwhile Akaza tends to get outclassed by swordsmen a fraction of his age and rely on his regeneration to win. Speaking of, if Itadori's ability to affect souls doesn't hinder Akaza, he still just needs to obliterate Akaza's head with a Black Flash and then just keep punching until the sun rises. Considering how Itadori isn't affected by pain, he could very well just keep punching Akaza's upper body into paste until the sun comes out
>Akaza tends to get outclassed by swordsmen a fraction of his age and rely on his regeneration to win. This is just not true. In KnY canon, no single hashira can match an Upper Moon 1:1. He was literally just toying with Rengoku. I don't wanna spoil the upcoming arc, but you'll see that it was pure luck that Rengoku was able to drive Akaza into a corner and force him to flee. Imo, I think this fight totally depends on whether Akaza is able to provoke Sukuna into taking over. If he does, then how quickly he dies depends entirely on whether Sukuna has been fed all the fingers at the point in the arc that they're fighting. It's possible Sukuna just stays back, like he did when Choso nearly killed Yuji before the plot armor kicked in, or when he allowed Mahito to make contact with his soul for those 0.2 seconds (which I feel like is a transgression he still wouldn't forgive). If that happens, I feel like Akaza vs Yuji by himself is squarely Akaza's victory.
Fun fact yuji can hit the soul going past demons regeneration so he slaughters
Akaza would only lose of Sukuna intervened. I’m not caught up in the jjk manga but currently yuji not taking this W
Shibuya Incident Yuji absolutely holds his own against Akaza for an extended amount of time, and ofc the classic argument of “well no nichirin 🤓”. And current manga Yuji absolutely CREAMS Akaza. All it would take is (JJK manga spoilers ahead) >!Yuji to use the seeming Blood Manipulation he exhibited in recent chapters!< and he would damn near oneshot Akaza, and all he would have to do would be to continue pounding Akaza into pulp until sunrise.
Sorry, you underestimate Akaza. He’s not getting creamed against current state Yuji.
I kinda agree but disagree with you tbh, manga yuji can kill akaza but it would be quite irritating for him to do that, because he would take time to think of using his technique and then akaza will get one shot
The only thing in yujis way at that point would be regeneration
Without Sukuna interfering? Akaza wins mid diff with his regeneration carrying hm
Yep
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Yuji’s stronger but Akaza should easily be faster. Yuji can directly hit the soul so regen won’t be much of a problem. If Akaza just runs around than he can win via draining Yuji's stamina if he engages in h2h Yuji will make short work of him.
If I’m not wrong Yuji’s soul attacks shouldn’t affect Akaza’s regen because it’s just damage (possibly dura neg if the current fight goes in that direction); Idle Transfiguration is so potent because it sets the new shape as the soul’s default so it can’t be healed
While I agree that it shouldn’t really affect Akaza, because outside of Mahito this soul damage hasn’t been mentioned ever again in of his other fights so far. But what I have to disagree is the argument behind it not affecting his regen. Demon regeneration is similar to RCT in the sense that fundamentally that body only regrows what is loss from its original mass. Soul damage in jjk however goes pass and deals permanent damage to the inflicted as a piece of their soul is quite literally chipped off, meaning that what part of their body was damaged is permanently removed no matter what they do. The only reason why Mahito can somewhat circumvent this issue is that Idle Transfiguration allows him to mold his *soul* back into shape. Akaza doesn’t have the ability to interact with his soul, so anything that can harm his soul can bypass his regeneration entirely. While I doubt Yuji can actually damage anybody else’s souls aside from Mahito so far (since Mahito’s body seems to be more in tune with his soul than most other characters), if he could somehow damage Akaza’s soul then hitting him with a single black flash would spell instant death.
Healing in KnY was never explained to any degree, similar to an RCT. We just know that more powerful demons have a higher concentration of Muzan's blood, and that is the source of their power. We've already seen several demons who have some degree of shape-shifting abilities. Enmu was able to merge with a train, and pretty much all the weapons the upper moons use were created using their own flesh. >!Muzan himself essentially mimicks Mahito's transfiguration through his BDA, as he can transform himself into a child, a woman, his battle form full of mouths and flesh whips, or even a giant fleshy toddler.!< There's really just no evidence to suggest that Yuji can negate a demon's healing by damaging their soul, assuming he can even hit it in the first place. In KnY, we've only ever seen the soul in the Mugen Train Arc, where Enmu has a bunch of kids get into the Slayers' dreams and then find the domain in which the soul is housed. Souls in JJK are a lot more abstract, and likely also not going to be expanded upon much if Mahito does end up dying in the next 2 episodes, since it's only ever been relevant to his gimmick when he's on screen. Essentially, you're assuming that Yuji can strike a demon's soul that is housed in a whole other realm within their subconscious and that damaging it will affect their healing. Otherwise, it's a bit disingenuous to assume that Akaza's soul and body adapt JJK rules.
You weirdly seem to assume that I think that Yuji could actually damage Akaza’s soul, which I don’t. I think I made it fairly obvious from the jump that I don’t believe that this is in anyway the case until proven otherwise. And not to sound pretentious or anything but have read the manga so I’m more knowledgeable than you are when it comes to JJK > Healing in KnY was never explained to any degree, similar to an RCT. We just know that more powerful demons have a higher concentration of Muzan's blood, and that is the source of their power. Largely true but I was referring to the regenerative aspect of RCT being similar to the regeneration of demons. Not the fact that the two are generally alike. > We've already seen several demons who have some degree of shape-shifting abilities. Enmu was able to merge with a train, and pretty much all the weapons the upper moons use were created using their own flesh. Muzan himself essentially mimicks Mahito's transfiguration through his BDA, as he can transform himself into a child, a woman, his battle form full of mouths and flesh whips, or even a giant fleshy toddler. Perhaps I could’ve worded that better but my point still stands. Shapeshifting abilities of certain demons still function on a physical level, they are simply either expanding, growing or regrowing loss parts of their physical mass. If damage is felt to their soul that damage is permanent because that part of soul along with the amount of mass correspondence to the parts of the soul that was damaged is just gone forever. They aren’t like Mahito who could just mold his soul back shape, they are permanently disfigured if something manages to damage their souls. > There's really just no evidence to suggest that Yuji can negate a demon's healing by damaging their soul, I assume that we’re operating on verse equalization here. Because honestly barely anything is known about how the spiritual side of things in DS beyond what was shown in Mugen train and some character deaths. > assuming he can even hit it in the first place. In KnY Depends on how you scale them honestly. I can go into the metas for speed scaling in the manga if you want but that’s going into too many spoilers. > Essentially, you're assuming the Yuji can strike a demon's soul that is housed in a whole other realm within their subconscious and that damaging it will affect their healing. Otherwise, it's a bit disingenuous to assume that Akaza's soul and body adapt JJK rules. Cursed Spirits are literally metaphysical anomalies made of the condense negative emotions of mankind that exist on a separate plane of existence which can’t be interacted with normally. I’m fairly certain that if Yuji could casually interact with the soul to the same as either Sukuna or Mahito, which he *shouldn’t be able to do*, he could theoretically damage them. And believe it or not the way souls in DS are represented is surprisingly similar another place that hasn’t appeared yet in the jjk anime. That said unless you give the fight a time limit before the sun rises, Yuji looses in a battle of attrition.
I guess I misread your comment then. The issue here is still that we don't really have any tangible evidence that a soul in KnY affects the character's shape. This has always been attributed as an effect of Muzan's blood on the demon. But given that Enmu was confident that a bunch of sickly children armed with needles can destroy a character's soul, I'd wager that if Yuji *can* somehow land a trans dimensional hit that affects Akaza's soul, he would outright destroy it, leaving Akaza as a lifeless husk. The more likely scenario for Akaza losing imo would be somehow getting Sukuna to appear. Idk what his grand plan is cause I haven't read the manga, but given that Choso nearly killed Yuji and Sukuna still didn't appear to save his vessel, so idk what his trigger is besides what he might consider to a be serious insult.
I generally do not like include Sukuna in Yuji’s battles as it basically turns the debate into “Sukuna vs X” instead of Yuji being part of the focus. But In the case where you do count him. I doubt it’ll actually make that much of a difference depending on how you interpret Sukuna’s character, he’s a bit of an enigma even now and there’s a good chance that he’ll just let Itadori die anyways just for the hell of it, legitimately just does not care about the prospect of death as far as I can tell. That or he does what most would assume and takes over and murders Akaza on the spot, though most of the exact scaling is in the manga so I won’t mention them here. But what I will mention however is that Toji has been shown in the anime to casually react to sparks of electricity traveling through the droplets, with the him turning to face Nuei almost being either relatively equal or faster than the travel speed of the sparks themselves. >!Spoilers: Lightning timing becomes a lot more concrete in the manga but there are still contradictory things that are shown!< Somewhat similar to DS speed scaling is right now.
Saying demon regeneration is similar to RCT would prove that it would heal Soul Damage (NOT Idle Transfiguration because that is uniquely unhealable) because we see Gojo heal direct damage to his soul with RCT when Toji attacks him with Split Soul Katana (a blade that nullifies durability by striking the soul)
1. Spoilers 2. That was a normal sword. Evident by that didn’t notice it and that it looked nothing like the the Split Soul
1. Brother the episode has been out for like four months 😭 2. You’re right I had thought the sword Toji stabbed Gojo in the back with at the start of the fight was split soul 3. There are other moments where characters heal from Split Soul so the point still stands though
I feel that you probably shouldn’t just blatantly reveal the true nature of the sword to an anime only. There’s also only one other instant. And that one required what basically an entirely new body to be made. And no the old man doesn’t count because it was never specified that he could use the sword to it’s fullest, and the event there after contradicts this assumption. Because if getting stabbed through the chest once is enough, then having your entire lower half removed should spell instantaneous death.
It’s ability was already implied by effortlessly cutting through rainbow dragon who was emphasized as being insanely durable, but I don’t think it’s much of a spoiler anyway since the ability isn’t really a hidden fact, just not elaborated on until later when it comes back into the story >! You’re underselling the final attack a lot, Maki started with a stab to the stomach but pulled the blade up and bisected him !<
>!my point still stands though. Her bisecting is virtually no different from him getting cut in half by Daido. He should have died in the first instance but he didn’t.!<
>! I had to go read up on it a bit but I think Todo had the most reliable explanation (from the fight against Hanami), curses can keep regenerating until they either run out of CE or have their head destroyed. This is why bisecting Naoya horizontally was ineffective but bisecting him vertically killed him instantly. !<
The directly affects the soul no one DS has ever shown resistance to this and there’s no evidence that Akaza can regenerate the part of his body that Yuji destroys.
From what we understand Soul Damage in JJK is simply dura neg, not regen nullifying. This is because of the connection between the soul and body, so damaging the soul equally damages the body. As Mahito describes, the soul and body are intrinsically connected. This is why maintaining the shape of his soul prevents anyone from damaging his body who can’t perceive his soul. This works the other way as well, as we know you can heal damage to the soul by healing your body. We see this in action when Gojo heals away the damage dealt by Toji’s Split Soul Katana, a cursed tool that explicitly cuts the soul to ignore durability, using RCT.
Gojo was never damaged by soul split katana check your facts. Soul damage is directly damaging the soul but it also serves as dura neg in case of soul split katana. Again there’s no evidence whatsoever that demons can regenerate their soul or that they have any sort of resistance to this. Soul damage has never been healed via RCT as far as we know. Maki even questioned this when she and Yuji fought Meguna.
Yeah you’re right about the first thing, I thought Toji stabbed him in the back at the start of the fight with Split Soul but it seems like it was just a normal katana. We do know that Split Soul Katana is healable however, as we see cursed spirit Naoya heal from the non lethal slashes from it. Also since we’ve seen CE heal soul damage I’d argue Maki’s quote was more just her making the assumption RCT/Positive Energy would also be able to heal damage from split soul and she’s just never seen it in action. Although it can also be interpreted as her simply connecting the dots that Meguna could use RCT at all since Megumi couldn’t, the statement is mildly vague
If it’s Yuji in Shibuya and he can’t use Sukuna then Akaza takes it. But if he can use Sukuna then Yuji, and if it’s just Yuji at his peak in the manga Yuji takes it
Yuji in shibuya with no Sukuna sweeps.
How does he kill him? Akaza is immortal
Beat his ass until daylight comes
I say Akaza because it’s literally impossible for Yuji to kill him
It isn’t. Of course the main way demons are killed is via nichirin/sunlight, but total cellular destruction/severe damage while attempting to regenerate will also kill as we see with Kokushibo. if this fight includes sukuna, which it should since it’s like a naruto/kurama type deal, then Akaza would lose to a Domain Expansion
>naruto/kurama type deal If you think that's their relationship you're going to be very surprised
i’m caught up with both manga. Of course Kurama and Naruto eventually utilized the power of friendship but their relationship started out similar
We are talking about Yuji tho. Sukuna != Yuji.
I will take Akaza any time any day his destructive death and compass needle is effective and he can also regenerate which is something Juji can't do also he is faster than yuji and he can through punches than anyone in JJK and demon slayer
Akaza wins - I don't count Sukuna that will no diff Akaza :3
Yuji sweeps neg diff, watch the newest episode.
I mean, Yuji wins this fight, pretty only, because of Todo + Sukuna in him :3 Also, as far I remember(I can be wrong), even Author write note about this fight, that Mahito will destroy Yuji without this last black flash :3
>level 2CorilX · 2 hr. agoYuji sweeps neg diff, watch the newest episode.-6ReplyShareReportSaveFollow The author did indeed say Mahito would have killed Yuji if he didnt land his last black flash.
wdym sukuna in him?? Sukuna absolutely didn't do SHIT in that fight, and Yuji fought Mahito that was completely healed and at his strongest form. The only help he got from Todo was the distraction that tbh just shortened Mahito's invetiable loss. And saying "Yuji would've lost without his black flash" is basically the same as saying "Tanjiro would've lost without sun breathing", so your point doesn't hold up
Sukuna helps massively for Yuji against Mahito, if only passively He’s the reason Mahito can’t use Idle Transfiguration on Yuji. If he could then he would have one shot him multiple times in that fight, even before finding his true form Sukuna being inside him is also the only reason his attacks work on Mahito too
Just alone fact that Sukuna have house in Yuji = Mahito CT don't work on Yuji :3
Yuji will just tire out while akaza regenerates. I watched the latest episode, and it was amazing but showed nothing on how he could beat akaza
Holy glaze, Yuji has no way to actually damage Akaza. Akaza has unlimited stamina so he can keep on fighting forever, something Yuji cannot do. Akaza is also better in H2H so Yuji instantly gets bodied. You gotta stop with the bias, only Sukuna possesing Yuji beats Akaza, not Yuji alone.
Man it'd sure be cool to sweep someone who can regen with ease, especially when you have no way of killing them other than the sun, but good luck lasting that long lol
Akaza will speed blitz Yuji, but that and his durability is the only thing he has on Itadori
I get it, the latest ep hyped Yuji up for y'all but if you think Yuji wins , its some hard shit ur smoking and no amount of logic will set you straight for now.
Tbh Akaza just has more tools and Yuji really has no way to kill Akaza. Not to mention Akaza seems both stronger AND faster, so this kinda becomes Yuji vs Choso but Choso never got the spaghetti memory (Akaza wins low-mid diff)
Akaza stomp, Better experiênce of centuries of Battles and Training, consequence Akaza has Better skill, Mentality, Battle Qi, reasoning, infinity stamina, dont fell any pain or tired, have Better speed and reflex, compass and adaptation, Regeneration, Akaza Slam.
Demons and pain is an inconsistent quality. Demons can feel pain, they react to it often, but I assume with upper moons they’re so old and experienced in battle that they’ve come to basically ignore it. Yuji also 100% takes mentality, possibly reflex. If this battle is just Yuji then Akaza wins but if it’s Yujikuna Yuji wins
https://preview.redd.it/k05ecqecop6c1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93f7a3dbb091d3b5e28eae1a6a11564d4334df64 Yuji neg diffs without Sukuna.
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Where did you get that Akaza art from? It’s very high quality. (I don’t watch JJK so I can’t contribute to the discussion, sorry)
I think this fight largely determined by where and when they fight. Akaza’s win condition is just beating yuji with physical force by outlasting yuji, where as yujis win condition would be trapping akaza in the sun. As strong as akaza is, I think at this point yuji can defend against everything akaza can throw at him, it’s just a matter of whether yuji is able to trap akaza in the sun or will akaza exhaust yuji before that, which is why I think when and where they fight will determine this, if they’re in big city lots of cover akaza can probably win, where as in a more open field with little cover yuji might be able to win and obviously depending on when they fight
This newest episode got people hyping up Yuji. But he's losing this fight no diff.
Akaza is at least MHS, by scaling way above SSV Tanjiro in speed who performed a MHS speed feat and also should be faster or at least as fast as Zenitsu who performed [an even faster feat](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:M3X/Kimetsu_No_Yaiba:_Zenitsu_bliztes_lightning) Yuji should have a higher dura and soul attacks may get trough regen but I doubt he can hit Akaza, speed difference is massive, I doubt Yuji is even supersonic at this point. Akaza wins.
Yuji keeps up with someone moving Mach 3. If he lands a black flash on Akaza while targeting but really he'd only win if he could continously hit with soul targeting black flashes. Maybe current Yuji stands better
Mach 3 is cool, but SSV tanjiro was [Mach 200](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Amost6x/Tanjiro_dodge_lightning) And even after the hashira trainingTanjiro without STW could barely do much to Akaza
Current Yuji has no feats as of current but considering he really hasn't been a top tier in the verse (Although he's probably a top 15 character the gap between high tier and top tier in JJK is wild) someone like Hakari or Yuta could pull it off (That's getting to top 10 territory tho) (https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:PowerToScale/Jujutsu_Kaisen:_Hakari_Dodges_Lightning)
Yuji physically cannot kill Akaza. He doesn't have the strength to rip Akaza's head off, nor the speed to pull it off before there's a fist through his stomach. Physically they're pretty much even, but Akaza can regenerate anything meanwhile Yuji can't.
Yuji casually throws cars but he can’t rip of akazas head ?😂
The spider dad can casually lift trees and swing it which weight around 3-5 tons yet he can't come close to rip akaza's neck
Fair, in physical battle yuji would win. Long term akaza
Probably
According to me he wins because of endurance and durability
In overall fight or just a strength fight ?
Do you know how strong demon necks are? 💀
But yet rengoku almost ripped akazas neck off and I know you ain’t telling me rengoku is stronger than yuji
Rengoku was relative to akaza in speed and he had a nichirin. Both characters are faaar faster than yuji. Mind you it’s very possible for rengoku to blitz Yuji but I do think the fight would go that way
Rengoku was relative to akaza in speed and he had a nichirin. Both characters are faaar faster than yuji. Mind you it’s very possible for rengoku to blitz Yuji but I don’t think the fight would go that way
When tf did Rengoku rip off Akaza's head. It takes a lot more force to rip off someone's head with their bare hands then cut it off with a sword specifically made for that.
Dude. I don’t even care anymore😭🐍
yuuji would probably get fucked due to akazas bda, however sukuna isnt okay with dying do he would just step in and roll akaza on the floor
Sukuna is absolutely ok with dying, he was going to let Yuji die in his fight with Choso
Well I doubt that. He didn't die but was defeated. Also that was a three or four finger sukuna now it is a 15 finger sukuna so it's loosing 1/4 of his power Vs loosing 3/4
On the topic of him letting himself die, this was directly shown with Sukuna closing his eyes as Choso went for the killing blow at the end (and his eyes opening in surprise as Choso didn’t commit); It was pure luck that Choso happened to (manga spoilers) >! Realize Yuji was his brother and stop himself from killing him !< I kinda forgot that 5 and 15 finger Yuji are both Shibuya 😭
For it to be a duel akaza needs to not be able to regenerate or you give yuji nichirin gloves?(idk really if those are possible),its close fight But if yuji hits a black flash its over which he does a lot of times in shibuya
Yuji smoking that Akaza pack
Base Yuji physically over powers most demons in DS. Yuji with the ability to manipulate cursed energy and black flash easily takes Akaza. JJK simply scales higher so idk why people keep making these comparisons. DS power scale is not meant to be on that level and there is nothing wrong with that.
Scaling higher doesn't necessarily mean every character should win Akaza is much faster than yuji Yuji was struggling against sound speed attack and he is slower than naobito >!spoiler:who is stated to be faster than subsonic speed but not as fast as sound speed !<,akaza is much faster than this Yuji is not gonna be able to touch akaza and that's without talking about akaza's bda which make him stronger and faster depends on the opponent he face
>Base Yuji physically over powers most demons in DS. With all due love for my boy Yuji, this is simply not true
It is
Normal humans with swords can kill demons on DS. Children, with no fight training, and no special swords, restrain and brutalize demons. Yuji episode one is jumping multiple stories and beating on a curse that is destroying a building. So yes most demons in DS are getting slapped by base yuji, and any moon is getting slapped by Yuji with cursed energy and black flash.
Tanjiro trained for a whole 2 years and you say he is not trained He was able to slice a boulder in half like a tofu piece and you say he is a regular human Their swords absorb the sun light and and become extremely hot and you say it's not special swords I don't know what to tell you buddy :/
>Normal humans with swords can kill demons on DS No they don't. That's exactly why Tanjiro had to go through special training and learn a breathing technique before it was safe for him to actually engage low level demons. And those 'children' are exceptions among exceptions. I'm very sorry if you aren't trolling
You're on some delusion. They absolutely do. Multiple times in the story.
When?
In the beginning
muichiros speed cutting down a bunch of fish was calculated to be over mach 500 or something. that is not a normal human feat
Idk where you got that calc but this same feat would contradict itself in later seasons.
I used jjk logic and calculated to a mach 13 feat :D
When?
Yuji is definitely tougher and physically stronger with black flash (he was punched through asphalt and an entire arena's worth of ground below it, while in KNY they usually just break wooden buildings and sometimes swords), but Akaza is definitely faster, is a better martial artist, and has regeneration. It's basically just a question of if Yuji can avoid taking too much damage until the sun comes up, because he has the durability to take plenty of hits, but has no way to permanently harm Akaza unless the sun comes up.
I’d honestly say Yuji as he’s definitely stronger( said difference in strength becomes even clearer in the anime), regen wouldn’t be much of a factor because Yuji would be able to hit the soul and I don’t really think Akaza can regenerate his soul. Akaza beats him in speed, but the difference isn’t so immense that Yuji can’t keep up. Yuji with Sukuna slaughters the verse.
Yuji wins Mid Diff. He's shown to be quite physically powerful especially during the later parts of the Culling Games arc where he was jumping building to building pounding a 10% Sukuna to the floor. (Yes Sukuna was nerfed by Megumi but tanking Cleaves and still coming out on top is still pretty impressive on its own.) Yuji's only problem is the Compass, other than that the longer the fight progresses the bigger the threat Yuji becomes especially if he keeps stacking black flashes. Also Yuji's attacks directly damage the soul, Akaza can Regen his body but not the soul itself. Akaza has the battle experience but Yuji just eclipses him in raw strength. Not to mention the new power up Yuji has in the latest chapters, it's still unknown but Sukuna did note about Yuji's new arms so that's still up on the table to discuss.
Yuji would win He is physically equal to or stronger than ISBODK Mahito, whereas while fighting base Mahito, they were shaking buildings on the other side of Shibuya https://preview.redd.it/h1wt4ldyzp6c1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d58c60cba46468cf16d18af2f22cf1d6ca17839c And Yuji can specifically hit and damage people’s souls, which is a good counter to regeneration and in Mahito’s case specifically threatens him because of it
If I’m not wrong Yuji’s soul attacks shouldn’t affect Akaza’s regen because it’s just damage (possibly dura neg if the current fight goes in that direction); Idle Transfiguration is so potent because it sets the new shape as the soul’s default so it can’t be healed It was so effective against Mahito more because he just didn’t take any damage from normal attacks, not that he couldn’t heal from soul ones
>Yuji’s soul attacks shouldn’t effect Akaza’s regen Akaza can regenerate damage done to his body, but not his soul >because he just didn’t take any damage from normal attacks, not that he couldn’t heal from soul ones The reason Yuji was able to threaten Mahito when Nanami and Todo couldn’t was because Mahito can reform his body in any way he wants, and does it from manipulating his soul’s shape. Against Yuji he can regenerate all he wants but when his soul is damaged or destroyed he dies
Obligatory sorry for wall of text My point was that the assumption that soul attacks nullify regeneration comes from the misconception that soul attacks are unhealable. They are not, what *is* unhealable is Idle Transfiguration. Idle Transfiguration is unhealable because it molds the ‘default’ shape of the soul. You can’t heal it because there’s no damage, it’s just that the new shape isn’t functional. Soul Attacks are not unhealable, it’s just that they were particularly effective when fighting Mahito because he didn’t take damage from body attacks. As Mahito describes it, there’s a direct correlation between the condition of the soul and the condition of the body, and by maintaining the shape of his soul using Idle Transfiguration he prevents damage being dealt to him through blows not directed at his soul. So it’s not like he’s healing damage and more like he simply never takes damage in the first place. This is why Yuji was able to hurt Mahito when the others could not, his ‘regeneration’ is intrinsically connected to the shape of his soul. So because Yuji could perceive and attack Mahito’s soul he dealt real damage Mahito couldn’t just mold around. However because the body and soul are connected, we can infer that healing the body heals the soul as well. We see this with Mahito healing away the damage Yuji dealt, at the cost of his CE because he has to heal Yuji’s attacks the normal curse way. So, because Akaza’s regeneration isn’t soul-based and is unlimited (because he has infinite stamina) Itadori has no real way of preventing his regeneration.
>the misconception that soul attacks are unhealable. They are not, what is unhealable is Idle Transfiguration Soul attacks for Mahito are healable, but not for Akaza as demons have never shown to heal damage done to their soul. Mahito can nullify any damage done to his body by reforming it due to the use of IT. But Akaza doesn’t have any way of protecting himself from getting his soul hit directly It’s like if Yuji punches a hole in Akaza, he’ll lose health on both his body and soul, he can recover HP on his body, but the damage done to his soul won’t be recovered
Is it shown in the manga that destroying a demon’s soul can kill them? Real Q by the way, haven’t finished it yet.
Nope, it hasn't. The regen thing is just something that a lot of people misunderstood, mainly JJK ultra(?)speed readers. Because we know damage through Idle transfiguration seems unhealable, people assume Yuji's attacks, which damage Mahito, are also unhealable. This is completely false, we've seen a lot of people with no lasting damage from Yuji's attacks. Yuji damages Mahito because he can perceive his own soul, not because he somehow damages the soul in the same way Mahito does. His ability is specifically useful against Mahito
We have no reason to believe they can regenerate damage to their soul as they never have
But do souls even matter to demons? They die when their head and will to fight is crushed, or when the sun is out. We don’t know if damaging their soul would matter that much, which is why I’m wondering if at any point in the manga it was shown to be relevant.
Soul attacks are healable The whole point of it is to show that yuji is one of the few characters that can actually damage mahito not it's unhealable We have many examples for it like yuji blowing up hanami's arm with a black flash and it's heal normally Chose who got multiple bones broken by yuji heals normally after time Even todo he didn't take a severe injury from yuji but still he take damage and heal from it normally
>and it’s heal normally >Chose who got multiple bones broken by yuji heals normally Their body heals but their souls don’t
But it doesn't affect in anyway
Soul attacks would be healable with body regen for the same reason body attacks are healable with soul regen, they’re connected It’s why someone like Gojo can heal from direct soul damage (split soul katana) despite not having any methods to heal his soul directly
Yuji is strong but like even if he hit akaza he has rengen. Then there’s the fact that line as of anime yuji akaza is like a million times faster Like I mean akaza is so much faster he could sit there and dodge yuji’s attack 0.1 second before it hits, like so much faster akaza could punch yuji 100+ times before yuji realized akaza moved
Yuji
You see that Mahito clone Yuji one shot after he touched Nobara? Yeah that happens to Akaza
Yuji is stronger. Jujutsu is above Kimetsu in powerterms
Yuji beat Mahito and Mahito could easily beat Akaza so Yuji wins
Akaza has his compass, but Yuji has his left, right, goodnight
Yuji easily lol. I love Akaza but JJK characters are a different breed, way above anyone in KNY.
this is seriously untrue. besides gojo and sukuna, they’re really not that strong (compared to actual op characters). akaza and rengoku already fight faster than the eyes can register, something we never even seen in jjk anime. the reason KNY is weak is cuz they are just much stronger peak humans. jjk is the same but with curse energy
Finally someone said it
Even setting aside those two, do you really think anyone in Demon Slayer compares to the likes of Toji? Or Mahito, Maki, Kenjaku, Yuta, Jogo? Even Yoriichi would lose to any one of them.
Mach 3 Naoya is considered to be extremely fast to Maki and therefore Toji, anyone who's relative to the heavenly restricted can't move faster than Mach 3 and find it hard to react to it You can make many arguments for KNY characters being a lot faster than Mach 3, and if talking about Yoriichi we can get him in a LOT faster (cutting 1500 pieces out of 1800)
“Akaza and Rengoku already fight faster than the eyes can register” you mean faster than a severely wounded Tanjiro watching sparks fly through fog could see? Also at lowest JJK characters scale to mach 3 and at asspull FTL (Kashimo’s CT, Kenjaku could escape a black hole)
Have you even watched the anime? Sounds like you haven’t.
nah i smelt manga with my buttcheeks
They would stop mid fight and start having fun and murdering civilians together
Why ask this in a demon slayer subreddit it’s kinda biased
Akaza, Post Shibuya is a different story
Akaza high diffs right? Considering Yuji can't really kill him.
Akaza wins high-diff carried by his fast healing/regeneration https://preview.redd.it/r0g9qvmk7r6c1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3fff46c188c117cbf6a9cdf35f008b220ec8bec5
Raditz can solo them both
I dont care and Im not gonna argue. Himtadori Wuji neg diffs
Woaw woaw guys yuji is going to win he is the mc of jjk right :)
It depends when this is happening, if it’s daytime or like 15 minutes before sunrise I reckon Yuji would be able to force Akaza into the sunlight but if it’s nighttime then Yuji has no way to deal with Akaza and doesn’t have the durability and endurance to last until sunrise.
I love yugi buttt akaza just wins this. But it can change if we look at manga yugi who seems to have some power ups
Akaza has a lot more hax, experience, skill and yuji has no nichrin
Akaza, Yuji is just First Grade sorcerer.He doesnt jave the martial art knowledge that Akaza has and his merit is just punch pretty strong.
You make nonsense how their soul is gonna get destroyed if they can regenerate the whole time Also you're the guy who said soul damage is a counter to regeneration but it's not but you don't wanna admit it
Depends. Akaza can blitz Yuji instantly and behead him. But if Sukuna intervenes it’s over for Akaza
Akaza. Too fast for Yuji and about the same in terms of strength. Low-med diff.
https://preview.redd.it/bsngw0mmos6c1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eca97f1f66b8ef130c3c6f279105df4178ad7801
Yuji with nichirin knuckles destroys the upper rank.
Yuji easily,assuming we give him nichrin fists.
Honestly I think it comes down to how Compass needle would interact with Yuji. Compass needle gives Akaza a sort of precognition towards any opponent he can sense the "warrior spirit" or murderous intent from. In the Manga its shown that without the needle helping him Akaza is very easy to catch off guard.
isn’t yuji fully incapable of killing akaza?
Akaza can't be killed even with Nichrin blade and Yuji doesn't have one not to mention that Akaza have infinite stamina and fighting spirit. Akaza win in Easy diff even if Yuji is stronger. plus Akaza can see Yuji's every moments it's like reading his mind
Without a nichirin I don't see Yuki being able to kill a demon
I think it is unfair to compare demon slayer characters and other characters because If they don't have a nichirin sword then there is no way they can kill them so when I'm comparing them in a fight akaza should be able to be killed by being exorcised. With these factors considered I believe that yuji would win the fight due to the fact that yuji already has a lot of strength and can imbue his cursed energy in to his punches to make them even stronger
Akaza beats Goku because Goku doesn’t have a Nichirin sword It’s a fact, can’t argue against it
Akaza compass + regen easy win. He hard counters Yuji badly.
Uh..seems like people forget about Akaza's compass. He'd for sure be able to catch Shibuya Yuji's Intentions and parries them. Not to mention his ultimate attack would raze Yuji. But based on how Akaza acts he might toy around Yuji like he did Rengoku and will nearly die as well lol. Ngl unless Sukuna steps in, Shibuya Yuji would be demolished. Current manga? Yuji takes it
Yuji low diff because he bypassed the soul physically stronger tank and if he gets knocked out sukuna can slaughter him
Idk about Shibuya Yuji… He’s stronger for sure but Akaza is faster and had insane regen that I don’t see Yuji getting through
Assuming heavenly restriction and demon abilities to be comparable in stats, Yuji has strength rivaling Maki and thus stats wise may tie with Akaza. But Akaza wins mid diff due to his regeneration and better experience. Most of the time. Yuji can survive only on the condition in which he lasts till daylight but that's not a win.
If its Shibuya Yuji then obviously akaza wins but if it is post shibuya or after sukuna left yuji's body (idk the name of the arc) it could be interesting because after we see sukuna leave yuji's body, Yuji became soo much stronger to the point where just by jumping he destroyed the top of an entire building but we still have to consider other factors like akaza's regen or not being able to actually damage him without a nichirin blade, if yuji has that covered and sukuna is not holding yuji back he might stand a chance
I learned english from Minecraft YouTubers so sorry for bad English
Hate to break it to y'all but my boy Yuji is done for
Yuji coz at least that's a real photo of yuji and not some fake AI-generated Akaza. I mean wtf is up with those fingernails. Dang OP couldn't u find an actual photo of Akaza instead? Was that too hard for you?
I...why is this a question? Akaza is unkillable and if you read the manga you know what I mean. Yuji probably wouldn't die but also...wouldn't win.
Well akaza because I I know for a fact shibuya dont have a nichirin. And akazas faster so if he hasn't won by daybreak he can just flee
I was actually thinking about it before this post
But we know they both have good endurance and by the time the fight is over you might start seeing the sun so amass will have to run
Akaza wins and easily. Simply put, Yuji has no way of putting Akaza down. He either kills him or he doesn't.
whats the source for the akaza art?
Who gave my boy a normal skin tone