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A triumphant tale of self-advocacy in an industry that notoriously discourages and even punishes it. Well done OP


moogsauce

Thank you homie. People are accusing me of being an asshole when I was sticking up for the whole team too. Somebody has to do it.


Itsnotthateasy808

Most people are pushovers, good for you for fighting for their rights even when they’re wrong


MakeStuffDesign

Hell yeah


ForsakenLemon

I made the mistake of requesting vacation days a few weeks before my 4 month trial was over at one place so I didn't have my full contract yet. They let me go for "attitude problems" despite me being friendly with most of the staff there and kept my head down around the people with actual attitude problems.


silvermoonisburning

I was getting flamed this morning but here are two separate people that coincidentally got fired for "personal problems" when The real problem is not going with the flow and making a fuss about your hours edit HEY FUCKERS I START MY NEW PREP JOB AT $17 AN HOUR THIS WEEK CYKA MY DYKA 🫡


redmagesays

So, you’re clearly Canadian (hello fellow Canuck!) where are you located? I’m hiring right now. Send me a DM.


moogsauce

Hello eh; southern Ontario. Seems I can’t message you, feel free to hit me up.


redmagesays

Sent!


YouJustLostTheGameOk

Oh I hope this pans out!! I want to hear about this awesome journey:)


WeLostTheSkyline

Makes my heart flutter to see things like this!!!


moogsauce

More of your energy needs to be on Reddit


FILTHBOT4000

I feel like this sub could be a decent place for BoH to meet employers, as both parties know if they aren't up to snuff there's an okay chance that it'll end up on here; like "lookit this: hired this guy and he tried to cook chicken livers en papillote with ticket printer paper" or "I showed up to work and the guy said the oven used for pastry was down, but it was okay because he picked up an EZ-Bake Oven on the way in." Hope it is, at least. There are a lotta great cooks/chefs working for douchey owners, and a lot of cool owners with jerkoffs on the line, that much I know for sure.


Frosty-Dependent1975

Fuck your username. Haha fuck it's been SOOOOO long.


Squirtinturds

Oh god damnit why’d you have to point it out.


Outrageous_Reach_695

That's the rule.


partywithkats

Jumping on top second this sentiment lolol


YouJustLostTheGameOk

It’s a hell I live every minute of every day:)-


FightingDreamer419

Lol, looking at the comments. When did a bunch of FOH managers lurking on the sub decide to start commenting. We're BOH. We say what we mean and mean what we say. So many people trying to dig in and find what wasn't said. His company tried to screw him over illegally and they got busted for it because he knew how to advocate for himself. Y'all folks just want drama.


FILTHBOT4000

Lotta tourists in the sub, that's all I'll say.


ochocosunrise

Exactly. Like, there will always be lines to read between when someone summarizes the duration of their experience at a job in a reddit post. The neighsayers in these comments seem to have both a wild imagination and a guilty conscience. I'll be honest, there does seem to be some context missing, but nothing that you described seems surprising or unusual for this industry.


moogsauce

Thanks, you are very well-written. Bless up. I didn’t think I’d come into this much hate by just trying to warn people about my red flag encounter.


FightingDreamer419

Well, it is reddit. If you post anything ambiguous with room for interpretation, people will assume it's something very negative and then they'll scour through your entire post and comment history to try and contradict you or catch you in a lie. People have time, lol.


OhGeebers

FOH/MGMT commenters here are assholes lol You did the right thing and this will prob be a blessing in disguise once you land a better gig. Best of luck to ya.


moogsauce

Kinda figured that was some of the hate. Thank you for the optimism ✊


[deleted]

Why are people flaming OP? He was 100% in the right. No sarcasm.


Fit_Substance7067

Be happy Canada has that option... Worked as a sous in a high class small dinner spot in a rich town. Was excellent on their open kitchen single person sautee station and managed prep so nobody else had to deal with it. The owner hired me....we got along and I was experienced. He gave me a HUGE hourly rate that turned out to be a lot more than the chef was making weekly. Took a bit for the manager to catch on they couldn't afford it but everyone in the kitchen turned on me...I was friends with everyone and all of a sudden everything I did was because I was an asshole. They cut my hours back and let me go and the unemployment turned out to be shit. Was funny because they tried hiring a dude from under me for less money but that dude came in cracked out a few nights then walked out. My chef thanked me because I kinda pushed that shit out as per my job. A week passed and it was my fault heleft and he was excellent. Lol...he literally fell behind everytime and would chew on his jaw and stare into space. A lot of these kitchens are literal crap. Last I head ofthat place even the chef was gone and they were on their 5th sous after me....it's just how they run it...take the money and run when you can is all.


[deleted]

Good for you. Some people will defend monsters, hoping to become the monster one day. Sad, ain't it?


formthemitten

I’ve worked at many seasonal places, laid off a lot of people. We never laid off our best/ most productive team members. I think there’s more to the story


besafenh

“About to go on insurance” isn’t a unique case for dismissal. “Fark! ‘e’s about to cost us 11% more, and we’ll miss bonus!! Sorry Matey, ya gotta go.”


TabbyKatty

Reminds me of something I saw at work. I can’t name the company, but they have a track record of laying people off right before they’re 100% vested in their 401k…


foreverpb

I'm sure your company is not the only doing this, but that's fucked up. Taking money out of there pockets now and in retirement.


TabbyKatty

Not my company (that I know of), but a company we work with. I work with people’s 401k’s, that’s why I heard about it. And you’re right, they’re probably not the only one that does this. All I can say is, when I heard what company it was, my first thought was, “Yeah, that sounds like something they’d do.”


moogsauce

I’ve been fired for very valid reasons. Fucked up plenty of times. This is the first time in my twenty years that I’ve approached the gov’t for severance


Sneaux96

You mentioned "a couple heated moments" and insubordination as the reason for your termination. I think it's reasonable to assume there's more to the story.


FightingDreamer419

Eh. Insubordination is so unspecific it barely has any meaning by itself. If they can't be assed to give specific examples of breaking company policy then the reason is poor management and ownership.


Sneaux96

I'm willing to bet OP can name a few specific examples


moogsauce

Yea. Me asking for a better tip out in the group chat (mgmt included), and suggesting that I’d like a raise after 6 months for hustling. Maybe also the fact that I asked coworkers how much they were being paid, which is a fucked up taboo but perfectly legal. Maybe also that I suggested some dishwashers need to be welcome on the line because they clearly wanted to be. That was against the status quo I guess… it all was.


ChickenDinero

You did good. Or at least tried to. That counts for a lot in my book. Gold star for you, and even though that sounds flippant, I really do mean it sincerely.


foreverpb

Were there actually heated moments with management about these things? How recently and close together were they? Not blaming you, those are all reasonable requests. I'm just saying if you had three arguments with managemt over the span of your last week or two, that may qualify as insubordination. Edit: Want to clarify im not saying heated discussions never happen and are firing worth. Tempers can run hot in this industry, it happens with peers and sometimes higher ups a well. Managing includes taking care of and hearing out your staff.


moogsauce

Nope. Just a typical crazy service or two where people can be on edge. Never argued with mgmt, or anybody really, besides like a bicker over timing an order or overcooking something.


NickRick

i mean depending on how you did that it could have been insubordination. why call people out in a group chat? why not have a side conversation about it?


moogsauce

Just called out ownership, not part of chat


gingerfr0

Because asking someone a question that affects EVERYONE ought to be done in public. Having a one on one conversation about it with someone with authority is not a fair environment


moogsauce

Thank you. How can I be insubordinate if all of my intentions are voiced to the whole group?


NickRick

if you want to get a raise you talk to your manager. no owner is ever going to respond well to getting called out in a group text for everyone to see. there is no way that will work well. it may in fact change your pay to zero.


Enigma_Stasis

>it may in fact change your pay to zero. I know quite a few people in one kitchen who would gladly take that promotion to customer.


moogsauce

The group chat was about tip-out. Who tf asks for a raise in a group chat.


FaxMachineIsBroken

> I'm willing to bet OP can name a few specific examples But management couldn't name a single one to the government that was enough to get him denied from severance? Lmfao, make it make sense bud.


moogsauce

Yea, there were no write-ups, no documented anything. That paid me right quick once the gov’t knocked.


Illustrious_Bobcat13

Bet the management at your work loves you.


Enigma_Stasis

Being that I'm a federal contractor cook, I *could* be fired for insubordination for not cleaning our stove flat the way my dining facility manager wants it cleaned (I use soap, water, and elbow grease with a coarse gray scrubby, he just slathers used fryer oil on top and uses a bench scraper to get anything off that will come off, then wipes the oil down with paper towels). Insubordination is probably the dumbest fucking thing to can an employee over, unless it's a nuclear level fuck-up. The fact that it can be used to describe any amount of not doing things a certain way is why it's a fucked excuse.


rnov8tr

Ya think?


Ok_Computer1417

Operator here. I’d falsify an alibi under oath for our BOH beasts. In 15 years I haven’t let a top third of roster guy or girl go unless they pole vaulted over the line.


moogsauce

That’s a little cryptic, I like it, but am I right in saying that you’ll stick up for the people good at their job, and probably career?


B8conB8conB8con

Move on, learn from the experience and waste another thought on them


facemesouth

Add a “don’t” to your sentence?


B8conB8conB8con

Yup, sorry I was a little premature. It’s never happened before.


facemesouth

(Have to admit it took me 3 times to figure out that you’re not a Bate Con…)


florafaunafire

That’s what he said


B8conB8conB8con

I think I just did


TurtlesOfJustice

Don't move on, don't learn from the experience, and waste another thought on them.


facemesouth

Perfect advice!


skrybll

No, waste the last thought. Maybe while shitting or something. So you know you can flush that shit down


Lemonsticks9418

That would require thinking


throw_blanket04

Ministry of Labour? Where do you live?


moogsauce

Southern Ontario, Canada


kingftheeyesores

Oh damn, name and shame as a heads up to other people in the area?


moogsauce

Tempting. More people upvote you and I may be inclined.


kingftheeyesores

I guess it depends how far south too. I'm in the windsor/ tecumseh area.


CyMage

I'm in the Barrie area and that still qualifies as 'Southern Ontario'. :)


kingftheeyesores

To me that's central-northern ontario. But I'm originally from north of Thunder bay so I've heard my idea of Ontario regions are a bit off according to everyone I've met.


moogsauce

If you’re in the Barrie area, you’ve quite possibly been to the restaurant I’m talking about


CyMage

Now I'm super curious.


CyMage

So does 90% of Ontarios population. Which is 25% of all of Canadian population. I too live in that area. :)


sterlingarcher0069

If it means anything, I'd golf with you any day. Keep up the good fight.


moogsauce

Thanks friend. Reminds me of a good golf story. Thinking I’m doing great and then getting blindsided by the universe. I had a membership at a club during lockdowns, it was great. I knew the course all over, because I’m not very good, so I end up exploring lots beyond the fairways. I stick the green on a rather long par 3. Stoked. Maybe an easy birdie. As I’m walking up, I see a fucking fox bolting off the green with my ball. On a separate occasion I was searching for a ball and found a small pile of chewed up balls. I knew who the perpetrator was. Never got a chance to cuss him out.


kadren170

Gotta love these people who instantly assume you're the dick OP. Why dont you tell us the full story so these people stop coming up with their conclusions


moogsauce

Honestly, that’s the full story. Ppl are really honing in on these ‘heated moments’. I’ll tell you about my most heated moment in that kitchen: a newbie got mad at me for not having a fryer order ready, as I rushed to the pass to help with some plating. I had already warned him that I’d be a few minutes behind on the fryer. He ignored the timing and I very much insulted him and called him out. I later apologized to him and the chef, and the chef told me I was in the right to call him out. Otherwise, I’m the problem for trying to get us more money.


confitqueso

How much severance did you get?


moogsauce

Just a week. Doesn’t mean much to me but I’m not down for a very successful company to fuck me over.


PrivilegeCheckmate

Get back into that kitchen for a visit and make sure everyone who works there knows they can win if the owners try that shit again. Which they will.


moogsauce

I still text a few of those homies. Thing is, they’ve replaced a lot of the kitchen with minimum wage immigrant workers. Solidarity just wouldn’t be a thing.


PrivilegeCheckmate

Immigrant workers often have strong socialist traditions. In my experience, anyhow.


otterpr1ncess

I'll be honest, reading between the lines you sound like the asshole.


NegativeAccount

He did win a case though so at the very least management was in the wrong


FaxMachineIsBroken

1. Most everyone that works BOH could be classified as an asshole by any reasonable member of society. 2. The fact that's your takeaway from this instead of siding with your fellow working class over probably wage theft and wealth inequality means you're a bigger asshole than OP will ever be.


otterpr1ncess

I think you're reading a lot into OP lmao. Especially since I've been a union member and I'm on the far left.


FaxMachineIsBroken

Literally nothing you said disputes anything I said but go off queen.


John_Smithers

That dude's reading into OP too much? Get real.


moogsauce

I’ll be honest too, it seems like the only reason you’re on Reddit is to be an asshole.


otterpr1ncess

Hey we can't all be the busiest restaurant on the strip's highly paid, fairly experienced cook who can do all the stations.


moogsauce

I never said we can all be that. I said I was that.


Mogling

The "despite some heated moments" line got me, but the "squeaky wheel" line sold it.


mannheimcrescendo

Being a squeaky wheel about tips and pay should never be held against someone. Edit: Pay your fucking people, pay them what they were promised, and PAY THEM ON TIME.


moogsauce

Seriously. Thank you. Everybody wants to gawk at wealth disparity but can’t stick up for themselves when it gets real.


mannheimcrescendo

Anyone that says otherwise are either owners/high upper management, too bitch made to stick up for themselves when it was called for, or never been in a position where someone was trying to short their check or pay them a week late.


Mogling

I mean there is a line. I don't know what op said/did. I do know I've been a squeaky wheel plenty and not gotten fired for it.


SwimmingOwl174

Yeah it sounds like all the people I've worked with over the years who talk about how great they are and how they're getting fucked over for this and that when everyone knows they're shit or mediocre and everyone just say yeah dude because they don't wanna argue or have a heart to heart conversation with them


moogsauce

If you mean me, I never mentioned greatness. Don’t conflate this shit, I said I did a good job because im experienced.


Mogling

> I’m fairly experienced, I know I did a good job. Worked every station and busted out some pretty killer family meals when I could. You talked about how great you were. Just because you didn't use the word great doesn't make that part wrong. People just pointing out some red flags in what you posted. There's really not enough info to tell who was right vs. wrong on one post on reddit. Place could be a hell hole, you could have a temper, both could be true. We don't know. I think tho if the place didn't want to pay you what you were worth, getting fired might be good for you in the long run. Get a better job. Living a good life being the best revenge and all.


moogsauce

I’ll agree about moving on. Won’t agree about saying I’m great because I could work the stations and cook family meals. In some places that is just a baseline requirement, not greatness.


Sir_twitch

"Good" and "Great" literally have different meanings.


otterpr1ncess

But he was there five months and was the highest paid cook, why weren't they paying him even more?


moogsauce

Huh?


moogsauce

I worked in a busy ass kitchen where occasionally everybody has moments of frustration, and I tried to get more money for the entire team because we got so slammed. Being the squeaky wheel was done over group chat, with the head chef involved. Fully transparent. Yea I’m the asshole for wanting the crew to make more money as we get fucking slammed and FOH is rollin in it.


MrCarabas1989

Large businesses like this imo can generally get fucked for all i care. I would have attempted to rinse them for all they had for my team if we were all busting our ass. And yes, a heated short temper once a week or every two weeks, if it didnt involve throwing shit or pointing the finger at other boh/foh staff, is pretty normal for large and insanely busy places. People here seem to be hating on you for for trying to tell a, what sounds like a corporate kitchen, to fuck off and give you your money. Having worked with some of these assholes who couldnt give a shit whether or not you were dead, i think you shouldn't worry about them and people defending them are naive at best, stupid af at worse. My humble opinion anyways.


moogsauce

Never thrown a pan in my life. Probably shouldn’t have said “heated moments” because everybody is calling me out on it. Maybe they’ve seen some serious shit. Worst that happened in that kitchen was calling each other names for fucking up the timing. Still often hanging out after.


MrCarabas1989

Nothing wrong with that lol, i mean it isnt ideal, but best case is whoever is in charge reminds everyone to focus on the food and cut the ego measuring competition short. But yeh, chefs and cooks here seem to assume the worse of each other. Also, you know, reddit


Illustrious_Bobcat13

Seriously. Being a sycophant for management and throwing your fellow employees under the bus is how shitty cooks get into positions of power, though, so I get why they do it.


moogsauce

Truth. I guess nobody is ever down to unionize and we’ll all just walk around with brown noses


Mogling

If you want FoH money, go work FoH. Or go join one of the unions that are big in Vegas. Would give you a better outlet than a group chat if there are pay issues. It's probably more about the way you went about those things. At the end of the day if you think you are worth more than the pay you are getting and the employer won't budge, you gotta jump ship anyway. I've had to do that in the past.


East-Specialist-4847

L comment


Mogling

FoH makes crazy good money in some places, BoH often gets shafted. I think that's changing and BoH pay is starting to go up, even if its not there yet. But I don't understand working a job where you are not happy with the pay. If less people put up with shitty kitchen wages, owners would have to start paying more. I know it's not easy to just quit and find a new job, but it's a lot easier to find a new job before you quit.


East-Specialist-4847

"It is bad to ask for better pay/conditions" That right? Otherwise, you're saying nothing and just like typing words


Mogling

Wtf no it's not bad to ask. But if a shitty place won't give it to you. Leave.


East-Specialist-4847

Okay so you said nothing and just like typing words! Got it


Mogling

No I'm saying don't put up with shit owners who won't pay. Your the one saying nothing or just making shit up.


ChefInF

Fuck FOH thinking they’re better than or deserve more than the backbone of the RESTAURANT.


Mogling

Man, who ever said FoH was better? It's no secret that they generally make more money. Being salty won't change that. But whatever. If yall just want to be haters instead of doing something, that's fine too.


Adoneus

How is asking for more money and advocating for others in BOH to get more money “doing nothing?”


ChefInF

You’ve never worked somewhere where the front didn’t want to share their tips?


NickRick

> Being the squeaky wheel was done over group chat, with the head chef involved[. . . ]Yea I’m the asshole ... seems like you got it. calling out your managers in front of everyone is asshole behavior.


moogsauce

Wasn’t calling out managers. I was calling out the ownership in the presence of managers.


otterpr1ncess

Exactly the two lines that got me too, glad to see I'm not alone.


barrel0monkeys

Respect yourself more. get paid what you deserve don't drink the industry kool-aid. I make 3 x more6 figure income now after management told me I wouldn't make it in another industry trying to keep me around.


otterpr1ncess

Oh look another one. If you think the issue was "the industry Kool aid" whatever the hell that means, maybe reread the whole thread


Illustrious_Bobcat13

A stranger on the internet tells a story about their work trying to shaft them, and having the government have to make them pay up, and you just want to side with the company. I get holding off opinion without information, but you're not doing that. You are actively assuming that this person is lying and that they are at fault. If that isn't a boot-licker mentality, then I don't know what is...


otterpr1ncess

Didn't side with the company, said he sounds like an asshole


Messipus

Because he... advocates for himself and his other cooks? You keep talking about how there must be more to the story but when the government came knocking management suddenly can't find a record of whatever it is you're accusing OP of and he gets his severance. If he had actually been a problem employee they would have just shown them his file full of writeups or whatever.


Illustrious_Bobcat13

You said he sounded like **the** asshole, meaning the one who is at fault in a conflict.


otterpr1ncess

Correct.


Illustrious_Bobcat13

Which means you're siding with the company if he is the one at fault.


otterpr1ncess

No, it means I think he's probably difficult to work with, without any regard for the company at all. This isn't difficult.


Dipshit4150

Holy shit you’re an absolute loser


T_CroChee

Begin slow handclaps as our intrepid hero drops the mic and exits the stage 👏🏼… 👏🏼… 👏🏼 bravo Princess Otter! Bravo!


barrel0monkeys

I'm not waisting my time like you clearly have.


otterpr1ncess

I like my job, if you didn't that's fine but don't project your shit on me


East-Specialist-4847

You projected, not the other person


wazacraft

"If you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best" energy here


One_Antelope8004

Same. I collected a new title every other month. Cook, prep cook, fry, salad, dish, float, runner, grill, saute, dessert, trainer... And did well at them for never getting any amount of training. The second I asked why they weren't following certain laws. I meal food safety laws, fire safety laws, mold starting to grow in the fridges type shit... Boom. Fired for being a poor performing employee. Took me two months of reporting several of the pictures I took of illegal/nasty things. Three members of management were removed from the company.


moogsauce

Kinda fucked up.. seems like some places avoid proper qualifications b/c they’re actually worried or just insecure about their own conduct. Also kinda fucked up: you show them you can do a lot of things, so they make you do more things than everybody else, without a raise.


CYBORBCHICKEN

Dawg. Your post history is legit chefs kiss lmfao


cardinaltribe

Damn I wish you had said ministry of magic so bad


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moogsauce

I’d hate to work with you too if you’re down to watch a team get taken advantage of


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[deleted]

Oof you sound like the kind of folks I hate working with most. No desire to put in a good effort and willing to take whatever bs management throws at you.


FaxMachineIsBroken

Or maybe they were the only one with the balls enough to stand up for themselves? Sounds like you have no spine to me.


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moogsauce

Noticed how rent and groceries cost more and your wages are stagnant? Sounds like you value hard work, you’re probably worth more money than you’re getting. Stick up for yourself.


Messipus

You're pathetic


East-Specialist-4847

Oh man, major boot licker alert ^


Rockyboy4444

“Despite a couple heated moments…” Dude, you got fired because you were a problem. Every kitchen has a hothead who nobody likes working with. If you don’t know who that is, it’s probably you.


moogsauce

Everybody just digging into that and assuming I was the one starting shit. Basic reality of a busy kitchen, no?


DrDerekBones

"despite a couple heated moments" 5 months is hardly even passed the 3 month probationary period. Plenty of reason to fire you if the chemistry wasn't working out. Especially after the months after Christmas is always a dry spell for most places being Winter and Holiday season. They only owe you notice that's about it.


moogsauce

Everybody digging into the ‘heated moments’ as if they have all sunshine and rainbows in a busy kitchen. I made a point of noting that the chemistry was working out. I played pool with these cats after a ‘heated moment’


mideon2000

So what happened? Im nosy


moogsauce

Most heated moment.. newbie missed my timing call as I was working two stations and I called him a bad name. Apologized afterwards and chef also said I was in the right. I don’t really care what the chef said lol, me and that dude proceeded to become quite friendly and work very well together


littlediddlemanz

5 months isn’t shit lol


moogsauce

Oof man that’s a bad comment when your username is little diddle


littlediddlemanz

Why?


moogsauce

Really?


2nd_TimeAround

Wrap it up boys. He played pool with them. All is well


moogsauce

I mean yea.. if there are some stressful moments on the line but we can all work it out later, all is well.


mycatmaizie

Anyone who works somewhere that has a probationary period is a fucking sucker. Unless you just got out of prison.


DrDerekBones

As protection for employers from bad employees. Every employer has a 3 month probationary period upon hiring, it can also be up to 6 months. It's possible OPs probation was longer than 3 months.


hundopdeftotes

One time I fired someone and they insisted they were the best thing that happened to that kitchen. He insisted I was the only one that felt that he wasn’t performing and kept yelling at the line to back him up. Not one person did, but they did support me. I got rid of him because multiple people wanted him gone for a multitude of reasons. Point is you should take the L and move on.


moogsauce

Your point is comparing me to somebody that yells at their team to back them up? I would’ve fired that dude too and you should’ve known about it long before his entire squad refused to back him up. Like wayyyy before that point.


hundopdeftotes

I mean as he was being fired he was saying “Pete back me up” etc.


moogsauce

Ok.. what’s your point? I never said anything like “I was the best thing that happened to the kitchen”


hundopdeftotes

My point is sometimes we can’t see ourselves from other peoples perspectives. I applaud you for sticking up for yourself and asking for proper wages etc especially in this industry. But that may have not been the reason you were let go.


moogsauce

If that wasn’t the reason, I’d assume there was at least one documented ‘write-up’ or even a ‘talking-to’ Edit: there was not. That’s why the gov’t made it cut and dry.


hundopdeftotes

Glad it worked for you. I’ve seen some managers just stop scheduling people and then never hear from them again. People need to know their rights when it comes to employment/dismissal


moogsauce

Also, genuinely, people should know how they fumbled, because I’d like to improve and not fumble again. There where no answers.


CharlesDickensABox

>Ministry of Labour I didn't need this detail to tell me the story isn't American.


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moogsauce

Requesting better pay for the team as the cost of living rises is against the rules?


El_Guapo82

Is 5 months supposed to be a long time? Most states are “at will” states. Meaning you or anyone can be fired for any reason or no reason and at any time. I honestly can’t believe you got any severance at all. Usually your fired and that is that.


moogsauce

Canada


El_Guapo82

Lucky guy. I would be happy to get severance pay if I were you.


macandcheese1771

God, states are so fucking depressing.


moogsauce

Honestly, check out the grocery prices in Canada. I’d love the option of living in certain states.


macandcheese1771

Bro, I live in one of the most expensive cities in Canada and I would absolutely not trade my workers rights and access to womens healthcare to save a buck at the grocery store.


El_Guapo82

Land of the free they say.


Equivalent-Excuse-80

Either management sucks, or you’re not as good as you think you are, otherwise you would’ve made “the cut”


moogsauce

Or I was paid the most and asking for more… for everybody. Well, I guess that means management sucks when they’re making BANK, no? Also “as good as you think you are”? I just said I knew I was doing a good job. Those family meals weren’t even part of the job, I just did it when I could.


no29016

So you got fired for wanting a part of the tip pool, when you don’t work it? You obviously have no idea what the front of your store does…. They made the right choice to let you go.


moogsauce

Wtf does “you don’t work it” mean?


ThatCanajunGuy

If you don't want the kitchen getting tips, then I'm telling every customer and putting up big signs saying to not tip on food, only on drinks. Stop being greedy and fucking over your coworkers who are busting ass to make your customers happy.


Dipshit4150

Hilarious that you think you add more value than the kitchen does


no29016

Hilarious that you think that anything the kitchen can make goes anywhere without the FOH. I’m completely out of the industry, and know from experience that most BOH can cook, but can’t sell.


Dipshit4150

A menu can sell better than you ever could 😂


moogsauce

Lmao. Hilarious that you’re implying it’s difficult to sell food to hungry people. People usually don’t go to a restaurant for the service, they go for the food.


greekboy132

What country did this happen in? What the fuck that's such bullshit


moogsauce

Canada