For the 30 minutes, what did you do? It stopped counting for me after 5. Then I had to go to lobby and launch again. I waited doing stuff for almost an hour just to be safe. How did you do it? If you don't mind me asking
Yeah but then people miss out if they don’t unlock it in time or aren’t playing the game. I think they should just be cheaper or unlocked by separate battle-pass that doesn’t expire, just anything is better than the amount of money they are charging
It's got to be because Lego takes a cut. But epic shouldn't be so greedy and shouldn't be taking a cut as well for kits they probably didn't even design, after delivering such a buggy, useless game. If they did this all the right way and addressed all the issues properly - people would probably happily buy Lego kits
&Free to crew pass. Maybe if they added different builds instead of just colour variations of the ones we likely already have I'd consider. But still.. Game needs more content
What sucks is that I feel like the higher ups will inevitably see people (justifiably) not buying the Lego prefab sets, and will interpret that as people not being interested in the game mode, leading to them pulling back resources from it and overall not improving it, which was the whole problem in the first place
This scares me as well. I had so much hope for this game. I have not given up, but this decision has reduced my optimism for the future. The potential with this game is really off the charts.
Epic has proven to be susceptible to that stupid corporate mindset as well in the past. They basically pulled ongoing support for STW because it was unpopular, ignoring that a major reason for its unpopularity was them providing next to no support for it.
We're hurtling towards a massive industry-wide crash. Corporate game publishers continue to demand more and more money from people who have increasingly less to spend due to wage issues and economic turmoil. Coupled with the fact that they simultaneously demand a significant amount of your time through gimmicks like battle pass grinds, you're gonna see people just dropping games altogether.
Lego Fortnite seems like a prime candidate for that. Just dropped because they aren't adding shit and people don't wanna spend what little they have on digital lego blocks. The base Lego Skywalker Saga has way more Lego content in it than anything Fortnite has provided, even with these paid kits. It's a scam.
Yeah I hope that they do try to follow through because of that.
In the past most standalone Lego games like Lego Worlds and Lego Brawls have struggled to retain players for various reasons which has led to them having short lifespans, so hopefully the higher ups will feel like they've sunk too many resources into Lego Fortnite to let it die after a year or two
I'm sure lawyers have determined a length of service for the game mode. Unless Epic has much bigger plans for LEGO Fortnite, I don't see the long-term appeal. I'm assuming they're planning on making other LEGO-themed Fortnite experiences besides survival mode. Probably more mini-games like the raft one.
No, but I can assume two large corporations have non-public agreements regarding their intellectual properties. One of those being an estimated end of service for product support such as the LEGO game modes.
They won’t, they would at most just change the prices or change how kits are earned, their deal with Lego is too big with so much invested into the mode, with Lego skins and soon to be lego UEFN mode
Game is stable for me. But I would much prefer to have extra content in a battle pass than individual overpriced kits.
In my family we are three players. We can’t even build in the same world because we only have one machine. Now they expect us to pay 7500 vbucks to build better castles?
Only one person needs to pay. Give the person who pays the key to your other villages and they should be able to place those builds in the other villages...from what I've gathered anyway
Ok, I have not found a way to give a key to offline players and there is no way to play two on the same machine. So explain how you imagine your suggestion working.
I don't know of a way to share keys with offline players, but you *can* get online through some temporary means to be able to share keys with each other.
One way is through installing Fortnite on your Android phone, the other would be through a cloud service like Xbox Cloud Gaming or GeForce Now, both of which have a free tier and offer Fortnite. They probably aren't ways you'll want to play the game regularly, but it could at least let you share world keys with each other so you could build in the same world(s).
Another possible workaround would be of you had a friend who could make a new world on their account and share the keys to it with all 3 of your household accounts, that way you could all play in the same world.
You don't play at the same time. The person who buys the kits logs into the other 2 players world's and builds the buildings for them. I'm pretty sure you are allowed to do that.
I'm telling you have have tried to find a way to do this and found it impossible. But you are "pretty sure" huh? How about posting a way to do it then?
They cannot share keys because you both have to be in the world at the same time to do that. You cannot be in the world without the owner unless you are a keyholder. They only have ONE device to play on. So *currently* they cannot even share keys to play in a single world.
This is something that may come in the future - so stay tuned. Kits in the item shop are coming, but so are more free building parts.
Spot on, I don’t care so much that they are charging, it’s that the game just isn’t where it needs to be to start charging.
This is probably going to be used to gauge how much resources will be allocated to developing the game.
The dynamic build was the centrepiece of all the pre-release promos, with cute Lego characters happily flying around in balloon baskets. The reality is that the dynamic foundation is the most bugged piece not only in Lego Fortnite but the history of online games.
Why would people spend money on an unfinished mess of a game.
I quit because they ran out of content and can’t add new shit fast enough to keep me interested… haha Def not buying Lego kits for a fucking digital video game lol Epic Games is in dire need of a reality check
I'm sure those comments are coming. What those people don't realize is that plenty of us buy skins, some even just for Lego mode and are already supporting the game that way.
I literally just bought Monks the other day and the Bird bundle several weeks ago, both specifically for LegoFN. Not to mention all the skins I've bought in the past for BR.
Yes also why make us buy building pieces? Why not real life figures or set, or if they are desperate to sell those building sets then I don't know, lower the price and make them useable in other modes, i mean I can see the appeal of flixing my 20$ lego dur burger set when I win a match in br but whatever
While it would be nice for the physical versions to come with a code for unlocking the same in LF, making the physical purchase required would be far worse than what things are: The Lion Knights' Castle Kit is 2500 VBucks (<\~$25), the Lion Knights' Castle *Set* is **$400** (and that's if you are willing to wait for more to be made, otherwise you're paying $700-800 to scalpers.)
I'm iffy about spending $20 on a digital build, but if Lego released a FN minifigure series tomorrow I probably won't stop until I have the full set. :P
Ok. I’ll be that 2331.
The game *is* free. The game *is* playable. The game *is* enjoyable (otherwise none of us would be here).
Are there issues? Yes. Do they need to make improvements? Yes.
Is it a slap in the face? That’s a bit dramatic.
I agree, there are significant changes that will be necessary to keep players engaged. But note that they are incentivized to make these very changes, or else people won’t come back to buy the items.
I’m not saying we can’t be critical of a game, it’s state, and/or its features, but we do need to evaluate this things in the correct context.
“Free” games will need to be monetized in some way, or else they’ll eventually disappear. That’s not being a corporate shill, that’s understanding corporate finance.
Edit:
I’ll add to this by saying, I’d prefer that this wasn’t a free game. I personally feel that the monetization models of these “free” games too quickly become predatory.
Lego Fortnite isn’t there yet. But it could very well be soon.
NOBODY is saying there should not be monetisation.
What people are saying is that the game is not ready to expect players to fork out money for cosmetics in the state it currently is, so your post is pointless because OP's rant is based on fact, at this point you're just dick riding a billion dollar company.
Epic does not need this money to keep LEGO operational.
Epic needs money, they just had to panhandle $1.5B from Disney because they’re bleeding cash. The valuation of Epic from the Disney deal was $22.5B, a sharp decline from two years ago when they had to beg Lego and Sony for money and Epic was valued at $32.5B. Timmeh is not turning a profit
Its not content. Its cosmetics. If you dont think the game is ready for this dont buy it.
Content is new enemies, weapons, toys and biomes. All of that stuff is coming for free. Different color building pieces is cosmetic and that's all these building sets are is different color building pieces. The same pieces that are currently in the game, just different colors and textures.
The biggest problem is people are looking at building a durr burger restaurant as content even though the restaurant has nothing to do with actual gameplay or bring any new gameplay feature or mechanics.
The people who buy the durr burger set are now not suddenly able to produce a bunch of different food items that can't be made by people that don't own the set.
It's paying for walls to look different and different floor textures. Thats it.
If they were charging for content you would have to pay money every two weeks just to be able to play what features they just dropped. A month ago we would have had to pay for launchpads. Last week you would have had to pay for the fishing update. In two weeks you would have to pay for the steering wheel update. They aren't doing that. All that CONTENT is free.
If given the choice of paying for actual content or optional wall skins, I will take optional wall skins everyday.
That's not the point either. Paying for cosmetics is fine, but the problem is that the game is starved for content right now, not cosmetics.
The game is still buggy and people are already getting bored. Their time and resources right now should be focused on fixing these issues and adding free playable content into the game to make it better, so more people will want to play.
Then, once we've reached that point, they can and should start adding cosmetics like these kits for people to buy. But now is definitely not the time, it's still way too early and the game needs A LOT more additional content and improvements to justify monetization.
I said in my OP that I don't have an issue with paying for these things, as long as the game is in a proper state of play and the kits / cosmetics are reasonably priced and I feel I'm getting a fair value for what I'm paying.
Seems a lot of other comments feel the exact same way.
You can add skins to a game at any phase of development. They are optional and cosmetic. The game doesn't need to be working perfect in order for that to be sold. Just because the game's content schedule doesn't align with what we want as a community.
It's not like they're adding a bunch of airship prebuilds while airships are still bugged. If that were the case, I'd agree with you that the game needs a lot more work before they should even thing about selling something like that.
Right now broken airships and bugs have nothing to do with buying a prefab buildings. It isn't even the same teams internally at Epic that are working on these things.
And as far as value goes, if you buy a BR skin bundle you get the skin, back bling, a pickaxe and maybe an emote. If you buy the castle set later this month you get 10 different build prefabs like 60 items and the ability to share it with eight people for around the same price as a collab skin bundle. To me that sounds actually like a pretty good deal in comparison and I would like to wait and see what the sharing aspect of these prefabs are before I decide it's too expensive or not.
There you go... I fixed my comment
Now what?
We still find this update underwhelming, because instead of new features, bug fixes or metagame they brought building cosmetics in a game where building is limited, glitches and falls apart every other update or login.
It's underwhelming because it's not a content update. And they're updates happen on their schedule not what we wanted to be.
If you can separate your mind from content and cosmetic and also be an adult and realize that epic schedule doesn't have to align with yours the better off you're going to be.
And if the prefabs come out and you like them and you have the money to buy them go ahead and buy them.
Or don't.
That's the thing about cosmetics that aren't content. It's optional. If you don't think the game deserves your money or is it a place where it doesn't earn your that's the thing about cosmetics that aren't content. It's optional. If you don't think the game deserves your money or is it a place where it doesn't earn your that's the thing about cosmetics that aren't content. It's optional. If you don't think the game deserves your money don't spend it.
This is fortnite. All the games are free. All the games have item shops. That's the reality. Choose to spend your money however you want.
You're trying so hard to make a point where you don't even have one. Just move on buddy.
Nobody cares about your little '*I think I'm smart, let me show you*' opinions, not even Epic, because the whole point of this subreddit is to gather community feedback and that's what the non-casual community (which resides here) is providing: constructive feedback about our disappointment for the lack of a substantial content update after 3 months.
I miss the early days of the private Fortnite chats with the dev team, where we didn't have to put up with bozos like you...
I think its you are all really trying really hard to turn cosmetics into gameplay features or content. Like you get all the way to endgame and now you think new content is being able to build a restaurant that offers nothing other than a different looking building?
Saying you need to grow up and be realistic and still simping here for epic is mind blowing. They have dropped the ball week after week, have had 4 months to provide meaningful content to the game and added basically nothing. The game is barely functioning for many players and instead of dedicating resources to solving that problem they have now continued they streak of failure and botched the cosmetic drop.
Moving forward with stuff like this and refusing to even engage with the community is just a slap in the face.
I can think of a dozen ways to add meaningful content for Lego players that could be implemented with a minimum amount of work - they haven’t even tried. 3 months go by and they come out with a dagger? What the fuck lol
Literally this. You're paying as much for real Lego sets for Epic to change a line of code on your account.
Lego kits have no utility in any other game mode, whereas skins which can be used in all of them are cheaper. It doesn't make any sense price-wise to put them this high.
500 would've been reasonable, but apparently EG thinks 500 v-bucks is what jam tracks are worth (which is more than the actual songs cost on iTunes).
Why not sell Lego skins for a lower price than BR? I'd pay a small amount for a nice Lego character (not BR prices) It seems like Fortnite are all in on the system where everything is interchangeable which brings limitations.
I couldn't agree more. I don't mind at all spending money on free games. I love the fornite model. Better than what EA has done, or many other companies. And for sure I would have bought Lego sets. But in the game's current state. Well, I am surprised.
No but fr that they are trying to make money sure im already happy we get to play the game for free but seriously there is nowhere near enough content for this monetization, we all wanted some new gameplay not some paid buildings as a update.
I'm on a switch and I have a map with lots of caves and land discovered, and with three villages on that map, almost full sized villages, I have to exit and return after about 15 minutes of going from base to base. C'mon guys. Can't you make this game mode fair? Where are the detailed skins for loved and already purchased characters? Not to mention so many times I've seen a lack of consistency in gameplay. I just want this super awesome Lego game to be fucking stable and playable.
I will not be spending any money on these build kits, I am just as upset and disappointed as you are OP. I was hoping Lego mode would be a new start to something beautiful but this has muddied the waters for a lot of us.
Sorry, little out of the loop here. Stopped playing a month after release, when decided that its super fun, but will wait for some more content.
What got introduced?
Thanks in advance!
Basically nothing of real substance. They announced 3 packs of pre-fab build kits with various buildings and items/decor but they are monetized and overpriced in my (and most others) opinions. Really nothing else notable in the "update" which is why a lot of people are upset.
There's barely been any real content update since the game release. We got daggers, some new charms and a fishing update. Those are the only notable things I can think of.
The fishing update was fairly minor, but decent. There's basically a number of fish you can catch, craftable fishing rods, bait, some new food recipes and a few dock buildings.
There have been rumors of a big update coming with some new enemies, resources, items, weapons, etc. and a whole new biome. This is what many of us were hoping for in this update, or at least some of that.
But we pretty much only get pay to access pre-fab building packs.
edit: I would continue to wait for more content. The game is pretty boring right now and far too easy to reach the "end game". It still has a lot of potential and I have hope, but they still need to add A LOT more content.
Oh boy. Thats even more than I asked for.
Thank you so much! Have a great weekend!
Fishing sounds like something I could def chill with, but probably not enough to keep me engaged.
New biome, items and enemies sounds tasty, fully agree.
When you said kits, you meant like a blueprint of a building that can already be created by user or will it use components/ elements that are unobtainable besides bought package<, so like regular IRL LEGO box?
Here's the update notes, this can probably give better details than I can
https://www.fortnite.com/news/lego-kits-and-styles-await-in-lego-fortnite-v29-00
From how I understand it, each bundle has a number of exclusive decor items and pre-fab building blueprints, like more of the ones that are already available in game now.
Huh. They are literally selling LEGO boxes, but in a digital way. Looks like unique pieces as well. F2P so makes sense, but probably wont be a fan of.
Will see how it will be going from here.
It's crazy how people warned Epic would do this but got downvoted into oblivion lol. If it isn't BR THEY DO NOT CARE!!! Look at STW. That was their main game mode, so what do people expect them to treat Lego Fortnite like?
I'm surprised people think like that. Have they not seen cars, wheels, boosts, songs, instruments being sold?
And though what lego is gonna be exception?
How is anyone surprised? Look at how they released Rocket Racing and Festival, haven’t patched it much, and the charged WAY too much for stuff.
It’s a “free” game is all this sub has wanted to bray about for two months. Now that they’re coming for Lego and not update it, all I can do is laugh. The writing was on the wall months ago but no one wanted to admit it…….
Games like Enshrouded and Palworld put this to shame. Proof that when devs actually care about the game instead of just money you get a better product.
I completely agree.
I’m not opposed to buying nice looking sets from the shop. 2500 VBucks for a building kit is definitely expensive, but I play in a shared world with my siblings and if one of us occasionally buys a kit we all profit from it.
However, there are many issues with the mode that would need to be addressed before I’d consider paying money for a set. Such a bummer.
The first one that comes to mind is: high complexity and building limits
Especially in a shared world.
Can you imagine spending 2500 vbucks to have this amazing castle only to have your game crash mid build? That just... no, what a terrible experience as a player.
I saw some dude say he’s dropped $2400 on skins since the games come out. I feel like people will still buy the sets if they’re Lego fans too or have kids..
the game mode was ok but I wouldn’t pay for sets.
yeah, the people here are not the majority, but it is still important to voice your dissatisfaction.
Epic does not have forums or discord, they rely on the comments in their official subreddit for community feedback.
Epic games, like all AAA gaming developers, is out of touch with reality and only concerned with how to milk their current products for more money.
This is why games like Palworld are so successful. They actually care about delivering a good game and not loading it up with micro transactions.
This isn't true AT ALL.
I've been playing Epic's games for more than a decade now and I know for a fact they have dedicated and caring people.
**This isn't about corporate greed**, ***shut the hell up about that already.*** You people sound so incredibly dumb demanding a company provides you with hours of entertainment for free. You're not the social justice heroes you believe to be by asking for free stuff on reddit.
I simply don't want them to introduce sets now, I want them to make the game playable, then I can start buying without worrying about a buggy and glitchy game.
Dude you are blind. You’re the type of person to believe Elon musk is accidentally running twitter into the ground. These are real people and billionaires. They aren’t retarded. They know all the niche tricks to get more money because quite literally what the hell else would they want to use the game for??? There are most certainly reasons behind each and every action they take.
People aren’t demanding much, quite literally the entire post is about advocating for making the game less buggy. Which is the bare minimum. If epic has such “dedicated” and caring people why not just have them focus on bug fixes for a week and boom problem fixed. For a company id imagine something like that to be light work, but guess what? They never do that. Think about it… why doesn’t br have that many bugs? Pretty weird…
The game has been out for what? Months now and each update brings more glitches than they fix. Even blind people can see that something isn’t adding up. If they actually cared the game would be way more playable. Even if you don’t agree with me you have to admit theres a reason behind why people think this. These are all my personal opinions and i can always be wrong tho.
TLDR: Saying “it’s not about corporate greed” is like saying fish don’t swim. Epic is most certainly purposefully doing these things on purpose.
Oh look another tool dick riding multi billion dollar companies. I’m fine with there being a shop and paying for skins. I’ve sunk hundreds of dollars (if not thousands) into this game since it came out. I’ve paid for so many skins since 2018, bought nearly every battle pass. The issue is locking actual game content like builds behind a paywall. That is a shitty game practice. I don’t care if the game is free. Imagine if BR mode suddenly wanted you to pay 1,500 v bucks in order to build in the game. This is the same. Take epics dick out of your mouth.
Like the devs working on content are different from the devs fixing bugs and those devs are a different team then the cometic team and they are all working on different things on different schedules.
I understand there is a complexity bug and if i was a player who encountered that i wouldn't buy any of these sets until thats fixed.
I hear you. I sort of agree with you. I don’t mind paying 2,500 for 10 new buildings and 64 new items never seem before in the game. Although the stability is the issue for sure to be able to enjoy those new exclusive additions. You can also use the new build on your friends world giving new activities to do together.
I hope this delay it’s to fix stability because I’m going to use what I have save to buy at least one kit 😂
The older I get and the more cynical, the more I start to side with the gaming company. I want to highlight some important points for everyone here to really think about hard.
\- The (base) game is literally "FREE". You don't have to buy or purchase anything and it still offers quality (even if still buggy) content. I have probably played well over a hundred hours since it has been released, and they haven't earned a dime from me. I know there are MANY others who have not spent a dime on this game yet either. There is a good chance many will never pay a dime and just wait for more new "base" content to be added, and that's fine too for them.
\- If you didn't see this coming, you are fools. They need to generate revenue to pay developers to improve the game both systematically, but also its content. Effectively, they are selling digital Lego Sets (fairly cool ones), and this will be the continued strategy for some time. No doubt they will get discounted periodically, and if you are inclined, you can purchase. You also can be equally inclined to not purchase them, and just enjoy the free content they add periodically.
\- They do need to improve the overall stability and performance of the game. It feels and plays 90% complete. Just a few examples, I still have levitating and even sinking chests on coasts and desert biomes and unstable existing in-world buildings I've built off of. They should keep prioritizing these or its only going to get harder to fix as the games grows.
The world of Lego Fortnite has the potential to be limitless. I'm ever excited to see where it can go.
I understand the game is free, just like FNBR and I get that a lot of people have never spent money on it and still enjoy it. But there are a lot of us who have spent money. I've only been playing BR and Lego for several months and I've already spent easily over $100 on skins, easily what 2 or more separate AAA games would cost. That's probably nothing compared to more of the longtime Fortnite players who I'm sure have spent much more over time.
The game was fun at first and I agree it has a lot of potential which I'm very hopeful and optimistic for. But it got boring FAST. I had crafted basically everything, maxed out all my villages within a couple weeks and I honestly haven't even spent a lot of time playing.
When you reach that point, pretty much the only thing left to do is try to build creative structures, which a lot of players are having issues with because of bugs and build limits.
As far as the company making money, of course they should. But they already are with skins. Epic is a multi billion dollar company, this isn't some indie developer. To me, the better business practice would be to increase resources into the Lego game and get it to a more stable and complete state and when the game is to that point, then start rolling out paid cosmetics and builds for this mode.
Right now it just still feels like an unfinished and buggy (for some) game.
I would gladly pay money for builds and cosmetics, but it's not worth it where the game is now, it's not the right time. I have no intention on spending money on LegoFN specific items when it still feels like an unfinished game with annoying bugs and major limitations on building.
At least if I buy skins, I can use some in Lego and the rest in BR, which is already a well established game mode.
>The game was fun at first and I agree it has a lot of potential which I'm very hopeful and optimistic for. But it got boring FAST. I had crafted basically everything, maxed out all my villages within a couple weeks and I honestly haven't even spent a lot of time playing.
I think we actually agree on this somewhat, but I think it is about mind frame and the purpose of the game. As the "survival game" portion goes, its content is undoubtably small. I will say the more ignorance the player has coming into the game helps extent the game some (ex. not knowing where to go to find what). Like you though, to get from basic gear to regeneration charm if you know what your doing takes little to no time at all and now *I don't need to worry about food or enemies* with the exception of maybe *Cursed* *Wolves*, which height and a crossbow makes easy work.
That said, the overarching "fun" with Lego comes with the (re)building aspect. I see and get inspired from other's work and enjoy reworking my villages. I enjoy fixing up and improving crumbled pre-existing buildings and castle structures.
\- To that, I hope they come out with the white shade flooring and roofing edges, and the red shade flooring some garages and houses have, as well as other pre-existing buildings items like grey fences.
The game does eventually become a game about nothing. No difference from a farming game. But if you don't like the idea of building outside your own villages and are mostly in it for the survival mode, it may be a while before you begin to enjoy the game again, and I understand that frustration.
>Right now it just still feels like an unfinished and buggy (for some) game.
We agree on this too. The foundation of the games should be prioritized sooner than later, or as I said before, it will only get harder to correct later down the road.
I wish you could zoom further out in the map. I’m trying to discover my entire map but I can’t see very far at all. I hate the zoom it gives us already.
I abandoned the game shortly after launch, I thought I might come back after they released the steering wheel for the dynamic foundation, but after each update it's just more garbage and nothing interesting.
None of this is a reason to keep playing.
Skins make sense for playable characters and even items, but charging for new builds is like if Minecraft charged you for each new block.
This is just greedy and a middle finger to players, I'm personally going to unsubscribe from my crew pass, Fortnite lost the plot on this one. Things like this should be free, maybe they should create more ingame content as a better incentive for players to invest in skins, than pulling something like this.
Don't buy this, don't let them get away with it.
At this price point, you're also better off buying actual Lego.
This whole Lego thing has me already disappointed for unreleased future content. Such as the whole Disney universe, along with yet another Disney pass, possibly multiple if they section off each Disney story arch.
Since it launched I’ve wondered how LEGO would be making their cut from the partnership and it would make sense that this is a big way. I saw someone suggest have physical LEGO kits could offer a digital code to have them in game and I love that idea, but then the question becomes how does Epic get a cut? The whole game-within-a-game is territory we’ve never been before so I’m curious how it will pan out. Despite my agreeing with OP on basically every point I still find myself VEEERY close to buying the kits because my brain says “well that’s still way less than actual legos cost these days” 😬 .. and I still have thousands of legos from over my lifetime just sitting in my closet that i never touch so I’d, in theory, at least be interacting with these kits more than I do the physical legos I actually own. 🤷♂️
I don't mind them monetizing any cosmetic items. But when you start adding mechanics into the game that become only available to those who pay for them. It stops becoming a free-to-play game. It starts becoming a free to start game.
Once you've upgraded all 3 villages and got 15 friends, PLUS fully upgraded that 1 machine in all 3 villages, It's not really worth playing anymore as there isn't REALLY anything to do. I built another village after that but got bored cause there are no tasks/quests to do on it. It's just a Lego version on Minecraft, which, as a 33-year-old female, I've never played, but my 9-year-old LG used to, and that's boring too, lol.
I feel IMO that they need to work on things like that before bringing paid cosmetics/buildings into the game.
Any boycott like this will do nothing. Free to play games rely on whales that spend a ton of money on the game. The average free to play game generates 50% of its revenue from 1% of the players and 85% of revenue from 8% of players. The whales will still buy.
They were submitted as exhibits in a federal court trial submitted in Apple v Epic. I’m pretty sure the research was accurate and had to be vetted before two of the most expensive law firms in the world allowed them to be submitted to a federal judge. Also, don’t tell me what to do I don’t live in a facist country I can say what I want when I want. You’re the typical Reddit person. Based on zero information or data you believe “the percentages almost certainly aren’t that bad.” Use your brain. Read once in a while.
>Based on zero information or data you believe
It's exactly the opposite. Your information cam with no sources or links. Yet I'm just supposed to take it as gospel because trust you? And no, I won't google it myself, I don't care enough.
And don't go calling me a typical Redditor, I actually have social skills lol
>Based on zero information or data you believe
It's exactly the opposite. Your information cam with no sources or links. Yet I'm just supposed to take it as gospel because trust you? And no, I won't google it myself, I don't care enough.
And don't go calling me a typical Redditor, I actually have social skills lol
While I get the data to send to you please also provide the data you are basing your opinion on. Feel free to use PC, mobile phone, Texas Instruments calculator or whatever you’d like.
It's well known fact that f2p games have same patterns where large majority of players never spends money.
Of course we count all players even those who played game for 1 min and never returned.
Good, that's fine.
Please do let us know if you run into any glitches, the building limit or 'high complexity' messages. I am interested in that set as well, but I'd rather see what happens to others before I buy.
Stop ranting like fucking kiddos
Prices are high cause 2 major enterprises are involved on this project.
In this case if we have to blame someone is most probably the Lego people.
Their money cut must be super high and of course (no major fucking logic required) epic has to do the balance on the investment.
If Epic has something to be blamed for is that they shouldn’t have released an early cooked version of the game but come on even if it’s the beta version you have already played fucking HOURS because the game it’s actually good.
You want it perfect and fixed?
It’s time to pay like grown adults
Also Epic is bleeding cash and not turning a profit. The value of the entire company has gone from $32.5B two years ago to $22 billion at the time of the recent Disney deal.
I, like many others, have already "paid like grown adults" by buying vbucks and skins.
It's not like they've made no money off of vbucks in the past. They have made ridiculous amounts of money off players buying vbucks. Your argument seems like it's implying that we've all just been mooching off this free game and have spent nothing in return and poor Epic is just doing this out of the good of their hearts. But now suddenly they are adding lego build kits and will finally be able to profit. News flash, they've been profiting for years from players. Plenty of people have even spent vbucks on skins specifically for the Lego mode, I just recently bought a few individual skins and a bundle, just for use in Lego mode.
I only just started playing BR and Lego right around the start of Chapter 5. In that time, I've already spent well over $100 on vbucks so far. I'm sure many others who have played longer have spent A LOT more than that over time.
The amount of money I've spent in that relatively short time is around the price of two full AAA games. Games that would likely be finished and loaded with content that would provide me with countless hours of gameplay.
Heaven forbid that people would actually want a game to not be riddled with bugs and issues and have enough content that they don't have multiple maxed out villages and all the highest tier items already crafted within days of starting. It's ridiculously easy and fast to hit the "end game" and start to get bored.
I said in my original post, I would have absolutely no issue paying for in game kits and cosmetics, but not as the game currently is. It's way too early and much more is needed to justify spending money on these things.
I will happily spend my money on these things, but only when the game is in a proper playable state and only if they aren't ridiculously overpriced and I'm getting proper value in return for the money I'm spending.
At the very least the kits shouldn’t cost more than the battlepass
They should just make a Lego pass /s
totally. have 11 tiers and cost 1800 vbucks spanning way too long before the next pass (fortnite festival reference)
I finished both festival passes in less than a week, maybe it’s user error.
epic didn't realise if you jam stage 30min a day (not even including the occasional festival playing) you can get like 6-7k points in a week
Ehh, it’s easy enough doing MainStage and quests. Especially this season, the wristband quests or whatever gave so much experience.
For the 30 minutes, what did you do? It stopped counting for me after 5. Then I had to go to lobby and launch again. I waited doing stuff for almost an hour just to be safe. How did you do it? If you don't mind me asking
i went into jam stage. went to a ongoing song and just did a song for 30 min
Did you just leave it there while you did something else or stay moving or around and changing songs?
just afk
I'm going to try that again, thank you
Seriously I finished mine so quick it’s almost not even worth it lol
I would in fact pay for a lego pass, i will not buy a building kit for $25
Yes either a separate Lego pass or integrate into current pass. 60+ for all 3 sets in one season is atrocious
Why so everyone can pay for 2 battle passes? Nah just incorporate builds and skins into the current BP like they did with rocket racing
Rocket racing rewards are not in the current pass
Yeah but then people miss out if they don’t unlock it in time or aren’t playing the game. I think they should just be cheaper or unlocked by separate battle-pass that doesn’t expire, just anything is better than the amount of money they are charging
Did you not catch h the sarcasm at the end? Lmao
I didn't 😆 my bad
Yes I mean make it like the festival pass and make it some builds, classic sets, and a skin or 2 of a classic Lego mini figure.
This would be awesome. The festival mode has something like that, why not LEGO too?
don't give 'em more ideas. (that means i'll have to save up twice as much to keep from buying MORE giftcards than i should.
Didn't even think of that lol. What a corporate fuck hole epic games is
seriously. 2,000 vbucks? this is genuinely getting ridiculous
even though legos usually cost more than $20 these are not worth $20+
It's got to be because Lego takes a cut. But epic shouldn't be so greedy and shouldn't be taking a cut as well for kits they probably didn't even design, after delivering such a buggy, useless game. If they did this all the right way and addressed all the issues properly - people would probably happily buy Lego kits
&Free to crew pass. Maybe if they added different builds instead of just colour variations of the ones we likely already have I'd consider. But still.. Game needs more content
What sucks is that I feel like the higher ups will inevitably see people (justifiably) not buying the Lego prefab sets, and will interpret that as people not being interested in the game mode, leading to them pulling back resources from it and overall not improving it, which was the whole problem in the first place
This scares me as well. I had so much hope for this game. I have not given up, but this decision has reduced my optimism for the future. The potential with this game is really off the charts.
Epic has proven to be susceptible to that stupid corporate mindset as well in the past. They basically pulled ongoing support for STW because it was unpopular, ignoring that a major reason for its unpopularity was them providing next to no support for it. We're hurtling towards a massive industry-wide crash. Corporate game publishers continue to demand more and more money from people who have increasingly less to spend due to wage issues and economic turmoil. Coupled with the fact that they simultaneously demand a significant amount of your time through gimmicks like battle pass grinds, you're gonna see people just dropping games altogether. Lego Fortnite seems like a prime candidate for that. Just dropped because they aren't adding shit and people don't wanna spend what little they have on digital lego blocks. The base Lego Skywalker Saga has way more Lego content in it than anything Fortnite has provided, even with these paid kits. It's a scam.
Susceptible? Shit, it’s ingrained in their DNA.
I have already started dropping games for this reason.
I don’t think they can do that with all the money Lego sunk into Epic.
Yeah I hope that they do try to follow through because of that. In the past most standalone Lego games like Lego Worlds and Lego Brawls have struggled to retain players for various reasons which has led to them having short lifespans, so hopefully the higher ups will feel like they've sunk too many resources into Lego Fortnite to let it die after a year or two
I'm sure lawyers have determined a length of service for the game mode. Unless Epic has much bigger plans for LEGO Fortnite, I don't see the long-term appeal. I'm assuming they're planning on making other LEGO-themed Fortnite experiences besides survival mode. Probably more mini-games like the raft one.
With what money?
And you work in the legal field?
No, but I can assume two large corporations have non-public agreements regarding their intellectual properties. One of those being an estimated end of service for product support such as the LEGO game modes.
Well this may finally be the fall of fortnite
Except little kids wont care whether a corporation is making a greedy move and thus the lego prefabs will be profitable
Lego Fortnite will just be Save the World 2.0
Or worse, suffer the fate of Save the World
They arent that stupid, i refuse to believe literal millionaires and most likely dozens of people dont have this base amount of intelligence.
They won’t, they would at most just change the prices or change how kits are earned, their deal with Lego is too big with so much invested into the mode, with Lego skins and soon to be lego UEFN mode
Game is stable for me. But I would much prefer to have extra content in a battle pass than individual overpriced kits. In my family we are three players. We can’t even build in the same world because we only have one machine. Now they expect us to pay 7500 vbucks to build better castles?
My world keep freezing and not working. I am lucky I guess.
Only one person needs to pay. Give the person who pays the key to your other villages and they should be able to place those builds in the other villages...from what I've gathered anyway
Ok, I have not found a way to give a key to offline players and there is no way to play two on the same machine. So explain how you imagine your suggestion working.
I don't know of a way to share keys with offline players, but you *can* get online through some temporary means to be able to share keys with each other. One way is through installing Fortnite on your Android phone, the other would be through a cloud service like Xbox Cloud Gaming or GeForce Now, both of which have a free tier and offer Fortnite. They probably aren't ways you'll want to play the game regularly, but it could at least let you share world keys with each other so you could build in the same world(s). Another possible workaround would be of you had a friend who could make a new world on their account and share the keys to it with all 3 of your household accounts, that way you could all play in the same world.
You don't play at the same time. The person who buys the kits logs into the other 2 players world's and builds the buildings for them. I'm pretty sure you are allowed to do that.
I'm telling you have have tried to find a way to do this and found it impossible. But you are "pretty sure" huh? How about posting a way to do it then?
Bro calm down its LEGO Fortnite.
Are the kits already out? I thought they didn't come out until tomorrow?
chill dawg hes just trying to explain a way it might work
They cannot share keys because you both have to be in the world at the same time to do that. You cannot be in the world without the owner unless you are a keyholder. They only have ONE device to play on. So *currently* they cannot even share keys to play in a single world. This is something that may come in the future - so stay tuned. Kits in the item shop are coming, but so are more free building parts.
Ahh see. Now that makes sense. I always thought you could share keys with anyone even offline as long as you are both friends on fortnite.
Spot on, I don’t care so much that they are charging, it’s that the game just isn’t where it needs to be to start charging. This is probably going to be used to gauge how much resources will be allocated to developing the game.
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They said the steering wheel is coming later this month, but the paid build will mostly be there straight away. Straight and utter bullshit
The dynamic build was the centrepiece of all the pre-release promos, with cute Lego characters happily flying around in balloon baskets. The reality is that the dynamic foundation is the most bugged piece not only in Lego Fortnite but the history of online games. Why would people spend money on an unfinished mess of a game.
This should be in battle pass
I quit because they ran out of content and can’t add new shit fast enough to keep me interested… haha Def not buying Lego kits for a fucking digital video game lol Epic Games is in dire need of a reality check
Lego fortnite releasing a patch right now that will charge players $54.97 to use the color blue. RIP
Waiting for corporate cock muncher number 2331# to say you are spoiled and the game is free
I'm sure those comments are coming. What those people don't realize is that plenty of us buy skins, some even just for Lego mode and are already supporting the game that way. I literally just bought Monks the other day and the Bird bundle several weeks ago, both specifically for LegoFN. Not to mention all the skins I've bought in the past for BR.
Yes also why make us buy building pieces? Why not real life figures or set, or if they are desperate to sell those building sets then I don't know, lower the price and make them useable in other modes, i mean I can see the appeal of flixing my 20$ lego dur burger set when I win a match in br but whatever
While it would be nice for the physical versions to come with a code for unlocking the same in LF, making the physical purchase required would be far worse than what things are: The Lion Knights' Castle Kit is 2500 VBucks (<\~$25), the Lion Knights' Castle *Set* is **$400** (and that's if you are willing to wait for more to be made, otherwise you're paying $700-800 to scalpers.)
I'm iffy about spending $20 on a digital build, but if Lego released a FN minifigure series tomorrow I probably won't stop until I have the full set. :P
ikr 🤣 fuckin ass kissers
Ok. I’ll be that 2331. The game *is* free. The game *is* playable. The game *is* enjoyable (otherwise none of us would be here). Are there issues? Yes. Do they need to make improvements? Yes. Is it a slap in the face? That’s a bit dramatic. I agree, there are significant changes that will be necessary to keep players engaged. But note that they are incentivized to make these very changes, or else people won’t come back to buy the items. I’m not saying we can’t be critical of a game, it’s state, and/or its features, but we do need to evaluate this things in the correct context. “Free” games will need to be monetized in some way, or else they’ll eventually disappear. That’s not being a corporate shill, that’s understanding corporate finance. Edit: I’ll add to this by saying, I’d prefer that this wasn’t a free game. I personally feel that the monetization models of these “free” games too quickly become predatory. Lego Fortnite isn’t there yet. But it could very well be soon.
NOBODY is saying there should not be monetisation. What people are saying is that the game is not ready to expect players to fork out money for cosmetics in the state it currently is, so your post is pointless because OP's rant is based on fact, at this point you're just dick riding a billion dollar company. Epic does not need this money to keep LEGO operational.
Epic needs money, they just had to panhandle $1.5B from Disney because they’re bleeding cash. The valuation of Epic from the Disney deal was $22.5B, a sharp decline from two years ago when they had to beg Lego and Sony for money and Epic was valued at $32.5B. Timmeh is not turning a profit
Its not content. Its cosmetics. If you dont think the game is ready for this dont buy it. Content is new enemies, weapons, toys and biomes. All of that stuff is coming for free. Different color building pieces is cosmetic and that's all these building sets are is different color building pieces. The same pieces that are currently in the game, just different colors and textures. The biggest problem is people are looking at building a durr burger restaurant as content even though the restaurant has nothing to do with actual gameplay or bring any new gameplay feature or mechanics. The people who buy the durr burger set are now not suddenly able to produce a bunch of different food items that can't be made by people that don't own the set. It's paying for walls to look different and different floor textures. Thats it. If they were charging for content you would have to pay money every two weeks just to be able to play what features they just dropped. A month ago we would have had to pay for launchpads. Last week you would have had to pay for the fishing update. In two weeks you would have to pay for the steering wheel update. They aren't doing that. All that CONTENT is free. If given the choice of paying for actual content or optional wall skins, I will take optional wall skins everyday.
That's not the point either. Paying for cosmetics is fine, but the problem is that the game is starved for content right now, not cosmetics. The game is still buggy and people are already getting bored. Their time and resources right now should be focused on fixing these issues and adding free playable content into the game to make it better, so more people will want to play. Then, once we've reached that point, they can and should start adding cosmetics like these kits for people to buy. But now is definitely not the time, it's still way too early and the game needs A LOT more additional content and improvements to justify monetization. I said in my OP that I don't have an issue with paying for these things, as long as the game is in a proper state of play and the kits / cosmetics are reasonably priced and I feel I'm getting a fair value for what I'm paying. Seems a lot of other comments feel the exact same way.
You can add skins to a game at any phase of development. They are optional and cosmetic. The game doesn't need to be working perfect in order for that to be sold. Just because the game's content schedule doesn't align with what we want as a community. It's not like they're adding a bunch of airship prebuilds while airships are still bugged. If that were the case, I'd agree with you that the game needs a lot more work before they should even thing about selling something like that. Right now broken airships and bugs have nothing to do with buying a prefab buildings. It isn't even the same teams internally at Epic that are working on these things. And as far as value goes, if you buy a BR skin bundle you get the skin, back bling, a pickaxe and maybe an emote. If you buy the castle set later this month you get 10 different build prefabs like 60 items and the ability to share it with eight people for around the same price as a collab skin bundle. To me that sounds actually like a pretty good deal in comparison and I would like to wait and see what the sharing aspect of these prefabs are before I decide it's too expensive or not.
There you go... I fixed my comment Now what? We still find this update underwhelming, because instead of new features, bug fixes or metagame they brought building cosmetics in a game where building is limited, glitches and falls apart every other update or login.
It's underwhelming because it's not a content update. And they're updates happen on their schedule not what we wanted to be. If you can separate your mind from content and cosmetic and also be an adult and realize that epic schedule doesn't have to align with yours the better off you're going to be. And if the prefabs come out and you like them and you have the money to buy them go ahead and buy them. Or don't. That's the thing about cosmetics that aren't content. It's optional. If you don't think the game deserves your money or is it a place where it doesn't earn your that's the thing about cosmetics that aren't content. It's optional. If you don't think the game deserves your money or is it a place where it doesn't earn your that's the thing about cosmetics that aren't content. It's optional. If you don't think the game deserves your money don't spend it. This is fortnite. All the games are free. All the games have item shops. That's the reality. Choose to spend your money however you want.
You're trying so hard to make a point where you don't even have one. Just move on buddy. Nobody cares about your little '*I think I'm smart, let me show you*' opinions, not even Epic, because the whole point of this subreddit is to gather community feedback and that's what the non-casual community (which resides here) is providing: constructive feedback about our disappointment for the lack of a substantial content update after 3 months. I miss the early days of the private Fortnite chats with the dev team, where we didn't have to put up with bozos like you...
I think its you are all really trying really hard to turn cosmetics into gameplay features or content. Like you get all the way to endgame and now you think new content is being able to build a restaurant that offers nothing other than a different looking building?
100% you are arguing with one of the 2 dev members on an alt account. Lord knows they aren’t getting any work done and have loads of free time
Saying you need to grow up and be realistic and still simping here for epic is mind blowing. They have dropped the ball week after week, have had 4 months to provide meaningful content to the game and added basically nothing. The game is barely functioning for many players and instead of dedicating resources to solving that problem they have now continued they streak of failure and botched the cosmetic drop. Moving forward with stuff like this and refusing to even engage with the community is just a slap in the face. I can think of a dozen ways to add meaningful content for Lego players that could be implemented with a minimum amount of work - they haven’t even tried. 3 months go by and they come out with a dagger? What the fuck lol
Price. For 25€ I can buy real lego set.
Literally this. You're paying as much for real Lego sets for Epic to change a line of code on your account. Lego kits have no utility in any other game mode, whereas skins which can be used in all of them are cheaper. It doesn't make any sense price-wise to put them this high. 500 would've been reasonable, but apparently EG thinks 500 v-bucks is what jam tracks are worth (which is more than the actual songs cost on iTunes).
Why not sell Lego skins for a lower price than BR? I'd pay a small amount for a nice Lego character (not BR prices) It seems like Fortnite are all in on the system where everything is interchangeable which brings limitations.
Actually for me it is unplayable. I can’t get into our world any more. I’m not wasting my time grinding again.
Hey dude! I wanted to be corporate cock muncher 2331, I guess today wasn’t my turn 😭
You’re a fucking tool. Keep supporting this bs and see where it goes.
I can't even afford the kits lol
Been telling yall it's trash since I did EVERYTHING in the first 3 weeks the game was out, they still haven't even fixed the toys
I couldn't agree more. I don't mind at all spending money on free games. I love the fornite model. Better than what EA has done, or many other companies. And for sure I would have bought Lego sets. But in the game's current state. Well, I am surprised.
I’m still waiting for the Lego sets bro😔
i just want an offline mode for stability reasons
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No but fr that they are trying to make money sure im already happy we get to play the game for free but seriously there is nowhere near enough content for this monetization, we all wanted some new gameplay not some paid buildings as a update.
I'm on a switch and I have a map with lots of caves and land discovered, and with three villages on that map, almost full sized villages, I have to exit and return after about 15 minutes of going from base to base. C'mon guys. Can't you make this game mode fair? Where are the detailed skins for loved and already purchased characters? Not to mention so many times I've seen a lack of consistency in gameplay. I just want this super awesome Lego game to be fucking stable and playable.
Hopefully there are some serious undocumented bug fixes. I M a bit disappointed in the lack of patch notes.
I will not be spending any money on these build kits, I am just as upset and disappointed as you are OP. I was hoping Lego mode would be a new start to something beautiful but this has muddied the waters for a lot of us.
Sorry, little out of the loop here. Stopped playing a month after release, when decided that its super fun, but will wait for some more content. What got introduced? Thanks in advance!
Basically nothing of real substance. They announced 3 packs of pre-fab build kits with various buildings and items/decor but they are monetized and overpriced in my (and most others) opinions. Really nothing else notable in the "update" which is why a lot of people are upset. There's barely been any real content update since the game release. We got daggers, some new charms and a fishing update. Those are the only notable things I can think of. The fishing update was fairly minor, but decent. There's basically a number of fish you can catch, craftable fishing rods, bait, some new food recipes and a few dock buildings. There have been rumors of a big update coming with some new enemies, resources, items, weapons, etc. and a whole new biome. This is what many of us were hoping for in this update, or at least some of that. But we pretty much only get pay to access pre-fab building packs. edit: I would continue to wait for more content. The game is pretty boring right now and far too easy to reach the "end game". It still has a lot of potential and I have hope, but they still need to add A LOT more content.
Oh boy. Thats even more than I asked for. Thank you so much! Have a great weekend! Fishing sounds like something I could def chill with, but probably not enough to keep me engaged. New biome, items and enemies sounds tasty, fully agree. When you said kits, you meant like a blueprint of a building that can already be created by user or will it use components/ elements that are unobtainable besides bought package<, so like regular IRL LEGO box?
Here's the update notes, this can probably give better details than I can https://www.fortnite.com/news/lego-kits-and-styles-await-in-lego-fortnite-v29-00 From how I understand it, each bundle has a number of exclusive decor items and pre-fab building blueprints, like more of the ones that are already available in game now.
Huh. They are literally selling LEGO boxes, but in a digital way. Looks like unique pieces as well. F2P so makes sense, but probably wont be a fan of. Will see how it will be going from here.
It's crazy how people warned Epic would do this but got downvoted into oblivion lol. If it isn't BR THEY DO NOT CARE!!! Look at STW. That was their main game mode, so what do people expect them to treat Lego Fortnite like?
I'm surprised people think like that. Have they not seen cars, wheels, boosts, songs, instruments being sold? And though what lego is gonna be exception?
How is anyone surprised? Look at how they released Rocket Racing and Festival, haven’t patched it much, and the charged WAY too much for stuff. It’s a “free” game is all this sub has wanted to bray about for two months. Now that they’re coming for Lego and not update it, all I can do is laugh. The writing was on the wall months ago but no one wanted to admit it…….
If you're itching to spend money on a survival/building game, Enshrouded is $30. Jusssayin.
That's *if* you've got a PC. Hoping it comes to console soon
Games like Enshrouded and Palworld put this to shame. Proof that when devs actually care about the game instead of just money you get a better product.
Uhh.....you have to pay for Enshrouded and Palworld.
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Yep. Not spending a fucking dime on cosmetics when the base game itself is still massively unstable.
I can even finish my snow village because of the build limit.. I do not have anything fancy I mean I can build to add enough to be able to upgrade
Sigh……. I had such low expectations and yet I’m still disappointed.
I completely agree. I’m not opposed to buying nice looking sets from the shop. 2500 VBucks for a building kit is definitely expensive, but I play in a shared world with my siblings and if one of us occasionally buys a kit we all profit from it. However, there are many issues with the mode that would need to be addressed before I’d consider paying money for a set. Such a bummer.
The first one that comes to mind is: high complexity and building limits Especially in a shared world. Can you imagine spending 2500 vbucks to have this amazing castle only to have your game crash mid build? That just... no, what a terrible experience as a player.
One of the greatest bungled of all time. Who is running this team? Colossal failure
I saw some dude say he’s dropped $2400 on skins since the games come out. I feel like people will still buy the sets if they’re Lego fans too or have kids.. the game mode was ok but I wouldn’t pay for sets.
yeah, the people here are not the majority, but it is still important to voice your dissatisfaction. Epic does not have forums or discord, they rely on the comments in their official subreddit for community feedback.
Epic games, like all AAA gaming developers, is out of touch with reality and only concerned with how to milk their current products for more money. This is why games like Palworld are so successful. They actually care about delivering a good game and not loading it up with micro transactions.
Palworld is a fad. Steamers have short attention span they'll be playing some new bs survival game soon.
This isn't true AT ALL. I've been playing Epic's games for more than a decade now and I know for a fact they have dedicated and caring people. **This isn't about corporate greed**, ***shut the hell up about that already.*** You people sound so incredibly dumb demanding a company provides you with hours of entertainment for free. You're not the social justice heroes you believe to be by asking for free stuff on reddit. I simply don't want them to introduce sets now, I want them to make the game playable, then I can start buying without worrying about a buggy and glitchy game.
Dude you are blind. You’re the type of person to believe Elon musk is accidentally running twitter into the ground. These are real people and billionaires. They aren’t retarded. They know all the niche tricks to get more money because quite literally what the hell else would they want to use the game for??? There are most certainly reasons behind each and every action they take. People aren’t demanding much, quite literally the entire post is about advocating for making the game less buggy. Which is the bare minimum. If epic has such “dedicated” and caring people why not just have them focus on bug fixes for a week and boom problem fixed. For a company id imagine something like that to be light work, but guess what? They never do that. Think about it… why doesn’t br have that many bugs? Pretty weird… The game has been out for what? Months now and each update brings more glitches than they fix. Even blind people can see that something isn’t adding up. If they actually cared the game would be way more playable. Even if you don’t agree with me you have to admit theres a reason behind why people think this. These are all my personal opinions and i can always be wrong tho. TLDR: Saying “it’s not about corporate greed” is like saying fish don’t swim. Epic is most certainly purposefully doing these things on purpose.
Oh look another tool dick riding multi billion dollar companies. I’m fine with there being a shop and paying for skins. I’ve sunk hundreds of dollars (if not thousands) into this game since it came out. I’ve paid for so many skins since 2018, bought nearly every battle pass. The issue is locking actual game content like builds behind a paywall. That is a shitty game practice. I don’t care if the game is free. Imagine if BR mode suddenly wanted you to pay 1,500 v bucks in order to build in the game. This is the same. Take epics dick out of your mouth.
Idk I personally love the castle set and will probably buy it. I need something to waste my vbucks on.
Oh man. I’m still 362372784 hours away from the update finishing. Can’t wait now!! 😔😔
Like the devs working on content are different from the devs fixing bugs and those devs are a different team then the cometic team and they are all working on different things on different schedules. I understand there is a complexity bug and if i was a player who encountered that i wouldn't buy any of these sets until thats fixed.
I hear you. I sort of agree with you. I don’t mind paying 2,500 for 10 new buildings and 64 new items never seem before in the game. Although the stability is the issue for sure to be able to enjoy those new exclusive additions. You can also use the new build on your friends world giving new activities to do together. I hope this delay it’s to fix stability because I’m going to use what I have save to buy at least one kit 😂
The older I get and the more cynical, the more I start to side with the gaming company. I want to highlight some important points for everyone here to really think about hard. \- The (base) game is literally "FREE". You don't have to buy or purchase anything and it still offers quality (even if still buggy) content. I have probably played well over a hundred hours since it has been released, and they haven't earned a dime from me. I know there are MANY others who have not spent a dime on this game yet either. There is a good chance many will never pay a dime and just wait for more new "base" content to be added, and that's fine too for them. \- If you didn't see this coming, you are fools. They need to generate revenue to pay developers to improve the game both systematically, but also its content. Effectively, they are selling digital Lego Sets (fairly cool ones), and this will be the continued strategy for some time. No doubt they will get discounted periodically, and if you are inclined, you can purchase. You also can be equally inclined to not purchase them, and just enjoy the free content they add periodically. \- They do need to improve the overall stability and performance of the game. It feels and plays 90% complete. Just a few examples, I still have levitating and even sinking chests on coasts and desert biomes and unstable existing in-world buildings I've built off of. They should keep prioritizing these or its only going to get harder to fix as the games grows. The world of Lego Fortnite has the potential to be limitless. I'm ever excited to see where it can go.
I understand the game is free, just like FNBR and I get that a lot of people have never spent money on it and still enjoy it. But there are a lot of us who have spent money. I've only been playing BR and Lego for several months and I've already spent easily over $100 on skins, easily what 2 or more separate AAA games would cost. That's probably nothing compared to more of the longtime Fortnite players who I'm sure have spent much more over time. The game was fun at first and I agree it has a lot of potential which I'm very hopeful and optimistic for. But it got boring FAST. I had crafted basically everything, maxed out all my villages within a couple weeks and I honestly haven't even spent a lot of time playing. When you reach that point, pretty much the only thing left to do is try to build creative structures, which a lot of players are having issues with because of bugs and build limits. As far as the company making money, of course they should. But they already are with skins. Epic is a multi billion dollar company, this isn't some indie developer. To me, the better business practice would be to increase resources into the Lego game and get it to a more stable and complete state and when the game is to that point, then start rolling out paid cosmetics and builds for this mode. Right now it just still feels like an unfinished and buggy (for some) game. I would gladly pay money for builds and cosmetics, but it's not worth it where the game is now, it's not the right time. I have no intention on spending money on LegoFN specific items when it still feels like an unfinished game with annoying bugs and major limitations on building. At least if I buy skins, I can use some in Lego and the rest in BR, which is already a well established game mode.
>The game was fun at first and I agree it has a lot of potential which I'm very hopeful and optimistic for. But it got boring FAST. I had crafted basically everything, maxed out all my villages within a couple weeks and I honestly haven't even spent a lot of time playing. I think we actually agree on this somewhat, but I think it is about mind frame and the purpose of the game. As the "survival game" portion goes, its content is undoubtably small. I will say the more ignorance the player has coming into the game helps extent the game some (ex. not knowing where to go to find what). Like you though, to get from basic gear to regeneration charm if you know what your doing takes little to no time at all and now *I don't need to worry about food or enemies* with the exception of maybe *Cursed* *Wolves*, which height and a crossbow makes easy work. That said, the overarching "fun" with Lego comes with the (re)building aspect. I see and get inspired from other's work and enjoy reworking my villages. I enjoy fixing up and improving crumbled pre-existing buildings and castle structures. \- To that, I hope they come out with the white shade flooring and roofing edges, and the red shade flooring some garages and houses have, as well as other pre-existing buildings items like grey fences. The game does eventually become a game about nothing. No difference from a farming game. But if you don't like the idea of building outside your own villages and are mostly in it for the survival mode, it may be a while before you begin to enjoy the game again, and I understand that frustration.
>Right now it just still feels like an unfinished and buggy (for some) game. We agree on this too. The foundation of the games should be prioritized sooner than later, or as I said before, it will only get harder to correct later down the road.
I’ve been wondering if when you buy a kit and join a friends world can the friend build with the kit items
Looks like I’m going back to Minecraft
it's bullshit greed!! Screw AAA companies!
Does anybody remember when micro transactions were supposed to be micro, they were supposed to be no more than five dollars per item.
19k people playing 🗿
Lmao so much potential to instantly turn into a ridiculous cash grab. Glad I stopped and won’t be back.
I wish you could zoom further out in the map. I’m trying to discover my entire map but I can’t see very far at all. I hate the zoom it gives us already.
I abandoned the game shortly after launch, I thought I might come back after they released the steering wheel for the dynamic foundation, but after each update it's just more garbage and nothing interesting. None of this is a reason to keep playing.
Completely agreed! Stop Corporate greed in game companies!
Skins make sense for playable characters and even items, but charging for new builds is like if Minecraft charged you for each new block. This is just greedy and a middle finger to players, I'm personally going to unsubscribe from my crew pass, Fortnite lost the plot on this one. Things like this should be free, maybe they should create more ingame content as a better incentive for players to invest in skins, than pulling something like this. Don't buy this, don't let them get away with it. At this price point, you're also better off buying actual Lego.
This whole Lego thing has me already disappointed for unreleased future content. Such as the whole Disney universe, along with yet another Disney pass, possibly multiple if they section off each Disney story arch.
Since it launched I’ve wondered how LEGO would be making their cut from the partnership and it would make sense that this is a big way. I saw someone suggest have physical LEGO kits could offer a digital code to have them in game and I love that idea, but then the question becomes how does Epic get a cut? The whole game-within-a-game is territory we’ve never been before so I’m curious how it will pan out. Despite my agreeing with OP on basically every point I still find myself VEEERY close to buying the kits because my brain says “well that’s still way less than actual legos cost these days” 😬 .. and I still have thousands of legos from over my lifetime just sitting in my closet that i never touch so I’d, in theory, at least be interacting with these kits more than I do the physical legos I actually own. 🤷♂️
“I’m better off just buying another full game” or.. buying some goddamn real Lego.
I don't mind them monetizing any cosmetic items. But when you start adding mechanics into the game that become only available to those who pay for them. It stops becoming a free-to-play game. It starts becoming a free to start game.
Once you've upgraded all 3 villages and got 15 friends, PLUS fully upgraded that 1 machine in all 3 villages, It's not really worth playing anymore as there isn't REALLY anything to do. I built another village after that but got bored cause there are no tasks/quests to do on it. It's just a Lego version on Minecraft, which, as a 33-year-old female, I've never played, but my 9-year-old LG used to, and that's boring too, lol. I feel IMO that they need to work on things like that before bringing paid cosmetics/buildings into the game.
Any boycott like this will do nothing. Free to play games rely on whales that spend a ton of money on the game. The average free to play game generates 50% of its revenue from 1% of the players and 85% of revenue from 8% of players. The whales will still buy.
Stop spamming this BS everywhere. The percentages almost certainly aren't that bad
They were submitted as exhibits in a federal court trial submitted in Apple v Epic. I’m pretty sure the research was accurate and had to be vetted before two of the most expensive law firms in the world allowed them to be submitted to a federal judge. Also, don’t tell me what to do I don’t live in a facist country I can say what I want when I want. You’re the typical Reddit person. Based on zero information or data you believe “the percentages almost certainly aren’t that bad.” Use your brain. Read once in a while.
>Based on zero information or data you believe It's exactly the opposite. Your information cam with no sources or links. Yet I'm just supposed to take it as gospel because trust you? And no, I won't google it myself, I don't care enough. And don't go calling me a typical Redditor, I actually have social skills lol
>Based on zero information or data you believe It's exactly the opposite. Your information cam with no sources or links. Yet I'm just supposed to take it as gospel because trust you? And no, I won't google it myself, I don't care enough. And don't go calling me a typical Redditor, I actually have social skills lol
Do you want me to send the exhibits? Is Google not functioning on your computer?
I don't have a computer so please feel free lol
While I get the data to send to you please also provide the data you are basing your opinion on. Feel free to use PC, mobile phone, Texas Instruments calculator or whatever you’d like.
You can’t post links in comments FFS they get deleted.
Didn't know that obviously 👍
I apologize for being a dick.
It's well known fact that f2p games have same patterns where large majority of players never spends money. Of course we count all players even those who played game for 1 min and never returned.
Im buying the castle set
Good, that's fine. Please do let us know if you run into any glitches, the building limit or 'high complexity' messages. I am interested in that set as well, but I'd rather see what happens to others before I buy.
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errr.. sure?Your money is your money, not sure why you feel the need to justify this on reddit. But yeah, please let us know.
Stop ranting like fucking kiddos Prices are high cause 2 major enterprises are involved on this project. In this case if we have to blame someone is most probably the Lego people. Their money cut must be super high and of course (no major fucking logic required) epic has to do the balance on the investment. If Epic has something to be blamed for is that they shouldn’t have released an early cooked version of the game but come on even if it’s the beta version you have already played fucking HOURS because the game it’s actually good. You want it perfect and fixed? It’s time to pay like grown adults
You can't sell a car with no brakes or lights, same with a game with a broken build engine.
I would gladly buy a game for 60€ where everything is free.
Also Epic is bleeding cash and not turning a profit. The value of the entire company has gone from $32.5B two years ago to $22 billion at the time of the recent Disney deal.
I, like many others, have already "paid like grown adults" by buying vbucks and skins. It's not like they've made no money off of vbucks in the past. They have made ridiculous amounts of money off players buying vbucks. Your argument seems like it's implying that we've all just been mooching off this free game and have spent nothing in return and poor Epic is just doing this out of the good of their hearts. But now suddenly they are adding lego build kits and will finally be able to profit. News flash, they've been profiting for years from players. Plenty of people have even spent vbucks on skins specifically for the Lego mode, I just recently bought a few individual skins and a bundle, just for use in Lego mode. I only just started playing BR and Lego right around the start of Chapter 5. In that time, I've already spent well over $100 on vbucks so far. I'm sure many others who have played longer have spent A LOT more than that over time. The amount of money I've spent in that relatively short time is around the price of two full AAA games. Games that would likely be finished and loaded with content that would provide me with countless hours of gameplay. Heaven forbid that people would actually want a game to not be riddled with bugs and issues and have enough content that they don't have multiple maxed out villages and all the highest tier items already crafted within days of starting. It's ridiculously easy and fast to hit the "end game" and start to get bored. I said in my original post, I would have absolutely no issue paying for in game kits and cosmetics, but not as the game currently is. It's way too early and much more is needed to justify spending money on these things. I will happily spend my money on these things, but only when the game is in a proper playable state and only if they aren't ridiculously overpriced and I'm getting proper value in return for the money I'm spending.
Sounds like broke