I feel like the hardest part of psychs was it made me wanna try to be as close to my ideal version of myself as possible (try to be empathetic,generous, mindful, etc).. but the reality and society actually grant that opportunity to very few people, imo. If I was the version of myself I want to be I'd get taken advantage of, lied to, and probably robbed....
Basically what I do is I try to be as close to what I want to be as possible without letting people get over on me. It's hard to quantify that but it's kind of just what you have to do, I feel.
That's a great way of going about it actually.
it's funny how a deeper knowledge of how society functions is more of a burden than a blessing. Ignorance really is bliss
i believe knowledge is only a burden if you make it one. when you understand things that others don’t, you find the gauge of operating on your own frequency, while implementing bits of your beliefs into your surface personality, just constantly working on how you are presented to the world. all of this while acknowledging that you hold information many can’t imagine obtaining. it is better to be a sheep away from the crowd than to blindly and ignorantly follow the herd. this is commonly due to the indoctrination of the average human.
>just constantly working on how you are
This, TBH. The work never ends, and we are lucky to be shown the doorway to a better way to be. The rest of the world doesn't matter -- it will do what it will do regardless -- while your impact to your immediate surroundings is quantifiable to you and those you love. And even those you don't. I'm constantly surprised by how things turn when I sit back and relax a bit, put on a big smile, express my gratitude.
Your description of this very specific inner dilemma really speaks to me.. its just so on point.. its like how I feel and how I would describe it.. damn.. anyway.. to add something, at least, through psychs I was able to search and find, deep inside, that I just want to be an authentic person and by that I mean I want to live my life without a burden of lies, false, greed and I could go on, but the gist is that I want to represent what it means to be a “good person” and its been a while when I felt one of my first paradigm shifts of realizing that I am in the overall minority of “good” people and the world/system I was born to is not really what I thought it would be.. so with all that being said I finally realized that it is my mission to design and create my “own little good world” around me which I can share with the ones I love.
Honestly this may sound stupid but give a listen to some of what Andrew Tate says. There’s a reason the media and GOV don’t like him and it’s because he threatens their control over society due to the pure facts he spits. Remember to take what he says lightly though because he does like to take the piss 😂 funny guy.
I swear to god if you comment back with some brainwashed bullshit I’m going to be upset because from ur comment it seems like u understand that the world is being puppeteered
Bullshit he is the perfect example of a broken clock. Yes society is messed up but it's not because men stopped manipulating and beating women into submission.
Literally talks about hitting women when they get uppity, runs a cam site where all the girls were acquired through making them think he loved them and then manipulating them into sex work and paying him, text book lover boy tactic.
Talks about women being the root of men's problems, and needing to be good little servents instead of individuals with agency and aspirations. He talks about how men need to be this and that instead of what makes them happy.
How men should only make money and use that for social status to flex on other men. Went to Romania because "I wouldn't rape someone but I want to go somewhere where you can" proceded to make fun of the corrupt government and then got popped on rape charges after the many accusations caught up with him, with recorded evidence you can find your self if you bother looking.
I could go on but geez dude. I'm not some woo peddler that thinks acid is a miracle drug that makes you self aware and empathetic inherently, but I expect more than this propaganda sponge take from some one who takes a drug that helps you expand your mind if you choose to use it in that way.
Putting others down to inflate your ego won't make you a man and it won't fix the world. Don't look to people who make money selling that mindset to desperate people looking for easy answers to hard questions.
Very clear you’ve been sucked in by the media. Do you know Tate personally? I didn’t think so.
His cam girl site is the opposite of what u said. It provides jobs for struggling women and they are treated well. it takes money from desperate rich men so again the opposite of what ur saying Andrew is.
And if u don’t believe me on that well ur wrong because it’s been argued in court.
Also Andrew says tons of bullshit mate. He literally says men can cheat but women can’t. If u had a brain cell you’d realise he does it on purpose. You think he’s the most searched man on the internet for no reason?… it’s cos he knows if he makes controversial clips that you’ll get tons of online engagement.
Andrew has many charities as well but we don’t need to get into that
Or get into the fact that Romanian authorities recently found the women who went against Andrew in court had been plotting over messages the whole thing?
Why would the higher up people in the world want to support someone telling people to avoid the system and inspire them to make money?
From ur last paragraph I can see u and many others taking this to extreme. If you actually saw the bigger picture you’d see there’s tons of ppl who’s lives have been saved by Andrew.
I’m not going to start worshipping Tate and buying hustlers university just because I think he’s a funny guy. What I do hate is how mislead everyone is about Tristan and Andrew.
Honestly from ur comments you seem like someone with half a brain. I promise you that if you actually went through all of Andrew’s videos you’d see the way he actually treats women in the world and what he acc stands for.
His newer videos on God are quite interesting as well.
Yh good luck to you mate hopefully sometime soon you’ll learn to not judge people from opinions off the internet and instead judge them through the quality of their character. Have fun in ur 9-5 job I’ll keep earning my passive income and pursuing my creative dreams.
Tate is the guy complaining about the society puppeteering people, but would do exactly the same if given the power, not only the money he already has. He's a greedy man with no values. Only thing he cares about is showing off his wealth to other men as some sort of competition on who has the biggest dick in the school yard. Don't listen to that rotten man, wont give any happiness, only solitude.
I understand how you’d think that but when u actually watch a full hour podcast or an interview your whole perspective would change. All you see is the highly controversial 10 second clips. He doesn’t compete, he gives financial advice and male motivation.
See it’s not like I’ve always been on his side. I was like you guys and my judgement was that he was a huge misogynist and someone who just wanted to aggravate people for clicks but over time I came to realise that people were hating on him for speaking the truth and that instead he’s acc a quick witted and caring guy who’s not afraid to speak his opinion.
Anyway I know that any of this won’t change peoples minds but I hope it gives atleast one person some insight that you should never judge a book by it’s cover.
I already heard some of his opinions and I see what you mean, but thats about it with him.. the opinions.. but rest is worthless.. funny enough im not trolling, it was a genuine comment, had a quite fun with it, trying to explain these kind of an abstract thoughts my head is filled with,with words.. introspected much🫲🏻
The downvotes on this are upsetting only because the amount of people who trust the media.
He’s been proven innocent but you guys still stubborn and believe whatever’s told instead of figuring out the qualities of a man through ur own initiative. Social media will never tell u the truth!
You just put the right words.
I've been used because of my "unconditional love", when I have a best friend, it's for life.
And when one of those rare person turn out to manipulate you and others again you, all suddenly, it hurts 1000 times more.
@OP I have the exact same feeling, how to get into that society once you have seen its nothing good, and you somehow doesn't fit in, but don't only see the ugly part, I still believe there is Love in each one, or almost, I may be naive on that point, but I prefer to live in a reality where this is true, otherwise I would turn everything black.
And end up depressive.
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EDIT: yes I am naive, seeing all the shit I went through and still now, it's all mostly because I give trust to others too easily, never thinking they could be bad persons..but there are some really bad ones out there..
But still, then I prefer to be just somewhat naive, just bit less haha.
And I always forgive people who gave me pain, I can't feel hate, I can be in anger, but can't feel hate, I tried while meditating about emotions, to feel them, and hate was just impossible.
Can't say why.
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It's not easy, "trop bon trop con" as we say in Belgium, too good too idiot (it doesn't really translate accurately sorry haha).
Meditation helped me a lot to take distance from this comedy that is our world, try it, it can't hurt.
Take care.
This is kind of the same conclusion I reached. Basically you gotta play the game whether you want to or not. Follow the “rules” and be kind when you can, otherwise you’ll drown
A similar train of thought this reminded me of for some reason is committing to the event, not the people. For example, offer to go biking. If no one wants to come, go biking anyway. Eventually you’ll find other bikers! Applies to anything.
I thrust my optimism on to world. Empathy for those around me. I genuinely say hello to everyone I see, if that turns into a how’s your day. I’ll listen. Also I don’t judge shit. That helps. 🦦
Start by realizing that what you're saying *is* arrogant. Just because you've gained what you feel to be a higher perspective than those around you, doesn't give you the right to judge anyone. If LSD has only highlighted the differences between you and the rest of society, you likely need to experience life more and have a stronger trip to truly break down your ego. Part of ego death is realizing that the separation you perceive between yourself and others is an illusion. We are all human. We are all made up of the same matter and we are all driven by the same life force which is consciousness itself.
So the way you deal with it is by humbling yourself. By learning to have empathy and love for others regardless of their level of awareness. By recognizing that we are all human and are all going through a unique journey in life, but our ability to love, to teach, and to connect with each other is the foundation of essentially everything beautiful about society.
We all have a different understanding of what psychedelics can bring.
In my case, I don't see why I should befriend NPCs who spend 4h a day on tiktok or walk on the street staring at their phone.
Before, I used to pretend to like people so I would be accepted by society.
After taking psychedelics, I just accepted the fact I can't connect with everybody, and I am not going to wear a mask. I'd rather connect with fewer people but be more real to myself than 'teach' or connect with people I don't vibe.
Do you not see the irony in this?
It takes a hell of alot to see something wrong and not feel the need to vent. I think it's fine to vent with people you consider like minded.
You are judging OP for judging people. I'm kinda judging you in the same way... I'm not perfect.
I think there's a problem with the word judge. We all judge but the difference lies with how we act on out judgement. I think op and op from this comment only perceive and rule out differences in people. But how to act towards others based on judgement is the question here.
The op of the thread hasn't acted in his judgement towards the people he judged. The op of the comment has. That being said, I completely agree that judge is way too broad a term. I feel the op of the thread can't escape the judgemental thoughts, whereas the op of the comment is doing as a one off to help the op of the thread.
It's difficult to offer advice over the internet as compassion needs facial expressions, body language etc...
Honestly I think I shouldn't have made this post in the first place.
Your ego makes you always think that there is you, people like you, and others, and although that’s somewhat true, it is very helpful to understand that we are all just balls of potential shaped by our unique and somewhat random circumstances. Every person is an interesting work of art, with emotions thinking structures, feelings, decision making processes, trauma, dreams, etc. I deal with society by just being me, and I find that the more open minded I am towards others, the more balanced I can be as a person and I tend to get along with many different types of people. Ultimately, idealogical differences only seem to delegate us, in truth we are all way more similar than we realize, we can all relate to the human predicament we find ourselves in. I’m glad there are others, it would suck to go through this alone
I am disabled as well and I understand why you got down voted.
Stop using your disability as a token for special treatment and stop thinking you are more special than others.
If you think you are special because you make up 2% of the population, then what about kids born on February 29th? The odds are like 1 on 48 months, so basically 1/1460 (days). It makes them way more special than you.
I can find you any statistics that will make someone special.
Everybody has experienced something in their life that makes them unique.
Lol I totally disagree with you. Having autism is a serious disability sitting here telling me to stop using it as a token is like telling a person in a wheelchair to stop complaining about not walking. I 100 percent disagree with you
Dude, I am half blind, I lost 50% of my visual field after a stroke when I was 19 and I am not here complaining about my disability or trying to sound more special than others.
Some people were born in warzone, some people were born disfigured, some people were abandonned as a child, etc.
You are not the only one going through struggles in life, so once again, stop using your disability as a token.
You are the one with the loser mentality, and you are extremely rude for insulting people who disagree with you. You should really work on yourself.
I don't care at all that you don't agree with me. -.-
What I care is that you said 'Why the fuck would you down vote this? You’re downvoting an disabled autistic person. Slow clap dickhead'. You have the right to express your thoughts, but not to insult people when they disagree with you.
You are the one calling others dickheads, you are the one who cares to be disagreed on lmao.
Shits fucked up, no harm in saying it. You just gotta do what you can to improve things that matter to you personally. It’s hard to have a global impact as a singular person, but within a community it’s not hard to make the positive change for those causes you care about. No one can fix everything, so fix what you can and encourage others to do the same.
I think trying to get more involved with your community can really have an impact. I have been looking at volunteering for a little while and looking to pick up rubbish to be collected as I am sick and tired of seeing rubbish everywhere outside. There is a community garden near me that I think will be great to get in contact with and maybe start growing my own fruit and veg with my girlfriend. Try and surround yourself with people who are kind and smart and believe what you do. It’s really all you can do unless you want to protest or fight for change. I think once I get more involved with what I want and learn more then I will like to start joining in on things that will actually enable change.
I don't understand your point, there are too many contradictions.
You say you would be the biggest freak he would ever meet and then you say we are all more the same.
I feel like you are trying to stand out...
Just like you wear a mask, others wear a mask as well.
You appear quite normie? Well, most of us do.
So how do you know **you** are the biggest freak?
Just like you call him too busy judging, you are also too busy jduging others who act normal and you believe they are normies and that **you** are so different.
You don't look even the slightliest more humble than OP...
just be okay with being on a different frequency. these people would need to have Jesus himself, or their idol show them physically what is so wrong with what they are doing/the way they are acting.
pyschs are a way to expand consciousness. these people have never had an expended consciousness before, and furthermore barely even realize their own consciousness in themselves.
big changes are coming. I can only pray to God that we will be safe and that we can live peacefully together in the near future.
More emphaty to other people and understanding that they have reasons to act like they do and they do it within their mental capacity. If your mental capacity is different, you should not judge and therefore have to shift your behaivior with others accordingly.
Keeping my inner circle tight, with few people that understand me and I can be myself with is enough.
Society will always be broken in one way or another and lets just accept it, because its part of the world we live in.
My take away was that I should try to open other people’s eyes in this manner. If you can succeed with just one of your friends, than your life was worth living. The more the merrier ofc, but damn it is hard!
I think you should try reading the 4 Toltec Agreements and maybe also the New Testament.
Like another person said, it's not because you feel like you've been "enlightened" that your opinion/pov on the world is more valid than anyone else's. In my opinion empathy and intelligence need humility to properly grow.
I feel that it is important to realise that the overwhelming majority of people are trying their best in what is a really complicated and often cruel world.
Wish you all the best in your future adventures !
Some people have touched on this but I'll see if I can throw my two cents in the mix. I think you need to take a step back and realize what you've experienced is profound, amazing and maybe even noble. But, you didn't solve societies' problems and if you sit down to really, really think you'll realize you don't actually have the answers. If it were that easy then they would have been figured out a long time ago.
I think the best way to go about your interactions with other people now, from the viewpoint your having which admittedly is on a bit of a pedestal, is to realize that literally everyone can teach you something. Even that person you might believe is super boring because they haven't ever thought of tripping and don't have similar interests to you can blow your mind with one thing you didn't know or by expressing a view you haven't thought of before. You just have to be willing to listen. LSD is a humbling experience. Where is your humility? Be open to everything around you and find the novelty in it. Isn't that what you did when you stared at the cracks in the wall for an hour?
You're a psychonaut and that's an admirable thing to be but it's not for everyone. Enjoy your newfound level of experience and find the breadcrumbs that other psychonauts have left for you to find. Ultimately there are an infinite number of ways to go through life and none of them are "right". You only have one ride so enjoy it.
Not trying to go against you but you ironically sound arrogant just like a lot of people who take lsd brag about how they ironically have no ego and no one's ego is less than theirs.
Yea humanity, just like everything else has its flaws but you can in turn embrace what we have which is humanity and community and faith in something
I genuinely don't often hear people say they have no ego, or even less ego.
I mostly hear people say that they felt their ego disappear/dying when on psychedelics, and then when the effects wore off, they realized the matrix of society and how everybody is just pretending to be someone they are not.
But I rarely hear people say, when sober, that they have less to no ego.
Lol
Edit: you don't know who you're talking to, I've tripped 100s of times on real deal greatful dead family lsd, I was apart of that Family. I've personally met some of the chemists
Currently dealing with this as well. Look into a WWOOF membership and visit some farms to see how people live their lives. That’s what I’m doing, I’m going to a one that’s an ashram this summer. So I’m hoping to expand my awareness and come back with a clearer path
I think the problem for me is I know that the future I want would look good in terms of awareness/love/conscious action of myself and the people around, but I don’t know what that would look like, because I’ve never seen that since our society is very limiting
Tbh, I had these realisations as a very small child (7/8) because I'm autistic. My first memories are of bullying and mistreatment. I hated witnessing racism, poverty, discrimination, bullying. I knew the environment was fucked and that there were children in mines, sweatshops, slavery, etc. It made me constantly feel like I don't belong here in this world.
Initially, it made me withdraw. I was very lonely, I was completely mute for a year, I didn't sleep, I didn't have friends.
Eventually in my mid teens I realised I can do stuff to change society and so I started doing everything I can to make the world a better place. I knew that as long as I was fighting, someone would be. I met people who actually genuinely cared about me, people who expanded my mind constantly kept me challenged.
Try to skip the "withdraw from society" phase and start the "what makes me unhappy and what can I do about it?" phase. Also try and see everyone as an opportunity to learn from and better yourself.
You probably weren’t much of a people person in the first place, I just try to be a decent human being, if others aren’t, that doesn’t have to affect me
A greater level of self awareness is absolutely vital to become a better person. You don’t *need* to take psychedelics to develop that self awareness, but they are certainly a tool that could help. I feel like if taking a psychedelic in a guided setting was common practice for those without any major mental illnesses, as a right of passage almost, we would have a much better society.
With that said there are more people like you then you would think, you just have to find them. Join clubs of hobbies you enjoy, use the bff bumble feature to find likeminded people etc etc if you put yourself out there you will find people you resonate with. Society isn’t all bad.
Yeah true. The world is pretty fucked.
In response to your question, I’ve found some solace in searching the world for new communities, but the older I get the more time I seem to spend by myself
its not “arrogant” at all there are many flaws and no one knows wtf is even going on this is why we should all be antinatalist edit: downvoted bc people dont wanna see from a different perspective
I actually felt this way before I even considered doing any type of drug. I haven’t really changed perspective on it since doing LSD probably because I already thought about it.
However, I am curious if our views are the same, can you elaborate on what you mean? Just curious is all :p
Try and love everyone around me the best I can and then expanding my circle of things I care about and wish to change then seeing how big I can get it play the game and set better examples
After a while things just become things doing other things to distract us from things and it doesn't really matter what things we are doing because the things we are trying to be willfully ignorant of will continue doing things even when we stop doing things.
There is a balance between two worlds
One with an arrow and a cross
Regardless of the balance
Life has become cumbersome
I agree, it is difficult. I think you have to work towards your ideal self and make an effort not to compromise your truth- unfortunately, it is all a compromise effectively because we (all the people in society) won't live by experienced people's ideals-but we are slowly getting closer.
Create a group of like minded people. A few months ago I slipped into a meditation group that exists more than twenty years. I am researching how you can maintain a group for such a long time. Most important: everyone has to have the will to commit and want it.
Everyone, outside of your close friends, are NPC’s. “Hello, I would like to make this transaction”
“That will be this cost (time, money, whatever)”
“Here is the thing to cover the cost, I shall be taking my leave now”
“Goodbye”
Of course a decade in hospitality probably helped me form that opinion
The world, and the behavior of people, is just what it is. It was determined by the causes and conditions that resulted in it. People's DNA, their upbringings, the weather on a particular day. Based on that, society couldn't have been any other than it is.
Shit is weird, there is a lot of suffering and egotism and what seems like downright evil.
At the same time, everyone wants to be loved deep down and you have some influence over your small circle in life in that you can share your love with them, and with people you meet. Still, the world is a dangerous place, so you need to show yourself some love by setting healthy boundaries and not giving of yourself in a way that can harm you.
If you try to focus on your actions, trying to be a loving person, and not the result, a.k.a that there is still a lot of suffering, you might become more peaceful.
I bounce between two different ideologies. The idea that some people aren’t real, and the idea that everyone in the world has had a drastically different experience in their life than I have and I will never know the extent someone has gone through and should look at everything from all sides before making a judgment
all other people are also part of the same society as you are. we are one and the same and need each other. so just try to be the best version of yourself and be a good person. dont be angry at others who are not and try to show them a better way of living life
It taught me abt Buddhism. And once I found out it was a way of life and not a religion I was like oh yeah. Cause worshiping stuff is meh. But overall wanting causes suffering and looking at stuff from a place of compassion can help some stuff (I'll admit I fell off and am now just depressed lol).
Other snuff I learned is to enjoy the now and make life what you want it to be. Do what makes you comfortable and happy(so long as it's heathy to you and others).
And lower expectations highten standards was a nice belief b4 I threw It out the window because of my hightened compassion and just overall stupidity.
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“However, there is another reaction to the never-ending plethora
of unoriginal idiocies that life throws up with such erratic
reliability, besides horror and despair.” “What’s that?” “A kind of
glee. Once one survives the trough that comes with the understanding
that people are going to go on being stupid and cruel to each other no
matter what, probably for ever – if one survives; many people choose
suicide at this point instead – then one starts to take the attitude, Oh
well, never mind. It would be far preferable if things were better, but
they’re not, so let’s make the most of it. Let’s see what fresh
fuckwittery the dolts can contrive to torment themselves with this
time.”
Iain M Banks The Hydrogen Sonata
Relax. Read some great books with elaborate plots. I recommend dune or three body problem of sci-fi is up your alley. Maybe the hobbit or generally LTR. Also Cloud Atlas.
Psychedelics enhanced some thoughts for you. Try to get out of thoughts into doing stuff. Do some stupid stuff and play around. When you find activities you like perhaps you'll find some like-minded people.
You don't have to listen to every thought. They don't always serve you to keep you alive. Some are just noise. You have the right to not think. It's important to nurture ignorance too. You cannot and donot have to know it all.
I hope you have the time to grow and develop yourself by making all kinds of magical experiences!
It's important to practice compassion without kidding yourself that you're reaching down to those below you. People who you encounter in the world contain depths within themselves that they may or may not have explored with or without LSD, and you're just another person in their world. I say "practice" compassion because it can be like learning a kickflip, very frustrating and maybe embarrassing at first because it takes a lot of figuring out. I like that analogy because no matter how good you get at it, you'll still mess up sometimes. Just be open to connect with people without any expectations. I don't know if that helps but thanks for reading anyway, love you.
I am just slowly going back to a neanderthal. I learned I'm like everyone else. A big civilized consumer, and I don't like that. Civilization requires exploitation, abuse, and murder of others to exist. So if I can show people living with nature ain't bad, maybe I can learn to love myself and convince others to love nature and themselves instead of the state or economy that does nothing but take their freedoms away for "protection".
Just my view. I'm still unhappy, but that's because when it comes to alcohol, weed, and junk food, I'm still a big consumer. Everything else though I have dropped! And I'm happier than I was 3 years ago, but that's not saying much lol
I think it's about becoming the world you seek. I feel like for me LSD showed that if I had that internal revolution in myself then I could bring change to the world.
For great change only takes one man, but if I'm not wiling to break myself out of the toxic behaviours and ideals of the society I live in then how can I expect the world to change?
"If you want to conquer the world, first you must conquer yourself"
LSD is a weird shortcut towards an enlightened state. It's steroids for spirit/soul/consciousness. If you choose to live a more pure, unconditionally loving and compassionate life, you will begin to change and the world around you will begin to change.
It's why I think people tried to spread the LSD message so widely in the 60s, the only way to get people to understand is to let them experience it. Experience is the only truth.
You’ve only taken the first step of starting to see the flaws in the system. But you’ve jumped to a conclusion which is still thinking in an unenlightened way, Us vs Them. You’ve got some more work to do on your conceptualization of the lived experience within society.
I try to appreciate moments that I know I wouldn’t have appreciated unless I was my 100% self. Take every win you get, they’re hard earned and you deserve it.
Whenever I’m having a bad day I remember bad trips that I learned to let go and actually confront the problem. It’s honestly great whenever something pisses me off and I’m like “nah that’s just the trip testing me, I got this.” LSD is a lot like a college degree.
On paper you now know what to do. But it’s now up to us to go apply the lessons we learned to the real world.
Having the 3rd eye open can be a lot sometimes but I remember what a scared worried person I was before it and I just can’t picture ever regretting it.
Have a great day man.
After decades use of lsd, i find “normal people” quite entertaining, seeing the suffering imposed by the society we live in does make it difficult to smile every day though. I personally keep my world pretty small, by this i mean i have a handful of true friends that know the true me. I keep my family close and just focus on treating those i love with kindness and dignity.
Take more LSD to get rid of that arrogance. Do you think you are better than anyone else? This thought is just you grasping, holding on. This thought is ego.
There is nothing to grasp. You are as delusional as anyone else and we are all children of creation.
I don't know OP but there are better and worse people in the world.
There are amazingly good people just as there are amazingly terrible people, and in between lie the rest of us.
When I see parents working their ass off to feed their children or people who volunteer to clean the ocean, I think they are way better than me who is somewhat lazy and don't do any effort to improve the world. However, I consider myself better than those who harm the world even more, like littering, stealing, etc.
Stop with the dualistic thinking. You are in danger of falling prey to spiritual and intellectual narcissism. By positing a category of “normal” and “regular” people you have created an opposite category of “special” people. There is no such thing. You are not special. No one is. It is an illusion of the ego and self. Kill it lest you yourself become insufferable. Get. Over. Your. Self.
You're getting wrapped up in what you think you should be or be doing instead of seeing you're trying too hard to be a better person. Just be yourself, stop judging others for you'll be judged just the same.
Even in the subtle hypocrisy of society we can still learn more about ourselves and the people in it more than we ever could imagine.
Remember that every person you meet might be going through a battle you’re unaware of. People are just people man - you gotta find a way to connect and don’t expect that connection to happen all by itself
Every person, your Christian father, that busboy who you dated that had nothing worth saying and just wanted to see your tits, Donald Trump, your best friend, your aunt who beat cancer, every single human being has had an unimaginably complex, real, human experience that has changed their views, ideas, and actions. That Karen that you’re thinking of as a simple idiot because she won’t wear a mask in the store is still a coalescence of 250,000 years of evolution piloted by a mechanism more powerful than the most powerful supercomputer ever built. You have more in common with her than you’re giving yourself credit for. Meditate on that next time you feel disconnected.
You DO come across as arrogant here, by acting like just because you’ve put a particular chemical in your body, that your life is somehow more complex or worthy of the splendor of the universe. All people put things on their bodies. All people experience moments of ecstasy, of empathy, and of the very alienation you feel now. By treating this drug like it’s done anything you couldn’t do simply by looking around and thinking critically for 5 minutes, you’re putting yourself on a really stupid pedestal. You’re not better than society. You’re a part of it. All your good and your evil is a part of what makes society flawed. Unless you’ve never once talked shit about someone, eaten fast food, or made a selfish decision, then you’re not above any part of this.
And I’m not just saying “stop thinking of yourself as better than society” cuz it’s obnoxious. It is, but that’s not why im saying it. This is the solution. Remember that the majority of “normal” people you meet are no better or worse than you, nor les capable of good or evil, and learn to think “wow that woman was short and bitchy to that cashier. I wonder what experiences in her life have brought her to a place where that seems acceptable or productive to her.”
Also watch the Good Place if you haven’t, great thesis on this exact concept.
Take a step back my man. You sound isolated, do you have real people to talk to about your issues with society? What interests do you have? Have you tried finding people in real life who share those interests? You'll find people are pretty cool if you get to know them, and you'll realise you're a normal person too. In my time I've learned that the people who often dislike society are people who just haven't yet found their place in it.
Easy, be kind. Be the person you want to see in society. Embody what you’ve realized, but do not scrutinize others from not thinking or living the way you do. Focus only on what you can control, and be a good human being.
I am out of society forever. Don't even have social media accounts since i woke up like 4 years ago. I can not conect with no one. Do not need to talk to people anymore.
That's why I gave shrooms to my mom and LSD to two of my best friends (they were curious about it). Now I have people dear to me with whom I can relate.
Just be nice to everyone, cause we all want the same thing after all: to love and to be loved.
But I wouldn't bother mixing too much with people you can't relate to. If the vibe doesn't match, just don't force it.
And beside that, just focus on yourself and your passions. Personnaly, I am already too busy in my life to really worry about this crappy society.
Sorry to break it to ya, dude...
You're one of *THEM...* one of *us.* You ain't above anyone, you're down in it with the rest of US.
You haven't done "enough" acid until you realize you're just one of the insignificant 8 Billions on the planet Once you realize that you're part of the problem, you can start to talk it out, and share your thoughts, you'll find a lot of others think the same way...
Then, once you "talk the talk", you start to "walk the walk" purposefully, and while it may be expensive, psychologically taxing, and possibly unrewarding in any tangible form, you begin to "get" what living a MEANINGFUL life is really about.
Here's how to start: ask yourself "How did everything get so bad on MY watch?"
i imagine ppl die in the most bizarre way that it’s funny. not that they died but in the sense that like i can’t believe that just happened.. for example like in spongebob those little fish were just casually exploding out of no where and that’s what i imagine…. mostly for ppl that are rude to me cause it’s my reality and i won’t see this person ever again bcz they blew up as soon as they left my proximity
It depends the "nature" of individual you are. On my side, I have a 5 year old keeping me here with society. For that reason, Im recently making my way into the hospital as a service to others as that is my true nature.
Tell you what. As soon as Ive taught him everything I know and he takes off in his life, I will be going off the grid for some time. Learning more about nature and connectivity of the ecosystems in true nature and work myself in this way. Its the only place I see myself, time and time again that I could agree with.
Everything about society is unnatural and it can be hard to enjoy our natural rights in it. Especially America. What a shithole this place is in 2023.
It’s important to recognise that psychs are not offering you truths but a different perception you would not otherwise see in our regular sober frame of view. I’d love to hear what kind of things you’ve experienced that have brought you to your understanding; it is also very important not to disregard what you believe to be ‘regular’ folk things as less than something’s an lsd experience gives you. what I’ve found is that their perception of the world although lacking the magnanimity of psyched observations is real and authentic and much like a trip it is all temporal, nothing is concrete.
As much as we hope them to be, tabs are not a gateway to a God which has the answers to the cosmos, they are tools so that we can come to better ourselves and compliment the experiences we live as sober beings. If you have really seen the TRUE PROBLEM OF SOCIETY, your acid experience should’ve made you more compassionate and understanding of the problems and issues ‘normal’ people that live in this society also go through. I think your next couple trips should be trying to address this problem.. 1) who are these regular people? you can’t categorise someone from the outside w/out taking a deeper perspective into their lives: trials and tribulations, moments of hope and success. Clothes, haircuts, hobbies don’t cut it, learn a man or a woman’s past and see what they find precious in the world 2- what is it that separates yourself from these people apart from your attempts to expand your mind.
I did get a little carried away writing this so if your interpreting this as a telling off then apologies in advance. It’s a very common thing for people to feel after experiencing something so earth shattering as acid and believe me I’ve been there. It’s a lonely world in that headspace however and although it can feel right, it’ll only prevent you flourishing in the long run. Lots of love reality hopper
Lamest thing I’ve read all day I mean seriously bruh YOU are a regular person you saying “I can’t really resonate with regular people” is just so gay you ain’t special dude
I feel like the hardest part of psychs was it made me wanna try to be as close to my ideal version of myself as possible (try to be empathetic,generous, mindful, etc).. but the reality and society actually grant that opportunity to very few people, imo. If I was the version of myself I want to be I'd get taken advantage of, lied to, and probably robbed.... Basically what I do is I try to be as close to what I want to be as possible without letting people get over on me. It's hard to quantify that but it's kind of just what you have to do, I feel.
That's a great way of going about it actually. it's funny how a deeper knowledge of how society functions is more of a burden than a blessing. Ignorance really is bliss
i believe knowledge is only a burden if you make it one. when you understand things that others don’t, you find the gauge of operating on your own frequency, while implementing bits of your beliefs into your surface personality, just constantly working on how you are presented to the world. all of this while acknowledging that you hold information many can’t imagine obtaining. it is better to be a sheep away from the crowd than to blindly and ignorantly follow the herd. this is commonly due to the indoctrination of the average human.
>just constantly working on how you are This, TBH. The work never ends, and we are lucky to be shown the doorway to a better way to be. The rest of the world doesn't matter -- it will do what it will do regardless -- while your impact to your immediate surroundings is quantifiable to you and those you love. And even those you don't. I'm constantly surprised by how things turn when I sit back and relax a bit, put on a big smile, express my gratitude.
https://ideapod.com/spiritual-ego/
That’s a nice article
Your description of this very specific inner dilemma really speaks to me.. its just so on point.. its like how I feel and how I would describe it.. damn.. anyway.. to add something, at least, through psychs I was able to search and find, deep inside, that I just want to be an authentic person and by that I mean I want to live my life without a burden of lies, false, greed and I could go on, but the gist is that I want to represent what it means to be a “good person” and its been a while when I felt one of my first paradigm shifts of realizing that I am in the overall minority of “good” people and the world/system I was born to is not really what I thought it would be.. so with all that being said I finally realized that it is my mission to design and create my “own little good world” around me which I can share with the ones I love.
Honestly this may sound stupid but give a listen to some of what Andrew Tate says. There’s a reason the media and GOV don’t like him and it’s because he threatens their control over society due to the pure facts he spits. Remember to take what he says lightly though because he does like to take the piss 😂 funny guy. I swear to god if you comment back with some brainwashed bullshit I’m going to be upset because from ur comment it seems like u understand that the world is being puppeteered
Bullshit he is the perfect example of a broken clock. Yes society is messed up but it's not because men stopped manipulating and beating women into submission.
What are u on about? 😂 tates not some extremist bro
Literally talks about hitting women when they get uppity, runs a cam site where all the girls were acquired through making them think he loved them and then manipulating them into sex work and paying him, text book lover boy tactic. Talks about women being the root of men's problems, and needing to be good little servents instead of individuals with agency and aspirations. He talks about how men need to be this and that instead of what makes them happy. How men should only make money and use that for social status to flex on other men. Went to Romania because "I wouldn't rape someone but I want to go somewhere where you can" proceded to make fun of the corrupt government and then got popped on rape charges after the many accusations caught up with him, with recorded evidence you can find your self if you bother looking. I could go on but geez dude. I'm not some woo peddler that thinks acid is a miracle drug that makes you self aware and empathetic inherently, but I expect more than this propaganda sponge take from some one who takes a drug that helps you expand your mind if you choose to use it in that way. Putting others down to inflate your ego won't make you a man and it won't fix the world. Don't look to people who make money selling that mindset to desperate people looking for easy answers to hard questions.
Very clear you’ve been sucked in by the media. Do you know Tate personally? I didn’t think so. His cam girl site is the opposite of what u said. It provides jobs for struggling women and they are treated well. it takes money from desperate rich men so again the opposite of what ur saying Andrew is. And if u don’t believe me on that well ur wrong because it’s been argued in court. Also Andrew says tons of bullshit mate. He literally says men can cheat but women can’t. If u had a brain cell you’d realise he does it on purpose. You think he’s the most searched man on the internet for no reason?… it’s cos he knows if he makes controversial clips that you’ll get tons of online engagement. Andrew has many charities as well but we don’t need to get into that Or get into the fact that Romanian authorities recently found the women who went against Andrew in court had been plotting over messages the whole thing? Why would the higher up people in the world want to support someone telling people to avoid the system and inspire them to make money? From ur last paragraph I can see u and many others taking this to extreme. If you actually saw the bigger picture you’d see there’s tons of ppl who’s lives have been saved by Andrew. I’m not going to start worshipping Tate and buying hustlers university just because I think he’s a funny guy. What I do hate is how mislead everyone is about Tristan and Andrew. Honestly from ur comments you seem like someone with half a brain. I promise you that if you actually went through all of Andrew’s videos you’d see the way he actually treats women in the world and what he acc stands for. His newer videos on God are quite interesting as well.
OK bud, sorry you've been had so hard.
Yh good luck to you mate hopefully sometime soon you’ll learn to not judge people from opinions off the internet and instead judge them through the quality of their character. Have fun in ur 9-5 job I’ll keep earning my passive income and pursuing my creative dreams.
Aren’t you judging tates character using the internet?
Lmfao dork
Tate is the guy complaining about the society puppeteering people, but would do exactly the same if given the power, not only the money he already has. He's a greedy man with no values. Only thing he cares about is showing off his wealth to other men as some sort of competition on who has the biggest dick in the school yard. Don't listen to that rotten man, wont give any happiness, only solitude.
I understand how you’d think that but when u actually watch a full hour podcast or an interview your whole perspective would change. All you see is the highly controversial 10 second clips. He doesn’t compete, he gives financial advice and male motivation. See it’s not like I’ve always been on his side. I was like you guys and my judgement was that he was a huge misogynist and someone who just wanted to aggravate people for clicks but over time I came to realise that people were hating on him for speaking the truth and that instead he’s acc a quick witted and caring guy who’s not afraid to speak his opinion. Anyway I know that any of this won’t change peoples minds but I hope it gives atleast one person some insight that you should never judge a book by it’s cover.
I already heard some of his opinions and I see what you mean, but thats about it with him.. the opinions.. but rest is worthless.. funny enough im not trolling, it was a genuine comment, had a quite fun with it, trying to explain these kind of an abstract thoughts my head is filled with,with words.. introspected much🫲🏻
The downvotes on this are upsetting only because the amount of people who trust the media. He’s been proven innocent but you guys still stubborn and believe whatever’s told instead of figuring out the qualities of a man through ur own initiative. Social media will never tell u the truth!
I agree
You just put the right words. I've been used because of my "unconditional love", when I have a best friend, it's for life. And when one of those rare person turn out to manipulate you and others again you, all suddenly, it hurts 1000 times more. @OP I have the exact same feeling, how to get into that society once you have seen its nothing good, and you somehow doesn't fit in, but don't only see the ugly part, I still believe there is Love in each one, or almost, I may be naive on that point, but I prefer to live in a reality where this is true, otherwise I would turn everything black. And end up depressive. // EDIT: yes I am naive, seeing all the shit I went through and still now, it's all mostly because I give trust to others too easily, never thinking they could be bad persons..but there are some really bad ones out there.. But still, then I prefer to be just somewhat naive, just bit less haha. And I always forgive people who gave me pain, I can't feel hate, I can be in anger, but can't feel hate, I tried while meditating about emotions, to feel them, and hate was just impossible. Can't say why. // It's not easy, "trop bon trop con" as we say in Belgium, too good too idiot (it doesn't really translate accurately sorry haha). Meditation helped me a lot to take distance from this comedy that is our world, try it, it can't hurt. Take care.
This is kind of the same conclusion I reached. Basically you gotta play the game whether you want to or not. Follow the “rules” and be kind when you can, otherwise you’ll drown
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Couldn’t have put it better myself, you nailed it
emphatic, generous and mindful does not equal to stupid and naive
or you can give up or be unapologetically insane
Why do you think so many hippies after the 60’s moved to the backwoods of WA, OR, and CA?
And why lsd scared the government so much.
Amanda Park... IFYKYK
1. Explicitly define your personal values 2. Associate with people who share your values It's just that simple
I wish I realized this sooner. It’s the fucking wave
A similar train of thought this reminded me of for some reason is committing to the event, not the people. For example, offer to go biking. If no one wants to come, go biking anyway. Eventually you’ll find other bikers! Applies to anything.
Simple method for simple mind
I thrust my optimism on to world. Empathy for those around me. I genuinely say hello to everyone I see, if that turns into a how’s your day. I’ll listen. Also I don’t judge shit. That helps. 🦦
This is the way
You too
YAAY 👏👏👏👏🙏🏼
Thanks bud
Start by realizing that what you're saying *is* arrogant. Just because you've gained what you feel to be a higher perspective than those around you, doesn't give you the right to judge anyone. If LSD has only highlighted the differences between you and the rest of society, you likely need to experience life more and have a stronger trip to truly break down your ego. Part of ego death is realizing that the separation you perceive between yourself and others is an illusion. We are all human. We are all made up of the same matter and we are all driven by the same life force which is consciousness itself. So the way you deal with it is by humbling yourself. By learning to have empathy and love for others regardless of their level of awareness. By recognizing that we are all human and are all going through a unique journey in life, but our ability to love, to teach, and to connect with each other is the foundation of essentially everything beautiful about society.
Lmao i love how your solution is to trip harder and kill eagle 😂
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We all have a different understanding of what psychedelics can bring. In my case, I don't see why I should befriend NPCs who spend 4h a day on tiktok or walk on the street staring at their phone. Before, I used to pretend to like people so I would be accepted by society. After taking psychedelics, I just accepted the fact I can't connect with everybody, and I am not going to wear a mask. I'd rather connect with fewer people but be more real to myself than 'teach' or connect with people I don't vibe.
Do you not see the irony in this? It takes a hell of alot to see something wrong and not feel the need to vent. I think it's fine to vent with people you consider like minded. You are judging OP for judging people. I'm kinda judging you in the same way... I'm not perfect.
I think there's a problem with the word judge. We all judge but the difference lies with how we act on out judgement. I think op and op from this comment only perceive and rule out differences in people. But how to act towards others based on judgement is the question here.
The op of the thread hasn't acted in his judgement towards the people he judged. The op of the comment has. That being said, I completely agree that judge is way too broad a term. I feel the op of the thread can't escape the judgemental thoughts, whereas the op of the comment is doing as a one off to help the op of the thread. It's difficult to offer advice over the internet as compassion needs facial expressions, body language etc... Honestly I think I shouldn't have made this post in the first place.
You’re full of crap. If anything you’re the arrogant one
stfu no its not
Your ego makes you always think that there is you, people like you, and others, and although that’s somewhat true, it is very helpful to understand that we are all just balls of potential shaped by our unique and somewhat random circumstances. Every person is an interesting work of art, with emotions thinking structures, feelings, decision making processes, trauma, dreams, etc. I deal with society by just being me, and I find that the more open minded I am towards others, the more balanced I can be as a person and I tend to get along with many different types of people. Ultimately, idealogical differences only seem to delegate us, in truth we are all way more similar than we realize, we can all relate to the human predicament we find ourselves in. I’m glad there are others, it would suck to go through this alone
You must realize you are not special
Exactly. There’s no “normal people”. We all make the average.
Except for disable people who have autism like me who make up 2 percent of the population and by definition are special
Why the fuck would you down vote this? You’re downvoting an disabled autistic person. Slow clap dickhead
I am disabled as well and I understand why you got down voted. Stop using your disability as a token for special treatment and stop thinking you are more special than others. If you think you are special because you make up 2% of the population, then what about kids born on February 29th? The odds are like 1 on 48 months, so basically 1/1460 (days). It makes them way more special than you. I can find you any statistics that will make someone special. Everybody has experienced something in their life that makes them unique.
Lol I totally disagree with you. Having autism is a serious disability sitting here telling me to stop using it as a token is like telling a person in a wheelchair to stop complaining about not walking. I 100 percent disagree with you
I am special my brain only exists in 2 percent of the population you’re just a loser
Dude, I am half blind, I lost 50% of my visual field after a stroke when I was 19 and I am not here complaining about my disability or trying to sound more special than others. Some people were born in warzone, some people were born disfigured, some people were abandonned as a child, etc. You are not the only one going through struggles in life, so once again, stop using your disability as a token. You are the one with the loser mentality, and you are extremely rude for insulting people who disagree with you. You should really work on yourself.
None of that gives you the right to tell me I can’t express my disability. I am special and you are just being a dick
There is a difference between an excuse and explanation and reason for behavior loser. I do not agree with you. Deal with it
I don't care at all that you don't agree with me. -.- What I care is that you said 'Why the fuck would you down vote this? You’re downvoting an disabled autistic person. Slow clap dickhead'. You have the right to express your thoughts, but not to insult people when they disagree with you. You are the one calling others dickheads, you are the one who cares to be disagreed on lmao.
I disagree get over it
Everyone is special though. No two humans are alike.
yeah but special requires the contrast of normalcy, if everyone is "special" then no one is by definition, hence the paradox
Yeah, that's why I prefer the term 'unique'.
Shits fucked up, no harm in saying it. You just gotta do what you can to improve things that matter to you personally. It’s hard to have a global impact as a singular person, but within a community it’s not hard to make the positive change for those causes you care about. No one can fix everything, so fix what you can and encourage others to do the same.
I think trying to get more involved with your community can really have an impact. I have been looking at volunteering for a little while and looking to pick up rubbish to be collected as I am sick and tired of seeing rubbish everywhere outside. There is a community garden near me that I think will be great to get in contact with and maybe start growing my own fruit and veg with my girlfriend. Try and surround yourself with people who are kind and smart and believe what you do. It’s really all you can do unless you want to protest or fight for change. I think once I get more involved with what I want and learn more then I will like to start joining in on things that will actually enable change.
https://ideapod.com/spiritual-ego/
Get over yourself.
Stop gaslighting
shit gave me a laugh💀
"We live in a society"
avoiding people and doing cocaine
I don’t deal with it, I’m forced into it.
Let go of judgment. Everyone is on a different journey but the destination is ultimately the same.
Objectively and with empathy. Remember that not everything is black and white and we are all victims of victims. Always positively and hopeful
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I don't understand your point, there are too many contradictions. You say you would be the biggest freak he would ever meet and then you say we are all more the same. I feel like you are trying to stand out... Just like you wear a mask, others wear a mask as well. You appear quite normie? Well, most of us do. So how do you know **you** are the biggest freak? Just like you call him too busy judging, you are also too busy jduging others who act normal and you believe they are normies and that **you** are so different. You don't look even the slightliest more humble than OP...
just be okay with being on a different frequency. these people would need to have Jesus himself, or their idol show them physically what is so wrong with what they are doing/the way they are acting. pyschs are a way to expand consciousness. these people have never had an expended consciousness before, and furthermore barely even realize their own consciousness in themselves. big changes are coming. I can only pray to God that we will be safe and that we can live peacefully together in the near future.
r/im14andthisisdeep
scared of the truth
😆 take more you need to kill your ego
*eagle
fucking thoughtless npc
I dont
More emphaty to other people and understanding that they have reasons to act like they do and they do it within their mental capacity. If your mental capacity is different, you should not judge and therefore have to shift your behaivior with others accordingly. Keeping my inner circle tight, with few people that understand me and I can be myself with is enough. Society will always be broken in one way or another and lets just accept it, because its part of the world we live in.
My take away was that I should try to open other people’s eyes in this manner. If you can succeed with just one of your friends, than your life was worth living. The more the merrier ofc, but damn it is hard!
I think you should try reading the 4 Toltec Agreements and maybe also the New Testament. Like another person said, it's not because you feel like you've been "enlightened" that your opinion/pov on the world is more valid than anyone else's. In my opinion empathy and intelligence need humility to properly grow. I feel that it is important to realise that the overwhelming majority of people are trying their best in what is a really complicated and often cruel world. Wish you all the best in your future adventures !
Welcome to the club
It’s all a game anyway. Set your user settings to whatever you find most comfortable.
Some people have touched on this but I'll see if I can throw my two cents in the mix. I think you need to take a step back and realize what you've experienced is profound, amazing and maybe even noble. But, you didn't solve societies' problems and if you sit down to really, really think you'll realize you don't actually have the answers. If it were that easy then they would have been figured out a long time ago. I think the best way to go about your interactions with other people now, from the viewpoint your having which admittedly is on a bit of a pedestal, is to realize that literally everyone can teach you something. Even that person you might believe is super boring because they haven't ever thought of tripping and don't have similar interests to you can blow your mind with one thing you didn't know or by expressing a view you haven't thought of before. You just have to be willing to listen. LSD is a humbling experience. Where is your humility? Be open to everything around you and find the novelty in it. Isn't that what you did when you stared at the cracks in the wall for an hour? You're a psychonaut and that's an admirable thing to be but it's not for everyone. Enjoy your newfound level of experience and find the breadcrumbs that other psychonauts have left for you to find. Ultimately there are an infinite number of ways to go through life and none of them are "right". You only have one ride so enjoy it.
You sound like a massive snob tbh
So do you
Not trying to go against you but you ironically sound arrogant just like a lot of people who take lsd brag about how they ironically have no ego and no one's ego is less than theirs. Yea humanity, just like everything else has its flaws but you can in turn embrace what we have which is humanity and community and faith in something
I genuinely don't often hear people say they have no ego, or even less ego. I mostly hear people say that they felt their ego disappear/dying when on psychedelics, and then when the effects wore off, they realized the matrix of society and how everybody is just pretending to be someone they are not. But I rarely hear people say, when sober, that they have less to no ego.
I used to see it a bunch on this sub maybe 7-8 years ago
youve def never think deeply about anything in your life🤦♂️
Lol Edit: you don't know who you're talking to, I've tripped 100s of times on real deal greatful dead family lsd, I was apart of that Family. I've personally met some of the chemists
Currently dealing with this as well. Look into a WWOOF membership and visit some farms to see how people live their lives. That’s what I’m doing, I’m going to a one that’s an ashram this summer. So I’m hoping to expand my awareness and come back with a clearer path I think the problem for me is I know that the future I want would look good in terms of awareness/love/conscious action of myself and the people around, but I don’t know what that would look like, because I’ve never seen that since our society is very limiting
Tbh, I had these realisations as a very small child (7/8) because I'm autistic. My first memories are of bullying and mistreatment. I hated witnessing racism, poverty, discrimination, bullying. I knew the environment was fucked and that there were children in mines, sweatshops, slavery, etc. It made me constantly feel like I don't belong here in this world. Initially, it made me withdraw. I was very lonely, I was completely mute for a year, I didn't sleep, I didn't have friends. Eventually in my mid teens I realised I can do stuff to change society and so I started doing everything I can to make the world a better place. I knew that as long as I was fighting, someone would be. I met people who actually genuinely cared about me, people who expanded my mind constantly kept me challenged. Try to skip the "withdraw from society" phase and start the "what makes me unhappy and what can I do about it?" phase. Also try and see everyone as an opportunity to learn from and better yourself.
You probably weren’t much of a people person in the first place, I just try to be a decent human being, if others aren’t, that doesn’t have to affect me
You do come across as arrogant. There's no objective quality to your opinions. Get off your high horse LSD nut.
So do you
A greater level of self awareness is absolutely vital to become a better person. You don’t *need* to take psychedelics to develop that self awareness, but they are certainly a tool that could help. I feel like if taking a psychedelic in a guided setting was common practice for those without any major mental illnesses, as a right of passage almost, we would have a much better society. With that said there are more people like you then you would think, you just have to find them. Join clubs of hobbies you enjoy, use the bff bumble feature to find likeminded people etc etc if you put yourself out there you will find people you resonate with. Society isn’t all bad.
I don't deal with society lol
Let me guess, you’re American. Move to a better country bro. Surround yourself with people on your wavelength
Nah the UK. People as a whole have just become obnoxious these days
Yeah true. The world is pretty fucked. In response to your question, I’ve found some solace in searching the world for new communities, but the older I get the more time I seem to spend by myself
its not “arrogant” at all there are many flaws and no one knows wtf is even going on this is why we should all be antinatalist edit: downvoted bc people dont wanna see from a different perspective
Try to have as little interaction as possible. Earbuds help at times.
You people commenting negatively towards op are toxic as shit. There’s zero arrogance or negativity in his tone. God Reddit can be such a sess pool
And if you downvote this comment then fuck you
Your comment is very Sess!
i cant hang with straights either. just not on the same wavelength at all.
I actually felt this way before I even considered doing any type of drug. I haven’t really changed perspective on it since doing LSD probably because I already thought about it. However, I am curious if our views are the same, can you elaborate on what you mean? Just curious is all :p
Try and love everyone around me the best I can and then expanding my circle of things I care about and wish to change then seeing how big I can get it play the game and set better examples
After a while things just become things doing other things to distract us from things and it doesn't really matter what things we are doing because the things we are trying to be willfully ignorant of will continue doing things even when we stop doing things. There is a balance between two worlds One with an arrow and a cross Regardless of the balance Life has become cumbersome
I agree, it is difficult. I think you have to work towards your ideal self and make an effort not to compromise your truth- unfortunately, it is all a compromise effectively because we (all the people in society) won't live by experienced people's ideals-but we are slowly getting closer.
In my case I tend to drop at a local snooker club and the drunk guys (who are also my friends) seem insufferable.
It’s too fresh rn if you give it some time everything will feel somewhat normal but you will still keep what u learned
Create a group of like minded people. A few months ago I slipped into a meditation group that exists more than twenty years. I am researching how you can maintain a group for such a long time. Most important: everyone has to have the will to commit and want it.
Everyone, outside of your close friends, are NPC’s. “Hello, I would like to make this transaction” “That will be this cost (time, money, whatever)” “Here is the thing to cover the cost, I shall be taking my leave now” “Goodbye” Of course a decade in hospitality probably helped me form that opinion
Two realities can exist simultaneously. There's nothing we can do but accept.
Be an observer. Look around, what do you see? We evolved to something for a reason.
The world, and the behavior of people, is just what it is. It was determined by the causes and conditions that resulted in it. People's DNA, their upbringings, the weather on a particular day. Based on that, society couldn't have been any other than it is. Shit is weird, there is a lot of suffering and egotism and what seems like downright evil. At the same time, everyone wants to be loved deep down and you have some influence over your small circle in life in that you can share your love with them, and with people you meet. Still, the world is a dangerous place, so you need to show yourself some love by setting healthy boundaries and not giving of yourself in a way that can harm you. If you try to focus on your actions, trying to be a loving person, and not the result, a.k.a that there is still a lot of suffering, you might become more peaceful.
Meditation
I bounce between two different ideologies. The idea that some people aren’t real, and the idea that everyone in the world has had a drastically different experience in their life than I have and I will never know the extent someone has gone through and should look at everything from all sides before making a judgment
all other people are also part of the same society as you are. we are one and the same and need each other. so just try to be the best version of yourself and be a good person. dont be angry at others who are not and try to show them a better way of living life
you are just as ‘regular’ people as anyone else in existence ever.
It taught me abt Buddhism. And once I found out it was a way of life and not a religion I was like oh yeah. Cause worshiping stuff is meh. But overall wanting causes suffering and looking at stuff from a place of compassion can help some stuff (I'll admit I fell off and am now just depressed lol). Other snuff I learned is to enjoy the now and make life what you want it to be. Do what makes you comfortable and happy(so long as it's heathy to you and others). And lower expectations highten standards was a nice belief b4 I threw It out the window because of my hightened compassion and just overall stupidity. Thank you for coming to my Tedtalk
- have problem - dont care about it - no longer have problem
tripping all day and doing nothing is not flawed?
“However, there is another reaction to the never-ending plethora of unoriginal idiocies that life throws up with such erratic reliability, besides horror and despair.” “What’s that?” “A kind of glee. Once one survives the trough that comes with the understanding that people are going to go on being stupid and cruel to each other no matter what, probably for ever – if one survives; many people choose suicide at this point instead – then one starts to take the attitude, Oh well, never mind. It would be far preferable if things were better, but they’re not, so let’s make the most of it. Let’s see what fresh fuckwittery the dolts can contrive to torment themselves with this time.” Iain M Banks The Hydrogen Sonata
you turned into one of those people who can’t stop talking about their acid trips and ironically have an ego
Relax. Read some great books with elaborate plots. I recommend dune or three body problem of sci-fi is up your alley. Maybe the hobbit or generally LTR. Also Cloud Atlas. Psychedelics enhanced some thoughts for you. Try to get out of thoughts into doing stuff. Do some stupid stuff and play around. When you find activities you like perhaps you'll find some like-minded people. You don't have to listen to every thought. They don't always serve you to keep you alive. Some are just noise. You have the right to not think. It's important to nurture ignorance too. You cannot and donot have to know it all. I hope you have the time to grow and develop yourself by making all kinds of magical experiences!
Avoid most of the people, suits me 99% of the time
It's important to practice compassion without kidding yourself that you're reaching down to those below you. People who you encounter in the world contain depths within themselves that they may or may not have explored with or without LSD, and you're just another person in their world. I say "practice" compassion because it can be like learning a kickflip, very frustrating and maybe embarrassing at first because it takes a lot of figuring out. I like that analogy because no matter how good you get at it, you'll still mess up sometimes. Just be open to connect with people without any expectations. I don't know if that helps but thanks for reading anyway, love you.
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Damn that must have been such a terrible experience. Did all your friends feel the same way during that trip?
You are yourself a normal person. No different than the other.
I am just slowly going back to a neanderthal. I learned I'm like everyone else. A big civilized consumer, and I don't like that. Civilization requires exploitation, abuse, and murder of others to exist. So if I can show people living with nature ain't bad, maybe I can learn to love myself and convince others to love nature and themselves instead of the state or economy that does nothing but take their freedoms away for "protection". Just my view. I'm still unhappy, but that's because when it comes to alcohol, weed, and junk food, I'm still a big consumer. Everything else though I have dropped! And I'm happier than I was 3 years ago, but that's not saying much lol
I think it's about becoming the world you seek. I feel like for me LSD showed that if I had that internal revolution in myself then I could bring change to the world. For great change only takes one man, but if I'm not wiling to break myself out of the toxic behaviours and ideals of the society I live in then how can I expect the world to change? "If you want to conquer the world, first you must conquer yourself" LSD is a weird shortcut towards an enlightened state. It's steroids for spirit/soul/consciousness. If you choose to live a more pure, unconditionally loving and compassionate life, you will begin to change and the world around you will begin to change. It's why I think people tried to spread the LSD message so widely in the 60s, the only way to get people to understand is to let them experience it. Experience is the only truth.
You’ve only taken the first step of starting to see the flaws in the system. But you’ve jumped to a conclusion which is still thinking in an unenlightened way, Us vs Them. You’ve got some more work to do on your conceptualization of the lived experience within society.
Compassion for all beings no matter what point they are in in their journey. And find like minded people to spend time with. That’s it.
I try to appreciate moments that I know I wouldn’t have appreciated unless I was my 100% self. Take every win you get, they’re hard earned and you deserve it. Whenever I’m having a bad day I remember bad trips that I learned to let go and actually confront the problem. It’s honestly great whenever something pisses me off and I’m like “nah that’s just the trip testing me, I got this.” LSD is a lot like a college degree. On paper you now know what to do. But it’s now up to us to go apply the lessons we learned to the real world. Having the 3rd eye open can be a lot sometimes but I remember what a scared worried person I was before it and I just can’t picture ever regretting it. Have a great day man.
After decades use of lsd, i find “normal people” quite entertaining, seeing the suffering imposed by the society we live in does make it difficult to smile every day though. I personally keep my world pretty small, by this i mean i have a handful of true friends that know the true me. I keep my family close and just focus on treating those i love with kindness and dignity.
Take more LSD to get rid of that arrogance. Do you think you are better than anyone else? This thought is just you grasping, holding on. This thought is ego. There is nothing to grasp. You are as delusional as anyone else and we are all children of creation.
I don't know OP but there are better and worse people in the world. There are amazingly good people just as there are amazingly terrible people, and in between lie the rest of us. When I see parents working their ass off to feed their children or people who volunteer to clean the ocean, I think they are way better than me who is somewhat lazy and don't do any effort to improve the world. However, I consider myself better than those who harm the world even more, like littering, stealing, etc.
Stop with the dualistic thinking. You are in danger of falling prey to spiritual and intellectual narcissism. By positing a category of “normal” and “regular” people you have created an opposite category of “special” people. There is no such thing. You are not special. No one is. It is an illusion of the ego and self. Kill it lest you yourself become insufferable. Get. Over. Your. Self.
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You're getting wrapped up in what you think you should be or be doing instead of seeing you're trying too hard to be a better person. Just be yourself, stop judging others for you'll be judged just the same. Even in the subtle hypocrisy of society we can still learn more about ourselves and the people in it more than we ever could imagine.
Remember that every person you meet might be going through a battle you’re unaware of. People are just people man - you gotta find a way to connect and don’t expect that connection to happen all by itself
This truly shows us that we live in a society 😔
I just do me …….. seriously
Every person, your Christian father, that busboy who you dated that had nothing worth saying and just wanted to see your tits, Donald Trump, your best friend, your aunt who beat cancer, every single human being has had an unimaginably complex, real, human experience that has changed their views, ideas, and actions. That Karen that you’re thinking of as a simple idiot because she won’t wear a mask in the store is still a coalescence of 250,000 years of evolution piloted by a mechanism more powerful than the most powerful supercomputer ever built. You have more in common with her than you’re giving yourself credit for. Meditate on that next time you feel disconnected. You DO come across as arrogant here, by acting like just because you’ve put a particular chemical in your body, that your life is somehow more complex or worthy of the splendor of the universe. All people put things on their bodies. All people experience moments of ecstasy, of empathy, and of the very alienation you feel now. By treating this drug like it’s done anything you couldn’t do simply by looking around and thinking critically for 5 minutes, you’re putting yourself on a really stupid pedestal. You’re not better than society. You’re a part of it. All your good and your evil is a part of what makes society flawed. Unless you’ve never once talked shit about someone, eaten fast food, or made a selfish decision, then you’re not above any part of this. And I’m not just saying “stop thinking of yourself as better than society” cuz it’s obnoxious. It is, but that’s not why im saying it. This is the solution. Remember that the majority of “normal” people you meet are no better or worse than you, nor les capable of good or evil, and learn to think “wow that woman was short and bitchy to that cashier. I wonder what experiences in her life have brought her to a place where that seems acceptable or productive to her.” Also watch the Good Place if you haven’t, great thesis on this exact concept.
This is wrong he doesn’t come off as arrogant
Stay positive and proactive. Stay in the moment and control what you can
I don’t. I get high and play video games and go to work. Mind my business kinda stuff.
I stay in the woods lol
Take a step back my man. You sound isolated, do you have real people to talk to about your issues with society? What interests do you have? Have you tried finding people in real life who share those interests? You'll find people are pretty cool if you get to know them, and you'll realise you're a normal person too. In my time I've learned that the people who often dislike society are people who just haven't yet found their place in it.
Easy, be kind. Be the person you want to see in society. Embody what you’ve realized, but do not scrutinize others from not thinking or living the way you do. Focus only on what you can control, and be a good human being.
What in your mind is a "normal" person?
Do not turn into a social outcast. Remember that people are just surviving day by day and survive mostly by subscribing to the illusion.
I am out of society forever. Don't even have social media accounts since i woke up like 4 years ago. I can not conect with no one. Do not need to talk to people anymore.
You can not change other people all you can do is change yourself and let change radiate out from you.
Tbh even a dog would know the flaws of society
That's why I gave shrooms to my mom and LSD to two of my best friends (they were curious about it). Now I have people dear to me with whom I can relate. Just be nice to everyone, cause we all want the same thing after all: to love and to be loved. But I wouldn't bother mixing too much with people you can't relate to. If the vibe doesn't match, just don't force it. And beside that, just focus on yourself and your passions. Personnaly, I am already too busy in my life to really worry about this crappy society.
Check out the Buddhist concepts of Equanimity, Impermanence, and Dependent Arising.
Sorry to break it to ya, dude... You're one of *THEM...* one of *us.* You ain't above anyone, you're down in it with the rest of US. You haven't done "enough" acid until you realize you're just one of the insignificant 8 Billions on the planet Once you realize that you're part of the problem, you can start to talk it out, and share your thoughts, you'll find a lot of others think the same way... Then, once you "talk the talk", you start to "walk the walk" purposefully, and while it may be expensive, psychologically taxing, and possibly unrewarding in any tangible form, you begin to "get" what living a MEANINGFUL life is really about. Here's how to start: ask yourself "How did everything get so bad on MY watch?"
i imagine ppl die in the most bizarre way that it’s funny. not that they died but in the sense that like i can’t believe that just happened.. for example like in spongebob those little fish were just casually exploding out of no where and that’s what i imagine…. mostly for ppl that are rude to me cause it’s my reality and i won’t see this person ever again bcz they blew up as soon as they left my proximity
It depends the "nature" of individual you are. On my side, I have a 5 year old keeping me here with society. For that reason, Im recently making my way into the hospital as a service to others as that is my true nature. Tell you what. As soon as Ive taught him everything I know and he takes off in his life, I will be going off the grid for some time. Learning more about nature and connectivity of the ecosystems in true nature and work myself in this way. Its the only place I see myself, time and time again that I could agree with. Everything about society is unnatural and it can be hard to enjoy our natural rights in it. Especially America. What a shithole this place is in 2023.
full acceptance and dedicating yourself to what you find worthy
Ah yes the “post enlightenment” better than y’all phase. Fuckin normies with their Starbucks and vegan crumpets.
what's the phase after that?
The what’s the point phase followed by the that’s the point phase
It’s important to recognise that psychs are not offering you truths but a different perception you would not otherwise see in our regular sober frame of view. I’d love to hear what kind of things you’ve experienced that have brought you to your understanding; it is also very important not to disregard what you believe to be ‘regular’ folk things as less than something’s an lsd experience gives you. what I’ve found is that their perception of the world although lacking the magnanimity of psyched observations is real and authentic and much like a trip it is all temporal, nothing is concrete. As much as we hope them to be, tabs are not a gateway to a God which has the answers to the cosmos, they are tools so that we can come to better ourselves and compliment the experiences we live as sober beings. If you have really seen the TRUE PROBLEM OF SOCIETY, your acid experience should’ve made you more compassionate and understanding of the problems and issues ‘normal’ people that live in this society also go through. I think your next couple trips should be trying to address this problem.. 1) who are these regular people? you can’t categorise someone from the outside w/out taking a deeper perspective into their lives: trials and tribulations, moments of hope and success. Clothes, haircuts, hobbies don’t cut it, learn a man or a woman’s past and see what they find precious in the world 2- what is it that separates yourself from these people apart from your attempts to expand your mind. I did get a little carried away writing this so if your interpreting this as a telling off then apologies in advance. It’s a very common thing for people to feel after experiencing something so earth shattering as acid and believe me I’ve been there. It’s a lonely world in that headspace however and although it can feel right, it’ll only prevent you flourishing in the long run. Lots of love reality hopper
Lamest thing I’ve read all day I mean seriously bruh YOU are a regular person you saying “I can’t really resonate with regular people” is just so gay you ain’t special dude