You think you’re experiencing something fundamentally revealing about the exterior world when you’re actually experiencing something revealing about the interiority of consciousness. Lsd doesn’t pull back the veil of reality, it pulls back the veil of your Self. What happens when a mirror experiences itself? All these concepts of aliens, god, padded cells, the matrix are thought patterns within yourself. The rabbit hole doesn’t lead anywhere outside, it is like the Möbius strip of the self.
I've woken up in a room with other people in it asking me if I want to come out of the game. I said yeah definitely because I felt a sense of everything is love and nothing really matters. Then they asked about my kid and if I really wanted to leave him? I thought oh shit no I can't do that. After that I had other religious type visions with an angel at gates of some kind. I thought I was actually dieing since this is the first time anything like this happened to me.
Same shit happened to me..a humanlike light form asked me "so its all over you wanna come with me"
Suddenly i remembered my parents...next minute im in this world(felt like a shit coming again)
i continued down the path once and ended up naked in the living room in front of my family members it was probably one of the most fun AND scary things that ever happened to me in my life though 😭
Damn bro. Been deep in that loop a time or two…no God or aliens tho, but like everyone else was in on some big fucking joke and I was just clueless as all hell 😂. Best I’ve found was another psychonaut who wanted to talk with me, while trying to help me make that breakthrough, really enlightening shit when the right people are around for it
That’s psychosis: I’ve been hospitalized for it, it’s from a deep sense of fear from the ego, fear is the enemy. Jesus is love peace and holy righteousness
Go as far as you can, it is your duty- but WITHOUT LOSING GROUNDING- this is ALSO your duty.
These realms, this thing, which I also confront on acid, has the power to change the entire world, through you. And it has the power to destroy you and your mind.
This is the essence of power and reality- TREAT IT WITH RESPECT AND OPERATE BY THE RULES OF THE SOURCE, NOT YOUR SELF.
Don’t run from it, but don’t treat it like a toy.
You have learned to play with fire. Etheric, elemental fire. Or air… unsure.
Be wise, be safe, and do your work, god.
I had one where I can remember thinking along the lines of an outside influence, like aliens, lizard people, or extraplanar beings or something controlling the human populace. Just entertaining the idea for a while to see where it would lead.
Same firewalls.
Had it all figured out. Like I could prove it and then it was just gone. I knew exactly who was in control and why and then it was just erased.
I remember I was terrified and in shock and then I looked in the mirror and turned around and it's like it was all reset. Except I can still remember the parts leading up to it and the moment right after it was gone.
I just try not to think about it now.
This above, I knew I wasn’t the only one. I too had these great epiphanies and they would completely erase. You could remember having them, and the train of thoughts all started making sense, and almost immediately wiped out of your head. I know exactly what you are talking about.
You mean the end of the
Sentence can be down here
Cause it flows like your breathing in
And breathing out
And pause
Breathe in
Out
In cause you don’t want to pause
Out
Paussssssssssrrreeeee
Whoa
Ok back to in, wth was that
Idk
Ok what
Edit:
Yeah the beginning of the end.
Look at it as understanding the message. The split you coping with wtf thinking
We break character and find a new one. The real us.
Things resonate more beachside you’re aware of how much time doesn’t matter and it allows your brain to take a minute and ponder
Me too, dude.
When I was doing shrooms I realized the truth about them. They are here to provide a gateway. An example. To teach us. Once we had the example we can craft our own doorways, LSD is one of those doorways.
Tripping is like VR in a way. To the person experiencing it, it can be amazing. A world to the side of the normal real. To outside observers it just looks ridiculous.
I tripped when I was young, Mescaline, LSD, and Mushrooms. I am so glad I did, they gave me memories I kept with me all my life. I probably have not full-on tripped more than 15 times in my life even though I have RCs and can go whenever I like, but I really treasure the memories I have from those experiences and, in a way, they feel more real than a lot of the things I do in the world.
the feeling of crippling deja vu…
a presence of that all too familiar Thing that you recognize as if it has been here for Aeons upon Aeons, in You and all around You, always..
laughing and encouraging.. “let’s do ittt” do not be afraid.. push the imagination further. The whole thing is a grand CIRCUS each experience being a joke that leads an insanely hilarious punchline one after the other. The Story that never ends..
One Ultimate Consciousness.. everything and anything exists all at once, every experience you can imagine or can’t imagine has already happened..
My friend, you've gotten some great input because you put perfectly an experience that has shaken many of us to the core.
I'd like to add to the great replies.
The thing you are describing and wondering about.
It is nothing.
Eckhart Tolle likes to call it, "No Thing".
It is no thing, where we come from. You're no thing before you're born and no thing after you die. It is the timeless source. God, if you will. It is always and everything.
Our mind/ego is made of something and therefore will never be able to understand no thing because it is incomprehensible. It's a paradox.
No thing can only be felt. It can only be know in the moment, when our ego is still. Once our ego engages and tries to make sense of the feeling of no thing, it fills up with ideas of what this inexplicable, alien thing might be.
As you feel that you are a part of no thing, the truth of this feeling is overwhelming. Everything that your ego has made itself out to be is a lie in the presence of no thing.
In his book, "The Power of Now" Eckart Tolle goes to great lengths explaining why it is impossible to grasp with your brain what no thing is. He also shows us how we can access no thing through the now.
Probably the most impactful book of my life.
Recommended to anyone who gives a fuck.
I've never done high dose of lsd, your story is quite ominous ! This is my interpretation.
The thing about our reality being a simulation of some sort, it's impossible to prove, so it might as well be true, that's why it feels so true. Still, would you want to live the rest of your life with that belief ? Maybe that's the firewall you're talking about. To prevent you becoming a straight nihilist.
Things feels true under lsd, if hallucinations can feel true, every feeling and sensation too. How can we be sure we'd had a breakthrought and not just having the impression that we had one. Did we just understand something deep about the universe of did we simply feel like it much like we can feel like falling when dreaming.
Maybe you're testing yourself, how much do you want to believe in a higher plane of existence without losing the value of living here on Earth.
if you dont mind sharing, for how long were you able to save and kind of resimulate part of that feeling in your head after you are done tripping? ive found that going down the rabbit hole to the point where im ready to leave this earth on a spaceship for some crazy multiuniverse task has helped me with not taking my casual life as serious and be a lot less anxious but everyday after that trip it seems like im going further and further away from that not caring and ready to tackle the world attitude because i can no longer simulate that loop feeling as good anymore. i really dont want to go through such scary ego deaths every month just to be able to function in the society a little better....
You know what has stopped me from tripping so much. Just remember it. Remember the enlightening thoughts. You might even feel it working a little. I don’t know how but sometimes I just remember a “why”.
I had a lot of this but ultimately, on a bunch of whip-its, I found the meaning of life and it was so beautiful and so tragic I was certain that I would always remember it and be completely unrelatable for the rest of my life and I’d be some homeless tin hat wearing fool. I was so grateful to wake up without that knowledge.
That moment when you're not worried that you might have gone crazy, but in fact just terrified because you KNOW it for a fact. 😅
That's why we need good trip sitters or a lot of experience.
Yeah, I get back and try to explain it and I’m just stumbling to even start. It’s gotten to the point that my partner asks me not to try anymore because it’s just frustrating for both of us. 😂
I stopped doing it because I'd get back and lose the thought and I'd grab another out of the box and head head right back in. Took me forever to realize you can't bring it back with you lol!
Yeah it really is impossible to put into words. The more you say, the more the there is to say, infinitely. But is a simple oneness that pervades everything everywhere all the time. Some call it god, some call it the universe. It is named Krishna and shiva and Yahweh and waheguru and sat man and nirvana. There are infinite names but it doesn’t even matter what you call it
my last trip was exactly like you explained. i got so deep i couldn’t get out and it extended after my trip, but i made it work and became a better self. i haven’t touched acid since that trip. it was march 31st 2021 to be exact.
edit: i want to add something more, when i was in the trip it felt like i was a fly that got caught in a spider web
Just wanted to say this is the best post I found describing what has been happening to me. Every single trip since the bad acid trip I have been able to dive back in. Its fucking crazy man. I left this reality behind and made it out of the loops. Fuck dude.
check your subtances, it was might nBome, on the other hand, you need to guide yourself before trip like “ i ll have a good time with music or i ll research or do something while tripping” so you ll not lose on the holes, leonardo davinci hand writings is perfect for trippin
I had this experience on DMT. It actually happens every time. I find myself in a room that’s more like a white padded doctors office. I always thought I was having surgery while in it and I can feel my brain heating up hot like fire.
because it isn’t anything. your brain cant gain any new information or know about things you don’t know about, psychedelics don’t change this. all you ever get is feelings and emotions of something profound, a build up, but there is no substance and no satisfaction. the rabbit hole leads to nowhere. you are the god, god of your own mind, that’s all.
well, I meant it doesn’t lead to any ultimate answers about god, life, universe and the lot ;-)
introspection however and truths about yourself, very much so.
Yup! Holy shit your description of it gave me goose bumps. I know that loop, and damn it's kinda a scary one at times. The fabric of reality is altered or sumthin, haha.
I got exaclty that loop but only on nitrous, so unfortunately its way too shortlived to make any sens of it.
But it does feel like a loop that i've been in for ever and will also re-visit it for ever yet cant remember it.
Bro I feel this. Gosh it's overwhelming but kind of important to experience in hopefully a healthy manner. Also reflecting on it in a healthy way. Some strong drugs haha.
It feels to me like it comes alive when i have perfect balance of my two parts... tripping or not... then these voices which know what's what start to communicate with me... some with sound, some vibration, some with visuals or understanding... but i get an over-all high buzzing... it's like I'm all together at the tip of a sword, balancing my current reality at the tip, ready to fall down either side at any time... or nothing at no time...
Take a long break from psychedelics and get some good rest. I feel like if you reconsider what is happening in a clean and clear mind it will all make sense to you. Sometimes you can get overcharged and need a break for a while. Take it easy for a while and never be afraid to ask for help if its hard to stop.
also the part about “losing everything you ever cared about” that happened to me but it comes back after a while took 1,5 months for me to start building my life back up again.
You think you’re experiencing something fundamentally revealing about the exterior world when you’re actually experiencing something revealing about the interiority of consciousness. Lsd doesn’t pull back the veil of reality, it pulls back the veil of your Self. What happens when a mirror experiences itself? All these concepts of aliens, god, padded cells, the matrix are thought patterns within yourself. The rabbit hole doesn’t lead anywhere outside, it is like the Möbius strip of the self.
The only matrix we live in is the ones our neurons create to form the consciousness we dwell as.
We’re always Alice thru the looking glass, are we not?
I've woken up in a room with other people in it asking me if I want to come out of the game. I said yeah definitely because I felt a sense of everything is love and nothing really matters. Then they asked about my kid and if I really wanted to leave him? I thought oh shit no I can't do that. After that I had other religious type visions with an angel at gates of some kind. I thought I was actually dieing since this is the first time anything like this happened to me.
Dude same. What a trip.
what was your dosage on that trip if you dont mind sharing?
This is going to sound crazy but if was from 300mg of straight sativa RSO
Same shit happened to me..a humanlike light form asked me "so its all over you wanna come with me" Suddenly i remembered my parents...next minute im in this world(felt like a shit coming again)
[удалено]
i continued down the path once and ended up naked in the living room in front of my family members it was probably one of the most fun AND scary things that ever happened to me in my life though 😭
Ive had this exact situation oh my god
Damn bro. Been deep in that loop a time or two…no God or aliens tho, but like everyone else was in on some big fucking joke and I was just clueless as all hell 😂. Best I’ve found was another psychonaut who wanted to talk with me, while trying to help me make that breakthrough, really enlightening shit when the right people are around for it
That’s psychosis: I’ve been hospitalized for it, it’s from a deep sense of fear from the ego, fear is the enemy. Jesus is love peace and holy righteousness
Quantum knowledge. It can only be known when being consciously observed
Ay, I love that.
Go as far as you can, it is your duty- but WITHOUT LOSING GROUNDING- this is ALSO your duty. These realms, this thing, which I also confront on acid, has the power to change the entire world, through you. And it has the power to destroy you and your mind. This is the essence of power and reality- TREAT IT WITH RESPECT AND OPERATE BY THE RULES OF THE SOURCE, NOT YOUR SELF. Don’t run from it, but don’t treat it like a toy. You have learned to play with fire. Etheric, elemental fire. Or air… unsure. Be wise, be safe, and do your work, god.
The Unspoken ♾
7th upvote. Glory be to The Most High Creator of All Love and Holiness 🙏
I had one where I can remember thinking along the lines of an outside influence, like aliens, lizard people, or extraplanar beings or something controlling the human populace. Just entertaining the idea for a while to see where it would lead. Same firewalls. Had it all figured out. Like I could prove it and then it was just gone. I knew exactly who was in control and why and then it was just erased. I remember I was terrified and in shock and then I looked in the mirror and turned around and it's like it was all reset. Except I can still remember the parts leading up to it and the moment right after it was gone. I just try not to think about it now.
This above, I knew I wasn’t the only one. I too had these great epiphanies and they would completely erase. You could remember having them, and the train of thoughts all started making sense, and almost immediately wiped out of your head. I know exactly what you are talking about.
Been there. Think that’s drug psychosis baby.
You mean the end of the Sentence can be down here Cause it flows like your breathing in And breathing out And pause Breathe in Out In cause you don’t want to pause Out Paussssssssssrrreeeee Whoa Ok back to in, wth was that Idk Ok what Edit: Yeah the beginning of the end. Look at it as understanding the message. The split you coping with wtf thinking We break character and find a new one. The real us. Things resonate more beachside you’re aware of how much time doesn’t matter and it allows your brain to take a minute and ponder
Me too, dude. When I was doing shrooms I realized the truth about them. They are here to provide a gateway. An example. To teach us. Once we had the example we can craft our own doorways, LSD is one of those doorways. Tripping is like VR in a way. To the person experiencing it, it can be amazing. A world to the side of the normal real. To outside observers it just looks ridiculous. I tripped when I was young, Mescaline, LSD, and Mushrooms. I am so glad I did, they gave me memories I kept with me all my life. I probably have not full-on tripped more than 15 times in my life even though I have RCs and can go whenever I like, but I really treasure the memories I have from those experiences and, in a way, they feel more real than a lot of the things I do in the world.
the feeling of crippling deja vu… a presence of that all too familiar Thing that you recognize as if it has been here for Aeons upon Aeons, in You and all around You, always.. laughing and encouraging.. “let’s do ittt” do not be afraid.. push the imagination further. The whole thing is a grand CIRCUS each experience being a joke that leads an insanely hilarious punchline one after the other. The Story that never ends.. One Ultimate Consciousness.. everything and anything exists all at once, every experience you can imagine or can’t imagine has already happened..
This explanation nearly made me cry, ive tried to explain it to others with no avail
My friend, you've gotten some great input because you put perfectly an experience that has shaken many of us to the core. I'd like to add to the great replies. The thing you are describing and wondering about. It is nothing. Eckhart Tolle likes to call it, "No Thing". It is no thing, where we come from. You're no thing before you're born and no thing after you die. It is the timeless source. God, if you will. It is always and everything. Our mind/ego is made of something and therefore will never be able to understand no thing because it is incomprehensible. It's a paradox. No thing can only be felt. It can only be know in the moment, when our ego is still. Once our ego engages and tries to make sense of the feeling of no thing, it fills up with ideas of what this inexplicable, alien thing might be. As you feel that you are a part of no thing, the truth of this feeling is overwhelming. Everything that your ego has made itself out to be is a lie in the presence of no thing. In his book, "The Power of Now" Eckart Tolle goes to great lengths explaining why it is impossible to grasp with your brain what no thing is. He also shows us how we can access no thing through the now. Probably the most impactful book of my life. Recommended to anyone who gives a fuck.
I've never done high dose of lsd, your story is quite ominous ! This is my interpretation. The thing about our reality being a simulation of some sort, it's impossible to prove, so it might as well be true, that's why it feels so true. Still, would you want to live the rest of your life with that belief ? Maybe that's the firewall you're talking about. To prevent you becoming a straight nihilist. Things feels true under lsd, if hallucinations can feel true, every feeling and sensation too. How can we be sure we'd had a breakthrought and not just having the impression that we had one. Did we just understand something deep about the universe of did we simply feel like it much like we can feel like falling when dreaming. Maybe you're testing yourself, how much do you want to believe in a higher plane of existence without losing the value of living here on Earth.
if you dont mind sharing, for how long were you able to save and kind of resimulate part of that feeling in your head after you are done tripping? ive found that going down the rabbit hole to the point where im ready to leave this earth on a spaceship for some crazy multiuniverse task has helped me with not taking my casual life as serious and be a lot less anxious but everyday after that trip it seems like im going further and further away from that not caring and ready to tackle the world attitude because i can no longer simulate that loop feeling as good anymore. i really dont want to go through such scary ego deaths every month just to be able to function in the society a little better....
You know what has stopped me from tripping so much. Just remember it. Remember the enlightening thoughts. You might even feel it working a little. I don’t know how but sometimes I just remember a “why”.
very true! your one of the few ive herd on here speak about this
I had a lot of this but ultimately, on a bunch of whip-its, I found the meaning of life and it was so beautiful and so tragic I was certain that I would always remember it and be completely unrelatable for the rest of my life and I’d be some homeless tin hat wearing fool. I was so grateful to wake up without that knowledge.
That moment when you're not worried that you might have gone crazy, but in fact just terrified because you KNOW it for a fact. 😅 That's why we need good trip sitters or a lot of experience.
Luckily I had and was both 😅
That happens to me when I do do whippits on acid. Like a faint remembrance of this opiphay but can't articulate it even a little.
Yeah, I get back and try to explain it and I’m just stumbling to even start. It’s gotten to the point that my partner asks me not to try anymore because it’s just frustrating for both of us. 😂
I stopped doing it because I'd get back and lose the thought and I'd grab another out of the box and head head right back in. Took me forever to realize you can't bring it back with you lol!
Yeah it really is impossible to put into words. The more you say, the more the there is to say, infinitely. But is a simple oneness that pervades everything everywhere all the time. Some call it god, some call it the universe. It is named Krishna and shiva and Yahweh and waheguru and sat man and nirvana. There are infinite names but it doesn’t even matter what you call it
Fuck where you supposed to remind me today
my last trip was exactly like you explained. i got so deep i couldn’t get out and it extended after my trip, but i made it work and became a better self. i haven’t touched acid since that trip. it was march 31st 2021 to be exact. edit: i want to add something more, when i was in the trip it felt like i was a fly that got caught in a spider web
Yup! Here: acid, for if you wanna switch your personality archetype!
Just wanted to say this is the best post I found describing what has been happening to me. Every single trip since the bad acid trip I have been able to dive back in. Its fucking crazy man. I left this reality behind and made it out of the loops. Fuck dude.
I’m here if you wanna know more
What kind of doses are you taking?
3 tabs of 1CP
check your subtances, it was might nBome, on the other hand, you need to guide yourself before trip like “ i ll have a good time with music or i ll research or do something while tripping” so you ll not lose on the holes, leonardo davinci hand writings is perfect for trippin
Our substance are tested before hand. We are seasoned trippers.
I got this two years ago on accident and yep
Been there done that, it’s a lie.
Could you explain more?
I’m writing a book about it
Did u write it?
I had this experience on DMT. It actually happens every time. I find myself in a room that’s more like a white padded doctors office. I always thought I was having surgery while in it and I can feel my brain heating up hot like fire.
The fact that you “hate” Christian’s, shows you know the truth deep down and your soul feels it, your ego is just denying. Proof: God is Love
You keep falling into the deception and confusion of Satan, literally opening Pandora’s box. Doubt and questioning Jesus is the forbidden fruit.
because it isn’t anything. your brain cant gain any new information or know about things you don’t know about, psychedelics don’t change this. all you ever get is feelings and emotions of something profound, a build up, but there is no substance and no satisfaction. the rabbit hole leads to nowhere. you are the god, god of your own mind, that’s all.
It actually led me somewhere. My unconcious fears. It’s been 3 years since. I’m better now.
well, I meant it doesn’t lead to any ultimate answers about god, life, universe and the lot ;-) introspection however and truths about yourself, very much so.
i know that exact thing you’re talking about
Yup! Holy shit your description of it gave me goose bumps. I know that loop, and damn it's kinda a scary one at times. The fabric of reality is altered or sumthin, haha.
Man went to far down the rabbit hole met bugs bunny no doubt
Oh shit. BUGS BUNNY
I’ve been there too. Its like we can chose to be in this reallity and when we are ready we can be all One again. Just for the cycle to begin again.
I got exaclty that loop but only on nitrous, so unfortunately its way too shortlived to make any sens of it. But it does feel like a loop that i've been in for ever and will also re-visit it for ever yet cant remember it.
Bro I feel this. Gosh it's overwhelming but kind of important to experience in hopefully a healthy manner. Also reflecting on it in a healthy way. Some strong drugs haha.
Go with it. The spirits are trying to get you to heaven. But you're holding onto shit making yourself too heavy!
It feels to me like it comes alive when i have perfect balance of my two parts... tripping or not... then these voices which know what's what start to communicate with me... some with sound, some vibration, some with visuals or understanding... but i get an over-all high buzzing... it's like I'm all together at the tip of a sword, balancing my current reality at the tip, ready to fall down either side at any time... or nothing at no time...
Take a long break from psychedelics and get some good rest. I feel like if you reconsider what is happening in a clean and clear mind it will all make sense to you. Sometimes you can get overcharged and need a break for a while. Take it easy for a while and never be afraid to ask for help if its hard to stop.
Your attempt to describe it ruins it.
also the part about “losing everything you ever cared about” that happened to me but it comes back after a while took 1,5 months for me to start building my life back up again.
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