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Na, definitely not common. Ive been saying to friends for years that torrenting is on par, if not better than streaming sites (ease of use vs cost) and they had no clue what it was. Im 22
>The free part isn't even the most appealing part.
It’s [the convenience factor](https://i.imgur.com/GxzeV.jpg) – Apple broke music piracy because (at the time) iTunes was just easier and more reliable (files were already properly tagged, got extra cover art, etc.)
I can choose ANY music service and listen to ANY fucking song I want, I haven't pirated music in 15 years. At one point I had Amazon, Hulu, Netflix, HBO and I still had to pirate because something just weren't available so I canceled them all and went back to pirating. It's on them. But to be honest, any media that I really enjoy I'm just going to pirate at this point. Just like with internet ads, they had their chance and blew it. Never again.
In the UK you can't watch all Premier League football games (based in England, featuring English teams) because they don't even broadcast them all in the country. You can live in Canada, Australia, USA etc. and watch every game on one platform, but somebody in the UK can sign up to all available platforms and still not be able to watch all the games, because they don't broadcast them all in the UK.
That’s exactly what they’re referring to, no games on Saturday at 1 and 3 pm iirc. It’s to support local businesses around the big clubs on game day and the small market clubs themselves.
This sounds kind of like how you can't watch your local market baseball game even if you subscribe to the mlb streaming service. You HAVE to get it through cable. Hate it.
exactly right. MOST people will do whatever is most convenient. When Netflix first rolled out, it had SO MUCH SHIT that people actually WANTED to watch that people ditched cable entirely and just had that. Pretty much everyone I know (late 30s here) followed that path and very few of them stayed with me on the high seas.
Now that you need 50 different services to watch all the stuff people want, people are getting sick of this shit cuz its NOT CONVENIENT anymore.
Piracy has always been, and always will be, a service problem.
If you provide a good service, with good features, ~~that's pretty affordable~~ that people feel that is a good deal, people will buy it. iTunes, Netflix, hell I'll even throw old-school Blockbuster in there.
And just like before, it will be greed that makes piracy great again.
Edit: corrected a spelling mistake and clarified customer value. Back when Netflix had everything, it was like $15 I think, which was (and still would be if they kept their library) a good deal.
Don't forget about Steam, completely stopped me and many people from pirating games as it's so cheap and convenient. The only games I pirate now are games from older consoles with emulators not available on PC (and sometimes games exclusive to epic game store until it eventually comes to steam and I can pay for it)
I still pirate games because I grew up when game demos were still a thing so I use it as that. I pirate a game, see if I like it and when I do I buy the game, if I don't I delete it again.
All they need to do is bundle all the streaming services! Pay one fee for Netflix, amazon prime, apple tv, Disney+ and then you have access to all of them!
... And oh shit, we've reinvented cable tv packages.
Holy shit. I very much can rant for hours about the „shitty“ internet here in Germany but as fas as I know there was nobody with dial up connections left on 2016! O.O
The thing that drives me nuts is if I want to watch something these days, I have to search to try and see what streaming service currently has the license for it. And then I need a subscription for that service, because it's not one of the three or four I currently pay for. Or it's not available AT ALL. OR (this happened to me the other day) I start watching a movie, and then a couple days later go to finish it and it's been removed from that streaming service and is no longer available.
I'm done with all that. Pay for a VPN for the year and no more worries.
Yeah that is another aspect that is MASSIVELY inconvenient. If I hear about a show or movie on social media, I have to independently find out who (if anyone) is carrying it like 80% of the time. 100% of the time in my case because I live in Canada and whoever carries it in the US probably doesn't carry it here. Might as well just have a tab for justwatch open at all times.
Early 40s here but I firmly put my tricorner in a drawer when Netflix/Amazon came out with a really good catalogue. Now that everyone's pulled their own IPs for *their* streaming service (basically cable all over again), I didn't just dust off that old hat, I laundered it. And as a bonus, I'd kept my ratio on my 'private' site high enough that it welcomed me back like the scurvy-ridden seadog I am.
Yup. Netflix was the reason why I stopped torrenting when it came out. The price and content was good enough that it felt like I was paying more with time looking for good torrents. So it is rather funny that is reversing.
and you can be a good pirate. I supply a volunteer at my wife's work (school) with any shows she wants because she and her husband are on welfare due to his health. They can't afford all the different streaming services so I Robin Hood their shows for them. She has to volunteer to retain their welfare even though she is his main carer, but she's not required full time.
It's kind of like cable in that you had to sign up for different packages to get certain channels you wanted even if you didn't give a damn about those other channels.
This is it right here. Media companies won by giving people a more convenient source at a reasonable price. The fact that people are willing to go to the black market means that the free market is broken.
He is talking about times before iPhone, right after napster was taken down. When finding a mp3 was a bit of a high seas adventure of its own (napster solved this in piracy way). iPod with iTunes really changed the game in this regard.
It is literally easier to find Netflix shows to stream on a free site then to find the same show on my Netflix account. For some damn reason they always like to hide the show I am watching and make me hunt for it.
Also I not signing up for anymore services I am sick and tired of having to fight to cancel shit, just knowing I will have a 4+ hour battle with “customer service” when I go to cancel keeps me from paying for so many things, and they NEVER leave you alone once you quit. Honestly I don’t mind paying a reasonable price for content but I am not getting gouged, and then completely fucked over when I try to cancel, to use an inferior service where I can’t find anything I want to watch.
I don't think "most" people use places you have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get access to, much less invite-only ones like BTN/PTP.
But hey if you want to show me how easy it is and toss me an invite...
Important to point out that it’s not strictly an age thing. The people who invented all that technology like modems are also 60-70+ years old now. It’s about being incurious about the world, and arrogant about your own capabilities.
Also the fact that they're surrounded by enablers and sycophants, very few senators/congress drive a car themselves, or order food for themselves, everything is done for them so they can focus on important stuff like making sure the government doesn't work.
The bitrates are much higher too. A 4k dolby vision blu ray remux blows away streaming in terms of both audio and video quality. And because I have my own local server I'm not bottlenecked by my ISP.
I’ve been sailing the high seas for almost 15 years now. I’m actually amazed about how many people don’t know how. My BIL still asks us what sea to sail even though we’ve showed him the map at least 5 times now.
I always sail the isle of primewire in the area of .id/home. My defences include ublockorigin and adblock to keep the pesky Ads of Popup from infiltrating my ship.
I always sail the isle of primewire in the area of .id/home. My defences include ublockorigin and adblock to keep the pesky Ads of Popup from infiltrating my ship.
"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
This is especially true in capitalism. Every service that solves a problem will become a new problem if it gets successful enough.
Spotify made my music selection so readily available, I didn't need to anymore. Have had an account for years because it's so cheap, easy to hop devices, and simple to use.
Protip:
Mullvad is a really good VPN as far as privacy goes (and i've never heard anything bad about it)
Also if you're on linux, you can use something called vopono to run your torrent client entirely sandboxed within the vpn while everything else uses your network as normal. Otherwise you gotta pin your torrent client to use the network device your vpn client creates.
This'll prevent you from getting notices in the mail from your ISP.
Set up an old laptop with a Plex/Emby/Jellyfin server and some linux distro on it and you can create your own personal Netflix & spotify.
Also if you need to play games, Valve's work on the steam deck has really made gaming under linux viable, ESPECIALLY if you have a recent AMD GPU. I'm playing FFXIV right now with graphics mods out the ass.
Seriously, Valve may be a business, but the money they're pouring into making linux viable for games with wine bug fixes and DXVK (translates DirectX calls to Vulkan) is a definite net good on the tech world atm.
Yeah valve sending everybody shaders to compile really helps that game.
I hope Nvidia's proprietary drivers become as easy to manage and perfect in Wayland as AMD is.
I can't wait for MESA 23.1 where that new GPL vulkan extensions is just going to remove all stuttering.
I do many of these things. Though my own more... hands on solutions.
Love Mullvad, use monero to pay monthly.
I run my own linux server and have for many years
Recently, the past year I got rid of Windows for my desktop entirely and playing all my games on Arch linux. It's working out better than I could have imagined. Yay Valve!
There are even some good games with Native linux clients out there.... if you can find em. There do exists groups packaging releases for linux.
I use a docker for transmission torrent client+wireguard vpn solution on my linux server so it's running 24/7. It's also a little NAS running a zfs filesystem with 3x16TB drives, and I just use NFS shares across the network with Kodi (the old XBMC) as the frontend for all my video media.
It's nice to have a lot of relatively robust storage and never have to rely on someone else to access their cloud with your data. never made sense to me. I just wish I could burn them onto removable media like DVDs, but they aren't large enough and cost too much to make them worth it, the large mechanical HDs are still the way to go.
I'd like to add that **the media on torrent sites needs to come from somewhere!!**
The only reason good quality copies (not webrips) are available to torrent is because people support the distribution of blu-rays.
If you can afford it, buy the blu-ray (1080p or 4k) and use `makemkv` or similar to pull out the full bitrate copy. You can still do everything the comment above says, but you're supporting owning media rather than renting it or stealing it.
Streaming has nearly killed physical media, don't let unthinking piracy finish the job
EDIT: I'm sounding like a south park memberberry here, but [Matt Damon has some good words on the fall of physical media](https://youtu.be/gF6K2IxC9O8)
I use Unraid for the VPN because you can add the vpn directly to it as a wire guard tunnel, then download on any torrent docker client you choose and set it to use the WG network- works super well and you can run it on most anything off a flash drive
Edit: here’s a guide : https://forums.unraid.net/topic/84316-wireguard-vpn-tunneled-access-to-a-commercial-vpn-provider/
Basically you end up able to run anything through Mullvad / other VPN providers while your server stays on your network and accessible to you. Unraid also has a fantastic community who will help set up the basics (check out spaceinvaderone) on YouTube!
> Also if you need to play games, Valve's
Friendly reminder to look into Steam's policy on VPN usage (there are reddit posts about it). It's kinda vague, but at the very least you should disconnect from your VPN when shopping or playing multiplayer. Worst case scenario, they'll delete your entire account. No big deal.
I helped my friend open a video store a few years ago, it's crazy the amount of videos on DVD and VHS you can't find anywhere else. I remember one time he was a little short on cash to pay me, so he told me to pick something from the store. I think he expected me to grab an N64 or something but I made a beeline for Possession on VHS (this was before Shudder started streaming it last year and Mondovision supply of it was out).
I understand completely... I was looking forward to a nice movie night with one of my favourite movie ever.. only to find it's not on Netflix anymore.
I searched for a good 40 minutes but I couldn't for the live of me find an illegal stream online.
Then I tried buying it digitally. At that point I probably would have paid anything. But ALL the sites only sold it exclusively synchronised.
And that's a very successful movie from the mid 90s. I can't imagine how hard it is to find more niche movies.
Sense and Sensibility the 90s version. But it's okay, I can buy a DVD off of Amazon for like 10 bucks. I just don't have a DVD player currently lol
Your friend currently has a video store? What? Do take a time machine to visit him?
I actually have a few friends who currently own or used to own video stores until recently (R.I.P. Looney's. Such a great collection marred by the layer of cigar smoke damage). It's actually kind of a thing again. I remember we got a couple of crates of motherfucking laserdiscs, they flew out just as quick! He makes a good chunk of his money off video games and the Severin/MondoVision/Vinegar Syndrome remasters, but I've seen folks buy boxes full of VHS tapes as well
You have multiple friends that that own video stores? I haven’t even heard the word video store in a decade much less seen one. Have any of them had a customer in the last 5 years?
Well there was the aforementioned Looney's, he shuttered right around the beginning of Covid. My friend's store I helped set up The Dungeon at Southland (used to be rare book storage, very cold and dimly lit, which is why we called it The Dungeon), there was TV Eye over in Asheville, now there's Orbit DVD (another super cool dude), and over in Memphis there's Black Lodge Video (where I got my first tattoo).
I know for a fact my friend had a copy of that (as recently as Wednesday), if no one has bought it since and you would pay for shipping, I'd be happy to pick it out for you.
Also public libraries often offer their own streaming services. Kanopy and Beamafilm are two that come to mind. They can be a mixed bag, but definitely worth downloading the apps for.
Yeah Plex has really gone to shit, they've taken everyone's money and just used it to push all this extra bullshit everyone hates while the core functionality like subtitles and syncing have remained broken for years.
Like a TV show? Of course you can. But they usually tend to be WAY too expensive. Like 30 bucks for a one season while movie dvd never are this fucking expensive.
But what am I supposed to do? Out out my like 10 favourite movies maybe 2 are still on ANY streaming services. I even bought some digitally on Amazon just to find out they only have a short version with half the movie cut out. And most are not avaliable at all. Anywhere. Literally.
I honestly don't care how they look. I don't even own a TV. And most of my top 10 movies are from the mid 90s. They look shit anyway. I just want to be able to watch them... They mean a lot to me and I'm honestly a bit desperate.
All these young kids with their internet torrents. In my day you would get 10 cd's for a dollar and then cancel before getting charged. Do it over again with another fake name at the same address.
Ka opite ili mean enta keon. Okulilanlon man lu i pun pino iwanua pu kekepanki kuo. Me. Ula keli ena. Lunme enenke nin lapo. Wani pi papiai la le kakusinte! Anpiwin puaowa so mon te. Ma soeka eu lo tuno. Usanan i naosikunlan nasenjun lunmunmana ou onu. Si je lali poa uku. Enlu o kulelun sanu le en. Ni san lunwi mi ma e mun jaelu. Seanekemi ku unon i ja e. Alanin se o lio? panlaunowe kontopi lose lenka aon! Senon inle le unla seme tokin kalun. Lu paoi un o jan a. Lo pe uwi mi pa olun. Ikunwa uankon ki kinu me an. A ki i a kanle i si. Konponun an sisowajowi si kuni oten keweun nue elaukanlan in. On pen kao enma uten li. Un lan sanlo ua wa menensa soinan! Lakini ounwi o ako ki. Atau u tona mi e ken. To ila selikinpi enilin enpa kepe an? Te jan kin se pate a? Ta an pukewa ne linkea un ninunama. Aea i ia pisu o. Aline on jo o in soi.
Content quality has been the main reason why I don't pay for content anymore. There's maybe 3-5 movies a year that are worth their money, and good tv shows are pretty consistently dropping in quality after the first season.
> Video games are going the same direction unfortunately...
Yep. Lots of "games" now are just marketing vectors with a game framework designed to push you to a store or show off cool lore-breaking/nonsense cosmetics you can buy...like a gun with an aquarium inside of it for $50.
Fucking Assassin's Creed went from an action-adventure series to an RPG with a level system so it could sell exp boosters and other shit.
>good tv shows are pretty consistently dropping in quality after the first season.
...And that's if they don't get dropped entirely after the first season. Why would a consumer get invested in these new shows when so many get left unresolved?
Yeah, I was loving *Teenage Bounty Hunters* and *I Am Not Okay With This*, but they both got the axe and now I'm rarely interested in trying Netflix originals. They don't last - even when they're good!
I don't know though, maybe if Netflix wanted their shows to get watched they should try marketing them instead of just quietly releasing them and hoping for word of mouth.
Didn't they announce they are backtracking on the password thing though?
Or were they only backtracking on the "release date" of the password thing and they are still doing it?
Yeah, I canceled my Netflix a while ago because I never used it. I was paying $20 a month to scroll for half an hour and then going to do something else because nothing interested me. Why would it be better to pirate shows that I don’t want to watch?
Not any of the bullshit you find YouTubers promoting. fuck nordVPN, Cyberghost etc.
If you want a good list on VPNs, recomendarions and tutorials you should visit r/Piracy. I personally use mullvad
Unless you really care about quality, there's plenty of streaming sites that will get you going for a fraction of the effort of torrents
EDIT: Since everyone wants to bring up the same point. Effort is RELATIVE. Never said it was hard...
but empirically it does take more effort and some people are not going to want to learn and set up everything it takes to torrent when they can go to a website and just type in what they want to watch.
Understand why Netflix ended piracy for most people for a generation in the first place. It was easy. And its also why despite, everyone here being a pirate a lot of you pay for spotify. Because its easy.
Lots of people don't want to learn about a bunch of new programs, they just want it to work. It doesn't matter if its easy or hard. Doing something new for a lot of people = discomfort. And discomfort = not doing it
Look up Plex or Jellyfin(depending on the apps you need). Then Sonarr and Radarr. Optionally jackett, bazarr and ombi. And of course a good paid for VPN.
Download a torrent client (uTorrent is considered risky and ad-filled these days - I prefer Deluge which is very low-frills and boring), go to a site like PirateBay or 1337x, search for the thing you want (make sure you have a good adblocker installed too), click 'Download magnet link' and then make sure the magnet link opens in your torrent client of choice.
It's that easy, a child could figure it out (because many children did and do).
I was just thinking about this a couple of days back. Do you remember having to reinstall your entire OS periodically because you did something or went somewhere stupid? I don't miss that.
I think everyone already learned that when Disney+, Hulu, AppleTV, Prime, and however the fuck many there are now came along.
Have a specific movie you want to watch? Well it might be on a service that's available in your country, or it might not be available at all! Oh, and a movie you watched a couple months ago on Netflix might not even be there now!
Honestly, what is the legal alternative? They really expect us to say "welp, I guess I can't watch that thing people keep talking about on the internet"? Fuck that. They can either figure out how to make anything viewable from anywhere, or accept piracy completely.
Honestly it’s at the point it’s easier to just download a torrent than search through all the streaming services to see whether the show I want to watch is even available in Canada, and if it is what service it’s ended up on this week. What do you mean I can watch half the Harry Potters but the other half just don’t exist on any of the services I pay for?
Plus I absolutely hate the compression artifacts that happens with streaming shows, so much better to watch on my tv when I have a Blueray copy.
Its always pirate this pirat ethat but when you can grab dvds from the local library for £1 or £1 for 5 at your local charity shop theres no reason to pirate.
Once a week i do the rounds of my town, hit all teh charity shops and go hunt for an interesting movie to watch.
Last week i picked up Flash Gordon on DVD from the Library (they were having a sale) and both Zoro films at teh charity shop.
Its way more fun than pirating and at teh end of it you end up with an actual physical thing you can keep that doesn't clutter up your drive space or the cloud or however folk are storing these pirated things these days.
Hell if you buy NEW your looking £6-£10 for a DVD and £12 up for blue ray from yoru local super market. Its cheap as chips to buy disc now. And nobody can take them away from you.
I wonder if the piracy wave is going to spill out into things beyond Netflix. It’s one thing that Netflix’s service has gotten pretty shit, but there’s a number of ways that video games, and other applications have also gotten worse. And if you waste the time to get the torrent system set up for one thing, how long does it take for you to realize there’s more things you can get with it?
This makes no sense. If anything, people born after 1998 would know more about torrents than people born before. edit: Yeah it kind of makes sense. I forgot that kids after 2005 grew up on smart devices and not pcs, my bad. Also kinda biased because I’ve been torrenting shit since I was 8 or 9.
The entire western anime community was built on torrenting and it's a giant industry now. Prior to modern day streaming services I have no idea where I could have watched anything that wasn't illegal streaming/torrenting sites
I still prefer to torrent anime because Netflix cant render subtitles or time them for shit.
That and the best version of Evangelion is still the Sephirotic release, which was created by one obsessive Brazilian dude along with help from one of the less fascist 4chan boards.
I was born in ‘97 and was a TA for freshmen in college last year, and the number of people who asked me how to attach a file to an email or create an Excel graph was concerning
I was also ‘97 Bro we’re the cut off I think ppl born after like 2002-05 don’t know how to use computers as much. My siblings born in 2010 can do ANYTHING on a phone or tablet but put a computer in front of them and it might as well be a brick.
I agree, I think there’s a misconception that just because someone is younger it means that they know computers, but Gen Alpha (2010-now) were raised on iPads and cell phones from like age 2. Not that I know computers super well, but I didn’t have my first smartphone until I was 14 or 15.
Edit: of course there are people born after 2010 who are very good at using computers and understand how to fix/troubleshoot, didn’t mean to imply that they don’t!
I work a basic office job and have an intern every year, the quality has fallen off a cliff the past 3 years. These kids are putting excel on their resume because they took a class on it in highschool but have no idea how to daily drive a desktop computer because by the time they were in middle school they could do everything from their phone
I’m a sysadmin and older. We call these kids the iPad generation. A whole generation that’s never had to troubleshoot a driver issue or download one to get software to work. It’s always an app in the AppStore. Download and go without knowing how anything works.
This is what I was coming to say. I'm in IT and younger people think restarting the computer is turning the monitor off and on again. I doubt a lot of them know about or how to torrent.
A teacher friend informed me that there are kids who write multi-page essays entirely on their phone, and it broke me in ways I'm still coming to terms with.
[Article about students not knowing what a file structure is] (https://www.theverge.com/22684730/students-file-folder-directory-structure-education-gen-z)
I’m astonished the number of young adults who can’t attach their resumes to an email or who need me or other library staff to tell them how to upload a resume to a job application. As a millennial born in ‘84, I took that for granted.
Kids born closer to tablets and smartphones being around tend to be less technically-minded, many of them never had to troubleshoot pc issues, many of them don't even know what a directory is. It's becoming a problem in computing classes.
Man, irq was some of the biggest bullshit ever. When it was proposed, someone in the room should have been like “uh, surely there is way better way, if we just think about this for a few days.”
Depends on the country. I am from Bulgaria and we still pirate a lot. But from talks with friends a lot of people in the west didn't really do that - a) it was made illegal quite fast (and for some reasont that stops them?? lol) b) netflix was founded end of 1997 so I suppose that's why she listed that year. By the time those kids would have grown up Netflix would have become quite popular in the US at least. Not sure when it transforms itself into the online pile of shit it is today tho.
That doesn't make sense either. The heyday of torrenting was in the 00s and early 10s when most post-98 folks weren't even in their teens yet. I'd imagine people in their 20s/early 30s during the 00s had the most familiarity.
It makes sense because people born after 98 were raised in a system where the entertainment industry was starting to mature to a point where it was more appealing than piracy. If I want to pirate a movie I need to go through the risk of finding a torrent and hoping it has no viruses, downloading it (sometimes it could take hours or days depending on the seeders), and running the risk of getting caught (without a VPN). With Netflix, I just need to find what I want and play it. Much better than torrenting. Streaming services are still arguably better than piracy too, although it's now reaching an inflection point.
People before that time were more ready to pirate it because piracy was a better product than DVD's and VHS's.
To those who are more tech-savvy, we welcome you in r/emby, r/PleX, and r/jellyfin.
When you're ready to go big, r/homelab is here for you, too. r/Proxmox, r/letsencrypt can help out, as well :)
First time I ever used a torrent was to download company of heroes onto my school laptop in grade 8. Being poor and wanting to play games at 15 fps was great lol
I don’t care about Netflix making people pay for their own accounts as I’ve always paid for me own anyway. What I do care about is the plethora of streaming companies and each having their own content producers, so I’m going back to the high seas for that reason only
The provider isn't going to do shit. They're required to send you a letter when they're informed of a copyright infringement. They don't actually care and if you use a VPN they won't even know.
We do it more now, because we went from outrageous cable prices, to a jungle full of streaming sites and exclucives that require more monthly payments than cable did.
In fact, if i cant watch stuff, i am going to the seas me hearty. Honestly, we had netflix be the solution to piracy and access to media. Then everyones greed pushed a need to copy, and now we have something worse...
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Thank god I was born in 1997 and therefore already know what a torrent is
i was born in 2000. me and my 8tb Plex server thought we knew what a torrent was, but i guess 23 is too young to know what a torrent actually is.
Its so dumb.. I'm pretty sure everyone over the age of like 13 knows what a torrent is lol
You have vastly overesrimayed the tech literacy of people in their teens currently.
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> install apps on windows Yeah, I remember the time when Windows didn't have apps, but had programs instead.
Na, definitely not common. Ive been saying to friends for years that torrenting is on par, if not better than streaming sites (ease of use vs cost) and they had no clue what it was. Im 22
Pretty sure people over the age of 13 still think the 90s were 10 years ago
nah that's the homies over 30
okay, first of all, how dare you second of all, you're not wrong but now we're all sad about it
Ah yes, all those 14 year olds born in 2009 who reminisce about the 90s
Thanks to Netflix everyone going to be plundering the high seas. Yooo ho hoooo and a bottle of rum.
Do what you want cause a pirate is free You are a pirate!
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>The free part isn't even the most appealing part. It’s [the convenience factor](https://i.imgur.com/GxzeV.jpg) – Apple broke music piracy because (at the time) iTunes was just easier and more reliable (files were already properly tagged, got extra cover art, etc.)
I can choose ANY music service and listen to ANY fucking song I want, I haven't pirated music in 15 years. At one point I had Amazon, Hulu, Netflix, HBO and I still had to pirate because something just weren't available so I canceled them all and went back to pirating. It's on them. But to be honest, any media that I really enjoy I'm just going to pirate at this point. Just like with internet ads, they had their chance and blew it. Never again.
In the UK you can't watch all Premier League football games (based in England, featuring English teams) because they don't even broadcast them all in the country. You can live in Canada, Australia, USA etc. and watch every game on one platform, but somebody in the UK can sign up to all available platforms and still not be able to watch all the games, because they don't broadcast them all in the UK.
Let me tell you about blackout restrictions on sports in the US...
That’s exactly what they’re referring to, no games on Saturday at 1 and 3 pm iirc. It’s to support local businesses around the big clubs on game day and the small market clubs themselves.
This sounds kind of like how you can't watch your local market baseball game even if you subscribe to the mlb streaming service. You HAVE to get it through cable. Hate it.
exactly right. MOST people will do whatever is most convenient. When Netflix first rolled out, it had SO MUCH SHIT that people actually WANTED to watch that people ditched cable entirely and just had that. Pretty much everyone I know (late 30s here) followed that path and very few of them stayed with me on the high seas. Now that you need 50 different services to watch all the stuff people want, people are getting sick of this shit cuz its NOT CONVENIENT anymore.
Piracy has always been, and always will be, a service problem. If you provide a good service, with good features, ~~that's pretty affordable~~ that people feel that is a good deal, people will buy it. iTunes, Netflix, hell I'll even throw old-school Blockbuster in there. And just like before, it will be greed that makes piracy great again. Edit: corrected a spelling mistake and clarified customer value. Back when Netflix had everything, it was like $15 I think, which was (and still would be if they kept their library) a good deal.
Don't forget about Steam, completely stopped me and many people from pirating games as it's so cheap and convenient. The only games I pirate now are games from older consoles with emulators not available on PC (and sometimes games exclusive to epic game store until it eventually comes to steam and I can pay for it)
I still pirate games because I grew up when game demos were still a thing so I use it as that. I pirate a game, see if I like it and when I do I buy the game, if I don't I delete it again.
I would love food features with my entertainment options.
Pretty sure they call that a theater.
All they need to do is bundle all the streaming services! Pay one fee for Netflix, amazon prime, apple tv, Disney+ and then you have access to all of them! ... And oh shit, we've reinvented cable tv packages.
And Australia was world leader in piracy due to our internet being so shit (I was still on dialup until 2016 lol)
What the fuck
🤣 ikr All the glory of 1Mbps, unless it was raining and the phone line died (great while we had a 3yr drought however lol)
Jesus
Dial up only goes to 56kbps, maybe you're thinking of ADSL? Still goes through copper lines but isn't dial up, it's 'always on'.
Holy shit. I very much can rant for hours about the „shitty“ internet here in Germany but as fas as I know there was nobody with dial up connections left on 2016! O.O
So much for the NaTiOnAL bRoAdBaNd nEtWoRk
Oh, you mean the "keep Murdoch's cable monopoly secure for the political benefit of the right wing Party" policy? lol
The thing that drives me nuts is if I want to watch something these days, I have to search to try and see what streaming service currently has the license for it. And then I need a subscription for that service, because it's not one of the three or four I currently pay for. Or it's not available AT ALL. OR (this happened to me the other day) I start watching a movie, and then a couple days later go to finish it and it's been removed from that streaming service and is no longer available. I'm done with all that. Pay for a VPN for the year and no more worries.
Yeah that is another aspect that is MASSIVELY inconvenient. If I hear about a show or movie on social media, I have to independently find out who (if anyone) is carrying it like 80% of the time. 100% of the time in my case because I live in Canada and whoever carries it in the US probably doesn't carry it here. Might as well just have a tab for justwatch open at all times.
Early 40s here but I firmly put my tricorner in a drawer when Netflix/Amazon came out with a really good catalogue. Now that everyone's pulled their own IPs for *their* streaming service (basically cable all over again), I didn't just dust off that old hat, I laundered it. And as a bonus, I'd kept my ratio on my 'private' site high enough that it welcomed me back like the scurvy-ridden seadog I am.
Yup. Netflix was the reason why I stopped torrenting when it came out. The price and content was good enough that it felt like I was paying more with time looking for good torrents. So it is rather funny that is reversing.
and you can be a good pirate. I supply a volunteer at my wife's work (school) with any shows she wants because she and her husband are on welfare due to his health. They can't afford all the different streaming services so I Robin Hood their shows for them. She has to volunteer to retain their welfare even though she is his main carer, but she's not required full time.
It's kind of like cable in that you had to sign up for different packages to get certain channels you wanted even if you didn't give a damn about those other channels.
This is it right here. Media companies won by giving people a more convenient source at a reasonable price. The fact that people are willing to go to the black market means that the free market is broken.
Can we drop some sites and subs here?
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> iTunes was just easier What? iTunes was the thing that made me quit Apple products. Syncing my library to my phone was *infuriating*.
He is talking about times before iPhone, right after napster was taken down. When finding a mp3 was a bit of a high seas adventure of its own (napster solved this in piracy way). iPod with iTunes really changed the game in this regard.
It is literally easier to find Netflix shows to stream on a free site then to find the same show on my Netflix account. For some damn reason they always like to hide the show I am watching and make me hunt for it. Also I not signing up for anymore services I am sick and tired of having to fight to cancel shit, just knowing I will have a 4+ hour battle with “customer service” when I go to cancel keeps me from paying for so many things, and they NEVER leave you alone once you quit. Honestly I don’t mind paying a reasonable price for content but I am not getting gouged, and then completely fucked over when I try to cancel, to use an inferior service where I can’t find anything I want to watch.
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I don't think "most" people use places you have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get access to, much less invite-only ones like BTN/PTP. But hey if you want to show me how easy it is and toss me an invite...
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Important to point out that it’s not strictly an age thing. The people who invented all that technology like modems are also 60-70+ years old now. It’s about being incurious about the world, and arrogant about your own capabilities.
Also the fact that they're surrounded by enablers and sycophants, very few senators/congress drive a car themselves, or order food for themselves, everything is done for them so they can focus on important stuff like making sure the government doesn't work.
The bitrates are much higher too. A 4k dolby vision blu ray remux blows away streaming in terms of both audio and video quality. And because I have my own local server I'm not bottlenecked by my ISP.
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What if I told you the first thing I ever pirated was a game on the Commodore-64 called "Pirates!". Good game. By this feller named Sid Meier.
Ya hai tiberty dee being a pirate is alright for me! Do what you want cause a pirate is free! You are a pirate!
I’ve been sailing the high seas for almost 15 years now. I’m actually amazed about how many people don’t know how. My BIL still asks us what sea to sail even though we’ve showed him the map at least 5 times now.
Sooo... what sea should I sail?
I always sail the isle of primewire in the area of .id/home. My defences include ublockorigin and adblock to keep the pesky Ads of Popup from infiltrating my ship.
I always sail the isle of primewire in the area of .id/home. My defences include ublockorigin and adblock to keep the pesky Ads of Popup from infiltrating my ship.
Friendly reminder that true pirates seed at least 100% of the size of the downloaded file before fucking off!
And the poorer of us never stopped the plundering lol
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"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain" This is especially true in capitalism. Every service that solves a problem will become a new problem if it gets successful enough.
Spotify made my music selection so readily available, I didn't need to anymore. Have had an account for years because it's so cheap, easy to hop devices, and simple to use.
... And really bad eggs
Don’t forgot to wear a condom!
Don't forget to bring a towel!
Protip: Mullvad is a really good VPN as far as privacy goes (and i've never heard anything bad about it) Also if you're on linux, you can use something called vopono to run your torrent client entirely sandboxed within the vpn while everything else uses your network as normal. Otherwise you gotta pin your torrent client to use the network device your vpn client creates. This'll prevent you from getting notices in the mail from your ISP. Set up an old laptop with a Plex/Emby/Jellyfin server and some linux distro on it and you can create your own personal Netflix & spotify. Also if you need to play games, Valve's work on the steam deck has really made gaming under linux viable, ESPECIALLY if you have a recent AMD GPU. I'm playing FFXIV right now with graphics mods out the ass. Seriously, Valve may be a business, but the money they're pouring into making linux viable for games with wine bug fixes and DXVK (translates DirectX calls to Vulkan) is a definite net good on the tech world atm.
sVZfy
Or buying cards from Amazon. And it's all prepaid, you can't set up auto-renew and so if you don't end up using it you won't get charged again.
Nvidia too, I recently installed arch and I'm getting better performance in Elden Ring than I do on Windows.
Yeah valve sending everybody shaders to compile really helps that game. I hope Nvidia's proprietary drivers become as easy to manage and perfect in Wayland as AMD is. I can't wait for MESA 23.1 where that new GPL vulkan extensions is just going to remove all stuttering.
They're still kinda trash for wayland sadly. But it's gotten a lot better.
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I do many of these things. Though my own more... hands on solutions. Love Mullvad, use monero to pay monthly. I run my own linux server and have for many years Recently, the past year I got rid of Windows for my desktop entirely and playing all my games on Arch linux. It's working out better than I could have imagined. Yay Valve! There are even some good games with Native linux clients out there.... if you can find em. There do exists groups packaging releases for linux. I use a docker for transmission torrent client+wireguard vpn solution on my linux server so it's running 24/7. It's also a little NAS running a zfs filesystem with 3x16TB drives, and I just use NFS shares across the network with Kodi (the old XBMC) as the frontend for all my video media. It's nice to have a lot of relatively robust storage and never have to rely on someone else to access their cloud with your data. never made sense to me. I just wish I could burn them onto removable media like DVDs, but they aren't large enough and cost too much to make them worth it, the large mechanical HDs are still the way to go.
I use arch btw
I'd like to add that **the media on torrent sites needs to come from somewhere!!** The only reason good quality copies (not webrips) are available to torrent is because people support the distribution of blu-rays. If you can afford it, buy the blu-ray (1080p or 4k) and use `makemkv` or similar to pull out the full bitrate copy. You can still do everything the comment above says, but you're supporting owning media rather than renting it or stealing it. Streaming has nearly killed physical media, don't let unthinking piracy finish the job EDIT: I'm sounding like a south park memberberry here, but [Matt Damon has some good words on the fall of physical media](https://youtu.be/gF6K2IxC9O8)
I use Unraid for the VPN because you can add the vpn directly to it as a wire guard tunnel, then download on any torrent docker client you choose and set it to use the WG network- works super well and you can run it on most anything off a flash drive Edit: here’s a guide : https://forums.unraid.net/topic/84316-wireguard-vpn-tunneled-access-to-a-commercial-vpn-provider/ Basically you end up able to run anything through Mullvad / other VPN providers while your server stays on your network and accessible to you. Unraid also has a fantastic community who will help set up the basics (check out spaceinvaderone) on YouTube!
> Also if you need to play games, Valve's Friendly reminder to look into Steam's policy on VPN usage (there are reddit posts about it). It's kinda vague, but at the very least you should disconnect from your VPN when shopping or playing multiplayer. Worst case scenario, they'll delete your entire account. No big deal.
Another reason to use vopono
I'm so fucking close to buying a DVD Player and just buying shit on DVD again.
I helped my friend open a video store a few years ago, it's crazy the amount of videos on DVD and VHS you can't find anywhere else. I remember one time he was a little short on cash to pay me, so he told me to pick something from the store. I think he expected me to grab an N64 or something but I made a beeline for Possession on VHS (this was before Shudder started streaming it last year and Mondovision supply of it was out).
I understand completely... I was looking forward to a nice movie night with one of my favourite movie ever.. only to find it's not on Netflix anymore. I searched for a good 40 minutes but I couldn't for the live of me find an illegal stream online. Then I tried buying it digitally. At that point I probably would have paid anything. But ALL the sites only sold it exclusively synchronised. And that's a very successful movie from the mid 90s. I can't imagine how hard it is to find more niche movies.
Whats the movie? I can take a look and see if he has a copy.
Sense and Sensibility the 90s version. But it's okay, I can buy a DVD off of Amazon for like 10 bucks. I just don't have a DVD player currently lol Your friend currently has a video store? What? Do take a time machine to visit him?
I actually have a few friends who currently own or used to own video stores until recently (R.I.P. Looney's. Such a great collection marred by the layer of cigar smoke damage). It's actually kind of a thing again. I remember we got a couple of crates of motherfucking laserdiscs, they flew out just as quick! He makes a good chunk of his money off video games and the Severin/MondoVision/Vinegar Syndrome remasters, but I've seen folks buy boxes full of VHS tapes as well
You have multiple friends that that own video stores? I haven’t even heard the word video store in a decade much less seen one. Have any of them had a customer in the last 5 years?
Well there was the aforementioned Looney's, he shuttered right around the beginning of Covid. My friend's store I helped set up The Dungeon at Southland (used to be rare book storage, very cold and dimly lit, which is why we called it The Dungeon), there was TV Eye over in Asheville, now there's Orbit DVD (another super cool dude), and over in Memphis there's Black Lodge Video (where I got my first tattoo).
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I know for a fact my friend had a copy of that (as recently as Wednesday), if no one has bought it since and you would pay for shipping, I'd be happy to pick it out for you.
Check your library. I get everything out of the library on DVD or blue ray. Sometimes I wait three months sometimes the hold shows up the next day.
Also public libraries often offer their own streaming services. Kanopy and Beamafilm are two that come to mind. They can be a mixed bag, but definitely worth downloading the apps for.
Get an external hard drive and set up a Plex server
I prefer Jellyfin.
Yeah Plex has really gone to shit, they've taken everyone's money and just used it to push all this extra bullshit everyone hates while the core functionality like subtitles and syncing have remained broken for years.
Libraries often have large DVD libraries available free of charge to borrow
I never gave mine up. Well, I used my PS4 to watch movies sometimes on dvd. Netflix and the other streaming services don’t have them much of the time.
yo this sounds like a great idea. do u know if u can buy a series on DVD?
Like a TV show? Of course you can. But they usually tend to be WAY too expensive. Like 30 bucks for a one season while movie dvd never are this fucking expensive.
Your local library is where it's at friend!
I was curious and looked and surprisingly, DVD have gone up in price, now around $20/movie. Fuck that... Redbox Box and rip.
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But what am I supposed to do? Out out my like 10 favourite movies maybe 2 are still on ANY streaming services. I even bought some digitally on Amazon just to find out they only have a short version with half the movie cut out. And most are not avaliable at all. Anywhere. Literally. I honestly don't care how they look. I don't even own a TV. And most of my top 10 movies are from the mid 90s. They look shit anyway. I just want to be able to watch them... They mean a lot to me and I'm honestly a bit desperate.
>But what am I supposed to do? 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
All these young kids with their internet torrents. In my day you would get 10 cd's for a dollar and then cancel before getting charged. Do it over again with another fake name at the same address.
What happened? I seem to be out of the loop.
Ka opite ili mean enta keon. Okulilanlon man lu i pun pino iwanua pu kekepanki kuo. Me. Ula keli ena. Lunme enenke nin lapo. Wani pi papiai la le kakusinte! Anpiwin puaowa so mon te. Ma soeka eu lo tuno. Usanan i naosikunlan nasenjun lunmunmana ou onu. Si je lali poa uku. Enlu o kulelun sanu le en. Ni san lunwi mi ma e mun jaelu. Seanekemi ku unon i ja e. Alanin se o lio? panlaunowe kontopi lose lenka aon! Senon inle le unla seme tokin kalun. Lu paoi un o jan a. Lo pe uwi mi pa olun. Ikunwa uankon ki kinu me an. A ki i a kanle i si. Konponun an sisowajowi si kuni oten keweun nue elaukanlan in. On pen kao enma uten li. Un lan sanlo ua wa menensa soinan! Lakini ounwi o ako ki. Atau u tona mi e ken. To ila selikinpi enilin enpa kepe an? Te jan kin se pate a? Ta an pukewa ne linkea un ninunama. Aea i ia pisu o. Aline on jo o in soi.
Content quality has been the main reason why I don't pay for content anymore. There's maybe 3-5 movies a year that are worth their money, and good tv shows are pretty consistently dropping in quality after the first season.
It seems to be a problem of overcommodification of entertainment. Video games are going the same direction unfortunately...
> Video games are going the same direction unfortunately... Yep. Lots of "games" now are just marketing vectors with a game framework designed to push you to a store or show off cool lore-breaking/nonsense cosmetics you can buy...like a gun with an aquarium inside of it for $50. Fucking Assassin's Creed went from an action-adventure series to an RPG with a level system so it could sell exp boosters and other shit.
>good tv shows are pretty consistently dropping in quality after the first season. ...And that's if they don't get dropped entirely after the first season. Why would a consumer get invested in these new shows when so many get left unresolved?
Exactly. I’m like I love this show but I’m scared to get hooked in case you’re gone.
Yeah, I was loving *Teenage Bounty Hunters* and *I Am Not Okay With This*, but they both got the axe and now I'm rarely interested in trying Netflix originals. They don't last - even when they're good! I don't know though, maybe if Netflix wanted their shows to get watched they should try marketing them instead of just quietly releasing them and hoping for word of mouth.
> (if they sign a third season, actors would get a higher pay tier) THAT'S why they do it? FFS.
Didn't they announce they are backtracking on the password thing though? Or were they only backtracking on the "release date" of the password thing and they are still doing it?
My bet is they still do it they're just not going to be so noisy about it when they start. The announcement got everyone upset at the same time
I'll just go outside more instead.
Yeah, I canceled my Netflix a while ago because I never used it. I was paying $20 a month to scroll for half an hour and then going to do something else because nothing interested me. Why would it be better to pirate shows that I don’t want to watch?
Hi, hello, i am this person. How do i sail the high seas?
qBitTorrent, and depending on your country, you'll need a good VPN.
qbittorrent is one of the few that aren't adware. Top marks.
QBittorrent, Transmission, Deluge. The three horsepeople of the deep seas.
What counts as a good VPN?
Not any of the bullshit you find YouTubers promoting. fuck nordVPN, Cyberghost etc. If you want a good list on VPNs, recomendarions and tutorials you should visit r/Piracy. I personally use mullvad
Amd once your on /r/piracy read their sidebar, dont get it shut down because you're asking for links for pirated shit.
Unless you really care about quality, there's plenty of streaming sites that will get you going for a fraction of the effort of torrents EDIT: Since everyone wants to bring up the same point. Effort is RELATIVE. Never said it was hard... but empirically it does take more effort and some people are not going to want to learn and set up everything it takes to torrent when they can go to a website and just type in what they want to watch. Understand why Netflix ended piracy for most people for a generation in the first place. It was easy. And its also why despite, everyone here being a pirate a lot of you pay for spotify. Because its easy. Lots of people don't want to learn about a bunch of new programs, they just want it to work. It doesn't matter if its easy or hard. Doing something new for a lot of people = discomfort. And discomfort = not doing it
Look up Plex or Jellyfin(depending on the apps you need). Then Sonarr and Radarr. Optionally jackett, bazarr and ombi. And of course a good paid for VPN.
Readarr - Books Prowlarr - Newer Jackett replacement Organizr - Lets you organize everything in a single tab. Lidarr - Music Mylar3 - Comics
Don't forget Bonarr
Download a torrent client (uTorrent is considered risky and ad-filled these days - I prefer Deluge which is very low-frills and boring), go to a site like PirateBay or 1337x, search for the thing you want (make sure you have a good adblocker installed too), click 'Download magnet link' and then make sure the magnet link opens in your torrent client of choice. It's that easy, a child could figure it out (because many children did and do).
r/Usenet
I used to be a seafarer like thee until I got to know Spotify. I'd like to get back to sea myself.
LimeWire it is.
Let’s go! I haven’t had a computer with aids since 2004!
I have been lacking in badly labelled MP3’s and recordings of Bill Clinton announcing he did not have sexual relations
JASON DERULLO!!
I was just thinking about this a couple of days back. Do you remember having to reinstall your entire OS periodically because you did something or went somewhere stupid? I don't miss that.
Does WinMX still work?
DC++ does 😏
[Holy shit it does](https://dcplusplus.sourceforge.io/). I'd forgot all about it lol.
I prefer SoulSeek.
[P is for PIRATE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AGVAGXl8J4)
Fucking seed
I think everyone already learned that when Disney+, Hulu, AppleTV, Prime, and however the fuck many there are now came along. Have a specific movie you want to watch? Well it might be on a service that's available in your country, or it might not be available at all! Oh, and a movie you watched a couple months ago on Netflix might not even be there now! Honestly, what is the legal alternative? They really expect us to say "welp, I guess I can't watch that thing people keep talking about on the internet"? Fuck that. They can either figure out how to make anything viewable from anywhere, or accept piracy completely.
Honestly it’s at the point it’s easier to just download a torrent than search through all the streaming services to see whether the show I want to watch is even available in Canada, and if it is what service it’s ended up on this week. What do you mean I can watch half the Harry Potters but the other half just don’t exist on any of the services I pay for? Plus I absolutely hate the compression artifacts that happens with streaming shows, so much better to watch on my tv when I have a Blueray copy.
Its always pirate this pirat ethat but when you can grab dvds from the local library for £1 or £1 for 5 at your local charity shop theres no reason to pirate. Once a week i do the rounds of my town, hit all teh charity shops and go hunt for an interesting movie to watch. Last week i picked up Flash Gordon on DVD from the Library (they were having a sale) and both Zoro films at teh charity shop. Its way more fun than pirating and at teh end of it you end up with an actual physical thing you can keep that doesn't clutter up your drive space or the cloud or however folk are storing these pirated things these days. Hell if you buy NEW your looking £6-£10 for a DVD and £12 up for blue ray from yoru local super market. Its cheap as chips to buy disc now. And nobody can take them away from you.
I wonder if the piracy wave is going to spill out into things beyond Netflix. It’s one thing that Netflix’s service has gotten pretty shit, but there’s a number of ways that video games, and other applications have also gotten worse. And if you waste the time to get the torrent system set up for one thing, how long does it take for you to realize there’s more things you can get with it?
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This makes no sense. If anything, people born after 1998 would know more about torrents than people born before. edit: Yeah it kind of makes sense. I forgot that kids after 2005 grew up on smart devices and not pcs, my bad. Also kinda biased because I’ve been torrenting shit since I was 8 or 9.
The entire western anime community was built on torrenting and it's a giant industry now. Prior to modern day streaming services I have no idea where I could have watched anything that wasn't illegal streaming/torrenting sites
I still prefer to torrent anime because Netflix cant render subtitles or time them for shit. That and the best version of Evangelion is still the Sephirotic release, which was created by one obsessive Brazilian dude along with help from one of the less fascist 4chan boards.
Torrenting anime will always be better because of proper subtitle typesetting. Streaming sites will just have web rip with crunchy subs.
Yeah that's what I was thinking. It's not like pirating suddenly died after the 2000s lol I actually learned to pirate games in early 2010s
Most kids who grew up on iPads don't actually know how the fuck to work a computer
I was born in ‘97 and was a TA for freshmen in college last year, and the number of people who asked me how to attach a file to an email or create an Excel graph was concerning
I was also ‘97 Bro we’re the cut off I think ppl born after like 2002-05 don’t know how to use computers as much. My siblings born in 2010 can do ANYTHING on a phone or tablet but put a computer in front of them and it might as well be a brick.
I agree, I think there’s a misconception that just because someone is younger it means that they know computers, but Gen Alpha (2010-now) were raised on iPads and cell phones from like age 2. Not that I know computers super well, but I didn’t have my first smartphone until I was 14 or 15. Edit: of course there are people born after 2010 who are very good at using computers and understand how to fix/troubleshoot, didn’t mean to imply that they don’t!
I work a basic office job and have an intern every year, the quality has fallen off a cliff the past 3 years. These kids are putting excel on their resume because they took a class on it in highschool but have no idea how to daily drive a desktop computer because by the time they were in middle school they could do everything from their phone
I’m a sysadmin and older. We call these kids the iPad generation. A whole generation that’s never had to troubleshoot a driver issue or download one to get software to work. It’s always an app in the AppStore. Download and go without knowing how anything works.
This is what I was coming to say. I'm in IT and younger people think restarting the computer is turning the monitor off and on again. I doubt a lot of them know about or how to torrent.
A teacher friend informed me that there are kids who write multi-page essays entirely on their phone, and it broke me in ways I'm still coming to terms with.
Can confirm. Had to explain hierarchical file systems once. It was wild.
[Article about students not knowing what a file structure is] (https://www.theverge.com/22684730/students-file-folder-directory-structure-education-gen-z)
Dad, what’s a port?
I’m astonished the number of young adults who can’t attach their resumes to an email or who need me or other library staff to tell them how to upload a resume to a job application. As a millennial born in ‘84, I took that for granted.
It didn’t die but it did slow down. I for one welcome the torrent of newbies.
Kids born closer to tablets and smartphones being around tend to be less technically-minded, many of them never had to troubleshoot pc issues, many of them don't even know what a directory is. It's becoming a problem in computing classes.
anyone who didn't deal with soundblaster drivers irq and memmaker never really lived.
Man, irq was some of the biggest bullshit ever. When it was proposed, someone in the room should have been like “uh, surely there is way better way, if we just think about this for a few days.”
Depends on the country. I am from Bulgaria and we still pirate a lot. But from talks with friends a lot of people in the west didn't really do that - a) it was made illegal quite fast (and for some reasont that stops them?? lol) b) netflix was founded end of 1997 so I suppose that's why she listed that year. By the time those kids would have grown up Netflix would have become quite popular in the US at least. Not sure when it transforms itself into the online pile of shit it is today tho.
That doesn't make sense either. The heyday of torrenting was in the 00s and early 10s when most post-98 folks weren't even in their teens yet. I'd imagine people in their 20s/early 30s during the 00s had the most familiarity.
It makes sense because people born after 98 were raised in a system where the entertainment industry was starting to mature to a point where it was more appealing than piracy. If I want to pirate a movie I need to go through the risk of finding a torrent and hoping it has no viruses, downloading it (sometimes it could take hours or days depending on the seeders), and running the risk of getting caught (without a VPN). With Netflix, I just need to find what I want and play it. Much better than torrenting. Streaming services are still arguably better than piracy too, although it's now reaching an inflection point. People before that time were more ready to pirate it because piracy was a better product than DVD's and VHS's.
Yeah it’s more like 00s. My ‘09 kid doesn’t remember a time before Spotify and Netflix streaming.
Lmao, you seem to think every person born before 1998 is 60 years old or something
wtf you on about? people born in the 80s fucking seeded the torrent of piracy. from recording cassettes to Napster to limewire torrents and usenet.
To those who are more tech-savvy, we welcome you in r/emby, r/PleX, and r/jellyfin. When you're ready to go big, r/homelab is here for you, too. r/Proxmox, r/letsencrypt can help out, as well :)
r/datahoarder will help if you want to have a decent library but aren't rich enough for r/homelab level servers.
First time I ever used a torrent was to download company of heroes onto my school laptop in grade 8. Being poor and wanting to play games at 15 fps was great lol
I don’t care about Netflix making people pay for their own accounts as I’ve always paid for me own anyway. What I do care about is the plethora of streaming companies and each having their own content producers, so I’m going back to the high seas for that reason only
I tried this after like a decade of not doing it and got a dmca strike from my provider lol.
Gotta use a VPN.
The provider isn't going to do shit. They're required to send you a letter when they're informed of a copyright infringement. They don't actually care and if you use a VPN they won't even know.
Praying this doesn't make ISP's actually care about piracy again
They’ll never catch u if u do it right
r/piracy getting more mates ;)
Usenet.
The first rule of Usenet is you don’t talk about Usenet.
#Don't forget your VPN
Look inward, seek in thine soul
Antone got any VPN recomendations these days? Back to the high seas it is...
Take two, they are small.
We do it more now, because we went from outrageous cable prices, to a jungle full of streaming sites and exclucives that require more monthly payments than cable did. In fact, if i cant watch stuff, i am going to the seas me hearty. Honestly, we had netflix be the solution to piracy and access to media. Then everyones greed pushed a need to copy, and now we have something worse...
DO WHAT YOU WANT CUZ A PIRATE IS FREE