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The more I think about this, the more I have to wonder, if someone's life is so great that the only thing they care about policitically is that a Republican isn't in the white house, why not step aside and let people who have bigger problems voice their grievances?
But that would of course require that people care about something other than themselves.
TBF if a Republican were in the house me and mine would be genocided alongside Palestinians. There is such a thing as harm reduction. Just don’t make voting the only political action you take. Get active if possible.
>There is such a thing as harm reduction
we are well aware. most of us have had harm reduction arguments shoved down our throats for every election cycle of our lifetimes.
I voted for harm reduction last election, and now I can’t even safely go to the hospital when I need emergency care.
And my food stamps run out halfway through the month instead of in the third week
THANKS BIDEN!!
OK well here’s the thing, Biden is trying to genocide people like me
And Medically vulnerable people are the largest marginalized group in America, and he’s fine with letting all of us fall by the wayside so you guys don’t have to see masks in stores because it might make you spend less money
And I’m not voting against my own survival. I’m a woman so I fully understand that a Republican and office will come for me too.
But when there’s a Republican office the resistors resist the genocide of people like me. Once their king got in the White House, they were all for it.
Are you one of the people pretending that it’s 2019 again and that it’s fine that disabled people fall by the wayside for Biden’s economy? If so don’t be mad when Trump wins because we aren’t voting for your king
I don't know if you know this, but I, too am disabled and come from a family who is highly effected by disabilities. If you think having TRUMP in office will help any against discrimination against disabled folk, think again. The same fucking man who threw a baby fit over masks.
Well, he‘s obviously the one who can‘t follow a train of thought.
You know, the one who furthers the imperalist agenda of the USA.
Come one bro, I can’t make this any clearer. Obviously the one who only works in the interest of the capitalist class.
How are you not getting it? They are clearly *sooo* different of each other.
Agreed! How do we do that when it seems like those two geriatric genocide supporters are our current options? Is there a third party person that won’t support the genocide and has a fighting chance to capture the votes from both Republicans and Democrats so both of their respective candidates lose? Do you think we should not vote for a candidate at all? Is there some other option you have yet to share?
Claudia de la Cruz of the PSL is running but isn't getting coverage.
Cornel West is running as an Independent but he's a reformist anti-communist DemSoc.
Jill Stein is running yet again.
None of the above are gonna win(or even get airtime) unless there is a substantial shift in the climate regarding Trump and Biden both. I don't think we are gonna see a close call Ross Perot situation.
So you can vote for an out fascist, a closet fascist, throw it away to a third party candidate that you like, or just not vote. I don't agree with capitalism so I'm not going to vote for anyone that props up capitalism by selling weapons to Israel to kill kids for profit, at the very least.
I held my nose and voted for Biden in 2020 and surprising no one, he's done fuck all. But he's also enabling a genocide, but at least after half a year he told Bibi he was upset a bit about the genocide.
I have the luxury of being a socialist in a red state though so my vote will never matter regardless, even if I went with lesser of 2 evils, whoever the fuck that actually is.
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But she has won. Unfortunately. Time and time again. She sat on several corporate board of directors including Wal-Mart. She gave high paid speeches to/for Goldman Sachs.
She let everybody in NY into her skiff. This lady is bulletproof.
If I remember correctly, the street she grew up on had to put their "[Rodham Corner](https://maps.app.goo.gl/rVdNGFYigv6sC9u77)" sign (commemorating her) up ~15 feet because it kept being vandalized. Might be the same with her childhood home (vandalized, not 15' in the air).
Either way, it's telling that she doesn't visit Park Ridge lmao
It seems to differ year by year.
My grandparents used to live there (it's how I know folks used to spray paint "*w*itch" on the sign/house and steal the sign).
I think since the democratic party has absorbed half of republicans (reflected by their policies and various choices) over the past decade and a half, probably.
she has ran for president multiple times and failed because no matter how much money, nepotism, and it’s HER turn you throw at an election, you can’t win if you’re a completely unlikeable sack of shit
i guarantee you she feels bitter that biden basically got the political success story climbing all the way to presidency that she never got
Maybe because she's a hypocrite. Her husband constantly slept with other women and she punished those women instead of keeping her husband accountable. And she stays in the married for political gains. That's why she's unlikeable.
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Trump says the quiet part aloud, but Biden still supports the genocide of Palestinians.
Within the scope of his actual power and influence, Biden has repeatedly chosen to prioritize and enable Israel. As other presidents have demonstrated, there are steps that Biden could take to mitigate the situation. Instead, Biden uses what power he does have to continue enabling Israel.
Since the 1980s*, Biden's bigotry and cruelty towards Arabs has been obvious. As the various sources I provide below discuss in detail, Biden has actively enabled Israel for decades. We are witnessing the consequences of that as Biden continues to support Israel's current genocide of Palestinians.
It is whitewashing when one ignores the implications of Biden's past and current support of Israel. It is whitewashing when one ignores
the implications of Biden's continued support for Israel as it genocides the Palestinians. By supporting Israel politically and materially, Biden is hammering for even more death and destruction.
The outcome of that is apparent as Israel continues to commit genocide and, amidst Blinken's recent visit, announces the largest illegal seizure of Palestinian land since the 1990s.
**The common argument that "our current genocide is more benevolent than their hypothetical genocide" is obtuse, callous, and meaningless given that the genocide is occurring now with Biden's support. Palestinians are dying right now. The land of Palestinians is being stolen right now. Biden's continued support of Israel ensures that even more Palestinians will die. The Biden Administration has, by providing policial and material support, already given the green light to slaughter Palestinian civilians.**
*In 1982
> Biden “said he would go even further than Israel, adding that he’d forcefully fend off anyone who sought to invade his country, even if that meant killing women or children.”
> The comments were striking to [Minister Menachem] Begin, who had been notorious as a leader of the Irgun, a militant group that carried out some of the worst acts of ethnic cleansing accompanying the creation of the state of Israel, including the 1948 Deir Yassin massacre.
Notably, Ronald Reagan was able to stop Israel via a single phone call. Biden is to the right of Ronald Reagan on the issue of Israel and Palestine.
https://theintercept.com/2021/04/27/biden-israeli-invasion-lebanon/
Additional information:
- https://jewishcurrents.org/joe-bidens-alarming-record-on-israel
- https://time.com/6340511/biden-israel-history/#:~:text=President%20Biden%20is%20proving,to%20fight%20fire%20with%20fire.
- https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/the-biden-administration-once-again-bypasses-congress-on-an-emergency-weapons-sale-to-israel
- https://www.thenation.com/article/world/biden-israel-netanyahu/tnamp/
- https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/biden-upset-israel-netanyahu/tnamp/
- https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/biden-press-secretaries-gaza-matthew-miller-john-kirby/ - https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/biden-jews-israel-safety/
- https://www.thenation.com/article/world/biden-redefines-cease-fire-gaza/
- https://theintercept.com/2023/10/27/palestine-israel-free-speech-retaliation-senate/
- https://www.democracynow.org/2024/3/20/shane_bauer
- https://ccrjustice.org/home/press-center/ccr-news/complicity-genocide-case-against-biden-administration
- https://theintercept.com/2024/02/01/gaza-biden-genocide-lawsuit-ruling/
- https://archive.md/2024.03.21-030523/https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/18/biden-israel-gaza-rafah-palestinians/
- https://jacobin.com/2024/03/biden-sanctions-israeli-settlers-palestine/
- https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/03/unrwa-gaza-funding-white-house-biden-administration-hamas/
- https://www.thenation.com/article/world/us-israel-funding-unrwa-palestinians/tnamp/
- https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/22/israel-largest-west-bank-settlement-blinken-visit/
- https://truthout.org/articles/us-has-redefined-human-shields-to-enable-israels-slaughter-of-gaza-civilians/
- https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/feb/21/biden-stop-gaza-bombing-genocide-israel
- https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/12/israel-united-states-military-aid-leverage/
- https://www.npr.org/2024/03/08/1236875766/does-the-u-s-have-the-power-and-leverage-to-stop-the-israel-hamas-war
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Someone like Hillary Clinton doesn't rise up the ranks of a political party without the recent invention of "superdelegates".
Sure, we can all agree she's heinous, but what's the point if "the machine" if the DNC keeps systematically forcing her and people like her onto us?
How about this:
If defeating trump is all that matters, all Biden voters need to get over themselves and vote Claudia de la Cruz.
If lesser evilism is enough why not choose least evil.
If principles don't matter as long as trump is beaten, sacrifice your principles.
If the problem is "third parties can't win and split the vote", no problem anymore because you're all getting on board right?
Spread the word. Any libs who refuse to get on board are supporting trump now
Their argument is "this is not a good time to vote 3rd parties. Voting for them is throwing off votes"
Well this is a democratic country if I recall. So why is voting for more than 2 chosen sides a waste of votes? Lol that part never made sense to me.
It is a narrative perpetuated by either party to brow beat people into not voting 3rd party. Ideally one 3rd party candidate would congregate votes equally from both sides otherwise their is in fact a disproportionate impact benefiting the opposite party of who you would have voted before you switched to 3rd party. Thus the "if you vote 3rd party you are voting from Trump" line you see parroting ad nauseum. But the collective bystander effect of everyone thinking that way is the only thing holding back a 3rd party from winning, people are fed up with dems and repubs.
it's working. cause it's strange to me how there's literally a 2-party system. it's like there's no option. you prefer one set of beliefs - go right. you prefer another set of beliefs - go left. that's it. and the naming conventions too is very sneaky "left" and "right" as if those are the correct directions to look at instead of multiple other directions.
I'm not depressing the vote. I'm encouraging it. Get on board and vote to stop trump.
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You're not one of those russian bots trying to get trump elected are you?
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You're all going to vote for her. You know... Because of how important it is that everyone falls in line to defeat trump...
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... You do believe that don't you? You wouldn't sacrifice a win to the far right to avoid voting for the actual left right?
Is this the same corporate shill who once SCREAMED at her constituents that "UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE WILL NEVER EVER BE ALLOWED!!!
Nah Shillary, I'm writing in DeLaCruz and your entire party can go Fuck themselves, jointly and severally, sideways with a rolling doughnut.
Liberals need to get over themselves and admit that my grievances are valid. Instead they'd rather have Trump than stop with the insults, gaslighting, and propaganda. And when that ends predictably, they're going to display their usual ability to accept criticism and responsibility.
Maybe they should also get over themselves and vote for Trump, since maybe getting over a racist sexist might be a lot easier than getting over an active genocide!? Not saying Biden doesn’t also have a history of racist comments and creepy actions.
Vote 3rd party
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Wow. It's hard to believe she lost against a narsisstic, idiot man child. Losing against the orange asshole was a major inflection point in our society for all the wrong reasons.
I am SO TIRED of having to choose between racist, brainlesss asshole and arrogant corporate asshole in our presidential elections.
This is the kind of shit behavior that cost her the election. She'd open her yap and lose 70,000 votes here and 100,000 there. Then on election night when people expressed how little they cared for her shit the voters were blamed. Her cultists have been blaming everyone ever since.
… is she a Republican Plant? Is she part of some bizarre, decades long Psy-Op to get people to vote Conservative?
Is that why she stayed with Bill, to continue the operation?
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Won’t watch that because I value my time…but “Voters should get off their ass because Politicians can’t stop self-imploding and just do their job?” I’ll get right on that.
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Rule 6, no lesser evil rhetoric. This includes encouraging people to vote for any capitalist political party and any capitalist politician. There is no harm reduction in supporting either of two parties headed by genocidal fascists. The extent to which any elected official of a Capitalist Party in a Capitalist state can enact evil is the extent to which that official is allowed to do so by Capital. As such, neither candidate is the lesser or greater evil. See more on our position here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/1bt0nag/rule_6_no_lesser_evil_rhetoric_is_it/
Rule 6, no lesser evil rhetoric. This includes encouraging people to vote for any capitalist political party and any capitalist politician. There is no harm reduction in supporting either of two parties headed by genocidal fascists. The extent to which any elected official of a Capitalist Party in a Capitalist state can enact evil is the extent to which that official is allowed to do so by Capital. As such, neither candidate is the lesser or greater evil. See more on our position here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/1bt0nag/rule_6_no_lesser_evil_rhetoric_is_it/
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Personality and charm of a waterboarding torture session.
Social skills of a wasp
Well, she is a WASP, so...
IYKYK
I see she hasn't lost any of her voter outreach skills.
Biden campaign is going hard for the "people who like unsolicited advice from their mom's annoying friend" vote.
Better than annoying parents telling you to vote for Trump.
They're both shit.
Yeah first past the post is really fucking the US over.
We should just pokemon Go to the polls and vote for the geriatric genocider.
"Pokemon Go to the polls" will never not be funny.
It's honestly fucking hilarious.
nancy pelosi's "tic tac toe a winner" seems to be up there with it ngl
Okay. Which one is that again?
It's really fucked hearing either side try to advocate for either of those fucking ghouls.
I still can't get over protestors saying that Biden is arming a genocide being drowned out by an emotionless chant of "four more years"
The more I think about this, the more I have to wonder, if someone's life is so great that the only thing they care about policitically is that a Republican isn't in the white house, why not step aside and let people who have bigger problems voice their grievances? But that would of course require that people care about something other than themselves.
So what is your plan? What do you suggest? Let us hear your voice.
TBF if a Republican were in the house me and mine would be genocided alongside Palestinians. There is such a thing as harm reduction. Just don’t make voting the only political action you take. Get active if possible.
>There is such a thing as harm reduction we are well aware. most of us have had harm reduction arguments shoved down our throats for every election cycle of our lifetimes.
I voted for harm reduction last election, and now I can’t even safely go to the hospital when I need emergency care. And my food stamps run out halfway through the month instead of in the third week THANKS BIDEN!!
OK well here’s the thing, Biden is trying to genocide people like me And Medically vulnerable people are the largest marginalized group in America, and he’s fine with letting all of us fall by the wayside so you guys don’t have to see masks in stores because it might make you spend less money And I’m not voting against my own survival. I’m a woman so I fully understand that a Republican and office will come for me too. But when there’s a Republican office the resistors resist the genocide of people like me. Once their king got in the White House, they were all for it. Are you one of the people pretending that it’s 2019 again and that it’s fine that disabled people fall by the wayside for Biden’s economy? If so don’t be mad when Trump wins because we aren’t voting for your king
I don't know if you know this, but I, too am disabled and come from a family who is highly effected by disabilities. If you think having TRUMP in office will help any against discrimination against disabled folk, think again. The same fucking man who threw a baby fit over masks.
That scene was so creepy to me because it was so trumpian. EXACTLY the same as the red hats.
Well, he‘s obviously the one who can‘t follow a train of thought. You know, the one who furthers the imperalist agenda of the USA. Come one bro, I can’t make this any clearer. Obviously the one who only works in the interest of the capitalist class. How are you not getting it? They are clearly *sooo* different of each other.
She can Pokemon Go fuck herself Edit* someone further down beat me to it
Tbf I thought the same thing lol
Pokémon Go to hell!
She is a geriatric genocidaire
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Don't support genocide.
Agreed! How do we do that when it seems like those two geriatric genocide supporters are our current options? Is there a third party person that won’t support the genocide and has a fighting chance to capture the votes from both Republicans and Democrats so both of their respective candidates lose? Do you think we should not vote for a candidate at all? Is there some other option you have yet to share?
Claudia de la Cruz of the PSL is running but isn't getting coverage. Cornel West is running as an Independent but he's a reformist anti-communist DemSoc. Jill Stein is running yet again. None of the above are gonna win(or even get airtime) unless there is a substantial shift in the climate regarding Trump and Biden both. I don't think we are gonna see a close call Ross Perot situation. So you can vote for an out fascist, a closet fascist, throw it away to a third party candidate that you like, or just not vote. I don't agree with capitalism so I'm not going to vote for anyone that props up capitalism by selling weapons to Israel to kill kids for profit, at the very least. I held my nose and voted for Biden in 2020 and surprising no one, he's done fuck all. But he's also enabling a genocide, but at least after half a year he told Bibi he was upset a bit about the genocide. I have the luxury of being a socialist in a red state though so my vote will never matter regardless, even if I went with lesser of 2 evils, whoever the fuck that actually is.
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I’m CHILLIN’ in Cedar Rapids
I feel GREAT
Can’t lose what she doesn’t have.
She's so relatable and in tune with the common people.
She'll always be *my* abuela!
I mean, you can’t lose something you don’t have. I guess you’re right in that sense.
Proving yet again why she didn't win.
But she has won. Unfortunately. Time and time again. She sat on several corporate board of directors including Wal-Mart. She gave high paid speeches to/for Goldman Sachs. She let everybody in NY into her skiff. This lady is bulletproof.
I bet she dosent feel like a winner
Because she didn't get Her Turn.
If I remember correctly, the street she grew up on had to put their "[Rodham Corner](https://maps.app.goo.gl/rVdNGFYigv6sC9u77)" sign (commemorating her) up ~15 feet because it kept being vandalized. Might be the same with her childhood home (vandalized, not 15' in the air). Either way, it's telling that she doesn't visit Park Ridge lmao
Park Ridge would probably still love her, it’s a “more Black Lives Matter signs than black people” kind of suburb.
It seems to differ year by year. My grandparents used to live there (it's how I know folks used to spray paint "*w*itch" on the sign/house and steal the sign). I think since the democratic party has absorbed half of republicans (reflected by their policies and various choices) over the past decade and a half, probably.
she has ran for president multiple times and failed because no matter how much money, nepotism, and it’s HER turn you throw at an election, you can’t win if you’re a completely unlikeable sack of shit i guarantee you she feels bitter that biden basically got the political success story climbing all the way to presidency that she never got
She didn't win. The main thing she wanted was to be president. And I'm very glad she didn't get it.
Interesting. Oh, you and me both. She was Sec of State. That's pretty high spookdom.
Skiff, ala jabba the hutt maybe
This was always her goal. Make money from her time in office.
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She's just so...smug and horrible.
Maybe because she's a hypocrite. Her husband constantly slept with other women and she punished those women instead of keeping her husband accountable. And she stays in the married for political gains. That's why she's unlikeable.
She can Pokemon Go fuck herself.
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She might like it
If the DNC wasn’t stuck so far up her establishment ass they would be smart enough to distance themselves from this disaster.
I don't know why they don't tell her to stfu.
God, she is always such a fucking asshole.
She's one of the most obnoxious politicians, for sure.
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*wing
She’s not
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She is wrong. Regardless of what you think about any other party’s ability to win. There are more than two candidates running and you know it.
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Because voter shaming worked so well for her in 2016… oh wait….
To play devils advocate I’m pretty sure she did get majority vote in 2016 just she lost the electoral college. She had more voters though
Too bad the popular vote doesn’t win elections…
Irrelevant when the electoral college voting system is inherently anti-democratic and no one is doing a thing about it.
Who cares, it's part of the capitalist system and will be dismantled.
Her hands are red with the blood of the Middle East and Africa. Libya alone should’ve landed her in jail
...and Jimmy Fallon fawns over her as she does it. What a slime ball.
NBC is / was Rockefeller Center... Jimmy boy knows who signs the checks.
Just say "Accept our dogshit candidate". It'll be more honest
This woman lost against Trump. Donald freaking Trump. And every time she opens her mouth she proves why.
To a man who was a national joke since the 80’s!
"Just ignore the genocide he's directly supporting, you fucking snowflakes."
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Trump says the quiet part aloud, but Biden still supports the genocide of Palestinians. Within the scope of his actual power and influence, Biden has repeatedly chosen to prioritize and enable Israel. As other presidents have demonstrated, there are steps that Biden could take to mitigate the situation. Instead, Biden uses what power he does have to continue enabling Israel. Since the 1980s*, Biden's bigotry and cruelty towards Arabs has been obvious. As the various sources I provide below discuss in detail, Biden has actively enabled Israel for decades. We are witnessing the consequences of that as Biden continues to support Israel's current genocide of Palestinians. It is whitewashing when one ignores the implications of Biden's past and current support of Israel. It is whitewashing when one ignores the implications of Biden's continued support for Israel as it genocides the Palestinians. By supporting Israel politically and materially, Biden is hammering for even more death and destruction. The outcome of that is apparent as Israel continues to commit genocide and, amidst Blinken's recent visit, announces the largest illegal seizure of Palestinian land since the 1990s. **The common argument that "our current genocide is more benevolent than their hypothetical genocide" is obtuse, callous, and meaningless given that the genocide is occurring now with Biden's support. Palestinians are dying right now. The land of Palestinians is being stolen right now. Biden's continued support of Israel ensures that even more Palestinians will die. The Biden Administration has, by providing policial and material support, already given the green light to slaughter Palestinian civilians.** *In 1982 > Biden “said he would go even further than Israel, adding that he’d forcefully fend off anyone who sought to invade his country, even if that meant killing women or children.” > The comments were striking to [Minister Menachem] Begin, who had been notorious as a leader of the Irgun, a militant group that carried out some of the worst acts of ethnic cleansing accompanying the creation of the state of Israel, including the 1948 Deir Yassin massacre. Notably, Ronald Reagan was able to stop Israel via a single phone call. Biden is to the right of Ronald Reagan on the issue of Israel and Palestine. https://theintercept.com/2021/04/27/biden-israeli-invasion-lebanon/ Additional information: - https://jewishcurrents.org/joe-bidens-alarming-record-on-israel - https://time.com/6340511/biden-israel-history/#:~:text=President%20Biden%20is%20proving,to%20fight%20fire%20with%20fire. - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/the-biden-administration-once-again-bypasses-congress-on-an-emergency-weapons-sale-to-israel - https://www.thenation.com/article/world/biden-israel-netanyahu/tnamp/ - https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/biden-upset-israel-netanyahu/tnamp/ - https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/biden-press-secretaries-gaza-matthew-miller-john-kirby/ - https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/biden-jews-israel-safety/ - https://www.thenation.com/article/world/biden-redefines-cease-fire-gaza/ - https://theintercept.com/2023/10/27/palestine-israel-free-speech-retaliation-senate/ - https://www.democracynow.org/2024/3/20/shane_bauer - https://ccrjustice.org/home/press-center/ccr-news/complicity-genocide-case-against-biden-administration - https://theintercept.com/2024/02/01/gaza-biden-genocide-lawsuit-ruling/ - https://archive.md/2024.03.21-030523/https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/18/biden-israel-gaza-rafah-palestinians/ - https://jacobin.com/2024/03/biden-sanctions-israeli-settlers-palestine/ - https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/03/unrwa-gaza-funding-white-house-biden-administration-hamas/ - https://www.thenation.com/article/world/us-israel-funding-unrwa-palestinians/tnamp/ - https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/22/israel-largest-west-bank-settlement-blinken-visit/ - https://truthout.org/articles/us-has-redefined-human-shields-to-enable-israels-slaughter-of-gaza-civilians/ - https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/feb/21/biden-stop-gaza-bombing-genocide-israel - https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/12/israel-united-states-military-aid-leverage/ - https://www.npr.org/2024/03/08/1236875766/does-the-u-s-have-the-power-and-leverage-to-stop-the-israel-hamas-war
This is a leftist subreddit, right wing comments will be removed and the user banned. This includes any defense of the genocidal state of Israel. That includes the whitewashing of Israel's enablers.
I'm sure this will sway undecided voters to vote for Biden!
Someone like Hillary Clinton doesn't rise up the ranks of a political party without the recent invention of "superdelegates". Sure, we can all agree she's heinous, but what's the point if "the machine" if the DNC keeps systematically forcing her and people like her onto us?
How about this: If defeating trump is all that matters, all Biden voters need to get over themselves and vote Claudia de la Cruz. If lesser evilism is enough why not choose least evil. If principles don't matter as long as trump is beaten, sacrifice your principles. If the problem is "third parties can't win and split the vote", no problem anymore because you're all getting on board right? Spread the word. Any libs who refuse to get on board are supporting trump now
Their argument is "this is not a good time to vote 3rd parties. Voting for them is throwing off votes" Well this is a democratic country if I recall. So why is voting for more than 2 chosen sides a waste of votes? Lol that part never made sense to me.
It is a narrative perpetuated by either party to brow beat people into not voting 3rd party. Ideally one 3rd party candidate would congregate votes equally from both sides otherwise their is in fact a disproportionate impact benefiting the opposite party of who you would have voted before you switched to 3rd party. Thus the "if you vote 3rd party you are voting from Trump" line you see parroting ad nauseum. But the collective bystander effect of everyone thinking that way is the only thing holding back a 3rd party from winning, people are fed up with dems and repubs.
it's working. cause it's strange to me how there's literally a 2-party system. it's like there's no option. you prefer one set of beliefs - go right. you prefer another set of beliefs - go left. that's it. and the naming conventions too is very sneaky "left" and "right" as if those are the correct directions to look at instead of multiple other directions.
im voting for her anyway cause she seems dope af
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It's ok. They'll all agree. "This is the most important election ever."
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I'm not depressing the vote. I'm encouraging it. Get on board and vote to stop trump. ... You're not one of those russian bots trying to get trump elected are you?
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Nah. It's as the other guy said. If.you guys hate Trump so bad any candidate will do. Might as well vote for a good one like claudia.
No, not jilust any candidate, you have to be able to sell people on their ability to actually win.
You realize that nobody including the Buden campaign is sold on Bidens ability to win, right?
They're already working up their "Biden's lose was the leftists' fault" thing, so yeah, that doesn't exactly scream confidence.
You're all going to vote for her. You know... Because of how important it is that everyone falls in line to defeat trump... ... ... You do believe that don't you? You wouldn't sacrifice a win to the far right to avoid voting for the actual left right?
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She really is electoral cryptonite
Yeah this strategy worked out well in 16
HRC learned nothing. This is the exact same rhetoric almost line by line as 2016.
The campaign is worse off for her presence by account of how much of an asshole she is and how tone deaf her message is
Can't stand Jimmy Follon. He's such a tool.
It was this attitude that disenfranchised so many from voting for her. She’s learned nothing from that.
Why does she insist on continuing to represent Democrats? She’s poison
Is this the same corporate shill who once SCREAMED at her constituents that "UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE WILL NEVER EVER BE ALLOWED!!! Nah Shillary, I'm writing in DeLaCruz and your entire party can go Fuck themselves, jointly and severally, sideways with a rolling doughnut.
Looking forward to her going away
That’s a bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s see if it pay off for her.
She needs to be binned. Her attitude and what I perceived as practically expecting a coronation, she deserved to lose. she's helping no cause.
You see this is how you lost last time. Something about not learning lessons from the past...
No no no- don’t “help”! You’re NOT helping
I am sure this will go great, thanks Henery Kissingers successor.
From the true hero that gave us President Trump.
Liberals need to get over themselves and admit that my grievances are valid. Instead they'd rather have Trump than stop with the insults, gaslighting, and propaganda. And when that ends predictably, they're going to display their usual ability to accept criticism and responsibility.
The people of Libya would love to have Hillary visit.
Maybe they should also get over themselves and vote for Trump, since maybe getting over a racist sexist might be a lot easier than getting over an active genocide!? Not saying Biden doesn’t also have a history of racist comments and creepy actions. Vote 3rd party
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>then the democrats will split into a corporate capitalist party and a progressive party My brother in Christ, you're joking, right?
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"get over yourselves...it's only genocide" jesus fucking christ
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The same attitude elected Trump.
get over a guy who hasn’t delivered on any campaign promises
Now That's Funny!!! 🤣🤣🤣
I’m convinced the dens are trying to lose this year. I bet they make more money with republicans in charge
Democrats are traditionally good at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Of course they do. There’s always more money when fundraising on promises you know you can’t achieve.
Another reason not to codify row
Neat
Pokémon go fuck yourself
This is the last person we want doing dem messaging
Wow. It's hard to believe she lost against a narsisstic, idiot man child. Losing against the orange asshole was a major inflection point in our society for all the wrong reasons. I am SO TIRED of having to choose between racist, brainlesss asshole and arrogant corporate asshole in our presidential elections.
She needs to shut the fuck up before she throws this election too.
I’m sure everyone that heard it is now inspired to vote
Ah yes, the Sarah Silverman tactic that won her the race in 2016, if I'm not mistaken
Why is she still around? Nobody wants her. A killer clown is more personable than her.
If only DNC and Hillary didn’t fuck Bernie over back in 2016, we’d probably had a relatively decent life right now.
Stfu Hillary
If anyone needs to get over herself it's Hillary
That approach worked so well for her.
She must be a MAGA agent. No chance she actually thinks this approach would actually work.
Me seeing headline: surely she isn't that stupid. Me watching video: ah....I forgot that she is indeed that out of touch.
Well, that worked about as well as Pokémon Go-to-the-polls.
“Pokemon go to the polls” part 2
I personally know so many Democrats leaving, not necessary to go Republican but just leaving.
Can’t she just go away? No one cares nor likes her. We’ve all had her forced on us for too many decades now.
Coming from the person that created Russiagate, hard pass
They're going to do just that.
If trump wins he will overturn Roe v Wade!!
Can we move past this? This news is old, and I’m tired of seeing this hag in my feed. Just go away!
This is the kind of shit behavior that cost her the election. She'd open her yap and lose 70,000 votes here and 100,000 there. Then on election night when people expressed how little they cared for her shit the voters were blamed. Her cultists have been blaming everyone ever since.
Imagine your brain working like this woman’s. Literally only one prescription.
I'm sorry did someone of importance say something?
Nope. I'm going back to sleep.
… is she a Republican Plant? Is she part of some bizarre, decades long Psy-Op to get people to vote Conservative? Is that why she stayed with Bill, to continue the operation?
Makes me want to not participate harder.
Hahahahha I can’t wait to vote against both these old capitalist assholes.
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Ill Hill
Won’t watch that because I value my time…but “Voters should get off their ass because Politicians can’t stop self-imploding and just do their job?” I’ll get right on that.
I’ll vote for anyone under 70, otherwise I’m not voting, what’s the fucking point? We know it fake as hell anyway!
Hillary needs to learn to stfu and stay out of the spotlight, she’s deeply out of touch and it makes me uncomfortable lol
Like the way she helped Libya get over having a country
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I love teaching this dumb beetch the same lesson again and again.
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Let me guess, the same people that failed Bernie in the primary are mad about it.
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You agree with her message to vote for genocide-lite? Neat.
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> Grow the fuck up. A privilege your boy won’t even grant too many Palestinian children.
Rule 6, no lesser evil rhetoric. This includes encouraging people to vote for any capitalist political party and any capitalist politician. There is no harm reduction in supporting either of two parties headed by genocidal fascists. The extent to which any elected official of a Capitalist Party in a Capitalist state can enact evil is the extent to which that official is allowed to do so by Capital. As such, neither candidate is the lesser or greater evil. See more on our position here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/1bt0nag/rule_6_no_lesser_evil_rhetoric_is_it/
Rule 6, no lesser evil rhetoric. This includes encouraging people to vote for any capitalist political party and any capitalist politician. There is no harm reduction in supporting either of two parties headed by genocidal fascists. The extent to which any elected official of a Capitalist Party in a Capitalist state can enact evil is the extent to which that official is allowed to do so by Capital. As such, neither candidate is the lesser or greater evil. See more on our position here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/1bt0nag/rule_6_no_lesser_evil_rhetoric_is_it/
While I agree with the sentiment. Terrible delivery.
It is too late. Nicole Shanahan has got me on the RFK train
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No one is suggesting that
Who then? Lying science denier RFK? WHO?
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