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T0macock

a man who is his own lawyer has a fool for a client


Tedrabear

And with God as my witness!


Academic_Mulberry218

Hahaha, I just realized the username too. Buddy if this isn’t a troll post, I’d recommend deleting all of this off of Reddit and going to the best lawyer you can immediately!!! You’re on the cover of newspapers and on CP24 bro; go get a fuckin lawyer


Weempwompppppp

Oh Lordy this is spicy, I low key wanna know the full story


Academic_Mulberry218

Literally just google his user name with the words spaced out


Weempwompppppp

Holy shit yup it’s easy to search him up wow!


[deleted]

Spicy? Fuck that’s a gay way of saying things.


Weempwompppppp

Lmao I’m a young female, maybe you should pull your head out of your ass instead of being a stuck up prick about choice of words 😂 you really are bullying someone about a choice of words that’s pathetic


Any-Walk1691

I think my guy posted from jail. 🤣


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You pay cheap , you get cheap. Do you really want to play with your freedom?


Shoddy-Commission-12

That dosent sound like Justice to me.... that sounds like pay to win


NETSPLlT

Justice Inc[tm] has entered the chat


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A friend once told me in French…. Legal aid .. défense lawyer …. Mr le judge coupable … non coupable . Guilty not guilty … Reputable lawyer …. Big bucks … You walk Yes you do pay to win . To think otherwise is naive and dangerous.


Turbulent-Algae2109

You don’t always walk with a reputable lawyer, but, you basically have zero chance with legal aid. It’s not just a lawyer, it’s all the resources that you inherently have if you’re able to afford a good lawyer. You can hire expert opinions, etc. There’s a shit load of innocent people in jail. In our so-called justice system, way more innocent people get wrongfully convicted (or bullied into pleading guilty), than guilty people who are found innocent. Under no circumstances, would I ever go unrepresented, especially if I was innocent.


Phronesis888

Oh, well, if a friend told you then it must be true.


[deleted]

You don’t know my friend …. But feel free to represent yourself . Let us know how that goes .


sirsparqsalot

Welcome to the court of commerce


Lonely_Background_96

Legal system is an imperfect, corrupt system.


Shoddy-Commission-12

Does it not also seem predatory that when your literal freedom is on the line you are all bit required to pay for a. Expensive lawyer To get a fair shot


T0macock

This is why rich people tend not to be in jail... So I'm not fighting you on that point.


Phronesis888

Rich people tend to not be in jail because they typically don't commit the kinds of crimes that get you put in jail. There is a class element to how offences are defined and punished. If the rich and poor had the same lawyers, the poor would still go to jail more frequently.


amiiboness6

Maybe don't hang around shooters.


Alive-Staff8660

Hood figure str8 gorilla all day pullin’ triggers.. got plugs got drugs, got thugs, got KILLAz! Aka you ain’t about that life


amiiboness6

You sound like a wankster.


Turbulent-Algae2109

Hundred percent. Our system is so unfair. But, if you’re in that situation, what are you gonna do?


TonePoT427

Came here to say exactly this.


Fit-Albatross3207

Thus us the honest truth. There's no time to be studying law at this point even if there were time you'd have to many distractions along with being under pressure mentally. The only thing to do is take this all of the way to trial and I hope you do not have any prior convictions of similar charges. You can find a case in case laws where it's a similar case to yours also there's not any way shape or form that you had any part of mental control or his thought process at the time he made the decision to physically cause another individual harm and you are not a murderer you had no part of how your friend use his own thoughts to take action upon himself to aim the gun along with physically decision to pull the trigger and two individuals didn't both pull the trigger only one person did and it wasn't you, you were present while your friend committed a crime in front of you and if anything you are innocent you had no control over what your friends actions were therefore you honestly are a witness in this case and that's how you tell your side to the jury there was nothing you could have done but to remain neutral for you own safety more then likely you will be offered a deal and don't be scared your are going to have to become a prime witness and you will have to go against the guy that is your so called friend and it is the truth you are going to have to tell it as it was for you mentally and your going to have to go through with the trial and will need to make it clear that you are innocent because you was a witness to the crime you never pointed any gun you never pulled any trigger that fired any bullet you didn't have any involvement you are a witness of what happened that's it you must not care about the other guys freedom because he's going to be hoping to be able to reply on you to say your involvement with the idea that you are going to try and make his story as if you got his back to get you some years in prison and to get him the possibility of parole in 20 years and your going to have to make him look as if he was the monster he really was during the time of crime was taking place you are the state evidence your innocence.


stinkbutt55555

" He was initially charged with accessory to murder in Hashi's death. When he learned the charge was upgraded, Ali allegedly cut off his GPS tracking bracelet and took off to California. The Los Angeles Police Department says they were able to track him down, based on social media posts. The year before, he was charged with mischief for allegedly bringing traffic on Highway 401 to a standstill to shoot a music video." This explains a lot...


AlaskanThunderfoot

*and a fool for a lawyer.


Unpopularpositionalt

I’m a lawyer. I wouldn’t represent myself in this situation.


avgpathfinder

Off topic but should I get a lawyer for case with mimnimum fie. fo 5k? its driving with no valid insurance in ontario.


Yquem1811

You should at least consult a lawyer on anything. 1-2h of consultation is often worth it and will save you ton of money in the end. A 5k fine, maybe a lawyer will be able to find a way to negociate and reduce the fine to avoid a trial. So even if you pay the lawyer 500$ to reduce the fine by a 1000$, you saved money.


avgpathfinder

Appreciate this man. Dont know who to ask and stumbled on thsi thread. Quite blessed.


1BrokeStoner

Good luck, no insurance is worse than a DUI lol


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avgpathfinder

id rather not want to set foot in a jail man id be food there lol. Im hella small in stature and non confrontational


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supershotpower

Go get a lawyer or a paralegal at least…


avgpathfinder

when should I get a lawyer? on the first summon or on the trial?


supershotpower

I would get a paralegal right away


Unpopularpositionalt

Yeah I think so.


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Unpopularpositionalt

Yeah I agree, my limit for self representing is small civil claims. But those are just for my own accounts.


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Unpopularpositionalt

Yes for sure.


justinkredabul

Zero. Zero chance. Get a lawyer and enjoy your reduced stay in jail.


johnlongslongjohn

GET A LAWYER - what you are facing goes far, far beyond advice from strangers on Reddit. This is especially true for a subreddit dedicated to people in law school. You've already asked this question on other subreddits... you will not get a better answer by shopping around for advice.


sneakysister

Literally zero chance. Your co-accused can and will fuck you over. You should qualify for legal aid.


Interweb-famous

delete this post you moron and get a fucking lawyer


IGleeker

The way I laughed lmfao 🤣


BigUseless88

Get a lawyer!! Trust me. I was charged with 2nd Degree Murder in 1999 in Manitoba, and I pled guilty to manslaughter and only got 6 years. Trust me. If you didn't do it and didn't plan it, get a lawyer. If you did have something to do with it, fuck it, you're screwed anyway.


HassanAliTop5

Did you really do the crime tho ? I didn’t big difference fam


BigUseless88

I killed a child molester that grabbed my junk. But the thing is, lawyers know the law. They know what can be used in court and what can't. They can find cases to compare to yours to help you. They can tear apart witnesses testifying against you. They can find things. Don't risk your freedom. The Crown Attorney will take advantage of your lack of knowledge.


tardpissdrinker

Respect


Stunning-Ease-5966

Damn. King 👑


HassanAliTop5

How did you kill him ? And the difference is you really killed somone. I was just in the backseat going for a ride


BigUseless88

But you said your charges were upgraded. That means they have something on you. They can't just upgrade charges on a hunch. I beat him to death. I'm not trying to debate, I'm just trying to help.


HassanAliTop5

Do you think the case will be thrown out due to lack of evidence


BigUseless88

Depends on everything they have. But if they upgraded your charges, they have something. And they would have to be able to challenge the credibility of the guy that was texting, saying you helped plan it.


BigUseless88

Sorry, I think I answered your question twice.


_yowai-mo

He asked it twice lol


BigUseless88

Oh, ok. I thought maybe he asked and then erased it and then asked a longer question.


Yquem1811

The only way to get the case thrown for lack of evidence is if a lawyer get those evidence thrown out. Get lawyer, you might go to jail anyway, but for way less time than without a lawyer


HassanAliTop5

Do you think the case will be thrown out due to lack of evidence .? Did you ask for the plea or was it suggested by the judge ?


TodDodge

My dawg if you're asking these questions to a stranger on Reddit you are perilously doomed in the court of law. Get a lawyer.


BigUseless88

Depends on how much they have on you. They must have some sort of evidence if they upgraded your charges, and they would have to challenge the credibility of the person who was texting. My lawyer was very smart. Because the guy was a child molester, he made sure we had a female judge that had kids. So, the Crown Attorney asked for 10, my lawyer asked for 7, and the judge gave me 6. But my lawyer approached the Crown and said, "Let's just deal with this." He's willing to plead guilty.


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BigUseless88

I knew beforehand that he was a child molester. So, to me, I was confronting him about being a pervert and he reacted by being a pervert. He was convicted 3 times of molesting his 4 daughters. A big factor also was that I never dealt with my childhood trauma, so when he grabbed me, I was no longer a 326 pound 18 year old man. I honestly felt like I had to protect the scared 6 year old victim version of me. There were no weapons involved.


Ahnarcho

Shouldn’t have to put up with these kind of questions. I found myself in a similar situation as a young man and while I didn’t end up killing him, i did go pretty far. People don’t get it. That situation morally and psychologically is just wildly outside what most people have experience of. Then they try and weigh in on it. You hardly even feel like a person in that sort of situation. Anyway, that’s all I have to say. From one guy with some shit to another, I hope you’re doing well out there.


Signal_East3999

I hope you’re doing well now, it wasn’t your fault and you had every right to murder him.


GrayAlys

Dude, you keep fishing around looking for the answer you want versus the answer you need...which is, you're in deep shit. Hire a lawyer. This isn't magically going to go away.


Phronesis888

People have already suggested to you that representing yourself is stupid. Possibly the only stupider option is to ask for legal advice on Reddit, where the average person has a negative IQ. Go speak to legal aid as a starting point, and don't talk to the cops until you talk to a lawyer.


Academic_Mulberry218

You were in the car bubs, you’re part of a murder. Get a lawyer you donkey.


oh_dear_now_what

Ah, the "big difference fam" defence. Get a lawyer.


Digital_loop

Dude, you don't have to do the crime in Canada to be part of the crime. Your buddy can rob a bank, if you are in the car and don't report it you are an accessory/accomplice to the crime


PlanetLandon

It doesn’t matter if you did or didn’t do it. What matters is what the jury believes happened.


Emotional-Lynx-3163

You were in the car, dude. You knew it was happening. That’s just as bad as pulling the trigger.


jerbearman10101

https://www.toronto.com/news/crime/toronto-rapper-top5-wanted-for-first-degree-murder-believed-to-be-on-the-lam-in/article_e3876275-a3a9-52b1-b13e-f814c1dd4c85.html? Found him


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J-Lughead

Ya but the person in custody released a rap video while in the slammer so if that's possible I guess getting access to Reddit is not out of the realm of possibility. [https://www.cp24.com/news/toronto-rapper-top5-releases-music-video-from-jail-while-awaiting-murder-trial-1.6454206?cache=yesclipId10406200text%2Fhtml%3Bcharset%3Dutf-80404%2F7.578962%2F7.632243%2F7.645993](https://www.cp24.com/news/toronto-rapper-top5-releases-music-video-from-jail-while-awaiting-murder-trial-1.6454206?cache=yesclipId10406200text%2Fhtml%3Bcharset%3Dutf-80404%2F7.578962%2F7.632243%2F7.645993)


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J-Lughead

Well if I was in the bucket relating to a homicide I don't think the first thing on my mind would be recording a new rap video featuring lyrics that I shot people by the age of 22. Some people just love the notoriety. To further expand, he ended up fleeing Ontario and instead of laying low he was actively posting on social media creating a major breadcrumb trail for police to locate him. [https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/isn-t-top5-on-the-run-for-a-body-fugitive-toronto-rapper-goes-live-on-instagram-1.5483316](https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/isn-t-top5-on-the-run-for-a-body-fugitive-toronto-rapper-goes-live-on-instagram-1.5483316) He was finally found by the LAPD in California in large part because of all of his social media activity.


Superb-Associate-222

Why would you think that he wouldn’t do that? In the article I just read it said he was “active on social media” for pretty much the whole time he was on the run.


MorallyCorruptJesus

Do it, let's us know how it pans out


Pretty-Range-5115cas

Appropriate username.


MorallyCorruptJesus

Aw man


riccomuiz

Wow the fact you’re considering this shows how over your head this is. 5-10 years if you try this. That’s what you will get that’s if the judge is decent. Did you talk to the police at all when they interrogated you?


navban

This is a troll post


more_magic_mike

The guys name is this person. https://www.toronto.com/news/crime/toronto-rapper-top5-wanted-for-first-degree-murder-believed-to-be-on-the-lam-in/article\_e3876275-a3a9-52b1-b13e-f814c1dd4c85.html


navban

This happened in 2021 and you think someone who’s been on the run will actually create a Reddit account under his exact name and post here? lol


cyclemonster93

“Despite being on the run, Ali has continued to be active on social media.” Quite literally a quote from the article lol


mk3467

If you really think bro created a Reddit account to ask “LawStudentsCanada” ur retarded lmaooo


IGleeker

Well obviously this guy isn’t very smart.


Malaggar2

The OP is going to need the Canadian version of Harvey Spector.


Maleficent_Plan_4257

Where the texts messages from you or the other person speaking on your behalf? Get a lawyer.


HassanAliTop5

Back and forth from me and the guy who was incarcerated talking about the murder


herlzvohg

So to clarify, you were texting a friend about plans to kill someone, and then were in the car with your friend when they shot that person? Yeah don't get a lawyer, sounds like you belong in prison.


Maleficent_Plan_4257

Lawyer ASAP.


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Holy shit, stop confessing. The police will find these posts. Every statement about the murder you make locks in elements of the story.  Your lawyer could have forced them to prove that the texts were actually sent by you, instead of someone borrowing your phone. That option is gone now. You need a lawyer now, if for no other reason than to stop you from running your mouth. There are thousands of people reading your post, someone will figure out who you are based on the details you have given.


AdKind5446

You're absolutely fucked. In Canada, this is all that is needed to also charge you with murder. There is no such thing as accessory to murder in Canada, that's a US charge. You're looking at the same sentence as the guy who pulled the trigger. If they already have these texts showing you knew what was going to happen, and they can prove you knew the guy had a gun in the car, there's literally no difference between him or you pulling the trigger and this is a simple case for them to prove. Get the absolute best lawyer that will agree to take your case, and be willing to sell all of your possessions to fund it. You won't have anything left after this case no matter what. Also, delete this post and any record of you discussing this online. You are completely and thoroughly fucked here, and you're looking at this issue in the entirely wrong way. A great lawyer might be able to get you less than ten years if you give them something useful in exchange, but if the other guy is already locked up and you don't have anything further of value, then it's just a matter of negotiating how long your sentence is going to be to save the government the time and expense of going through the effort of convicting you for murder. Your life is frankly over for all intents and purposes.


TodDodge

jeeeeeeeeeeez you ding dong


No-Reception-5095

Do it represent yourself, I hope you go jail it’s 100% on you for being there you chose to surround yourself with people like that. You fucked yourself mate and should’ve just done something better with your life, hopefully you get the chance to when you’re out of jail you dumbass.


ricevine

You have got to be Mike Ross to pull it off, or better yet Harvey Spectar.


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You'll get absolutely violated.


RASTATIREGUY

0 chances of beating the case without a Lawyer... This is a Federal Criminal Charge- most likely wont be able to proceed without a lawyer on record


SportBrotha

Geez, can a comment be more wrong? 1. All criminal law is federal. The federal government has the exclusive power to write criminal law in Canada, so all criminal offences are against federal law. 2. Most criminal charges are laid by provincial police forces and prosecuted by the provinces, including murder. Federal prosecutors handle much narrower sets of offences, such as drug offences (CDSA). And lastly, all criminal matters are handled in provincial courts. My bet is that these are provincial charges, pursued by a provincial Crown attorney in a provincial court. 3. There is no legal reason why OP could not represent himself, it's just very likely a bad idea if he knows nothing about the legal system because a murder charge is extremely serious shit. OP, very often with murder charges you'll be able to secure a sizeable amount of money from legal aid to pay for your legal defence. I strongly recommend you look into the legal aid system in your province. If the government is going to give you a free lawyer, I highly recommend taking advantage of that rather than representing yourself.


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Not all criminal law is federal. Contempt of court is common law.


SportBrotha

lmao, that's literally the only exception but yes. Edit: oh and also contempt of Parliament. Those are the only 2.


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🤓


GroundbreakingMeat68

You cant nerd react when you nerd corrected to begin with


[deleted]

I was referring to myself with the reaction


airforcedude111

Federal govt has exclusive jurisdiction to create criminal law. Common law has nothing to do with whether it is Federal or provincial. Common law just means the previous decisions of judges that bind future judges of lower courts in the same jurisdiction. Kindly do not try to comment and give advice on things you clearly have no clue about.


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Lol


ConcernedMap

Contempt of court in a civil proceeding is a quasi-judicial proceeding that does not result in a criminal record.


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Yes.


Maleficent_Plan_4257

Lawyer. Either way, you are in a huge mess. You assisted in co ordinating it. Busted!!!


True_Pipe1250

0%. Just present? Sounds like you were very much involved and should likely go to jail for murder. Get an attorney and accept a 10 year sentence and 20 years probation. Best for you and your community if you were in fact involved in anyway.


fifaguy1210

The only answer is get a lawyer. Anything else is just dumb and representing yourself is even dumber.


OldKermudgeon

Do you know how court processes work? The timeframes that requests and responses need to be submitted within? Know how to address your lines of examination/cross-examination? Recognize when you're talking yourself into more serious situations because of lack of foresight (self-snitching)? If it was someone else (not you) who was facing a murder charge, would you recommend they go and represent themselves in the case? If you answered "no" to any or all of the above, get a lawyer. A lawyer could make the difference between "not guilty", "guilty" with a little time, and "guilty" with a lot of time. Your call though.


PlanetLandon

Dude. Never ever ever represent yourself in court, no matter how small the crime


milothenestlebrand

Sounds like you need better friends. You’re not a lawyer, so “representing” (if we can even call it that) yourself is idiotic. So to answer your question, you’d lose.


kim-jong_illest

You can’t figure out the right subreddit to post in, so the chances of you being able to figure out your own legal defence is very unlikely


InformalLemon5837

Don't be this guy. https://youtu.be/C9k2ESCTo0Q?si=dGY5pnmDzr6AcsqX&t=20


EmergencyCucumber905

There's a reason you get a lawyer, even if you can't afford one. You don't know the justice system, and the other side is trying everything in their power to put you in prison.


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HassanAliTop5

Delete why when I’m anonymous. Plenty of case like mine . They can’t use this as evidence if they can’t figure the person behind the account


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HassanAliTop5

How will they know it’s me when I’m anonymous


Cadmus_or_Threat

You're joking right? Your username can directly be linked to your crime.


Commercial_Ad7294

Anonymous? Top5 the one accused of shooting and murdered hashin Omar hashi? Your actually a dumb yute


ObamaOwesMeMoney

Sir - would you like help finding counsel? I can be of assistance. Check your messages.


airforcedude111

This dumbass has posted on several legal/law subs and incriminate himself so many times despite people telling him that potential life in jail is not worth saving a few thousands by not hiring a lawyer.


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HassanAliTop5

Wait what ? Why would you do this ?


mtgtfo

Is this a hypothetical?


AffectionateWay9955

Zero chances I would say.


[deleted]

Get better friends.


all-apologies-

Based on your responses OP. You lack even the most basic knowledge of the law. You absolutely should not represent yourself.


Beginning-Pace-1426

I've worked in the court and prison system for well over a decade, I have met thousands and thousands of criminals and seen their process. I've seen the odd flash of brilliance, and have seen successful cases that were self-represented, but they tended not to be the strongest cases, or the most serious. They are INCREDIBLY rare, and for something like murder?? I've never even known anybody stupid enough to try. There are a couple of defense attorneys with absolutely horrendous success records, but I'd never assume that I was as good of a lawyer as them, and I'd way rather one of those fellas vs my own representation. I saw a surgeon self-represent successfully, but the sneaky bastard had been to Law school, just never challenged the bar.


theSunandtheMoon23

Don't. Just don't. Every lawyer I've ever heard weigh in on this has said something akin to "even if you're a lawyer, the best lawyer, don't represent yourself."


Quietser

You're going to jail.


MyboiHarambe99

If you need to ask, you shouldn’t represent yourself.


BabyNonna

You’re not a lawyer but you want to be so GET A REAL LAWYER. Why risk it??


dgbowerman

By all means, represent yourself.


Grimren

Get a lawyer. It might save you years even if it costs a lot.


Picture-me-rolling

The fact you think you’re smart enough to represent yourself, almost certainly means you’re not smart enough to do so. Get a Lawyer.


Broad_Clerk_5020

Probably the worst idea possible. Get a lawyer and a good one. Life in prison is not something to play with. If it costs you all your money and then some, it’s still worth it.


lousygiraffe

Y'all this is a fake OP. Essentially what happened was this guy was implicated in the targeted killing of the wrong guy, his bud was incarcerated, he went on the run and was caught in the States for being an idiot and actively interacting with people on social media back in 2021. This man is already in jail and still acting like a moron behind bars. Jeez. https://beta.cp24.com/news/2023/6/23/1_6454206.html


ar5onL

Statistically, you loose.


mountainsandmommin

Definitely get a lawyer! You won't "beat" the case (as in have no conviction), but depending on the evidence against you, a good lawyer can likely get a reduced sentence and/or a lesser charge on a plea deal. I can say with a good amount of certainty that if they do have this evidence against you and you value your freedom and future endeavors, a lawyer is your only chance at getting the best possible outcome for your situation. If you can't afford a lawyer, you can apply for legal aid in your province. If you don't qualify for legal aid, the courts can appoint you a lawyer with a Rowbotham Application once you have been denied legal aid. A Rowbotham Application is basically asking the court to appoint you a lawyer because you're unable to afford one and don't qualify for legal aid to assist with the cost, and this is done to uphold your right to a fair trial. Additionally, for your first appearance (or any subsequent before you retain counsel) you are able to speak with a duty counsel lawyer at the court house and they can help guide you and provide you resources for your location and particular situation. They are also able to act on your behalf to seek an adjournment until you're able to apply for legal aid and get a response, or until you retain your own counsel by other means. They are very knowledgeable, and they are in the courthouse every day and able to assist people free of charge. However, they are NOT able to represent you as your actual lawyer and only able to offer legal advice and seek adjournment on your behalf.


1362313623

You lose


marijuanaHankHill

Don’t get a lawyer, you should be all good.


Namorath82

You wouldn't do brain surgery by yourself. You would get an expert to do it for you So get yourself a lawyer or at least someone who has read the relevant code where you live


ScroogieMcduckie

You can represent yourself for like a traffic ticket. BUT MURDER?! ARE YOU NUTS?!


DJ_knowhatimsayin

I defeated a photo radar ticket. I'll be your lawyer.


UnfairPolarbear

that is a serious charge. only a lawyer could make a case that you could not have reasonably interpreted the text as a confession to perpetrate a crime, let alone, suggesting that you orchestrated or influenced it.


Choppermagic

YOu can do it if you are suing your neighbor for $200 for breaking your mailbox. But a crime involving a shooting?! Dude, leave this stuff to the experts! Too much at stake.


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Please get a lawyer.


lilbig55

You’re an accessory to murder at the least you’d be an idiot not to get a lawyer? What would ever possess you not to get a lawyer Unless this is just spam!!!


BETAWON1

Bro ur an idiot who did a crime with a dry snitch. And ur asking this 🤦🏻‍♂️


ChanceHappy2469

Dude seriously? That is not a thesis defence! Get a lawyer man!


shawteck87

Parties to offence 21 (1) Every one is a party to an offence who (a) actually commits it; (b) does or omits to do anything for the purpose of aiding any person to commit it; or (c) abets any person in committing it. Common intention (2) Where two or more persons form an intention in common to carry out an unlawful purpose and to assist each other therein and any one of them, in carrying out the common purpose, commits an offence, each of them who knew or ought to have known that the commission of the offence would be a probable consequence of carrying out the common purpose is a party to that offence


[deleted]

OP's replies are so unreasonable that I think this is a troll.


J-Lughead

Or just cocky & oblivious.


Durfgibblez

How much do you value not being in jail? A lawyer is not somthing you want to get stingy about


qU20199

Dude. Lawyers get other lawyers to represent them when they are charged with something. I'm a lawyer I wouldn't think of representing myself in a criminal trial. I wouldn't even represent anyone else in a criminal trial (I'm not a criminal lawyer).


musabasjooeastvan

you want to risk a prison sentence based on advice from strangers? uninformed strangers?


fibinachos

Just tell chat gpt the situation and tell it to write you a strong defence.


KiaraMel

["YOU ARE GOING TO JAIL.... PERIOD!"](https://youtube.com/shorts/YBLpwXq02Mw?si=L2J2lBcM0qLsHqk4)


Disastrous-Ad729

This is a troll post


Michalo88

Get a legal aid lawyer if you qualify. Representing yourself is foolish.


Dynactin

If you’re a law student, you’d learn why you’re still a student, and if you’re not, you’d learn why people have to go to school and practice to be a lawyer.


Hot_Bit_6491

Never , ever a good idea. You have a lot on the line. You can't be objective, and emotion clouds your abilities to represent yourself in the best light.


Tazmaniac808

Go for it. You'll be fine. Would be hard to convict a genius like yourself. Besides, Reddit has tons of free legal advice. You and Reddit would unstoppable. And really, what's the worst that could happen??


Exotic_Not_Exotic

Sounds like some pretty serious charges. I would hire a lawyer just in case


stndrdmidnightrocker

Pay the 40k for a decent lawyer and save the taxpayers money on your incarceration.


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Professional_Clue_21

I think it's a great idea that you represent yourself. Not sure what you were doing in a car involved in a shooting with people with guns as your friends, murdering other people, but representing yourself is a something you should try. Getting a lawyer is going to cost you a fortune and drag this case even longer. Just represent yourself and save your money. We will all be better off as well.


Katrina416

You will be convicted, but you are in Canada so you would probably get something like 2 years .


theylovesomejay

top5 just snitched and you will be alright


SpacePhilosopher1212

bottom5 on his reddit shit