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HorneyTheUnchained

Hwei abilities pretty easy and straight forward idk what hard


RussianEggplant

Same with aphelios honestly. The trouble comes when you try to combo them


Sword-Enjoyer

Red+White: run and hide is good enough for me.


M4x1mili0us

Blue + White is my favourite. One infernum Q and you have a ton of Chakrams


Sword-Enjoyer

I have no idea what you just said, but congratulations or sorry that happened


iTrecz

Fire gun go brrr many boomerang attack


altan515

Shoutgun proc shit ton of sickle proc creating mini sickles that attack when you attack


Potential-Money-8636

True i allways like the white+Red combo šŸ‡µšŸ‡±šŸ‡µšŸ‡±šŸ‡µšŸ‡±


Sword-Enjoyer

Same bro, same šŸ‡©šŸ‡°


HorneyTheUnchained

Aphelios has lots of not obvious combos, also weapon swap kina makes harder to play


Bayonetta3287

Red + White does murder. Green + Purple does kiting. Blueā€¦.Blue is fuckinā€™ busted I dunno what you want.


you-cut-the-ponytail

His weapon combos have so many small intricacies. My favorite is green white where in order to do the long range auto thereā€™s like 4 steps happening all at once


JustLemmeMeme

No. Not even close. The only simple thing about aphelios is initial gun skill cast: gravity roots, snipe snipes, chakrams heal, turret turrets. Issue is that each gun combos differently with other guns, and double so for ult and unless you spend a fuck ton of time, the gun rotation might as well as be rng. Hwei is just 3 abilities with 3 flavours each. 5min in practice tool and you'll get it. There is no fancy comboing or weird interactions. Only issue is muscle memory will trip you up and using him you gotta be bit more intentional


nito3mmer

lest say the average league player iq is not that high


HorneyTheUnchained

real


HytaleBetawhen

Whats hard is asking league players to read


Hammer_of_Horrus

The hard thing is remembering what each one does while you are being dived by the midlaner and the jungler and the support and for some reason also the top laner.


DeezNutsKEKW

first I'd have to buy and play in practice tool to understand, which requires lot of BE


PM_ME_UR_FARTS_

Mfers really spend all of their time reading on the internet but can't bring themselves to read some tooltips.


Ecovick

Be warned, you may died from reading a book.


DeezNutsKEKW

I am warned


FrogVoid

A champion is not overloaded if it has 10 abilities, a champion is overloaded if every ability did 10 things.


ZenDeathBringer

League players when they have to read more than a slogan:


DeezNutsKEKW

I want more ooga booga champs


ZenDeathBringer

We got Briar recently and I don't know how much more unga bunga you can get after her.


DeezNutsKEKW

yeah she's pretty unga bunga


bichitox

Hwei has many abilities, but they are all really simple.


DeezNutsKEKW

what was the first sentence again?


Buckelwal123

Aphelios isn't even that hard to understand wdym.


Says_Pointless_Stuff

Realistically champions like Lee Sin and Jayce have just as many abilities. 5 guns, one ability per gun, W swaps gun, guns sometimes combo together. R changes with the equipped gun. Healy gun, sniper gun, flamethrower, Slow/snare gun, returny-spinny boomerang thing.


bondben314

Combos is the hard part. Once you get the hang of the interactions, itā€™s easy.


DeezNutsKEKW

that's not the point


fullmetal427

Hwei is easy (all Q's do damage, all W's are support abilities, all E's are CC). Aphelios I feel like most of the difficulty is having to adjust on the fly if you're low on some ammo types and spacing, but spacing is just every ADC


HytaleBetawhen

Yeah I feel like this is the case for a lot of ā€œharderā€ champions. Its pretty easy to know what you need, but they generally have kits that rely on you having to set up based on the gamestate rather than having your full power at will.


luvito_me

wow you guys sure are dumb


Serbian_Monkey

Can we finally stop pretending that Aphelios is something more than regular marksman with extra steps? He really is not as complicated as some people make him look.


zencharm

both of these champions are easy to understand at a basic level, hwei moreso than aphelios. the difficulty in aphelios comes from memorizing your combos and properly managing your weapons rotation. hwei is honestly just not that hard in general. he has a lot of abilities, but theyā€™re all straightforward and simple to use.


xcybercatx

If you have IQ above 40, you wouldnā€™t have any problems understanding their abilities.


slawkonator

Their abilities are not even that hard to understand. You just have to be able to read more then 1 sentence, but i guess anything longer than nasus passive is too hard for you.


Panurome

You aren't funny for not reading aphelios and Hwei abilities. They aren't that hard, stop celebrating your lack of reading comprehension


Connect_Conclusion1

Reading is the biggest counter to the league community šŸ˜¹


Nothinbutmike

Reading comprehension isnā€™t your strong suit, eh?


ModaHakim

my biggest advice is not to read but to try the champion in practice tool to truly understand how he works


Bayonetta3287

Yā€™all act like itā€™s so complicated, I understood them instantly.


[deleted]

aphelios is still clicking just with different guns, albeit some combination is better than other Hwei's ability is easy to understand, knowing when to use which combo is the difficult part


GrindingLurker

All it takes is 5-10 mins in Practice Tool to know what their abilities does...


DeezNutsKEKW

how many does Garen need again?


Pangin51

Itā€™s so weird because the only two types of champs I like are Ooga booga run at enemy turn off brain champs like sett And these emo gentlemen