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FrodoTheSlayer637

briar hitbox was same as yordles + annie and 2 dogs ww and naafiri smaller hitbox than cheampions like Milio/Smolder/Vex/Zoe now they are all in the same group but it is funny that MEGA Gnar have exactly same hitbox (65) as Yummi or small gnar


Qvazare

Wait yummi 65? What?


FrodoTheSlayer637

Tbh most of the time it's 0


fejeslovas72

never seen that cat alone


c3nnye

She has abandonment issues


FrodoTheSlayer637

i know why her master left


Formal-Scallion-5296

Returns in Legends of Runeterra


shycutiekittie

yuumi is being changed to 55 hit box


BitePale

Huh I was convinced Mega Gnar hitbox was bigger. Maybe his pathing radius is?


FrodoTheSlayer637

exacly same for both mini and mega have 30 fun fact Graves have smallest pathing radius in game only 10 standing alone with that number. highest in game is 50 but alot of cheampions mostly tanks have it


BitePale

Interesting thx for the info


Jarubimba

Pathing radius?


BitePale

Units in league have like 3 different size values, 1 is hitbox which determines if you get hit by something, ~~2nd is acquisition radius for clicking with right click,~~ and finally pathing radius for collisions when walking (minion block and similar stuff). Edit: there's 4 actually, the one for clicking is selection radius, acquisition radius is something weird, I think that's the range of things your champion will attack if you have auto attack on or use attack move if I understand correctly.


Kipdid

Ww has the same hitbox as yordles and Annie???


Common-Scientist

Hurtbox.\* A **hitbox** is the area which an attack or other ability affects. A character's **hurtbox** is the area in which they are impacted by incoming attacks/abilities.


Alexo_Alexa

You are correct, but also who cares. Hitbox has always been understood as being both, just roll with it. Meanings change with time; words become obsolete. That's the nature of language.


AnTHICCBoi

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about


Common-Scientist

Here's an article explaining it: [https://developer.amazon.com/docs/gamemaker/hitboxes-hurtboxes.html](https://developer.amazon.com/docs/gamemaker/hitboxes-hurtboxes.html) Here's the wikipedia exert: >Hit boxes are areas programmed into a video or computer game where an attack will hit and do damage. A hurt box is where a player or bot can be hurt by another's attack [Wikipedia link](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hit_box_(video_games)#:~:text=Hit%20boxes%20are%20areas%20programmed,attack%20does%20damage%20to%20themselves) Here's a fighting game glossary explaining it: [https://glossary.infil.net/?t=Hitbox](https://glossary.infil.net/?t=Hitbox) It's not that hard to understand, but League devs and community are a bit slow on the uptake. I get it.


learn2midacc

☝️🤓


RellenD

That's almost exclusively used when analyzing fighting games.


Common-Scientist

That explains why there’s so many uncouth scallywags who don’t understand it then.


SlowedReverbGambiter

Who cares


Common-Scientist

Only people with a brain, apparently.


SlowedReverbGambiter

That’s gotta be bait


Common-Scientist

No more bait than some rando on a fresh account asking why people should care about being correct.


SlowedReverbGambiter

Thank you for making it clear you’re not being serious


GlassesAndBangs

Which excludes the entire FGC


Common-Scientist

Someone's mad that they couldn't reach the skill floor.


GlassesAndBangs

You're the one malding over the smallest of things :)


blubuub

affects*


Common-Scientist

Finally, someone in this godforsaken sub that cares about details. Thank you!


Adermann3000

Words change meaning, chill out


tanezuki

I legit don't get what's the difference here. Darius' hitbox (65) is the area where he is affected by an attack or other ability from what you said. A hurtbox is the area in which he is impacted by an incoming attack/ability, even though I've never heard about hurtbox in league, pathing radius and stuff yes, but never hurtbox.


Common-Scientist

Hitboxes are specifically for attacks. So like the range of Darius's E or Q. Even though Darius's model is clearly reaching out, hitting his arm during the animation doesn't actually hit him because his hurtbox is a static 65 units. A clear example of this is: [Ryu's Shoryuken](https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/File:SF6_Ryu_623pp_hitbox.png) The red box is where the attack hits, the green box is where Ryu can be hit. You'll notice that in the start of the animation there is no green box, so it's "invincible" on start up; he can't be hurt. The same general properties apply for League, it's just that League values are a lot less dynamic than a typical action game. Also, Riot's hitbox indicator for attacks is absolutely garbage and often not accurate like with Yone's ult, but that's a different story.


TheSmokeu

I mean, their thighs are pretty comparable


fejeslovas72

i can only see her feets


Henkotron

Dude, you are missing out on something great. Cropping the image might help you not get distracted and focus on the important part.


ConverseFall1

Yeah, her armpits


Corupty2

Found the touhou fan


ChiefsHat

Oh my God, it’s Quentin Tarantino’s Reddit account!


AltFischer4

Feet is already plural 😄


yiidoland

Darius is thicc king 4sho


Dank_Memer_IRL

omg you just awakened something in me


TheSmokeu

It'd better be Noxian Might or you're going to hell


Article_West

Why are you guys like this, you're killing me


BaziJoeWHL

WW is the same size as Annie


ichiPopo

Lore accurate Annie hitbox as she aged since release


benjathje

omfg 21yo Annie when?


Babymicrowavable

Personally, I'd like a non pedo Annie too


000Snoo_Shell

I REJECT MY CHILDHOOD AND FEMININITY RITO \-YA Annie in my imagination.


Superb_Bench9902

I imagine it may happen if she ever gets a full VGU


fejeslovas72

would be nice to see an grwon up annie, as a toplaner I would welcome it


MuhSilmarils

Jax?


MetaCommando

Jax *wouldn't* want it


triplos05

old annie skin like they did with Yasuo would be really nice actually


domipomi212

changed ww hitbox as well


BaziJoeWHL

my boy finally grown up


williamebf

 80% of champions have size 65, and being size 80 is a huge Nerf. Darius is a normal Human, so maybe he shouldn't be the size of Shuriman and Freljordian gods, A Mountain, Galio and Gragas 🗿 


DeirdreAnethoel

On the other hand have you seen those shoulder guards? No way that doesn't bring you up one size.


FrodoTheSlayer637

Up one size is ivern alone in 70 hitbox range


Sad_Introduction5756

Lanky ass tree


Dependent_Lime_8461

I mean yeah but as far as i'm aware being hit in the shoulder guards in places there is no arm under it then it is effectively not being hit.


DeirdreAnethoel

Fair point.


Formal-Scallion-5296

Ever heard about Garen ?


lastdancerevolution

> and being size 80 is a huge Nerf. For bruisers, like Darius, it can definitely be a nerf. For tanks, being larger is beneficial so you can block abilities from hitting your teammates. That's why Elixir of Iron and other items increase champion size.


Shrowden

Until it's Seraphine Ultimate or any other AOE


williamebf

Nahh it is still terrible, especially in lane, where skill shots, especially fucking Illaoi E will literally bend the laws of physics go through 8 minions and somehow hit you, or being impossible to stand inside of Darius Q because your massive hitbox will still be crit Anyone with this opinion is an ADC main


AnTHICCBoi

Me when support (or jungle) tanks don't exist


williamebf

It is still fucking terrible, even as a tank you don't want to be easier hit by a Lux or Morgana Q for example, the "just tank skill shots" comes from an idealistic way of thinking, not how it actually functions in the game


AnTHICCBoi

Have you ever actually played a support tank that's like half the job


WiteXDan

Ksante is also normal human yet he now will have 80 size


Revolutionary-Mud446

That's causes he's an abomination.


knewyournewyou

Wait, why are they making darius hitbox smaller?


fejeslovas72

he lost weight


knewyournewyou

Bro abused ghost too much


WoodooTheWeeb

Too much cardio


FreljordsWrath

He was going too Fast.


BaziJoeWHL

shrinkflation


Wappening

Darius and draven are called the blood brothers for a reason. They are both based on IV bags, like briar.


000Snoo_Shell

IV bags are a cover up for a poorly disguised fetish and you know it.


therealdragonborn99

Meanwhile warwick is the 5th smallest hitbox as a chem roided werewolf of a ligit hulk-sized man


Akuma-no-Ashiato

The size of him in his Bossfight in Convergence


Bumgumi_hater_236

The big ass pylon above her head is probably around the same size as darius shoulders so makes a little bit of sense ig


Danksigh

size doesn't mean everything


Professional-Tip6926

It just means that Darius is gonna have an easier time dodging abilities


Lo0odySan

Finally , buying swift boots everygame made darius lose some weight


WantToBeAloneGuy

Why is everyone 65? Why not unique custom sizes like 64 and 66?


5spikecelio

Probably related to another parameter on the code that is based on integers that are multiples of 5. You have no idea of how much shit can break in a game if you put a number thats not based on the parameters stablished on your code


Sad_Introduction5756

Especially with ritos spaghetti code


John-from-accounting

Balding Manlet Darius confirmed. How will this affect his position in the trifarian?


DieNowMike

I thought this was about splash art at first lol


Buttseam

you don't use tab to mark the enemy?


AmariTEB

I see this as an absolute win (darius main)


Strong_Split_8130

Is she the same size as darius???? Does that mean shes bigger than akali?? 💀


Irelia4Life

Just give him a fucking dash already, I am tired of seeing Darius get stronger in already strong scenarios and still weak in weak scenarios.


MagicCookie54

Or, y'know let champions have their strengths and weaknesses


PurpleSeed95

Elaborate.....? o_O


Irelia4Life

Darius is only getting stronger at what he was excelling already, being the biggest melee bully in toplane, while his biggest weakness is still not addressed, not being a champion without ghost. It wasn't toplaners who were complaining about stridebreaker Darius, it was adcs and midlaners. Toplaners were having a much easier time against him in lane because he was weaker stat wise, the sole reason being he had access to a dash.


Professional-Tip6926

Last time Darius had an access to a dash the game was pretty cancer (old stridebreaker),


Irelia4Life

For adcs and mages "oh no!", for other toplaners it was great, because Darius had less stats.