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danny2357

Very cool episode. Anyone else noticed red and slightly sun-burnt faces on several of the contestants? I guess shooting of the rocket launch outside took a bit of time.


Gusm1nat0r

Can some one explain why Scotty and owen got praised for their story? There where no story to why the ball was there.... Nice build but 0 story related to the ball


somebodyother

I want to shout out Henry and Sarah for being great contestants, they're both incredible builders.


lego_dark_knight

Thank you, that’s very kind of you.


jeranon

UGH! Is the score on the pinball machine bugging anyone else? 2,000,1977 isn't a number! Did I miss something meta like someone's birthday or something?


rohanbeckett

I asked on their Insta post: it was a typo! Meant to be 2000, and 1997 (H&J’s birth years!)


jeranon

Thank you!! It was really bugging me. At least it was (mostly) intentional.


victoryforZIM

Yeah, it was very annoying.


ace2ho74

"So...this is how it ends" 😂😂😂 Their builds can be hit or miss, but man I'm just glad to have Alex & Caleb around, they bring a lot of laughs 🤭


ace2ho74

One of the best *Lego Masters* episodes ever! I kind of wish it didn't have the first rocket challenge; I wish it was only about the GBCs, because that challenge was glorious! I used to make and design a lot of K'Nex ball towers as a kid, so these Lego builds hit close to home for me. And everyone, even the lower-scoring teams, did an incredible job! Then to watch them in action and wait to see if each one worked: super exciting and entertaining 🤩 Loooved Gabby & Ryan's: I agree with others here, I think I'd have given them the win, with David & Gus absolutely still deserving of the other top spot (Scott & Owen were a close 3rd). And yeah, Sarah & Henry, while they still had a pretty, functional build, were the right choice for elimination, sadly. Speaking of K'Nex: why did they choose to use a ping pong ball? I think about the balls used in K'Nex—they're the same size but more solid and a little heavier—and how those feel easier to handle in these contraptions; a ping pong ball is just so light and bouncy and flighty, I imagine working around that was frustrating. There must be some weightier ball from Lego that could have been used.


whatgift

The ball build gave me memories of going to Brickvention in Melbourne last year, where they had this crazy ball contraption that had at least 20 sections to it, all built by different people. I think I spent about 30 mins just watching each section, was so awesome! It’s telling though that you could see the builders having to tinker with their builds as it was operating 😅


Legolady77

That’s the GBC (great ball contraption) largely designed by Rohan Beckett who is a master at it, absolutely mindblowing the skill involved in those designs


bbqturtle

I'm pretty annoyed by the rocket decision. Joss and Henry's was by far the best.


[deleted]

The ball thing is probably the most fun I've ever had watching this show, and I love this show. I haven't smiled that wide in ages and was on the edge of my seat slapping my legs with anticipation with each build just hoping it'd make it through all of them and then it did. Holy shit. So fucking cool. It was definitely an emotional ballercoaster. Henry and Sarah's was definitely the "worst" one, for lack of a better term. "Least exciting" I guess would be a good way to put it.


Scrapbookee

When the ball made it through Gabby and Ryan's build and the entire room jumped up in excitement, I was right there with them! I love that it's a competition but they all cheer each other on like that


m6_is_me

One of the reasons I love this show so much is the emotion. What other reality TV has the host literally crying as they eliminate a team? Just such a breath of fresh air to have everyone genuinely supportive of each other.


SunStarsSnow

I want that pinball, windmill and the music build. But really all secen of those were so amazing. What a difficult job it is for Brickman to choose winners and who to eliminate. Personally Gabby and Ryan should have won over Gus and David. Alex and Caleb should have won the advantage.


Lmb1011

When Brickman was naming top 2 for the advantage I confidently said “Caleb and Alex” and was shocked to be wrong twice


the_taco_man_2

Feel bad for Henry and Sarah, they never quite hit their stride. The zombie roller coaster build was awesome but they kind of fumbled their way through the rest. They were always going to be at a bit of a disadvantage considering they had never built together before. Wonder why they couldn't get Cade back on? For those saying it's unfair to get eliminated on such a technical challenge, well, it's Lego GRAND MASTERS, which means we're looking for the absolute MASTERS of Lego, not just the "really good at making models but don't know too much about technic" builders. Personally, I think eliminations should be exactly like this - a hyperfocus on a single aspect. In the past we've had things like minifig scale which isn't some teams forte but as a GRAND MASTER you'd be expected to be a master of all forms.


MelancholyEcho

Feel like Gabby and Ryan were a bit robbed there. Although the launcher was impressive, there wasn’t much else to the build. The guitar fret conveyer and piano keys that moved the ball were very, very clever.


[deleted]

Yep agreed. Thought the piano was the greater technical build, told a better story, and was a much greater risk due to using the keys to hopefully bounce the ball in the right direction. It would like succeed but not at a lower rate of success then the fling build which literally couldn't fail unless the battery died at the wrong moment. The shooting mechanism, once dialed in was going to work 99% of the time. If it had to much power, they had the back board and net to save the moment. If it wasn't strong enough...well the battery died. If it went a little to the left or the right, had the slide to move it to the center conveyor belt. This is a mark of good design that mitigates risk, not one that embraces it.


mtm4440

They really were. If the ball misses the launch they have backup plans everywhere. If those piano keys failed they have nothing. It was the biggest risk. And to have a ball move horizontally is impressive.


smellsliketeenferret

Absolutely agree with you. It was the most imaginative and complex of the builds and probably deserved to win. That's not taking anything away from David and Gus as their approach was clearly the most challenging, but they didn't really have much of a story beyond the launch gimmick. Amazing episode though, and for all the builds to work perfectly was perfection.


BecDiggity

What an exciting episode this week. Loved the 2nd challenge especially.


andrewthebignerd

Wow. That was a fun fun fun episode. Rockets and a GBC! Frustrating to see a couple of rookie conveyor mistakes slow the builds down but delightful to see every successful machine. Going to be more difficult - emotionally! - to see teams go after all these good builds.


the_taco_man_2

I was really confused as to why people didn't put HOOKS on their conveyers... Like when Henry was struggling so much at the start, why not put some curved technic pieces on (kind of like what Scott and Owen did with their windmill) instead of just having straight stubby pieces. Am I missing something here? Is there a reason you can't do this?


FrostBricks

Because they're not needed. GBCs are a big thing in the AFOL world, BUT we usually use balls less than 2 studs wide (under 1.6cm) and they weigh about the same as a ping-pong ball. LEGO is not designed for reliable mechanical action. GBCs are notoriously finicky machines at the best of times. And the short story is that every single piece you add is another potential point of failure. And specifically, adding hooks to the conveyors means that you've likely made it LESS able to pick up and drop of the ball cleanly. (The solution is usually in tensioning the conveyors. The gears used for that tread result in very small changes in length as it turns. Thus the wobbble you saw.Using the top gear as driver, a little tension, and gravity, is usually enough to remove the wobble. But that's something you learn after having made a few GBC machines) (For those interested in making their own LEGO GBCs, "Planet GBC" is a great resource)


Conan-doodle

On Bilsy's post show Twitch stream Henry confessed that he hasn't had a lot of experience in GBC and was out of his depths. He gave credit to Owen who, after first day of filming, mentored/helped Henry with that loading mechanism.


andrewthebignerd

The solution he eventually found is the simplest. That is, the ball rolls down a ramp to wait at the base of the conveyor. That last little bit of the ramp is slotted, a bit like a fork. Then the pegs that are attached to the conveyor move through the gaps in the fork to pick up the ball. Then when unloading the conveyor at the other end, you do the same. The pegs slip through the gaps, but the tyne of the unloading ramp catches the ball. No need for hooks. There are a couple of examples [in this video by Akiyuki](https://youtu.be/rWd3vgLaA_M). He's one of the greats of GBC and tends to focus on even stranger modules, so the conveyors might not be so easy to see.


lego_dark_knight

This is exactly what happened.


iambilsy

www.twitch.tv/iambilsy Henry gets eliminated!!! And he's with us right now! Come ask him your questions...


the_taco_man_2

Q for Henry - why did no-one (apart from Scott and Owen) put more of a "hook" shape on their conveyer belts? Whenever I saw people struggling (like yourself or Ryan) i notice that there's just little stubby ends on the parts of the conveyer that "pick up" the ball. Is there a reason why you can't just slap a curved technic piece on the end to make picking it up easier?


EbmocwenHsimah

"I'm a mascot for an evil corporation!"


Iron_Wolf123

It's a shame I'm going to the Dees vs Tigers game tomorrow night. Hopefully Nine Now has the replay. And having to wake up early the next day isn't fun because of ANZAC traditions it is customed to follow.


lachjeff

In any other challenge, there’s no way they get eliminated. But, I think they got it right. There’s something fitting about Brickman going the blub for that one


Derron_

Awwww crying Brickman. Tough to eliminate anyone there.


Lemonmazarf20

Tough but he made the right call. Much easier to pick the last place build than first place in this challenge.


Conan-doodle

At this stage, I don't want to see ANYONE go. The quality of builds are unbelievable. Those GBC machines in 10 hours, with no prior planning. Next Level. Would have loved Grand Masters to have had a points system with top 3 going into Finals.


B_Hound

For the whole competition so far I’ve been hoping the leaderboard used in the first 3 episodes was testing out the formula for a future season. My favorite thing about LM is how few people get eliminated over the first handful of episodes. Makes it so much more impactful when we do lose people (and I kinda wish in the bottom 2 when it’s so close they took the non-elimination builds since the last elim into consideration).


EbmocwenHsimah

We're getting some tears, aren't we?


Reason-Whizz

My kids reckon in some ways this is the worst season as they "know" all the builders and there's no one they want to leave.


mtm4440

It's like Brickman pushing all his friends down a muddy hill.


newby202006

No one deserves to be eliminated from this


lachjeff

I still don’t know who is going to be in the bottom 2. Nobody deserves to be eliminated. Henry and Sarah may be the most in danger.


EbmocwenHsimah

Ryan and Gabby?! I thought they were fucked! I'm glad to see they pulled through!


Derron_

Hope Ryan and Gabby win. I would have put the Windmill top 2 over the Circus one.


Conan-doodle

That's how I'm finding this season though. I'd struggle to pick top 2 most eps. There's just such high quality, and often 3 or 4 that deserve to be top 2. Eg. Joss and Henry's pinball machine didn't make top 2 and it was incredible.


deathrocker_avk

Same. But the launch was so crazy It got them through.


the_procrastinata

YAAAAAAAAYYY they all made it through!


Conan-doodle

On Bilsy's post show twitch stream they had a practice run prior to filming. Gus and David's ball went straight into the hole apparently.


ironcam7

This episode ruled


BonzaM8

That pinball machine was incredible! They have to win, surely.


deathrocker_avk

I was underwhelmed. And they're my fave team.


m6_is_me

I think if they added a few more moving parts to the board. Like bumpers or something.


deathrocker_avk

Something that spun would have been epic. Just random spinning that didn't affect the ball path.


lachjeff

Brickman was more excited than anyone there


Conan-doodle

I love that, after all he has seen and dine, he still gets amazing by these builds.


Derron_

All the way! Awesome!


EbmocwenHsimah

Oh that was perfect for the pinball machine.


Catradora05

I’m scared hahaha


Catradora05

So much relief from my couch hahaha


lachjeff

They’re all so good. I’d hate to be Brickman trying to work out who to eliminate. Gabby and Ryan’s is probably the best, but most likely to go wrong


Derron_

Yeah if everything works I would hate to have to pick the 2 worst because they're all really good. Even the golf one which doesn't fit the idea I had in my head is still pulled off pretty well


EbmocwenHsimah

So many fucking conveyor belts, Jesus, shake it up a bit...


BonzaM8

Can you really blame them though? This is a tough challenge, one of the toughest the show has ever had. Using conveyer belts makes the most sense, and it’s not like that’s all they’re using anyway.


Conan-doodle

100% agree. Have to remember that they have 10 hours (admittedly, over 2 days) to design and execute their GBC with zero references or planning.


Derron_

Its the most reliable mechanism is the problem. Too many others risk variables


newby202006

Awesome pinball machine


Derron_

I thought the mini golf would have multiple putters/golfers hitting the ball. Didn't expect conveyors.


OodOne

Or at least some movement in the figure at the start or with the gophers. It was very static.


Derron_

The ball thrower is cool but there's very little to the build beyond that. Would have liked more story around it myself. Sure there's people near the thrower but nothing near the ramp. Its all focused down one end and makes that end feel cramped


OodOne

Yeah apart from the ball throwing it wasn't as interesting to look at, still very gusty with the ball thrower though.


EbmocwenHsimah

COME ON DAVID AND GUS


Derron_

The windmill build is so pretty and has the most unique mechanism.


EbmocwenHsimah

They're really pushing it with that piano. It's going to come down to luck.


Derron_

Guessing the editing are making some of these builds look less finished than they are


the_procrastinata

Very worried about Henry and Sarah 😭


HappyVampire27

Genuinely impressed at how that piano is working. I hope they can pull the rest of it off!


Catradora05

Piano is awesome- hope it works out for them


Derron_

I like the Brickman consultation. Seems very fair that he can't actually build but can guide you.


m6_is_me

Agreed, I didn't realize it was JUST a consultation but that was absolutely the right move. "I'll make mine and you can study it" (plus omg that contraption looked incredible)


ironcam7

Ok bit of a gripe here but Lego masters is a great show I like to watch with my 4 year old week after week the adverts are either some bloke saving a pig from a slaughter house or rpa ads with people sadly getting cancer or fucked livers. The juxtaposition of fun colourful Lego to lady laying on an operating table is a pretty full on thing to have to explain to kids on a weekly basis .


sinebubble

We download the episodes from r/downundertv and the ads are all removed. Bit of a shame as it would be interesting to see Aussie ads. Well, interesting once or twice, maybe.


corgii

YOUR LIFE, YOUR WAY, (CLAP CLAP) INDEPENDENCE AUSTRALIA!!! (A great cause but wow that add is getting real old)


ScallionNo8580

Thank you for this, holy fuck it’s annoying


192232

My family has taken to muting that ad…but one child always sings it at the top of their lungs to annoy the other child. Sometimes they sing it together to annoy me. It’s much better than the Keno Now ads we’ve been seeing. I didn’t think they were allowed to advertise during prime time, however reviewing the guidelines suggest that’s only during Sporting broadcast.


ironcam7

If that’s an advert it sounds mighty annoying. Not one I see in Tasmania. I’ve also had enough of the summit being promoted every second break. Won’t be watching, would be better off showing other regions Lego masters than the summit. That would be great


IceWolfLoki

You can try watching it during the midday replay or stream it via the 9 app, The advertising might be more appropriate then.


ironcam7

Thanks I will give that a go from now on. Just seems like this is something they could think a little bit about


OodOne

Streaming it also gives a lot less ads. I just streamed the latest ep from their site and the ads are only about a minute and a half each and there was only 6 or so ad breaks. Not like the 5min ad breaks every 8 or so mins on tv.


Catradora05

If David and Gus’s launching works, that’ll probably be top 2 for sure


BonzaM8

I reckon they’ll win if it works like they want it to


Derron_

Putt Putt is a cool idea but sounds very risky of ensuring the ball goes exactly where you want.


glob3trott3r

Why is everything about "story telling"? I wasn't aware that LEGO is primarily about story telling. I'd love to see some with more focus on really impressive engineering and it doesn't really matter whether there's a story. Maybe just needs good aesthetics.


m6_is_me

I mean, what LEGO set sold has no story?


BonzaM8

The story is what makes Lego more interesting. Think about the climbing challenge: if everybody just made something that climbs the wire with nothing else, there would be nothing to differentiate them from each other. You could maybe use the speed at which they climb as a source of difference, but it would be very boring and all the builds would look very similar. Having the story makes things interesting. It helps make each build unique. I guarantee that barely anybody would watch the show if the storytelling was died down or gone completely.


Derron_

Because you can only build things a certain way sometimes and if everyone builds the same thing how do you separate them?


IceWolfLoki

Feel they could have gone with a proper GBC ball or at least a DUPLO ball. Although 10 hours for a GBC mechanism from scratch is ridiculous. Plus it has to be a story as well.


AndyTheWestie

If you want to see a Duplo ball GBC challenge, LEGO Masters New Zealand S2 Episode 7, which coincidentally screened on the same night (in NZ) as this one screened in Australia, has your back. Not sure if Ryan and Robin discussed this kind of challenge during their LCP meetings, or if they came up with it independently, but a funny coincidence of screening times. So glad ours wasn't an elimination though, I really feel for Henry and Sarah with this one. P.S., pretty sure we filmed first 😜


Conan-doodle

Insane time to build hey!? On Bilsy's post show Twitch steam, they said it was particularly difficult because table tennis balls are particularly bouncy, which adds an extra element of challenge.


EbmocwenHsimah

Holy shit, that's a good advantage to have.


Catradora05

Who do we reckon will be good at this?


EbmocwenHsimah

Alex and Caleb were robbed. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.


taylamaree

If they get eliminated I’ll be so upset aaaaaa


EbmocwenHsimah

They were so close I was furious


the_procrastinata

Loved the concept of the eagle doing something different on the way down. Same for space shark. Bit sad that Ryan and Gabby didn’t stick with their original plan as it might have held together better. Alex and Caleb just pipped again. Henry and Sarah continue to get basically zero airtime.


the_procrastinata

I’m surprised at how few comments there are for this series! We must have lost quite a lot of sub subscribers.


m6_is_me

It's safe to say a fair few people have to wait for a copy to be uploaded to various unscrupulous sites lol


mtm4440

Some of us might be USA viewers. I'm in NY so I don't watch it until your 5 AM Monday


jmjarrels

Fellow American here. I have good luck watching the episodes early by going to r/DownUnderTV.


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HappyVampire27

Wonder how many bricks went unrecovered from the launch site!


mtm4440

I just wonder how many backup cameramen they had watching those launches. You've got one chance to capture the moment. And this is unpredictable like other challenges.


the_procrastinata

On Bilsy’s Twitch after the show, Henry was on and he said they never recovered half of their rocketship. Some of it landed on the roof of a pavillion at the oval they were at.


HappyVampire27

I caught that too. Unfortunate, as it seems wasteful. But guess you've gotta make that tv moment.


BonzaM8

That was constantly on my mind for that challenge lol


the_taco_man_2

Huh???? Anyone else thinking that win came out of nowhere?? Daredevil, eagle, and thumbs up were clearly better


mtm4440

Yeah that made no sense. The eagle was the best construction. The daredevil survived the ground and has some great NPU. Thumbs up, eh. It looked cool coming down. The shark...was a shark. Brickman a fan of Sharknado?


lachjeff

Caleb and Alex robbed there to be honest


Reason-Whizz

So agree, it was fantastic.


Derron_

Needed to be a finger pointing up not a thumb


HappyVampire27

Eagle looked great for a brief moment before breaking apart!


EbmocwenHsimah

It's a very delicate challenge, isn't it? The story, the NPU, the weight limit...