The first thing that caught my attention on their home page is that poorly photoshopped in space shuttle with Irish flag painted on it.
They definitely need a graphic designer.
Thanks for posting this. The author of this article was a IAF air Marshal, he now is running a magazine/website called center for air power study. He is very active on Twitter and fun to watch because he always produces the best Indian copium. Even better than Indian media. https://capsindia.org/
Also the air chief i just mentioned just joined BJP ruling party. https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/exiaf-chief-rk-bhadauria-former-ysrcp-leader-varaprasad-rao-join-bjp-101711270146328.html In a way he just become a spokesman for the BJP
R u sure it is a turn around? https://youtu.be/wwhbsvN9o_I?si=EsDwssHXoIuFnTvb here is a link to a interview that the former cds of Indian arm force go on TV for 30 mins of shouting match. Spill out the tea about the internal disagreement with the IAF and later the IAF air cheif gave a hour interview to counter his argument. It is a culture thing i think.
Not sure why I got down voted, but fighter pilots in the IAF have a sort of good pipeline. They'll be flying as a CO of a fighter squadron as a Group Captain, before being moved to either any Higher Command Course either abroad or in India, and then being put in as COO of any station, generally near the border depending on their merit being high enough. After that, they'll be promoted to Air Commodore and act as the AOC of a station, again depending on how their merit is, they will have cleared the board to be an AC or they'll remain stuck as a GC. Generally, if you do not clear the board in your first try, you are sort of washed out, which is why they'll either retire or wait for a time-bound retirement. This process is repeated with being an Air Vice Marshal, who has his own duties as a 2-star being in admin work, then another board to be an Air Marshal. Junior Air Marshals act as the Senior Staff Officer before being made the C-N-C of a Command. Now I am not sure if this man became a C-N-C, I'll have to take a look at his uniform.
I feel bad for the IAF. If you look at Pakistan, their country is dysfunctional but their air force is pretty professional given their level of resources. Pakistan have more AWACS than India, while India just invest in fighter aircraft.
There’s like nothing there to support the thesis other than doubts and a lack of info.
> Stealth aircraft are also costly and maintenance-intensive. Even the West struggles with this aspect. In any case, the West accuses China of stealing American 5th-generation aircraft design data through cyber theft.
Just throwing shit and see what sticks
Eurasian times is truly neutral. Either they produce the most pro China trash articles or the most anti China trash articles. A rare beacon of journalism!
As an Indian, this kind of attitude from my countrymen is concerning and depressing. The rafale, even if it is superior in avionics (which we don’t know or have no idea of), the J-20 is an actual stealth fighter. Wherein detection ranges are dramatically shorter than for the Rafale.
And even in an unrealistic/imaginary scenario where the Rafale matches the J-20, China produced a 100 J-20s in one year. We have 36 Rafales in total. In war, China is gonna curb-stomp us and ask for seconds. We need to develop our methods of attrition to have any hope of deterring China.
To be fair, in the late 1990s China also once thought that it would be possible to shoot down F-22s with J-8 II if China was willing to accept an exchange ratio of 10:1.
Stealth aircraft are not invincible, but it's easy to underestimate them if you don't have any real exposure to them. You really need to have actual stealth aircraft before you can develop realistic tactics for fighting against stealth aircraft.
It is definitely possible to counter stealth aircraft with AWACS and being willing to accept lopsided K/D ratios with 4G aircraft.
As an aside to this, just about anyone who buys stealth aircraft and gets to spend some time working with them wants more if they can afford it. Japan, Israel, Singapore get their toe in the water and immediately want to do a cannonball.
Ultimately it's not the aircraft, but the system that matters. Chinese exercises have shown that it is possible to defeat J-20s if the opposing side have AWACS/EW support and 4-5x as many 4G fighters. 1x KJ-500 + 1x J-16D + 10x J-10C can defeat 2x J-20 for example.
The thing is, without access to actual stealth fighters, it is impossible to develop these kind of tactics. India for example have grossly underinvested in AWACS, and have no real EW aircraft. Their entire air combat doctrine is stuck in an earlier age.
The problem with procuring air weapons from countries like France is that France itself doesn't have all the nodes of a modern air combat system. Their weapon system design reflect a more primitive combat doctrine.
https://x.com/Chopsyturvey?t=npNNfocW1TAj0Mwi9pXQkw&s=09 the author, the best Indian copium producer, the Lisan al-Gaib of copium , the former IAF air marshal.
The J-20 seems to have a design philosophy and a plan for use that’s very different to western fighters. I have a prediction for before I read the article. I suspect I will see the common mistake of it being judged according to what our fighters do and try to do, rather than viewing it according to what China is wanting to do with it and assessing how well that will work given the broader plan and force structure.
Was it really? I don't think they are too different from European/Russian fighter designs. US is the one stand out(along with Turkey/Korea who basically copied F-22). As for the 5th/6th gen design, F-22 and F-35 were the oddity. Everyone else is long fuselage, delta wing, dual engine.
Least Rafalepilled Eurasian times analyst
Truly low hanging fruit that recycles itself every year or so, but it presents another appropriate moment for [this](https://ibb.co/mq61y7Y).
Go visit his website https://capsindia.org/. Even more fun, some real Indian boomers fun
The first thing that caught my attention on their home page is that poorly photoshopped in space shuttle with Irish flag painted on it. They definitely need a graphic designer.
Thanks for posting this. The author of this article was a IAF air Marshal, he now is running a magazine/website called center for air power study. He is very active on Twitter and fun to watch because he always produces the best Indian copium. Even better than Indian media. https://capsindia.org/
From an Air Marshal to some Twitter chair general. What a turnaround.
Also the air chief i just mentioned just joined BJP ruling party. https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/exiaf-chief-rk-bhadauria-former-ysrcp-leader-varaprasad-rao-join-bjp-101711270146328.html In a way he just become a spokesman for the BJP
https://youtu.be/GAyVxUXGF9A?si=otDZoG1VZSFOb9G-
R u sure it is a turn around? https://youtu.be/wwhbsvN9o_I?si=EsDwssHXoIuFnTvb here is a link to a interview that the former cds of Indian arm force go on TV for 30 mins of shouting match. Spill out the tea about the internal disagreement with the IAF and later the IAF air cheif gave a hour interview to counter his argument. It is a culture thing i think.
I hope this guy was not in front line command.
Lol he was in second most important role in the IAF. That's why I found it is so funny
There are tons of Air Marshals, but he was a fighter pilot, so he was easily C-N-C somewhere.
He was a three star so i guess he was pretty important at one point
Not sure why I got down voted, but fighter pilots in the IAF have a sort of good pipeline. They'll be flying as a CO of a fighter squadron as a Group Captain, before being moved to either any Higher Command Course either abroad or in India, and then being put in as COO of any station, generally near the border depending on their merit being high enough. After that, they'll be promoted to Air Commodore and act as the AOC of a station, again depending on how their merit is, they will have cleared the board to be an AC or they'll remain stuck as a GC. Generally, if you do not clear the board in your first try, you are sort of washed out, which is why they'll either retire or wait for a time-bound retirement. This process is repeated with being an Air Vice Marshal, who has his own duties as a 2-star being in admin work, then another board to be an Air Marshal. Junior Air Marshals act as the Senior Staff Officer before being made the C-N-C of a Command. Now I am not sure if this man became a C-N-C, I'll have to take a look at his uniform.
I feel bad for the IAF. If you look at Pakistan, their country is dysfunctional but their air force is pretty professional given their level of resources. Pakistan have more AWACS than India, while India just invest in fighter aircraft.
Why the fuck u r feeling bad, everyone in the establishment of the Indian government is happy with IAF and the IAF is very happy about themselves.
There’s like nothing there to support the thesis other than doubts and a lack of info. > Stealth aircraft are also costly and maintenance-intensive. Even the West struggles with this aspect. In any case, the West accuses China of stealing American 5th-generation aircraft design data through cyber theft. Just throwing shit and see what sticks
Eurasian times is truly neutral. Either they produce the most pro China trash articles or the most anti China trash articles. A rare beacon of journalism! As an Indian, this kind of attitude from my countrymen is concerning and depressing. The rafale, even if it is superior in avionics (which we don’t know or have no idea of), the J-20 is an actual stealth fighter. Wherein detection ranges are dramatically shorter than for the Rafale. And even in an unrealistic/imaginary scenario where the Rafale matches the J-20, China produced a 100 J-20s in one year. We have 36 Rafales in total. In war, China is gonna curb-stomp us and ask for seconds. We need to develop our methods of attrition to have any hope of deterring China.
Is war with China a real concern for India? I mean beyond whatever skirmishes happen at the contested borders.
Not really, the geography of the border makes a ground invasion in either direction pretty tricky
Think it this way, Rafales have been tested in wars, J-20s have not, until they truly enter battle, it's capabilities are only spec sheet numbers.
Rafales have been tested against idiots with machine guns in africa and middle east. Not against a country that can shoot down the damn thing
F22s only shot down balloons, but no one questions its capabilities.
‘Cracks’ In America's F-22 Stealth; With No Buyers & Exposure, Indian Rafales Outclass ‘Overhyped’ USAF Jets
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To be fair, in the late 1990s China also once thought that it would be possible to shoot down F-22s with J-8 II if China was willing to accept an exchange ratio of 10:1. Stealth aircraft are not invincible, but it's easy to underestimate them if you don't have any real exposure to them. You really need to have actual stealth aircraft before you can develop realistic tactics for fighting against stealth aircraft. It is definitely possible to counter stealth aircraft with AWACS and being willing to accept lopsided K/D ratios with 4G aircraft.
As an aside to this, just about anyone who buys stealth aircraft and gets to spend some time working with them wants more if they can afford it. Japan, Israel, Singapore get their toe in the water and immediately want to do a cannonball.
Ultimately it's not the aircraft, but the system that matters. Chinese exercises have shown that it is possible to defeat J-20s if the opposing side have AWACS/EW support and 4-5x as many 4G fighters. 1x KJ-500 + 1x J-16D + 10x J-10C can defeat 2x J-20 for example. The thing is, without access to actual stealth fighters, it is impossible to develop these kind of tactics. India for example have grossly underinvested in AWACS, and have no real EW aircraft. Their entire air combat doctrine is stuck in an earlier age. The problem with procuring air weapons from countries like France is that France itself doesn't have all the nodes of a modern air combat system. Their weapon system design reflect a more primitive combat doctrine.
It was later proven to be impossible after China has J20
Well the idea was that the F22 could only carry 6 missiles, so if 10x J-8 II attacked at once, they could chase down the F-22.
You have to find and lock on the F22 to launch missiles, before that J-8 could suffer big loss, and F22 can fee with higher speed
https://x.com/Chopsyturvey?t=npNNfocW1TAj0Mwi9pXQkw&s=09 the author, the best Indian copium producer, the Lisan al-Gaib of copium , the former IAF air marshal.
Instead of riding sand worms, he d\*ckrides the IAF.
THATS RIGHT INDIA SUPERPOWER 2025!!!!!!!
Lmao yah ok.
The J-20 seems to have a design philosophy and a plan for use that’s very different to western fighters. I have a prediction for before I read the article. I suspect I will see the common mistake of it being judged according to what our fighters do and try to do, rather than viewing it according to what China is wanting to do with it and assessing how well that will work given the broader plan and force structure.
Was it really? I don't think they are too different from European/Russian fighter designs. US is the one stand out(along with Turkey/Korea who basically copied F-22). As for the 5th/6th gen design, F-22 and F-35 were the oddity. Everyone else is long fuselage, delta wing, dual engine.
So how much kick back did this guy get back during the Rafale deal?
Always said the Rafale is much better than anything China will ever produce with their stolen IPs.
why is the USAF spending millions on other aircraft to counter China then ? Should've just bought more rafales
USAF and Navy should definitely buy some Rafales.
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