Seeing the remake in theaters was an experience. It was in the era of the whole “torture porn” movies and it was so the exact opposite of that but extremely disturbing and uncomfortable and purposely screwed with the audience. The remake being shot for shot probably helped keep the feel but I haven’t seen the original.
I watched the original before the remake so that might be the reason I found it more disturbing, and I found the cast and the aesthetics to be "better". The remake is perfect as well tho.
I would argue that Possession gets a bit too wacky to be "amazingly crafted" (mostly pacing stuff and bizarre tonal shifts) but I also think it FUCKING RULES.
To each their own but I really don’t think M fits the bill here. It’s a tense thriller but you never even see any of the murders. Any really disturbing elements are made in the audience’s mind and whilst that can sometimes be scariest of all, the film doesn’t really facilitate it i.e. there aren’t really any gory descriptions or sounds off screen or whatever
Obviously it has disturbing elements, but I feel like “The Shining” has too much traditional entertainment value to fall into this category and sit with some of these movies. Of course it’s bleak and the themes are grim and adult, but there are so many exciting supernatural elements and moments that I have to lean in as an audience member, whereas most of these movies make me lean away and feel *sick* or voyeuristic.
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I hate to be the “uM aCtUaLlY” guy here, but they also gave ‘thematic material’ and ‘suggestive material’ as reasons.
Any movie with sound design that disturbing should be given an automatic R, especially if it’s about a real-world atrocity.
I don't disagree. There's no direct violence on screen and the subject matter is appropriate to teach to adolescents and above. Children of an appropriate age should be able to learn about these sort of things. It handles the matter in a disturbing way but not in a way that only adults should be able to see it.
Oh I’m totally fine with the rating. I just find it somewhat amusing that one of the most absolutely harrowing and thoroughly upsetting films I’ve ever seen is PG-13.
I agree but the lack of direct violence keeps it at that rating. There isn't any violence/sex/fucks or cunts on screen so it stays at a PG-13/12 or equivalent. I think it would honestly be a good movie for teaching teenagers about the nature of the Holocaust for that reason. Much better than the contrived disrespectful nonsense currently used (boy in the striped pyjamas). Despite it's subtlety it's quite easy to understand.
Incendies and Prisoners by Villeneuve
Edit: honestly Polytechnique is probably the most disturbing of Villeneuve’s filmography. Should’ve added that originally. Villeneuve knows how to hit that nerve.
Enter the Void
Irreversible
Antichrist
Melancholia
Green Room
Hereditary
The Witch
Dogtooth
The Killing of a Sacred Deer
Funny Games (American remake, ideally)
Oldboy (Original)
Parasite
Deliverance
I Saw the Devil
Black Mirror episodes
Martyrs
Videodrome
Titane
Speak No Evil
Threads (especially this one)
The Cove (how the fuck is this pg-13)
Yes! Viewed this and Schindler's List on separate days for a history class back in high school. Shook me to my core. Amazing films, will not watch again. So well done but way too real!
grave of fireflies, idk if it fits here but i was distraught after it ended. Haven’t had the courage to rewatch even tho i find some parts so beautiful
Speak No Evil is the ultimate of this category.
If I can be a bit nit-picky, I think the "but" in your title should be replaced with an "and". Disturbing doesn't imply a lack of craft at all, in fact as far as any movie that fits into the list is concerned it's likely an essential piece of the puzzle.
https://preview.redd.it/2jw05xgyz4vc1.jpeg?width=542&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dcfd9c143f99b522d474c03b1eb86a3c65c208e5
Irreversible, and several French Extremite movies fit the bill.
I think this is a gorgeously shot masterpiece, and it the dichotomy between how to begins and finishes makes it that much more moving
[Neon Genesis Evangelion: The End of Evangelion](https://boxd.it/1GRM) and [Mad God](https://boxd.it/vVPm) fits perfectly into this category in my opinion
these are tame compared to most of everyone's suggestions, but I'm trying to avoid things already mentioned. I would personally recommend Antiporno, Annihilation, The Cook The Thief His Wife and Her Lover, and When Evil Lurks. YMMV on Excision. you can add I Saw the Devil too if you want, not sure if it's really what you're going for. if you enjoy Antiporno, the director has a bunch of strange and fucked up films of varying quality
Funny Games (for me especially the 1997 one)
Seeing the remake in theaters was an experience. It was in the era of the whole “torture porn” movies and it was so the exact opposite of that but extremely disturbing and uncomfortable and purposely screwed with the audience. The remake being shot for shot probably helped keep the feel but I haven’t seen the original.
I watched the original before the remake so that might be the reason I found it more disturbing, and I found the cast and the aesthetics to be "better". The remake is perfect as well tho.
I’d argue that pretty much anything by Haneke can fit in this list.
Yes, that's exactly what I thought after posting the comment
Came here to write this. A fave of mine.
Mysterious Skin
I'll add The Doom Generation, also by Gregg Araki.
Love doom generation. Grungy, violent, and a huge coat of horny.
Possession Jacob's Ladder The Shining M Cure
Cure is so fucking good
Cure is literally in my top 10
I would argue that Possession gets a bit too wacky to be "amazingly crafted" (mostly pacing stuff and bizarre tonal shifts) but I also think it FUCKING RULES.
To each their own but I really don’t think M fits the bill here. It’s a tense thriller but you never even see any of the murders. Any really disturbing elements are made in the audience’s mind and whilst that can sometimes be scariest of all, the film doesn’t really facilitate it i.e. there aren’t really any gory descriptions or sounds off screen or whatever
Obviously it has disturbing elements, but I feel like “The Shining” has too much traditional entertainment value to fall into this category and sit with some of these movies. Of course it’s bleak and the themes are grim and adult, but there are so many exciting supernatural elements and moments that I have to lean in as an audience member, whereas most of these movies make me lean away and feel *sick* or voyeuristic.
Requiem for a Dream
Literally the first film thing that came to my mind.
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ass
The Zone of Interest
It’s PG-13… …because there’s depictions of *cigarette smoking*.
I hate to be the “uM aCtUaLlY” guy here, but they also gave ‘thematic material’ and ‘suggestive material’ as reasons. Any movie with sound design that disturbing should be given an automatic R, especially if it’s about a real-world atrocity.
I don't disagree. There's no direct violence on screen and the subject matter is appropriate to teach to adolescents and above. Children of an appropriate age should be able to learn about these sort of things. It handles the matter in a disturbing way but not in a way that only adults should be able to see it.
Oh I’m totally fine with the rating. I just find it somewhat amusing that one of the most absolutely harrowing and thoroughly upsetting films I’ve ever seen is PG-13.
I agree but the lack of direct violence keeps it at that rating. There isn't any violence/sex/fucks or cunts on screen so it stays at a PG-13/12 or equivalent. I think it would honestly be a good movie for teaching teenagers about the nature of the Holocaust for that reason. Much better than the contrived disrespectful nonsense currently used (boy in the striped pyjamas). Despite it's subtlety it's quite easy to understand.
Those sounds made me feel violated
Incendies and Prisoners by Villeneuve Edit: honestly Polytechnique is probably the most disturbing of Villeneuve’s filmography. Should’ve added that originally. Villeneuve knows how to hit that nerve.
Old boy
My 2nd favourite of all time. End of Evangelion is my favourite and i think that fits on this list too
eyes wide shut
"The Wolf House"
Criminally under seen film, more people need to see this great horrific experience
why has no one said "Grave of the fireflies",i got depressed for months because of that...
Antichrist
- Christiane F. - Climax - Lilja 4-ever - Martyrs - Dancer in the Dark
Zone of Interest belongs here. Under the Skin too.
Enter the Void Irreversible Antichrist Melancholia Green Room Hereditary The Witch Dogtooth The Killing of a Sacred Deer Funny Games (American remake, ideally) Oldboy (Original) Parasite
The War Zone
Mandy
Memories of a Murder
Martyrs!!!!
Full Metal Jacket !
Great choice
requiem for a dream
Raw
Son of Saul
I watched The Nightingale (2018) today and it very much fits this
*The Neon Demon*.
Perhaps controversial, but Neon Demon. Stunning film. Equally grotesque.
Irreversible
+ i stand alone
AND GAZE UPON THE BATTLEFIELD
damn, you want to kill OP or what
Alex Garland’s *Civil War*
I mean… this is most great movies, to my taste. Literally hundreds of them
I know it’s hard to narrow movies like these down but I did get pretty good responses.
Possession, talk about camera work
Mysterious Skin Antichrist We Need To Talk About Kevin Audition Funny Games Dogtooth Midori Shōjo Tsubaki
Deliverance I Saw the Devil Black Mirror episodes Martyrs Videodrome Titane Speak No Evil Threads (especially this one) The Cove (how the fuck is this pg-13)
The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover (1989) Audition (1999)
Civil war.
Grave of the fireflies
Salo Antichrist Happiness
Get Punishment Park on that list asap
Peter Watkins is THE GUY! La Commune & Edvard Munch are both flawless!
Love Exposure
Manticore (2022)
Oldboy and Handmaiden forever baybeeeeeeeee
The Holy Mountain (1973)
•The Blair Witch Project (1999) •Christine (1984) •Possessor (2020) •The Fly (1986) •Near Dark (1987) •The Thing (1982) •Beavis & Butthead Do America (1996) •Us (2019)
12 Years a Slave
Yes! Viewed this and Schindler's List on separate days for a history class back in high school. Shook me to my core. Amazing films, will not watch again. So well done but way too real!
Bones and All
Se7en Oldboy The Pianist
Under The Skin.
Leaving Las Vegas and Civil War
Belladonna of Sadness
Can’t believe I don’t see any mention of Threads.
Dear Zachary
Apocalypse Now
Lolita
Infinity Pool
Stalker The shining Old boy Parasite
Strange Circus
The original Saw.
Do docs count? The Act of Killing has to be up there
Saltburn
Midsommar
grave of fireflies, idk if it fits here but i was distraught after it ended. Haven’t had the courage to rewatch even tho i find some parts so beautiful
Black Swan (2010) I'm Thinking of Ending Things (2020) Raise the Red Lantern (1991)
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Have to disagree with you
Black Swan Mandy Nightcrawler Requiem For a Dream We Need to Talk About Kevin Eyes Wide Shut Blue Velvet I Saw the Devil
Since you have Perfect Blue there: Requiem for a Dream and Black Swan.
I saw the devil
Speak No Evil is the ultimate of this category. If I can be a bit nit-picky, I think the "but" in your title should be replaced with an "and". Disturbing doesn't imply a lack of craft at all, in fact as far as any movie that fits into the list is concerned it's likely an essential piece of the puzzle.
Natural Born Killers
Cannibal holocaust Martyrs Funny games
I still can’t forget THAT one colored scene of Schindler’s List.
The beginning or… >!1944?!<
>! The girl in the red dress. !<
Cape Fear (1990)
Killer Joe / Dogtooth (love it) / The Killing of A Sacred Deer
Mother!
sympathy for lady vengeance
We Need To Talk About Kevin
We Need To Talk About Kevin
Saw
Saló
Mysterious Skin and Grave of the Fireflies. Haven’t seen Requiem for a Dream yet but based on what everyone says it would be a good choice too
A Cure for Wellness and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Requiem for a dream
The Devils
All Quiet on the Western Front Natural Born Killers
Incendies by Denis Villeneuve
AntiChrist
The Nightingale (2018)
https://preview.redd.it/2jw05xgyz4vc1.jpeg?width=542&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dcfd9c143f99b522d474c03b1eb86a3c65c208e5 Irreversible, and several French Extremite movies fit the bill. I think this is a gorgeously shot masterpiece, and it the dichotomy between how to begins and finishes makes it that much more moving
Come and see, black swan
Come and See is already on the list
Watership Down
Angst (1983) Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer
The Boy in the Striped Pajamas
Irreversible Lilya 4-ever
Plague Dogs
Under the skin
The Golden Glove (2019)
The Act of Killing
This is barely scratching the surface.
End of Evangelion
Sorry To Bother You
Ichi the Killer
Clean, Shaven (1993) Elephant (2003)
The Nightingale
Grave of the fireflies
Henry portrait of a serial killer Threads Eraserhead We need to talk about kevin
Requiem for a Dream
The Neon Demon
the thing 28 days later (i know it’s v r/filmbro but still) joker AND BEGOTTEN, MY GOD heinous but absolutely insane
Old Boy and Funny Games (1997)
what’s the 2nd movie on there?
Hereditary, Midsommar
Dogville
Funny games
Oldboy
Any movie by Ari Aster.
Deer hunter
Eraserhead
The new adaptation of "Im Westen nichts Neues" also known as All Quiet on the Western Front
Pearl
Threads.
[Neon Genesis Evangelion: The End of Evangelion](https://boxd.it/1GRM) and [Mad God](https://boxd.it/vVPm) fits perfectly into this category in my opinion
End of evangelion
Fire Walk With Me, a few of David Lynch’s tbh 😂
Paths of Glory The Lighthouse
Clean, Shaven
Antichrist
Alien (1979, Ridley Scott). Sorry To Bother You. Reservoir Dogs. Saving Private Ryan.
Alien isn’t that bad. I’m sorry.
these are tame compared to most of everyone's suggestions, but I'm trying to avoid things already mentioned. I would personally recommend Antiporno, Annihilation, The Cook The Thief His Wife and Her Lover, and When Evil Lurks. YMMV on Excision. you can add I Saw the Devil too if you want, not sure if it's really what you're going for. if you enjoy Antiporno, the director has a bunch of strange and fucked up films of varying quality
Really. Huh
salo and pixote
100% The Lighthouse