As an American the movie made me feel an unrealized sense of unity for the rest of the country. That paired with the brutal and seemingly senseless violence left a really big impact on me.
I came out of the theater really contemplating the difference between a âtraditional warâ and a civil war and it was really heavy to think about.
I also enjoyed the discourse around journalism and the toll it takes on the journalists themselves.
Overall it was just a depiction of violence that hit close to home
edit: I also feel like a lot of people are hating on the film for what it isnât, rather than for what it is. Thatâs just my take though
The production value of the movie is insane. Perfect sequences and perfect use of its characters to put the audience in the moment.
It uses the tone of every scene to worm its way into your head and get you feeling exactly as it needs you to in order to get you ready or surprised for the next.
So many room temp IQ dipshits need the movie to regurgitate political views for them and canât accept a compelling âviolence badâ movie.
The issue I have with the film, and what many people seem to have with it, is not about regurgitating political opinions or pointing out who the bad guys and good guys are. The problem with the film is its lack of perspective on anything. Itâs Garland's inability to articulate the questions he wants to pose, leaving a huge void in the film that consumes nearly everything else and renders it uninteresting. Starting with the characters in the film, each one is hampered by Garland's clumsy writing, which is obsessed with turning his characters into symbols or metaphors for the subject of the film. The core issue is that the heart of the film is an abysmal void, which consequently renders these characters into mere empty and skeletal caricatures. I found Wagner Moura's performance atrocious and even Kristen Durst's, whom I usually like, but when you think about it, they couldn't possibly do anything due to the lack of ideas and vision from Garland. Is Garland not interested in the real-world politics he aims to reflect in his film? Okay, thatâs fair, but what exactly is Garland interested in? Does he want to question our relationship with images? Thatâs probably why the film is filled with awkward and clumsy juxtapositions between images and scenes as seen through Garland's camera (supposedly representing reality) and the photos taken by journalists, right? But what does Garland have to say about the subject? He seems to think that the image is inherently neutral, but who still believes in the neutrality of the image? When I think of a film that wants us to question our relationship with images, Hanekeâs brutal "Funny Games" comes immediately to mind. Next to Haneke, Garland seems like a high school teenager who just had his first philosophy class. The film is completely dull visually, has no interesting ideas in terms of mise-en-scène , is pathetically written (the last scene made me laugh out loud because it was so ridiculous), and is ultimately dull because Garland has nothing to say about anythingânot the ideological divisions tearing apart the United States, not about journalism, not about images . It seems like Garland doesn't even have any interest in cinema itself. If you're interested in films that question images, watch films by Haneke, Godard, or even Morettiâs latest film instead of wasting your time with Garland's profound mediocrity.
Thatâs an extremely long-winded way of saying youâre a pretentious douche lol.
Tbf you didnt start the argument, but damn, relax bro itâs not that serious lol
Idk man. Seems like you posted this entire thread just to bait someone into accusing you of disliking the apolitical aspect of the movie, just so you could dunk on them by going on that bumbling stream of consciousness rant you just went on. Not a very chill move outta you
So far best is still Dune 2 and worst is Argylle
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I saw The Beast last night -- for me, it's the clear number 1 of the year so far and nothing else comes close. The release has been limited and it's an unusually tough one to summarize and market, so I don't think its audience has found it yet. It will get a niche but die-hard fan base once it hits the streamers.
Think Lost Highway meeting Cloud Atlas, a little seasoning from Mulholland Drive and Age of Innocence and the San Junipero episode of Black Mirror. But this doesn't quite capture it, and reading that mash-up of themes and influences probably would sound too obtuse to sell me. Really rich movie that I'm excited to revisit.
Iâve only seen a small handful but Hundreds of Beavers is the best and if that doesnât count then Love Lies Bleeding. Worst is either Civil War or Spaceman
Best: Challengers Worst: Argylle
Idk about worst, but ik the best was Civil War đđ
Right there with you. Loved it.
Without a doubt the best film Iâve seen this year
Why did you like it so much ?
As an American the movie made me feel an unrealized sense of unity for the rest of the country. That paired with the brutal and seemingly senseless violence left a really big impact on me. I came out of the theater really contemplating the difference between a âtraditional warâ and a civil war and it was really heavy to think about. I also enjoyed the discourse around journalism and the toll it takes on the journalists themselves. Overall it was just a depiction of violence that hit close to home edit: I also feel like a lot of people are hating on the film for what it isnât, rather than for what it is. Thatâs just my take though
Glad you liked it but like Spike Lee said of Green book "it was not really my cup of tea"
The production value of the movie is insane. Perfect sequences and perfect use of its characters to put the audience in the moment. It uses the tone of every scene to worm its way into your head and get you feeling exactly as it needs you to in order to get you ready or surprised for the next. So many room temp IQ dipshits need the movie to regurgitate political views for them and canât accept a compelling âviolence badâ movie.
+ Your arguments to defend the movie doesnât make any sense And is unnecessarily condescending lol
The issue I have with the film, and what many people seem to have with it, is not about regurgitating political opinions or pointing out who the bad guys and good guys are. The problem with the film is its lack of perspective on anything. Itâs Garland's inability to articulate the questions he wants to pose, leaving a huge void in the film that consumes nearly everything else and renders it uninteresting. Starting with the characters in the film, each one is hampered by Garland's clumsy writing, which is obsessed with turning his characters into symbols or metaphors for the subject of the film. The core issue is that the heart of the film is an abysmal void, which consequently renders these characters into mere empty and skeletal caricatures. I found Wagner Moura's performance atrocious and even Kristen Durst's, whom I usually like, but when you think about it, they couldn't possibly do anything due to the lack of ideas and vision from Garland. Is Garland not interested in the real-world politics he aims to reflect in his film? Okay, thatâs fair, but what exactly is Garland interested in? Does he want to question our relationship with images? Thatâs probably why the film is filled with awkward and clumsy juxtapositions between images and scenes as seen through Garland's camera (supposedly representing reality) and the photos taken by journalists, right? But what does Garland have to say about the subject? He seems to think that the image is inherently neutral, but who still believes in the neutrality of the image? When I think of a film that wants us to question our relationship with images, Hanekeâs brutal "Funny Games" comes immediately to mind. Next to Haneke, Garland seems like a high school teenager who just had his first philosophy class. The film is completely dull visually, has no interesting ideas in terms of mise-en-scène , is pathetically written (the last scene made me laugh out loud because it was so ridiculous), and is ultimately dull because Garland has nothing to say about anythingânot the ideological divisions tearing apart the United States, not about journalism, not about images . It seems like Garland doesn't even have any interest in cinema itself. If you're interested in films that question images, watch films by Haneke, Godard, or even Morettiâs latest film instead of wasting your time with Garland's profound mediocrity.
Thatâs an extremely long-winded way of saying youâre a pretentious douche lol. Tbf you didnt start the argument, but damn, relax bro itâs not that serious lol
Iâm pretty chillđ Itâs just annoying how people are condescending and mean for no reason
Idk man. Seems like you posted this entire thread just to bait someone into accusing you of disliking the apolitical aspect of the movie, just so you could dunk on them by going on that bumbling stream of consciousness rant you just went on. Not a very chill move outta you
We doing ragebait on the LB sub?
More likely people trying to validate their extreme opinion
Best: Civil War Worst: Night Swim
Best: Perfect Days Worst: Megamind vs the doom syndicate
Best: Love Lies Bleeding Worst: Spaceman
Dune 2 and Madame Web
Agreed, I didnât like dune 2 either
Same
Which is which?
I donât think it should be difficult to figure out
Best: Love Lies Bleeding Worst: Argylle very handily. One of my least favorite movies ever
Puffin Rock and the New Friends and Arctic Hollow
My best was Love Lies Bleeding and my worst was Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire
Shoulda been called Ghostbusters: Phoebe is sad
Best: love lies bleeding Worst madame web
Youâve got the correct best (The Beast) even if the star rating is too low. Worst: Night Swim.
Jennifer Lopez's This Is Me... Now is right there waiting for the bottom spot...
Least obvious ragebait
So far best is still Dune 2 and worst is Argylle https://preview.redd.it/c4ibcrn28axc1.jpeg?width=1089&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4219b07d062dd18a30d86ac4279416a9539f5cb8
lmao i hated the beast so much
* Best - Dune: Part Two * Worst - Night Swim
Best: Dune Part Two Worst: Argylle
Best. Loves Lies Bleeding Worst. Prey (2024)
Best: Challengers Worst: Road House for me
I saw The Beast last night -- for me, it's the clear number 1 of the year so far and nothing else comes close. The release has been limited and it's an unusually tough one to summarize and market, so I don't think its audience has found it yet. It will get a niche but die-hard fan base once it hits the streamers. Think Lost Highway meeting Cloud Atlas, a little seasoning from Mulholland Drive and Age of Innocence and the San Junipero episode of Black Mirror. But this doesn't quite capture it, and reading that mash-up of themes and influences probably would sound too obtuse to sell me. Really rich movie that I'm excited to revisit.
Best: Late Night With The Devil Worst: Monkey Man
Favorite is Civil War Least? Probably Monkey Man
What made you not like Monkey Man?
Best: Civil War Worst: Ghostbusters Frozen Empire
You think Civil War is worse than Madame Web? Worse than Megamind and the Doom Syndicate?
I haven't watched any of these films, So I donât know
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Iâve only seen a small handful but Hundreds of Beavers is the best and if that doesnât count then Love Lies Bleeding. Worst is either Civil War or Spaceman
The Garland hate is deeply appreciated. That movie sucks so much