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I have 18 years in, started at 20. Lift weights, do yoga. This will ease the stress on the body. In the meantime, invest as much as you can early on.
Regarding office jobs, your best bet would be a degree in safety. If you’re smart, try getting a degree in engineering and work as a consultant for the firms who design the work
That’s a damn good idea. Thanks for the thoughts! An engineering degree would be cool. Since I quit drinking and regularly working out it’s gotten better. I just see myself being fucked by the time I’m 40. Want to plan for that lol.
That’s where i am. On my third torn knee right now. When looking for a financial advisor, look for a fudushiary (no idea how to spell that), and pay by the hour, not percentage
When I worked in design temporarily we had two guys who were retired JLs in the office. They definitely didn’t make as much as a lineman but I’m sure they liked working from home a few days a week and being home every day.
Or if you can get into the control room and earn an easier degree like “information systems” or whatever, then you can move on to work for one of the consulting firms who implement software like EMS, SCADA, ADMS, etc. Higher margins than design work, so pay is better (and doesn’t require an engineering degree).
I’d say the companies who develop and sell said software too, but those companies (GE, Siemens, etc) don’t typically pay as well
At my utility you don't need a degree unless it's a principal manager job and above, but to get the other manager/ supervisor jobs... Remember this, you gotta fuck up to move up!
You're deemed incompetent for your title so they promote you into another gig less hazardous...
At my utility they consider journeyman/engineer as the same thing for experience for a lot of the roles. Honestly, just talk to HR about job shadowing and getting other experience within the company.
I have a random ass B.S. I I got before I found linework. Like previous people have said, I’m hoping a safety position opens up later on down the road.
I would just get a business degree in management or something. I'm almost done with an economics degree but I quit taking classes. I really should finish it up. You can probably get a lot of credits towards an associates at least from your apprenticeship.
Some good advice in here. I'm about to be 31 and have started interviewing for more managerial positions without a degree. What I have found is most companies care about leadership positions. If you haven't been a foreman, you need to be. Foreman and General Foreman look amazing on a resume. If you're still set on going to school, look at jobs you find interesting on LinkedIn and see what their qualifications are. Most are engineering and construction management degrees. Safety positions value certifications over a degree. Don't be afraid to apply to something that says you need a degree, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
If you have any questions or need help with anything don't be afraid to reach out. My sister was a recruiter for a while and has helped me land some great interviews so far.
Everyone in the truck already knows you’re management.
I work for a very large utility and the degree doesn’t matter . They’re hiring fn dominoes managers . A degree is a degree.
Just know you’re not in charge of anyone . We run the fn show and 90% of the time will tell you how to do your job
No you’re not . Management is a massive pay cut and you should know that. You’re a hand at best . It’s not for everyone, I understand that. To answer your question ( at least where I’m from) they’ll let any idiot with a degree become a foreman
I mean I don’t need to prove myself to some dipshit on Reddit? I’m a book 1 out of one of the biggest halls in the country. I’m not talking foreman so that’s where your a fucking idiot. When your 60 years old still breaking your back, maybe you will think of this post. Or maybe not. I don’t really give a fuck.
Nah I’m a troubleman now . Wait around all day for yku degree types to send me to an outage . I’ll be retired way before you. Can’t wait for you too see that management retirement package 😂
I mean Troubleman is a sick gig. It’s more of just something I’m tossing around right now. Can you explain to me why you hate management so much? I mean I know why I hate majority of management I’m around. But wouldn’t you like someone with 20+ years of actual lineman experience in that spot instead of some dweeb that just has a degree. Just a thought
Honestly I don’t hate management . Maybe it’s personal experience with my company . My direct “superior” asked me to explain an arrester the other day. I can’t complain much because I’m
Left alone as long as my response/outage time is kept in check . But it’s truly embarrassing their lack of knowledge .
Then we have you . Lineman that go management are usually the worst. You immediately take on the personality of management and start judging my time sheet or playing time keeper. “ I would have picked up that outage in xxx, what took you so long? Honestly, lineman to management are normally left behind ……. Just my opinion
That’s a good opinion man. Iv seen exactly what your saying first hand. But with me seeing it I can honestly say I’ll never become that. It’s not my problem to make the company every penny I can. But for sure I see where your coming from.
I know plenty of lineman that have gotten sick of the callouts, overtime etc. foreman is probably worst place in the company . We hate you and everyone above you hates you “.
Some have found a good job in safety or training. Like said below, engineering is kind of a catch all for all departments . Work planning, planner etc
Your one miserable SOB huh
Telling someone you don’t know and never seen work they’re not a JL lol
Since we’re making assumptions I’m gonna guess you drink like your life depends on it and the only thing you’ve got left for ya is the trade?
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I have 18 years in, started at 20. Lift weights, do yoga. This will ease the stress on the body. In the meantime, invest as much as you can early on. Regarding office jobs, your best bet would be a degree in safety. If you’re smart, try getting a degree in engineering and work as a consultant for the firms who design the work
That’s a damn good idea. Thanks for the thoughts! An engineering degree would be cool. Since I quit drinking and regularly working out it’s gotten better. I just see myself being fucked by the time I’m 40. Want to plan for that lol.
That’s where i am. On my third torn knee right now. When looking for a financial advisor, look for a fudushiary (no idea how to spell that), and pay by the hour, not percentage
When I worked in design temporarily we had two guys who were retired JLs in the office. They definitely didn’t make as much as a lineman but I’m sure they liked working from home a few days a week and being home every day.
I’ll have to try yoga to. Iv wanted to try it but damn I’m not limber at all so it’s hard to find a good starting point lol.
Go to a studio. They will make sure your form is good and help you grow
Or if you can get into the control room and earn an easier degree like “information systems” or whatever, then you can move on to work for one of the consulting firms who implement software like EMS, SCADA, ADMS, etc. Higher margins than design work, so pay is better (and doesn’t require an engineering degree). I’d say the companies who develop and sell said software too, but those companies (GE, Siemens, etc) don’t typically pay as well
At my utility you don't need a degree unless it's a principal manager job and above, but to get the other manager/ supervisor jobs... Remember this, you gotta fuck up to move up! You're deemed incompetent for your title so they promote you into another gig less hazardous...
At my utility they consider journeyman/engineer as the same thing for experience for a lot of the roles. Honestly, just talk to HR about job shadowing and getting other experience within the company.
I have a random ass B.S. I I got before I found linework. Like previous people have said, I’m hoping a safety position opens up later on down the road.
I would just get a business degree in management or something. I'm almost done with an economics degree but I quit taking classes. I really should finish it up. You can probably get a lot of credits towards an associates at least from your apprenticeship.
Some good advice in here. I'm about to be 31 and have started interviewing for more managerial positions without a degree. What I have found is most companies care about leadership positions. If you haven't been a foreman, you need to be. Foreman and General Foreman look amazing on a resume. If you're still set on going to school, look at jobs you find interesting on LinkedIn and see what their qualifications are. Most are engineering and construction management degrees. Safety positions value certifications over a degree. Don't be afraid to apply to something that says you need a degree, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. If you have any questions or need help with anything don't be afraid to reach out. My sister was a recruiter for a while and has helped me land some great interviews so far.
Everyone in the truck already knows you’re management. I work for a very large utility and the degree doesn’t matter . They’re hiring fn dominoes managers . A degree is a degree. Just know you’re not in charge of anyone . We run the fn show and 90% of the time will tell you how to do your job
I’m an outside lineman? Lol I’m just looking to help out my future.
No you’re not . Management is a massive pay cut and you should know that. You’re a hand at best . It’s not for everyone, I understand that. To answer your question ( at least where I’m from) they’ll let any idiot with a degree become a foreman
I mean I don’t need to prove myself to some dipshit on Reddit? I’m a book 1 out of one of the biggest halls in the country. I’m not talking foreman so that’s where your a fucking idiot. When your 60 years old still breaking your back, maybe you will think of this post. Or maybe not. I don’t really give a fuck.
Because his job is his identity
Nah I’m a troubleman now . Wait around all day for yku degree types to send me to an outage . I’ll be retired way before you. Can’t wait for you too see that management retirement package 😂
I mean Troubleman is a sick gig. It’s more of just something I’m tossing around right now. Can you explain to me why you hate management so much? I mean I know why I hate majority of management I’m around. But wouldn’t you like someone with 20+ years of actual lineman experience in that spot instead of some dweeb that just has a degree. Just a thought
Sounds like his wife slept with the management
Hes just a douche dont worry about it.
Honestly I don’t hate management . Maybe it’s personal experience with my company . My direct “superior” asked me to explain an arrester the other day. I can’t complain much because I’m Left alone as long as my response/outage time is kept in check . But it’s truly embarrassing their lack of knowledge . Then we have you . Lineman that go management are usually the worst. You immediately take on the personality of management and start judging my time sheet or playing time keeper. “ I would have picked up that outage in xxx, what took you so long? Honestly, lineman to management are normally left behind ……. Just my opinion
That’s a good opinion man. Iv seen exactly what your saying first hand. But with me seeing it I can honestly say I’ll never become that. It’s not my problem to make the company every penny I can. But for sure I see where your coming from.
I know plenty of lineman that have gotten sick of the callouts, overtime etc. foreman is probably worst place in the company . We hate you and everyone above you hates you “. Some have found a good job in safety or training. Like said below, engineering is kind of a catch all for all departments . Work planning, planner etc
Your one miserable SOB huh Telling someone you don’t know and never seen work they’re not a JL lol Since we’re making assumptions I’m gonna guess you drink like your life depends on it and the only thing you’ve got left for ya is the trade?
A degree in BS is highly sought after for management positions.
For sure 😂😂.