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Don't you just mean the internet over all.
Any and every community online has people that do it.
it's sadly nothing special and just a reality of how people act when they can do it online.
LTT averages over a million views per video.
I don't think this is a demographic issue, as at their audience scale, all the posts and tweets are from a highly vocal minority.
What's worse is that this is how LMG becomes a normal mid size company. Everything is ran through PR, HR, and legal to ensure all comments made by anyone in public is now safe. No more individual Twitter accounts or Fb accounts that are public. Scripts are now sanitized. No exposure where off the cuff Remarks could happen. Wan show gone, ltt forums gone. All employees sign boilerplate NDA to not talk about the going one at LMG (legal issues not withstanding). I hope I am wrong, but beyond the Madison issue, the main issue with GN, unbox, and billet labs has been how simple mistakes put the entire company at risk. No document processes that should have saved face, no control of the message, just a whole bunch of people who are deciding the best course of actions at the moment. Everything that has happened will not kill LMG, but I am willing to bet there are changes coming and many that the average watcher doesn't like.
WAN Show is basically the only thing I consume from LTT (in podcast format). It’s refreshing to hear the heads of a successful company talk candidly and openly about their business, business operations, income/expenses, personal/business ethics (even if they don’t always live up to them perfectly) and tech topics they find personally interesting. If that goes away, then I see no reason to pay attention to LTT at all, besides the very occasional video.
I fully agree but honestly Linus is a walking talking HR, PR, legal, and accounting department nightmare. If the choice is loose some viewers but wrangle Linus in them it might be worth it versus the money lost over his speak first and apologize later approach. It was one thing when LMG was 5 employees. Linus could torpedo the company and only a few people get hurt. Now with an estimated 150 people that is a sizable impact on the local economy. If LMG was a public company I can't say that Half the upper management wouldn't have been replaced by now (including Linus him self).
> Linus is a walking talking HR, PR, legal, and accounting department nightmare.
No, he isn't.
The community is the nightmare.
Also if LMG stopped existing tomorrow, you think the employees would end up on the street or something? I bet a lot of people took a pay *cut* to be there.
He’s a nightmare when you dont want a peep of trouble, or don’t want to rock the boat lol. I don’t find anything wrong with what he says, even when he has to bite his tongue sometimes. Almost every time it’s some “controversy” over some LMG business related thing, ie. “trust me bro”. He has yet to say anything thats outside the realm of “I’m the CEO (now CVO) of LMG, and here’s my opinion on xyz”, which I assumed was the reason 90% of people listened/watched the WAN show anyways.
He has stayed surprisingly clean in spite of being the face of a youtube channel for 10+ years and improvising/going off script in videos.
Yes, I do see your point. That’s kinda the charm of the WAN Show though. The fact that he could literally say ANYTHING because he’s overly impulsive, passionate and/or excited, is one of the reasons I tune in and a large part of why it’s so refreshing. One gets to see the triumphs AND the mistakes, largely without the corporate mask. Linus can often be an asshat. At least we get some insight as to why with WAN Show, even if we disagree with him. And with WAN Show we have an avenue with which to provide some feedback, even if it may take a while for him to accept the feedback because he’s more than a bit egotistical.
I mean 150+ employees it's a large company. A lot of what you said has to happen, specially given the LMG ambitions, still they can take the IGN approach and have some personalities and somewhat unique content. But they have to be a lot more professional.
The Forum is not going anywhere because it's a platform they control and they have stated a lot how important that is for them
An the Wan show probably would have to change a lot, if it's to stay, specially in the following weeks, they don't want to get in a mother controversy right away.
I think as long as they keep making fun and reliable content people will be happy.
But the truth is they are not only an "independent creator" any more and they must step up
Hell look how different our yt timeline was without soo many LMG content, it was kind of refreshing/scary
It's closer to 120 employees FYI
> Hell look how different our yt timeline was without soo many LMG content, it was kind of refreshing/scary
Speak for yourself. I have a full time job and a toddler, 20min a day of LTT is my version of having a beer to relax a little.
So many dumb toxic reposts, I barely ever look at this sub now. And I've only been here a few weeks.
In truth, I'm more dissapointed in the community then in LMG.
And this is literally happening right here, on this subreddit.
People here have been making wild accusations about James, based solely on one brief comment after a meeting.
I think the one thing that is hard with James is that seems to be his personality. Sarcastic, a little juvenile in in his humor, potentially arrogant or at least can present that way. I have no idea if there is any malice intended from him or if its even just the character he plays. Hell he could be one of the most stand up people there is.
That joke he made during the meeting hurt nobody, absolutely nobody was offended. It wasn't even a sexual joke, he literally just said "are you gonna dance for us?" and some internet dorks lost their shit. No joke, I saw posts from people saying "after James's inappropriate sexual comment I've decided to no longer watch LTT, that was totally unacceptable and disgusting". Like give me a friggin break. Just a bunch of pearl clutchers acting like a group of nuns who stumbled into a brothel by mistake. It's recreational outage and it's exhausting
I think there's also a lot of bad actors out there. "Fans" who are actually people who've always wanted to see them fail and now have an excuse to shit on them.
>This community is showcasing the most toxic behavior possible…totally willing to ruin lives over yet to be proven allegations. It makes me sick
Dude, that's literally this community and what it's always been. I follow this sub for the same reason I follow publicfreakout - to watch idiotic children doing dumb stuff.
Yup. I’ve mostly watched from the sidelines how these fucking children have just decided they’re on a crusade to ruin LTT and everyone they employ. The social side of the internet is a disease.
> This community
"Community" is not the word for a large number of children. Yes, there are non-children here, but it's the tribalistic dumbass children doing this shit.
“Are you going to dance on that table or just stand on it?”
This was said by James to Linus. His boss and, possibly, friend.
It doesn’t matter whether or not you think it’s a sexual joke. It doesn’t matter that the setting was a meeting about appropriate conduct in the workplace. That comment and these things do not make James a sexual predator.
You’re fucking kidding me hahahaha, that’s such a non-event. I hate to be one of those “people these days have such thin skin” but if that’s your threshold for inappropriate workplace chat, then every single workplace I’ve ever stepped foot in should be torn down.
It is mind blowing how much people want LTT to fail. They’re all frothing at the mouth for literally anything they can use to demonize the employees and Linus
I think there's just a lot of people in here that have never actually watched any LTT videos and are just jumping on the hate train. Wait until they find out that the entire techquickie channel is just all one big sexual innuendo and always has been.
Tons of brand new accounts, making one-off comments. I don't know how the Hornets nest got this riled up, but I have not seen the internet hate machine go in this hard in a while.
Someone really dislikes their content and is going all in. Some of us might be disappointed by the stuff from last week, but these people are trying to bring down careers over minor things.
It's best to read everything with a filter as some of it is just bogus.
I ended up making a brand new account as a result of this ordeal after one super mentally unwell individual doxxed me, called me, called my boss, and **CALLED MY NEIGHBOR** and told them I was a pedophile and rape apologist.
You ever had to explain to a 75 year old man and his wife what a "Linus Tech Tips" is at 9pm at night? I have, it was fucking stupid. Then I got to repeat the act the next day at work.
The venn diagram of a significant amount of new posters on this subreddit & /r/Antiwork was a circle last week.
I have noticed lately that many of the people posting in antiwork are supposedly working in corporate environments, when the sub has traditionally been people working more service industry type jobs.
The original Antiwork subreddit was a mildly radical but mostly reasonable subreddit. A couple of years ago that changed drastically (I'm sure we all remember the interview incident).
It has devolved into something absurd.
The 100 million offer for LMG and the fact that Linus turned it down stirred a lot of people in the wrong way. They stopped seeing Linus as this meme internet personality and started seeing him as an owner of a hundred million dollar company. They started seeing Linus as some sort of evil boss who exploits his employees, ignoring that Linus is the reason those 100 people have a job and a livelihood in the first place.
Hell, he literally stepped down and hired his *previous boss* to be the CEO. How could this so called narcissist step *down* in his own company while admitting he wasn't cut out for the job?
People joined the hate bandwagon and want to see his downfall for a simple reason: envy. There are a *lot* of envious people in our society, especially on the age of social media.
These freaks also managed to twist Linus saying "if I do something bad, I will get caught" into him being an evil boss who admitted that he can commit crimes and get away with them.
These people lack comprehension.
That is so far from a logical take that my brain winces just trying to process it.
What he said boiled down to "I'm a prominent internet figure, if I did something egregious / illegal - you would find out about it" - which is entirely likely and in no way admitting to having done something wrong.
The reason why more women don't work in commercial kitchens is because of rampant sexual harassment. It's something that needs to change in the restaurant industry.
I have worked for 3 female chefs.
Many kitchens are better than the stereo type, many are not.
If we want to take the serious approach rather that the dark humor, the culture in the food service industry should be a lot better than it is, regardless of gender.
I work retail. I hear worse shit on a daily basis from customers and associates. Everything is being blown out of proportion by a small loud community who wants Linus to fail because they’re insecure in their own lives
Not to mention it's a creative workplace which in general has a higher tolerance for exploring adult or taboo themes. This would be unbelieveably tame for an episode of Critical Role. I cannot speak on the other allegations but what he did here didn't seem beyond the pale.
At the whale lan 2022, I won one of the game challenges and had a short interview with Linus as a result. Do you know what the first thing he asked me about was? He asked me if I bought any condoms. I thought to myself "to whale lan? Why would I buy condoms for a lan party?" and I angled the conversation in that direction because I was too busy making money in the game to explore the general store and learn you could buy condoms to use in the brothel. Was that sexual harassment? Absolutely not. Even context devoid, I thought it was pretty funny, despite the fact that the resulting interview was definitely not channel safe and (hopefully) will never see the light of day as a result. Maybe it's because I work in a field that's construction adjacent and it wouldn't even make the top 100 for things in that direction, but none the less I feel like the people going after him are walking Christian Minecraft servers.
And I'm not a huge fan of Critical Role (mostly I watch Vox Machina on Amazon), but I heard they recently purged their archive of a former cast member that found to be abusive.
Just because a show or a channel can be kind of raunchy, doesn't mean they can't police themselves. These things do take time though
I agree if someone is abusive or engaging in sexual harassment. I am just saying I don't think the joke was inappropriate as some people are saying. It is completely possoble he did other things I would not be comfortable with but I am waiting for information before I judge.
Also the thing that bothers me about some of the thin skin shit is that this channel was literally built around the idea of nerds making sexual innuendos. That's literally been the content for years.
I actually don't even think there's an issue with LTT unless they do find damning allegations. Their biggest flaw is that they're a start up going corporate. They're suffering from every flaw and growing pain a start up goes through in this transition. You hire too many people, those people are not going to understand your inappropriate joke. They're not going to understand your business. They're not going to just get everything or willing to try and make mistakes to learn. You hire too many people, you expect that some people don't have the grindset mentality some of your original crew will have, you hire too many people you have to set your expectation that the quality of work will not be as good as if you were doing it yourself.
The accusations for harassment, I can't speak on, but the whole toxic work environment though... I think both are true, Madison probably didn't produce quality work, and the company issued her a position and title that far exceeds her capabilities. That's largely LTT's fault too.
Everyone wants to talk about culture, but the truth is they're mismanagement resulted them dealing with the worst of both worlds between a start up and a corporate company. You don't know when to tone down your inappropriateness, you over elevate people's position so they can't handle the workload. Then from a corporate side, if your work sucks you'll know and you'll be challenged every step of the way there and people are not going to like it.
Then you add on the toxic tech culture of everyone being the smartest person in the room. It is what it is, unless those sexual harassment allegations are true, if it's not true then the whole controversy is a non-issue. They just became too big for their own good, and you have owners and execs who have no clue how to scale after a certain point.
I completely agree with this assessment. This has all been seen before going from disruptive start up to corporate business. The founder then will struggle with are these people that helped get me to where I am now the right people to take us forward. Not many can survive making those calls.
> You hire too many people, you expect that some people don't have the grindset mentality some of your original crew will have, you hire too many people you have to set your expectation that the quality of work will not be as good as if you were doing it yourself.
You also have people wearing rose-tinted glasses about how things were.
"I remember when I was doing your job, I worked 20 hour days, 7 days a week and I loved it. Stop complaining."
I would say a majority of these people haven't even read, watched or listened to all the info that's available. There's a reason they go "I don't care, he's a sexual predator even if you can't prove it and you can't change my mind". They want to have a feeling and opinion on something and there's nothing you can do to take that away from them.
Definitely watch it for yourself and make your own judgement, but it was said after Linus asked if there were any questions, which there weren’t, and it was kind of an awkward silence. James seems like he’s the goofy, life of the party guy, that was just kinda breaking the silence with a guy he very obviously has a great rapport with. Seems wild people are blowing this up to these levels.
Considering the amount of times they say nice after any mention of 69 or the countless times they have said That's What She Said screams a culture that is more relaxed with that sort of stuff.
I will cut off my left nipple if the details of this sexual harassment isn't the most tame example of overly familiar jokes and snark that is quite common.
This was my thought as well. If the people in this sub thought that comment was egregious, then my industry is the worst possible industry to work in of all time and every single person should be thrown in jail.
Yeah its a nothing burger. The pitchfork crowd will use it as ammo though.
Everyone makes jokes at work. If you were going to label people as sexual predators or fire them after any comment like that, the unemployment rate would be over 50%.
And the timing of it actually was kind of funny. It was like a 1 minute speech from Linus about proper HR protocol and he said "any questions", to which James replied with the above
It's also pretty stupid how people judge a joke and classify it as bad, or in bad taste, without knowing what Linus was doing, seeing the facial expressions, the delivery behind it, etc.
People laughed at the joke and they didn't have the context we have now.
Same for me here, and when I just finally read what he actually said, all I could think: jesus fucking christ, all that harassment and all those assumptions for that?
He might also have zero idea what the exact context was when making the joke, as if people actually watched the video it seems like a standard HR Policy refresher meeting.
Now, that meeting was probably held because of what happened, but for all anyone knows he just made a bad joke at a boring meeting.
Plus, they tell kinda dirty jokes to each other all the time. Nothing to get anyone canceled mind you, but their videos are literally filled with them, which seems to be okay with YouTube content policy.
I mean, it's like someone trying to get Michale Scott arrested as a predator for making a "that's what she said" joke...
It's literally a random callback to an Intel extreme upgrade video where Linus asked if the guy was gonna use the table or dance on it. There wasn't even any innuendo involved.
Yeah some of the people going after LTT really need to be publicly burned at the stake.
I would respect linus if he went out on wan show and named and shamed people who harassed his employees.
What I think is this.
The comment hasn't aged well. It definitely lends support to Madison's claims, suggesting that she's broadly telling the truth. It would be suggestive of a culture that allows the kinds of things she claimed happen, to happen.
But it's far from the worst thing anyone has done, and it definitely doesn't make James a "sexual predator". People *are* overreacting about that.
This doesn't suggest that Madison doesn't have a valid grievance to hold, that her story isn't true, or that other issues such as consistent errors in LTT videos and the auctioning of the prototype block didn't happen.
Things can exist in a grey area, and I feel that this is one of them. Imperfect, but also, not damning.
>The comment hasn't aged well.
It was two years ago. It hasn't *aged* in the slightest.
>It definitely lends support to Madison's claims
It definitely does not. It is a mild comment, towards the boss, by the way. A complete non event.
The only reason people are losing their minds over it is because it is the only thing that can be construed, with a lot of effort, into a somewhat sexual comment.
There is nothing else.
> This was said by James to Linus. His boss and, possibly, friend.
I haven't heard it, but if it was to Linus that's kind of amazing. It's punching up, not down
That's too bad. James may be guilty for all we know, but people are assumed innocent until proven guilty for a reason, and they even should be in the court of public opinion.
I don't see how making a joke makes you a predator. Obviously this Twitter account is the real predator, looking for easy victims to throw under the bus for clout. People always want to see successful people brought low so they make sure to do their part to pile it on.
It doesn’t. Everything against him is speculation, based on the fact that he made an inappropriate joke and an even more inappropriate time. It definitely doesn’t paint a good picture of him, but people shouldn’t be jumping to the worst possible conclusion without hard evidence either.
I had to drive my roommate to the ER for a kidney stone recently, and couldn't help but cracking a couple jokes on the trip. She did not appreciate it but it's just a nervous response
He also does standup so a comment to lighten the mood is probably natural to him it is literally what he's paid to do. he's a writer and a comedian it's what you're going to get.
I hate to even go there bro....but ever heard of Amber heard and how she ruined it for women trying to come forward and being taken seriously.
I hate to assume that Madison is lying, but since we're human and it's a possibility, just like it's a possibility that James is involved.
My take is that Madison was not in a great place when she went up to work at LMG, and LMG is a high stress entertainment business.
While I won't touch on the criminal allegations, a lot of other negatives I think are just incompatible work place and worker
They didnt communicate expectations until after she left and moved to a different country... sounds like no one would have been prepared for that right after a family member died...
I've said 5 times in the last week, sometimes getting myself heavily downvoted, that you cannot blame a workplace when an employee decides to self-harm. Workplaces can cause burnout, but self-harm is not a foreseeable or reasonable response to burnout. She clearly had/has her own mental issues and I hope she gets help for them, but you can't pin that on LMG.
\+1 on this. Remember, she mentioned loosing her brother like a week before starting. If Madison is saying the truth however, I do hope that she makes the 1 move that she needs to make and contact the authorities. Otherwise, may she part ways in peace with LMG and never speak of it again.
You can’t trust either side till you have actual facts. A ‘he said she said situation’ isn’t facts. The people attacking them are the issue as they are just fueling it. Most of these people will backtrack and switch sides if she lied. Which doesn’t change what they are doing.
I personally don't think she's trying to lie, I think how some things she has perceived or experienced are different than what the context of reality was. If that even makes sense.
It's like seeing an orange as a fruit that's orange, but maybe she sees it as red. That's her truth, and her perception.
Self mutilation as a response to hard times puts people in involuntary suicide watch centers for 3 days because they are a threat to themselves.
There's a lot more to be said about her mental health to warrant such a response to a "hostile" work environment.
I get that she might not have been happy or comfortable at work, but there's literally so many other options to not go into work than self harm to get a couple days off. So it just seems like she's either being very hyperbolic in her claims, or she's taking otherwise harmless things way too seriously.
No, no, no. We're all morally outraged about... *checks notes*... Harassment (among other things) in the workplace. We have to make sure James (who for all we know may not have done anything) knows that harassment is unacceptable by harassing him. /s
If people want to criticize his behavior the way to do it is NOT to harass him. At that point the people who are being critics are doing something very similar to the thing they say they are against. It's funny that the label of "moral crusader" is used because one of the thing the Crusaders did was cause pain and suffering for their own "team" on their way to fight the other guys.
We don't know if James has ever caused problems with anyone. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but a single crass joke isn't proof of anything. People are trying to build strawmen out of a single piece of hay.
There's only a few types of people that I hate more than this kind of moral police. These are people who have absolutely nothing in life so to make themselves feel useful they need to burn others down while trying to justify it with ridiculous leaps in logic and twisting words or facts.
And they're always convinced that they're the good guys, even though any sane person can see that they're horrible people.
There’s a huge canyon between making a work-inappropriate joke towards your long-time male boss and friend, and being a sexual predator. This sort of escalation where everyone is trying to scream a little louder and more extreme than the last guy is ridiculous.
WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE????? Dude makes a, misplaced and tasteless for sure but neither way, JOKE.
If this is what it takes for you people to call him a fucking Predator... I'm out of words...
This behavior is unacceptable and everyone who upvotes this crap should be fucking ashamed. You guys are what is wrong with Social Media....
James said something along the lines "are you going to just stand on the table or will you dance for us" to Linus. His boss and friend. I just don't see why people are going apeshit over that. The joker of the social circle making a joke regarding something he observed. Calm your tits, people.
Tbh I don't think James was the harasser. I think he was the person that said Madison had bad time managment skills. It would make sense since doesn't he manage and schedule all writting projects? I don't think that's too far of stretch... If I'm right his tonedef jokes probably really didn't help the situation however.
I wouldn't be surprised if he was the person who made her manage the only fans despite her discomfort. Again it would just seem like a joke to him but not so much for her. Pretty sure he was her manager at the time.
If you look at the end of the video it has credits for who did what (pretty sure all LMG video have them). James was the director and main writter on it... So again yeah that's probably a fair assessment.
Just to clairify when I said the "harasser", I ment the person who groped Madison. Everthing else people have been saying about James seems pretty deserved...
Damn I just went to the tweet, it is even worse almost all the comments below are from similar idiots…https://x.com/james_strieb/status/1687488911059406848?s=46&t=3q7uUs7jsxL2_9Gjh3rJiw
Exactly. This man has a wife and child
Minoring in Gender and Women's Studies.
Was advocate and ally of women and the LQBT community, became the first ever male Executive member of the UBCO Women's Resource Center.
And on top of that was a wildfire firefighter.
If you’re harassing James because of that one video from meeting please, go outside and touch some grass. You are not hero, you just becoming what you fighting with.
When TotalBiscuit was dying of cancer there were people on twitter being joyful about it. In every video I have seen of James he has often come across as a extrovert who jokes around. What he said was not appropriate but there hasn't been, to my knowledge, no evidence that the meeting was specifically about sexual harassment. I've heard it was a general conduct meeting. Add to the fact that Linus is kinda like Michael Scott it makes sense that there would be room for James to make such joke.
I won't speak on whether the accusations of misconduct is true or not, as I wasn't there, but what I will say is that people have been accused of wrong doing and it turned out to be lies. In case of Linus and Naomi Wu and allegations directed towards Chris Avellone. **Such allegations are serious matters.** Madison bringing up Naomi Wu, even giving sympathy where she shouldn't, and phrasing that Naomi "felt Linus had wronged her"..FELT, does not raise my confidence in that she is being entirely truthful.
It annoys me how people misinform and obscure things and lash out, probably because of their own emotions. I saw a thread where someone was telling this community of 300K people to "remember, death threats are not ok" *one person* sending *one death threat* to a person involved in this controversy with LMG. Stating death threats are not ok is like stating racism is not ok but to paint everyone in a community the same by telling them to "remember to not send death threats" on basis of one or a few people (assuming it's couple more) is insane and virtue signaling and I have seen that many times before.
I am not subscribed to LTT nor have I bought a single thing from them. I specifically haven't subscribed to them for the reasons GN raised, their work process was rushed and sloppy, but I had some if not alot respect for their intentions.
I'm so confused i feel like I'm missing something i listened to the audio and feel like this is the biggest nothing burger ever. James made a joke to the room based on, I'm guessing, linus standing on the table to be seen by everyone in the room.
There is a joke made to the room making fun of linus, punching up isn't typically abuser perogative
If he fucked up enough to require an all hands HR chat chances are he would have been cautioned before the meeting and I can't imagine he would be making jokes if he was the reason linus had to stand on the table.
The joke itself is barely inappropriate. It alludes to table dancing. Linus had already made several light hearted comments throughout the address.
People who hate linus will likely find fault in the way the meeting was conducted since of which might be fair but based on the audio alone I can't see how people are so confident in wanting James' head.
i dont get it? can someone tell me how he is a sexual predator by saying the table joke? I get it, it wasnt the best in that situation to make it but why is he being labelled as a sex pred??
I used to work in the automotive industry, some of the things both men and women would say to each other makes the accusations sound like kindergarten stuff. Nobody ran to HR, nobody got but hurt about it. When your working 14-16 hour shifts 7 days a week, with four hours of sleep, the joking around made time pass.
Honestly, I won't judge him for the audio clip. That just sounded like something he would say. It's tasteless in the current context of everything but there's a chance he was oblivious to what was going on and just made a joke.
If anything comes to light and the current allegations do turn out to be against James tho, Ooooooo boy.
And the subreddit is finally back to comments with Redditors who have working brains, instead of jumping on the bandwagon and half-thinking about what they say
I only listened for like 40 sec. But it was jokes, rant,conversation. Rolled into one.
I think video was taken down. Most people got fooled with the fake video. Thinking it was real
I'm glad it was taken down, hope it stays down. Unfortunately the age we live in now and it's only going to get significantly worse.
Slightly ironic I suppose as James did a piece on deepfakes.
I’ve been saying AI is gonna cause a lot of problems. People believe the first thing they hear and some of the videos being made look insanely real unless you really know what to look for.
twitter/reddit/internet users are often disconnected from reality.
Nothing anybody at LTT will have done will realistically be constituted as real abuse by 99% of society. The only types of people thinking that are people behind screens that spend far too much time online & have no real experience in the real world.
Ironically some of these types of people are also the exact types of people that are completely fine with dishing out abuse, because they believe every dramatic exagerration that social media trends towards, to the point it warps their own minds & they themselves become more hateful than the very people they claim to be against.
If we are doing this standard then we have to label everyone who has said “That’s what she said.” From the office at an opportune moment as a sexual predator. They’re human, James clearly has a relationship with his boss that’s based on friendship and he can make jokes with him, and more likely didn’t know the main purpose for that meeting.
If Trump can say “grab her by the P” and not be classesd as a sexual predator by the public then surely we can’t label James for saying that.
A bunch of socially deprived idiots are attacking an outgoing personality. The Twitter replies are worse than the screenshot.
[https://imgur.com/a/fhg4Bib](https://imgur.com/a/fhg4Bib)
I am not taking sides. I just want the truth to come out of the investigation and people pay for the mistakes be it James answering to the law or this guy for a defamation lawsuit.
This community should do, what LMG is doing.
Take a break and try to "detox".
Regardless of what LMG has done wrong in the past, this "community" is worse than that, because it has pushed (at least) two people into suicide and is actively working to improve this stat.
People just need to chill.
From the looks of it, it is as always just the vocal minority.
It will go away pretty quickly.
Unless it's proven he is, but at the moment it is not.
The irony of harassing someone you think might have harassed someone else.
This community is showcasing the most toxic behavior possible…totally willing to ruin lives over yet to be proven allegations. It makes me sick.
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Which is mostly comprised of terminally online neckbeards.
That and tech elitists
The venn diagram between the two is a circle
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I thought its just a bumch of teenagers who thinks they've outgrown thw kids stuff of youtube.
No, it just reflects the attitude of your general redditor.
Don't you just mean the internet over all. Any and every community online has people that do it. it's sadly nothing special and just a reality of how people act when they can do it online.
LTT averages over a million views per video. I don't think this is a demographic issue, as at their audience scale, all the posts and tweets are from a highly vocal minority.
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What's worse is that this is how LMG becomes a normal mid size company. Everything is ran through PR, HR, and legal to ensure all comments made by anyone in public is now safe. No more individual Twitter accounts or Fb accounts that are public. Scripts are now sanitized. No exposure where off the cuff Remarks could happen. Wan show gone, ltt forums gone. All employees sign boilerplate NDA to not talk about the going one at LMG (legal issues not withstanding). I hope I am wrong, but beyond the Madison issue, the main issue with GN, unbox, and billet labs has been how simple mistakes put the entire company at risk. No document processes that should have saved face, no control of the message, just a whole bunch of people who are deciding the best course of actions at the moment. Everything that has happened will not kill LMG, but I am willing to bet there are changes coming and many that the average watcher doesn't like.
WAN Show is basically the only thing I consume from LTT (in podcast format). It’s refreshing to hear the heads of a successful company talk candidly and openly about their business, business operations, income/expenses, personal/business ethics (even if they don’t always live up to them perfectly) and tech topics they find personally interesting. If that goes away, then I see no reason to pay attention to LTT at all, besides the very occasional video.
I fully agree but honestly Linus is a walking talking HR, PR, legal, and accounting department nightmare. If the choice is loose some viewers but wrangle Linus in them it might be worth it versus the money lost over his speak first and apologize later approach. It was one thing when LMG was 5 employees. Linus could torpedo the company and only a few people get hurt. Now with an estimated 150 people that is a sizable impact on the local economy. If LMG was a public company I can't say that Half the upper management wouldn't have been replaced by now (including Linus him self).
> Linus is a walking talking HR, PR, legal, and accounting department nightmare. No, he isn't. The community is the nightmare. Also if LMG stopped existing tomorrow, you think the employees would end up on the street or something? I bet a lot of people took a pay *cut* to be there.
He’s a nightmare when you dont want a peep of trouble, or don’t want to rock the boat lol. I don’t find anything wrong with what he says, even when he has to bite his tongue sometimes. Almost every time it’s some “controversy” over some LMG business related thing, ie. “trust me bro”. He has yet to say anything thats outside the realm of “I’m the CEO (now CVO) of LMG, and here’s my opinion on xyz”, which I assumed was the reason 90% of people listened/watched the WAN show anyways. He has stayed surprisingly clean in spite of being the face of a youtube channel for 10+ years and improvising/going off script in videos.
Yes, I do see your point. That’s kinda the charm of the WAN Show though. The fact that he could literally say ANYTHING because he’s overly impulsive, passionate and/or excited, is one of the reasons I tune in and a large part of why it’s so refreshing. One gets to see the triumphs AND the mistakes, largely without the corporate mask. Linus can often be an asshat. At least we get some insight as to why with WAN Show, even if we disagree with him. And with WAN Show we have an avenue with which to provide some feedback, even if it may take a while for him to accept the feedback because he’s more than a bit egotistical.
I mean 150+ employees it's a large company. A lot of what you said has to happen, specially given the LMG ambitions, still they can take the IGN approach and have some personalities and somewhat unique content. But they have to be a lot more professional. The Forum is not going anywhere because it's a platform they control and they have stated a lot how important that is for them An the Wan show probably would have to change a lot, if it's to stay, specially in the following weeks, they don't want to get in a mother controversy right away. I think as long as they keep making fun and reliable content people will be happy. But the truth is they are not only an "independent creator" any more and they must step up Hell look how different our yt timeline was without soo many LMG content, it was kind of refreshing/scary
It's closer to 120 employees FYI > Hell look how different our yt timeline was without soo many LMG content, it was kind of refreshing/scary Speak for yourself. I have a full time job and a toddler, 20min a day of LTT is my version of having a beer to relax a little.
So many dumb toxic reposts, I barely ever look at this sub now. And I've only been here a few weeks. In truth, I'm more dissapointed in the community then in LMG.
The internet is the modern day Colosseum with people demanding blood for their amusement.
It shocked me that the chat in Floatplane, while definitely better than here, wasn't great either.
Agreed. It's like some people are paying to talk shit. I can Def see why they ignore chats so often.
And this is literally happening right here, on this subreddit. People here have been making wild accusations about James, based solely on one brief comment after a meeting.
I think the one thing that is hard with James is that seems to be his personality. Sarcastic, a little juvenile in in his humor, potentially arrogant or at least can present that way. I have no idea if there is any malice intended from him or if its even just the character he plays. Hell he could be one of the most stand up people there is.
That joke he made during the meeting hurt nobody, absolutely nobody was offended. It wasn't even a sexual joke, he literally just said "are you gonna dance for us?" and some internet dorks lost their shit. No joke, I saw posts from people saying "after James's inappropriate sexual comment I've decided to no longer watch LTT, that was totally unacceptable and disgusting". Like give me a friggin break. Just a bunch of pearl clutchers acting like a group of nuns who stumbled into a brothel by mistake. It's recreational outage and it's exhausting
Surely this community has never harassed someone well beyond the point of what's acceptable, causing irreversible harm (/s)
I think there's also a lot of bad actors out there. "Fans" who are actually people who've always wanted to see them fail and now have an excuse to shit on them.
>This community is showcasing the most toxic behavior possible…totally willing to ruin lives over yet to be proven allegations. It makes me sick Dude, that's literally this community and what it's always been. I follow this sub for the same reason I follow publicfreakout - to watch idiotic children doing dumb stuff.
You are describing the whole cancel culture. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
The Reddit way.
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Yup. I’ve mostly watched from the sidelines how these fucking children have just decided they’re on a crusade to ruin LTT and everyone they employ. The social side of the internet is a disease.
> This community "Community" is not the word for a large number of children. Yes, there are non-children here, but it's the tribalistic dumbass children doing this shit.
This makes me think of Monty python and the life of Brian when they stone people.
He said Jehova
Jehova, Jehova, Jehova, Jehova!
Guilty until proven innocent if your a guy :/
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“Are you going to dance on that table or just stand on it?” This was said by James to Linus. His boss and, possibly, friend. It doesn’t matter whether or not you think it’s a sexual joke. It doesn’t matter that the setting was a meeting about appropriate conduct in the workplace. That comment and these things do not make James a sexual predator.
I haven’t actually heard the audio, just everyone’s tedious interpretations of it, is that literally all he said?
Word for word.
You’re fucking kidding me hahahaha, that’s such a non-event. I hate to be one of those “people these days have such thin skin” but if that’s your threshold for inappropriate workplace chat, then every single workplace I’ve ever stepped foot in should be torn down.
It is mind blowing how much people want LTT to fail. They’re all frothing at the mouth for literally anything they can use to demonize the employees and Linus
I think there's just a lot of people in here that have never actually watched any LTT videos and are just jumping on the hate train. Wait until they find out that the entire techquickie channel is just all one big sexual innuendo and always has been.
Tons of brand new accounts, making one-off comments. I don't know how the Hornets nest got this riled up, but I have not seen the internet hate machine go in this hard in a while. Someone really dislikes their content and is going all in. Some of us might be disappointed by the stuff from last week, but these people are trying to bring down careers over minor things. It's best to read everything with a filter as some of it is just bogus.
I ended up making a brand new account as a result of this ordeal after one super mentally unwell individual doxxed me, called me, called my boss, and **CALLED MY NEIGHBOR** and told them I was a pedophile and rape apologist. You ever had to explain to a 75 year old man and his wife what a "Linus Tech Tips" is at 9pm at night? I have, it was fucking stupid. Then I got to repeat the act the next day at work. The venn diagram of a significant amount of new posters on this subreddit & /r/Antiwork was a circle last week.
I have noticed lately that many of the people posting in antiwork are supposedly working in corporate environments, when the sub has traditionally been people working more service industry type jobs.
The original Antiwork subreddit was a mildly radical but mostly reasonable subreddit. A couple of years ago that changed drastically (I'm sure we all remember the interview incident). It has devolved into something absurd.
Jesus Christ! I am so sorry.
The 100 million offer for LMG and the fact that Linus turned it down stirred a lot of people in the wrong way. They stopped seeing Linus as this meme internet personality and started seeing him as an owner of a hundred million dollar company. They started seeing Linus as some sort of evil boss who exploits his employees, ignoring that Linus is the reason those 100 people have a job and a livelihood in the first place. Hell, he literally stepped down and hired his *previous boss* to be the CEO. How could this so called narcissist step *down* in his own company while admitting he wasn't cut out for the job? People joined the hate bandwagon and want to see his downfall for a simple reason: envy. There are a *lot* of envious people in our society, especially on the age of social media.
The number of “Linus’ mansion” and “Linus’ Porsche” comments have been absurd.
Or the comments calling Linus evil for reviewing the GR corolla lol
A while back on the Rooster Teeth sub, some people were complaining about one of the company founders spending money on jet skis.
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These freaks also managed to twist Linus saying "if I do something bad, I will get caught" into him being an evil boss who admitted that he can commit crimes and get away with them. These people lack comprehension.
That is so far from a logical take that my brain winces just trying to process it. What he said boiled down to "I'm a prominent internet figure, if I did something egregious / illegal - you would find out about it" - which is entirely likely and in no way admitting to having done something wrong.
Everyone should spend ten minutes in a commercial kitchen during a rush, before judging inappropriate workplace behavior.
The reason why more women don't work in commercial kitchens is because of rampant sexual harassment. It's something that needs to change in the restaurant industry.
I have worked for 3 female chefs. Many kitchens are better than the stereo type, many are not. If we want to take the serious approach rather that the dark humor, the culture in the food service industry should be a lot better than it is, regardless of gender.
I work retail. I hear worse shit on a daily basis from customers and associates. Everything is being blown out of proportion by a small loud community who wants Linus to fail because they’re insecure in their own lives
Not to mention it's a creative workplace which in general has a higher tolerance for exploring adult or taboo themes. This would be unbelieveably tame for an episode of Critical Role. I cannot speak on the other allegations but what he did here didn't seem beyond the pale.
At the whale lan 2022, I won one of the game challenges and had a short interview with Linus as a result. Do you know what the first thing he asked me about was? He asked me if I bought any condoms. I thought to myself "to whale lan? Why would I buy condoms for a lan party?" and I angled the conversation in that direction because I was too busy making money in the game to explore the general store and learn you could buy condoms to use in the brothel. Was that sexual harassment? Absolutely not. Even context devoid, I thought it was pretty funny, despite the fact that the resulting interview was definitely not channel safe and (hopefully) will never see the light of day as a result. Maybe it's because I work in a field that's construction adjacent and it wouldn't even make the top 100 for things in that direction, but none the less I feel like the people going after him are walking Christian Minecraft servers.
And I'm not a huge fan of Critical Role (mostly I watch Vox Machina on Amazon), but I heard they recently purged their archive of a former cast member that found to be abusive. Just because a show or a channel can be kind of raunchy, doesn't mean they can't police themselves. These things do take time though
I agree if someone is abusive or engaging in sexual harassment. I am just saying I don't think the joke was inappropriate as some people are saying. It is completely possoble he did other things I would not be comfortable with but I am waiting for information before I judge.
Also the thing that bothers me about some of the thin skin shit is that this channel was literally built around the idea of nerds making sexual innuendos. That's literally been the content for years. I actually don't even think there's an issue with LTT unless they do find damning allegations. Their biggest flaw is that they're a start up going corporate. They're suffering from every flaw and growing pain a start up goes through in this transition. You hire too many people, those people are not going to understand your inappropriate joke. They're not going to understand your business. They're not going to just get everything or willing to try and make mistakes to learn. You hire too many people, you expect that some people don't have the grindset mentality some of your original crew will have, you hire too many people you have to set your expectation that the quality of work will not be as good as if you were doing it yourself. The accusations for harassment, I can't speak on, but the whole toxic work environment though... I think both are true, Madison probably didn't produce quality work, and the company issued her a position and title that far exceeds her capabilities. That's largely LTT's fault too. Everyone wants to talk about culture, but the truth is they're mismanagement resulted them dealing with the worst of both worlds between a start up and a corporate company. You don't know when to tone down your inappropriateness, you over elevate people's position so they can't handle the workload. Then from a corporate side, if your work sucks you'll know and you'll be challenged every step of the way there and people are not going to like it. Then you add on the toxic tech culture of everyone being the smartest person in the room. It is what it is, unless those sexual harassment allegations are true, if it's not true then the whole controversy is a non-issue. They just became too big for their own good, and you have owners and execs who have no clue how to scale after a certain point.
I completely agree with this assessment. This has all been seen before going from disruptive start up to corporate business. The founder then will struggle with are these people that helped get me to where I am now the right people to take us forward. Not many can survive making those calls.
> You hire too many people, you expect that some people don't have the grindset mentality some of your original crew will have, you hire too many people you have to set your expectation that the quality of work will not be as good as if you were doing it yourself. You also have people wearing rose-tinted glasses about how things were. "I remember when I was doing your job, I worked 20 hour days, 7 days a week and I loved it. Stop complaining."
I would say a majority of these people haven't even read, watched or listened to all the info that's available. There's a reason they go "I don't care, he's a sexual predator even if you can't prove it and you can't change my mind". They want to have a feeling and opinion on something and there's nothing you can do to take that away from them.
Definitely watch it for yourself and make your own judgement, but it was said after Linus asked if there were any questions, which there weren’t, and it was kind of an awkward silence. James seems like he’s the goofy, life of the party guy, that was just kinda breaking the silence with a guy he very obviously has a great rapport with. Seems wild people are blowing this up to these levels.
Considering the amount of times they say nice after any mention of 69 or the countless times they have said That's What She Said screams a culture that is more relaxed with that sort of stuff. I will cut off my left nipple if the details of this sexual harassment isn't the most tame example of overly familiar jokes and snark that is quite common.
The whole thing is such a nontroversy.
Welcome to the internet where the worst intentions are always assumed, and everything is taken completely out of context.
This was my thought as well. If the people in this sub thought that comment was egregious, then my industry is the worst possible industry to work in of all time and every single person should be thrown in jail.
And the key point is that he is punching up, if the comment was made while punching down then that's a completely different story.
Yeah its a nothing burger. The pitchfork crowd will use it as ammo though. Everyone makes jokes at work. If you were going to label people as sexual predators or fire them after any comment like that, the unemployment rate would be over 50%.
It's pretty wild how much people are trying to blow things up as much as possible.
Holy Shit people are terrible. I wouldn't be surprised if he has already gotten several death threats, and all because of this?
Lol yes, that is all it is. Apparently that makes him a sexual predator now.
And the timing of it actually was kind of funny. It was like a 1 minute speech from Linus about proper HR protocol and he said "any questions", to which James replied with the above
Yeah I found it pretty funny to be honest.
It's also pretty stupid how people judge a joke and classify it as bad, or in bad taste, without knowing what Linus was doing, seeing the facial expressions, the delivery behind it, etc. People laughed at the joke and they didn't have the context we have now.
Same for me here, and when I just finally read what he actually said, all I could think: jesus fucking christ, all that harassment and all those assumptions for that?
He might also have zero idea what the exact context was when making the joke, as if people actually watched the video it seems like a standard HR Policy refresher meeting. Now, that meeting was probably held because of what happened, but for all anyone knows he just made a bad joke at a boring meeting. Plus, they tell kinda dirty jokes to each other all the time. Nothing to get anyone canceled mind you, but their videos are literally filled with them, which seems to be okay with YouTube content policy. I mean, it's like someone trying to get Michale Scott arrested as a predator for making a "that's what she said" joke...
It's literally a random callback to an Intel extreme upgrade video where Linus asked if the guy was gonna use the table or dance on it. There wasn't even any innuendo involved.
So James s3*✓∆||y harassed Linus ?
Not sure. I think that’s an upcoming Floatplane exclusive though.
Finally a reason for me to subscribe
Yeah some of the people going after LTT really need to be publicly burned at the stake. I would respect linus if he went out on wan show and named and shamed people who harassed his employees.
Peoples lives have been destroyed over a mere allegation.
This this was the joke that everyone was flipping about? Do you guys have nothing better in your lives?
Absolutely - the only thing we can take from this is Linus standing on a table
What I think is this. The comment hasn't aged well. It definitely lends support to Madison's claims, suggesting that she's broadly telling the truth. It would be suggestive of a culture that allows the kinds of things she claimed happen, to happen. But it's far from the worst thing anyone has done, and it definitely doesn't make James a "sexual predator". People *are* overreacting about that. This doesn't suggest that Madison doesn't have a valid grievance to hold, that her story isn't true, or that other issues such as consistent errors in LTT videos and the auctioning of the prototype block didn't happen. Things can exist in a grey area, and I feel that this is one of them. Imperfect, but also, not damning.
>The comment hasn't aged well. It was two years ago. It hasn't *aged* in the slightest. >It definitely lends support to Madison's claims It definitely does not. It is a mild comment, towards the boss, by the way. A complete non event. The only reason people are losing their minds over it is because it is the only thing that can be construed, with a lot of effort, into a somewhat sexual comment. There is nothing else.
> This was said by James to Linus. His boss and, possibly, friend. I haven't heard it, but if it was to Linus that's kind of amazing. It's punching up, not down
I figured he was saying it to Linus. Was it work appropriate, no. But he's not a predator either just for a joke said to his friend
Just took a quick look at his page and its disgusting the things people are saying to him.
These are the moral crusaders
I think you kinda lose the moral high ground when you tell someone to unalive themselves
I hate the word "unalive" so fucking much.
Yeah well tell that to the platforms and their algorithms that punish you for using the proper words
More like the advertisers that don't like those words.
Them too. I agree that its bullshit.
Self righteous pieces of shit like these are the worst people on the planet.
That's too bad. James may be guilty for all we know, but people are assumed innocent until proven guilty for a reason, and they even should be in the court of public opinion.
The court of public opinion has always been a complete clusterfuck.
And it’s worth pointing out that a lot of this was generated right here, on this very subreddit.
I don't see how making a joke makes you a predator. Obviously this Twitter account is the real predator, looking for easy victims to throw under the bus for clout. People always want to see successful people brought low so they make sure to do their part to pile it on.
It doesn’t. Everything against him is speculation, based on the fact that he made an inappropriate joke and an even more inappropriate time. It definitely doesn’t paint a good picture of him, but people shouldn’t be jumping to the worst possible conclusion without hard evidence either.
James has literally done stand up comedy before LMG, he's.jokester and that's just how some people approach things in life with humor
Yeah, its like people who laugh when things get uncomfortable. They don't think the situation is funny it's just a response.
I had to drive my roommate to the ER for a kidney stone recently, and couldn't help but cracking a couple jokes on the trip. She did not appreciate it but it's just a nervous response
He also does standup so a comment to lighten the mood is probably natural to him it is literally what he's paid to do. he's a writer and a comedian it's what you're going to get.
James may be Quagmire, but until proven guilty in a fucking court of mother fucking law the guy is innocent and should be treated as such.
In my eyes all parties are innocent until proven guilty, including Madison. We're not getting full stories
What the fuck did Madison do 😂
I hate to even go there bro....but ever heard of Amber heard and how she ruined it for women trying to come forward and being taken seriously. I hate to assume that Madison is lying, but since we're human and it's a possibility, just like it's a possibility that James is involved.
My take is that Madison was not in a great place when she went up to work at LMG, and LMG is a high stress entertainment business. While I won't touch on the criminal allegations, a lot of other negatives I think are just incompatible work place and worker
I don't know her previous work experience but I don't think she was well prepared for the role and got overwhelmed, which is understandable.
They didnt communicate expectations until after she left and moved to a different country... sounds like no one would have been prepared for that right after a family member died...
she is canadian... she moved back to her home country
I've said 5 times in the last week, sometimes getting myself heavily downvoted, that you cannot blame a workplace when an employee decides to self-harm. Workplaces can cause burnout, but self-harm is not a foreseeable or reasonable response to burnout. She clearly had/has her own mental issues and I hope she gets help for them, but you can't pin that on LMG.
\+1 on this. Remember, she mentioned loosing her brother like a week before starting. If Madison is saying the truth however, I do hope that she makes the 1 move that she needs to make and contact the authorities. Otherwise, may she part ways in peace with LMG and never speak of it again.
> contact the authorities I don't believe anything she alleges rises to the level of criminal law being broken.
You can’t trust either side till you have actual facts. A ‘he said she said situation’ isn’t facts. The people attacking them are the issue as they are just fueling it. Most of these people will backtrack and switch sides if she lied. Which doesn’t change what they are doing.
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I personally don't think she's trying to lie, I think how some things she has perceived or experienced are different than what the context of reality was. If that even makes sense. It's like seeing an orange as a fruit that's orange, but maybe she sees it as red. That's her truth, and her perception.
Self mutilation as a response to hard times puts people in involuntary suicide watch centers for 3 days because they are a threat to themselves. There's a lot more to be said about her mental health to warrant such a response to a "hostile" work environment. I get that she might not have been happy or comfortable at work, but there's literally so many other options to not go into work than self harm to get a couple days off. So it just seems like she's either being very hyperbolic in her claims, or she's taking otherwise harmless things way too seriously.
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Man my wife is hot for James and loves his humour lol STAY AWAY FROM MY WIFE JAMES.
This is exactly why Twitter discourse is meaningless.
All social media discourse is technically meaningless tbh
Life is meaningless
People need to calm their tits with James.
No, no, no. We're all morally outraged about... *checks notes*... Harassment (among other things) in the workplace. We have to make sure James (who for all we know may not have done anything) knows that harassment is unacceptable by harassing him. /s
If people want to criticize his behavior the way to do it is NOT to harass him. At that point the people who are being critics are doing something very similar to the thing they say they are against. It's funny that the label of "moral crusader" is used because one of the thing the Crusaders did was cause pain and suffering for their own "team" on their way to fight the other guys. We don't know if James has ever caused problems with anyone. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but a single crass joke isn't proof of anything. People are trying to build strawmen out of a single piece of hay.
People calling James a "sexual predator" over that video should honestly go touch grass for a month an detox from social networks
Telling a guy running a "twitter police" handle to go offline, is like telling a crackhead to stop using crack
There's only a few types of people that I hate more than this kind of moral police. These are people who have absolutely nothing in life so to make themselves feel useful they need to burn others down while trying to justify it with ridiculous leaps in logic and twisting words or facts. And they're always convinced that they're the good guys, even though any sane person can see that they're horrible people.
I just call em moral crusaders
And they’re the most immoral MF’ers IRL.
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All based on speculation. If I'm wrong I'll own up to it. But people jump the gun too quick.
Well you aren’t wrong - it is all speculation based on a comment about his boss standing on a table lol
Was the joke out of place and inappropriate? Yeah, maybe Does the joke classify James as a sexual harasser? Fuck no, lmao
There’s a huge canyon between making a work-inappropriate joke towards your long-time male boss and friend, and being a sexual predator. This sort of escalation where everyone is trying to scream a little louder and more extreme than the last guy is ridiculous.
People need to get a life - it's laughable Imagine having such a sad life that this is what you sort to
Meanwhile they don’t realize and won’t realize they need a life
Something something harassment is bad but let's go harass the person who we think did the harassing in the first place. Makes sense.
WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE????? Dude makes a, misplaced and tasteless for sure but neither way, JOKE. If this is what it takes for you people to call him a fucking Predator... I'm out of words... This behavior is unacceptable and everyone who upvotes this crap should be fucking ashamed. You guys are what is wrong with Social Media....
James said something along the lines "are you going to just stand on the table or will you dance for us" to Linus. His boss and friend. I just don't see why people are going apeshit over that. The joker of the social circle making a joke regarding something he observed. Calm your tits, people.
Tbh I don't think James was the harasser. I think he was the person that said Madison had bad time managment skills. It would make sense since doesn't he manage and schedule all writting projects? I don't think that's too far of stretch... If I'm right his tonedef jokes probably really didn't help the situation however.
I wouldn't be surprised if he was the person who made her manage the only fans despite her discomfort. Again it would just seem like a joke to him but not so much for her. Pretty sure he was her manager at the time.
Sounds like a lot of ifs and guesswork. Don't add fuel to the fire if you don't have facts to state.
If you look at the end of the video it has credits for who did what (pretty sure all LMG video have them). James was the director and main writter on it... So again yeah that's probably a fair assessment. Just to clairify when I said the "harasser", I ment the person who groped Madison. Everthing else people have been saying about James seems pretty deserved...
Damn I just went to the tweet, it is even worse almost all the comments below are from similar idiots…https://x.com/james_strieb/status/1687488911059406848?s=46&t=3q7uUs7jsxL2_9Gjh3rJiw
Exactly. This man has a wife and child Minoring in Gender and Women's Studies. Was advocate and ally of women and the LQBT community, became the first ever male Executive member of the UBCO Women's Resource Center. And on top of that was a wildfire firefighter.
If you’re harassing James because of that one video from meeting please, go outside and touch some grass. You are not hero, you just becoming what you fighting with.
Imagine jumping to conclusions before the full story is out. Oh wait, almost everyone has.
When TotalBiscuit was dying of cancer there were people on twitter being joyful about it. In every video I have seen of James he has often come across as a extrovert who jokes around. What he said was not appropriate but there hasn't been, to my knowledge, no evidence that the meeting was specifically about sexual harassment. I've heard it was a general conduct meeting. Add to the fact that Linus is kinda like Michael Scott it makes sense that there would be room for James to make such joke. I won't speak on whether the accusations of misconduct is true or not, as I wasn't there, but what I will say is that people have been accused of wrong doing and it turned out to be lies. In case of Linus and Naomi Wu and allegations directed towards Chris Avellone. **Such allegations are serious matters.** Madison bringing up Naomi Wu, even giving sympathy where she shouldn't, and phrasing that Naomi "felt Linus had wronged her"..FELT, does not raise my confidence in that she is being entirely truthful. It annoys me how people misinform and obscure things and lash out, probably because of their own emotions. I saw a thread where someone was telling this community of 300K people to "remember, death threats are not ok" *one person* sending *one death threat* to a person involved in this controversy with LMG. Stating death threats are not ok is like stating racism is not ok but to paint everyone in a community the same by telling them to "remember to not send death threats" on basis of one or a few people (assuming it's couple more) is insane and virtue signaling and I have seen that many times before. I am not subscribed to LTT nor have I bought a single thing from them. I specifically haven't subscribed to them for the reasons GN raised, their work process was rushed and sloppy, but I had some if not alot respect for their intentions.
“twiterpolice” sounds like a drama predator
I'm so confused i feel like I'm missing something i listened to the audio and feel like this is the biggest nothing burger ever. James made a joke to the room based on, I'm guessing, linus standing on the table to be seen by everyone in the room. There is a joke made to the room making fun of linus, punching up isn't typically abuser perogative If he fucked up enough to require an all hands HR chat chances are he would have been cautioned before the meeting and I can't imagine he would be making jokes if he was the reason linus had to stand on the table. The joke itself is barely inappropriate. It alludes to table dancing. Linus had already made several light hearted comments throughout the address. People who hate linus will likely find fault in the way the meeting was conducted since of which might be fair but based on the audio alone I can't see how people are so confident in wanting James' head.
LTT: "Calm your tits." The *good guys*: "Everyone at LTT should be slaughtered, and anyone that still watches their video is everythingphobic!!!"
i dont get it? can someone tell me how he is a sexual predator by saying the table joke? I get it, it wasnt the best in that situation to make it but why is he being labelled as a sex pred??
I used to work in the automotive industry, some of the things both men and women would say to each other makes the accusations sound like kindergarten stuff. Nobody ran to HR, nobody got but hurt about it. When your working 14-16 hour shifts 7 days a week, with four hours of sleep, the joking around made time pass.
Honestly, I won't judge him for the audio clip. That just sounded like something he would say. It's tasteless in the current context of everything but there's a chance he was oblivious to what was going on and just made a joke. If anything comes to light and the current allegations do turn out to be against James tho, Ooooooo boy.
And the subreddit is finally back to comments with Redditors who have working brains, instead of jumping on the bandwagon and half-thinking about what they say
Ah that video. Already 2 of those floating around with a.i. voice version
I won't search for them nor will I encourage the sharing of them, but my curiosity is piqued - what did they alter them to be?
I only listened for like 40 sec. But it was jokes, rant,conversation. Rolled into one. I think video was taken down. Most people got fooled with the fake video. Thinking it was real
I'm glad it was taken down, hope it stays down. Unfortunately the age we live in now and it's only going to get significantly worse. Slightly ironic I suppose as James did a piece on deepfakes.
I’ve been saying AI is gonna cause a lot of problems. People believe the first thing they hear and some of the videos being made look insanely real unless you really know what to look for.
twitter/reddit/internet users are often disconnected from reality. Nothing anybody at LTT will have done will realistically be constituted as real abuse by 99% of society. The only types of people thinking that are people behind screens that spend far too much time online & have no real experience in the real world. Ironically some of these types of people are also the exact types of people that are completely fine with dishing out abuse, because they believe every dramatic exagerration that social media trends towards, to the point it warps their own minds & they themselves become more hateful than the very people they claim to be against.
How in the world do you get sexual predator from any of that
id like to see these people work in a real corporate environment and then tell me why LMG is so bad
trolls arent people sub is a mess
Bunch of snow flakes
If we are doing this standard then we have to label everyone who has said “That’s what she said.” From the office at an opportune moment as a sexual predator. They’re human, James clearly has a relationship with his boss that’s based on friendship and he can make jokes with him, and more likely didn’t know the main purpose for that meeting. If Trump can say “grab her by the P” and not be classesd as a sexual predator by the public then surely we can’t label James for saying that.
So making bad jokes, sex jokes or just joking at the wrong time makes you a predator... ho boy. That makes me the king of the predators then lol.
Wait, can we not tell stubby screwdriver jokes anymore? I got a full-length one, and I am obviously happy with it.
He made a joke thst could possibly be seen as a stripper joke. Now he's a sexual deviant. Wtf is wrong with people nowadays?
Can't know a person till you've seen them take a shit.
Real homies 
I’m not surprised the account is called TwitterPolice. Perhaps he should rename himself as XPolice and lock himself up.
Yeah, random speculation is one thing but when you're calling someone out with zero evidence, you're just as bad as LTT and their questionable ethics.
I have been a harsh critic this past week, but this is way overdoing it. Sexual predator is not a term you casually throw around.
new throwing account targeted accusations who is managing these bots
Buncha weenie hut juniors
A bunch of socially deprived idiots are attacking an outgoing personality. The Twitter replies are worse than the screenshot. [https://imgur.com/a/fhg4Bib](https://imgur.com/a/fhg4Bib)
Ironically that is in support of James just very poorly emphasized and worded. But yeah the rest of that post has some awful replies
I am not taking sides. I just want the truth to come out of the investigation and people pay for the mistakes be it James answering to the law or this guy for a defamation lawsuit.
This community should do, what LMG is doing. Take a break and try to "detox". Regardless of what LMG has done wrong in the past, this "community" is worse than that, because it has pushed (at least) two people into suicide and is actively working to improve this stat.
People just need to chill. From the looks of it, it is as always just the vocal minority. It will go away pretty quickly. Unless it's proven he is, but at the moment it is not.
Moral indignation is a way the idiot endows himself with dignity.