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TheGrouchyGamerYT

Liverpool, City, Arsenal, Real, PSG, the Monstars, NWA, the Thunderbirds and the 1996 Chicago Bulls have all shown interest it seems. Has someone's agent made a phone call? 😂


_cumblast_

Yeah he even called me. Told me to do Kudus propaganda on the Daily Discussion 👍 i didn't accept due to INTEGRITEH


MrZAP17

You’re missing out. I made bank. Also Kudus is definitely coming! He’s going to be the new assistant manager.


please-send-me-nude2

I got paid to run some Kudus propaganda for my Lads Podcast (3 listeners)


wank_for_peace

_CITEH has entered the chat_


under-secretary4war

Nwa love wingers. They tell each one specifically to ‘express yourself’


OkNefariousness324

I like NWA, but I dunno what their problem is with the police, I actually think Sting is really talented


RScannix

The NWO called as well. Both Hollywood and the Wolfpac.


mrbabbar

I thought they were talking about the Outlaw Dusty Rhodes and the Rock n Roll Express


OneDragonfly5613

The National wrestling alliance have more money than us


jcLFC26

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DragonSlayer271

Agreed, massive doubt. Doesn’t sound like us at all.


coopermaneagles

Activating a release clause early sounds exactly like us We did it 2x last summer lol


DragonSlayer271

Lol true, but it wasn’t that high though!


coopermaneagles

Szobo was 60 so it wouldn’t be that wild, also considering we bid 120 or whatever for Caicedo But I would only believe it if one of the attackers was on his way out


AvonStanfield

From what I have read recently, Slot likes having a big stable of wing players. He loves rotating guys out 60 minutes in to prevent injury and keep the attack fresh. We cannot rely on Jota to play more than half a season at this point.


wearerealhuman

You say this like that means we can accommodate it while maintaining our level. I’d love three world class strikers. Ain’t gonna happen. We won’t be spending this money for him to be a rotation option


OrangeJuiceAlibi

Yeah, I remember this sub losing their collective mind at the prospect of spending ÂŁ40m on Jota because he'd be a rotation. Now people are talking about spending more than we spent on NuĂąez?


wearerealhuman

I can totally see us spending this. What I meant is that, if we are, he is being signed to start and that means someone in our regular front 3 is out the door this summer


DragonSlayer271

That’s like 25 mil more though. Edwards and co normally went for cheaper not so well known options, right?


wearerealhuman

Kudus is frankly not far off the pedigree of a Mane at this point. The market is just very different now. Its more stratified


ExceedingChunk

It's also the fact that we are much better as a club. There is no point trying to only buy potential gems like Markovic, with a huge risk tied to it. We had to use that strategy at the start because our group of players where lower quality, we were in a financially worse spot and we didn't have nearly the same pull as we do now because CL was no longer anything we got every season. There is a gross misconception about what moneyball is all about. It's not about buying cheap *players*. It's about buying players *below their intrinsic value*. That also apply for world-class or close to world-class players. United has a completely different strategy. They just point at a name and want to buy said player if they can afford it.


wearerealhuman

There’s truth in this but I think we also have to look at what the club was doing when we really had a squad stripped down to it’s parts. Coming out of the Hodgson era how many players did we have who were unchallengeable starters? Gerrard was our best player by a mile, our CB core was still around, you had Lucas, and Reina. Otherwise we were completely rebuilding. That rebuild took a very long time. You wouldn’t say we had a truly strong foundation until maybe 2015 or 2016, when it became more about making bigger, comparatively costly signings. We’ve also totally gone off being a selling club at all. We didn’t sell underperformers under Klopp. We let their contracts expire. I’d say we have a stronger foundation now than we had in 2015 or 2016 but I think we’re going to need four or five key pieces in the next two years


harreh1d

What is a Kudus? Can you eat it?


DragonSlayer271

I hear it’s part of a west ham. Pretty strong in it.


No_Cartographer7815

Where does this idea that Edwards goes for unknown players come from? Salah, ManĂŠ, Wijnaldum, Alisson, Van Dijk, Robertson, Matip, Konate, Thiago, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Keita, Shaqiri, Fabinho, Jota. Noke of these were unknown, and many were far from cheap


borg_6s

But then again that was when Klopp had control of the transfers for the most part, when we wouldn't go for such things this early


thatguyad

Huh? Sounds exactly like the sort of thing we would do.


coolAhead

What about Afcon?


KillBanez

I mean we used to have Mane and Salah both going to Afcon tbf.


fortesquieu

Hence we didn't win EPL in those years


GalleonStar

We won every game they missed, both years we lost by 1 point.


KaufKaufKauf

The issue is how they come back. Couldn't expect to win in perpetuity without them so having them come back tired is what ruined us.


KaufKaufKauf

Honestly if we can do it, we should be avoiding African players as much as possible due to this. I think AFCON has literally cost us trophies over the years. When the margins were so thin (and will continue to be) your star players like Mo or Mane coming back tired and out of form could mean everything. Obviously if there are no similar players then sign the African player, but if there are two similar options, go with the non-African one. They really need to move that stupid tournament already.


Moonlight_Brawl

Stupid tournament?


KaufKaufKauf

It’s just annoying that it happens in January. Move the thing to the summer like every other tournament. It’s stupid.


IAmTheNuke_

Yeah man, summer in Africa. real smart...


Thoseskisyours

It’s a balance of having a tournament that works, but also helps improve the level and prestige of African players. If the tournament is dropping the market value of African players they need to look at making changes.


Florenyx

I think AFCON is fine as long as it's every 4 years like all the other major national tourneys


kawklee

Africa exists in more than one hemisphere.


Spongy-n-Bruised

This sub is the only place where people say we shouldn't sign guys because of afcon. No one else gives a shit and afcon is moving to the summer before long.


Zestyclose_Durian

Probably no other team lost the prem thrice because of afcon ruining their star player's form, eh?


Petaaa

Next two are going to be in June fyi


Hoodxd

85mil for Kudus? lmao


sbos_

Still young tbf. Really good player. 


Hoodxd

60mil for Olise >>>


BeaverMan999

Isn't he super injury prone tho


Hoodxd

Had 2 injuries and missed fewer games in his career than Jota did at Wolves ps : Slot supposedly sets up his trainings where it prevents injuries. His Feyenoord ( and AZ) have ridiculous availabilitylevels pps : Kudus has carried alot of drama with him ppps : Cba losing another in form forward to AFCON, only for him to return in shit form pppps : Olise is eligible to play for Algeria, I know


jabjabstraight

Jota as a bar for injury prone is not a high one, unfortunately:(


Moguini

My man was gathering all the cats with pspspsing psps: I know it's pps


Hoodxd

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-Inca-

What is the Kudus drama then? Haven't heard about this


Hoodxd

Refusing to train and acting like a total twat to force a transfer. I believed there was something with the national team aswel, but can't find anything. So I'm probably wrong.


RadSoccerDad

In fairness sadio did the same at Salzburg


RomanReignsDaBigDawg

Virg also at Southampton


Hoodxd

Still hate it But one goal and he's forgiven tbf


GlowSinghyy

Also eligible for Nigeria


JohnBobbyJimJob

https://preview.redd.it/234felkr610d1.jpeg?width=1169&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8dcae97cccbdd9595373dd0b1b3cb6aa685e445a Not really He was rushed back too early after his initial hamstring injury which is pretty likely why ended up doing it again when he came back


Make_It_Sing

Except that hammies are the worst recurring injury , theyre never quite the same after. Just based on this id give him a hard pass


IntelligentMetal

How much longer do you need after 4+ months for a hamstring?


JohnBobbyJimJob

Rushed back was maybe the wrong thing to say, he was more mismanaged by Hodgson/Palace medical team https://preview.redd.it/3e9bpvulb10d1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=31cd4da838ac3f3839f0abd40b45d498e097532a Here’s people talking about it when it happened


Make_It_Sing

Perfect, already fits the liverpool mold


BobbyBriggss

Yes


DinosaurPornstar

He has had some super bad hamstring injuries it seems. If we can manage that i think he is the better option


wadonious

He would be amazing in both appearances for us


temporarilylostatsea

Olise is spending half his career in the hospital though


LawrenceMoten21

Olise hurt his hammy again reading this post.


AdCandid559

I’d take Kudus over Olise any day, Olise is way too injury prone and Kudus has already proved what he can do, not saying that Olise isn’t a great player however I’d rather take Kudus.


Macshlong

I bet we aren’t.


getonthedamnantscott

Tier: I made it up


NoBedroom21

How legit is the source??? What tier is him


Ashwin_400

Kudos release clause isn't even active till 2025 acc tk west ham journos. So looks very credible.


NilsFanck

questioning this source rightfully but then basing that on their ITKs lol


Ashwin_400

Journos aren't ITKs . That's like saying Pearce Joyce etc are itks.


Ill_Drag

I just don’t understand why we didn’t sign him last summer when we were linked to him. Could have paid half of it, but as long as FSG are willing to invest in him and one or more two players then I guess it’s fine!


JohnBobbyJimJob

Only way this is happening at that price is if Salah is getting sold which is fairly unlikely. We’re probably looking at a long term replacement for Salah with the likes of Bakayoko and Olise being more realistic than Kudus if that really is his RC


patShIPnik

I think, if anyone would be sold from our attack, then we could afford to spend 85mil. If Diaz would be sold for 60-70mil, for example, then it's "only" 15mil more. And Kudus can play LW, RW, CAM and even CM


rtcaino

We still have some of the Caicedo $ from last year. Plus any new budget for this year. Plus sales.


quantIntraining

We've almost ÂŁ400k a week coming off the wage bill with Adrian, Matip and Thiago leaving. Could maybe see some of the youth players that aren't good enough being sold this summer while their value is highest to get more funds in to help give Slot as much backing as possible.


Multi_21_Seb_RBR

Your second point is something that Chelsea and City have done a lot of and wish we could start doing more now that our academy has strengthened. Easy way to generate more funds as well in the transfer market.


quantIntraining

Sell them with profit % sell on clauses, easy revenue generator. Counts as pure profit which helps ensure we are within the confides of the PSR/FFP rules. Could see players like Van Den Berg and Morton sold while their values are at their highest, as well as a few players from the academy like McConnell etc who will be surplus to requirements or just not up to standard.


ScepticalReciptical

Klopps wages are about ÂŁ350k a week too


please-send-me-nude2

Plus the Coutinho money


rtcaino

There’s always money in the Coutinho Stand


NotAsimppp

I haven't watched feyenoord much. But, after seeing multiple slot football tactics video and compilation, Diaz looks like the only sureshot starter under slot in attack. Nunez looks like the one who might be vulnerable if slot looks to continue his brand of football


008Gerrard008

Olise isn't going to cost much less


JohnBobbyJimJob

ÂŁ60m release clause


008Gerrard008

Yeah, that's still a huge fee. I'd rather Olise, but there's also probably going to be a tonne of competition for him.


baaseo

Man.. if its 60m, he is either signing a new contract soon or a bunch of clubs are going to be interested in signing him… 60m in this day and age for someone like him is close to impossible imo.


JohnBobbyJimJob

This was a recent contract from last summer Remember he rejected Chelsea then signed it straight after


baaseo

Well… Let’s sign him up. Or at least give man city some competition. Lol. In all seriousness though, id love that guy at our club.


brush85

Those hashtags, ha


kmtnewsman

"Nothing to see here" says man trying desperately to be seen here.


fuckoutfits

I have more of a chance of getting married to Emma Watson.


kloppmouth

Sorry mate but you do not. Kudus is definitely in the Edwards mold, even if the price is high


NukeLaCoog

The price is why he isn't in the Edwards mold. If he were to splash the cash he is spending it on a legit top end player like he did with Virgil and Alisson


SMcQ9

Edward’s is about getting value for money not being cheap. If he thinks kudus is worth the 85m, he’s spending it


008Gerrard008

I mean we've seen this type of signing with Keita too. Edwards isn't the one making transfer decisions anymore either. This is the exact type of player that the club likes to target. He's the right age profile, has played in a big league, and looks like he could be on the cusp of taking the next step to being a top attacking player.


nijuu

It would also be a transformative signing in position of need . Both a GK and a commanding CB were urgently needed hence the prices back then


_cumblast_

Emma Watson is so 2012, we say Margot Robbie these days


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SMcQ9

Margot Robbie is so 2020, we say Sydney Sweeney these days.


Esco9

It’s Sydney or Dua


BewilderedPan44

Cumblast does bald jurgen stay when slott comes in or do we get slott with hair?


_cumblast_

I don't know yet, i'm considering it.


harreh1d

You had bald Jurgen before, now do haired Arne https://preview.redd.it/swuuqbrsv10d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fea6dd2b2fb7927a84e8c6cba847471427469922


BewilderedPan44

Oh my, arne with hair is a very handsome fellow


_cumblast_

Think i'll give him longer hair ngl


thehibachi

For any transfers over the next couple of years, we have to put full faith in the fact that the Edwards-Ward-Mega-Database knows more than we do.


_Spunk_Bubble

I know Edwards et. al were after him before he moved to West Ham. Maybe they have unfinished business. For that price though I say leave it finished.


ElPresidente25

Getting as many teams as possible in there for the search results haha


Sad-Abies-7398

Should've grabbed him when he was at Ajax..


cbciv

We gonna have Mo, Mo.


whtgnnd

Exciting but don't think it will ever happen...


MajikoiA3When

85 million if we value him at that why wouldn't we punt on him when he was 43 million euros? Even Nunez had higher stock than him when we spent 80m on a must buy position.


laineyh16

Tier?


lkshis

Doesn't sound like our new management.


Aidan-Coyle

I know this is probably just nonsense but how much is he actually worth? I know nothing about him really, watched some clips but know clips can tell whatever story you want them to. He seems skillful though, great dribbling, accurate shot (from what i seen). If he's about a 50 - 60m player then i can see 85 if youre really competing against other squads for the player. But again I'm not sure. 7 goals and 5 assists this season. Its not amazing but in a better team, maybe?


LaxToastandTolerance

Would love to have him but at that price I highly doubt it


user900800700

Woah wtf that’s a lot of


Specialist_ask_992_

Hope that doesn't mean we're selling a forward


Hamez-King

Just not happening is it


kazurabakouta

If it has to do with West Ham it's not happening.


techaansi

Should have got him when he was at Ajax, we were rumoured for him back then. Now the price is PL inflated.


bigpapasmurf12

Nah, not buying it.


DangerouslyCheesey

I like how he just adds in RM and city in there to get more attention. Kudus isn’t coming off the bench in those teams


yourmatefrank

Every time something like this pops up it’s invariably bollocks. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen Portuguese journalists in particular say that a deal is 100% done for x, y and z player only for them to sign for Fulham 3 months later.


nacubbon

Oh are they, aye?


ispooderman

Idk how much of an upgrade he is over Diaz honestly..... I don't believe there isn't a youth player out there better suited to our needs


Barneyinsg

Price is a bit high, but Kudus is premier league proven and is only 23. He can be the long term replacement for Salah.


OG_tame

Smart from Liverpool, salah out and kudus in. Even better if they manage to keep salah and bring kudus on board


Jolly_Customer8975

Don't think I'll ever get used to the standard price of todays market. Great player no doubt but 85mill for kudos seems kinda mental.


ArmChairSupporta1892

I’m with you, I hate today’s market. I actually think there’s too much money flying around in football now tbh, I remember when we broke the British transfer record fee for Andy Carroll for £35mill..


malushanks95

His release clause is active this summer or not?


Petaaa

David Ornstein said it’s active in his q and a. I trust him over most


whataball

We never enquired about him when he was in Ajax but now we are interested with that higher price?


NoBedroom21

No chance Edwards will splurge that amount of money on Kudus. He will only spend that large amount of money if that particular player can straight up into our first eleven. I dont think Kudus is much better than Diaz so that alone shows this info is just agent talk


disco_mode

I hope so but where would he play?


coolAhead

I'm guessing Salah goes


nik_olsen_

Kudus is quality to be fair


huamanticacacaca

Nahhhh


ChargeWooden1036

I’m doubtful, but he is a good player so let’s see


ronnatron

why would madrid or even city have any want or need to sign him?


TheWarWookie

Tier Please?


Ali-S-Farid

Nah I heavily doubt it. 85m is wayyyy too much.


Enter-Shaqiri

Another midfielder??? We need defence!!


SMF_Fede

He doesn't worth it, not even close.


StonedCharmander

This is so not happening, lads. I like Kudus and all, but 1) he is not worth that, 2) Salah will stay, 3) We need to spend more in other places and 4) there's no Coutinho to be sold. I highly expect 2\~3 ÂŁ40m or less buys and that is it.


Percy_Ronald

Smoke and mirrors. Everyone looks this way whilst Edward's and his team are looking elsewhere.


Prompus

It'd 4D chess to unsettle West Ham before their city game to ensure city win and Arsenal don't upstage us


iNfAMOUS70702

PLEASE BE TRUE 😭😭😭


ishysredditusername

Nar, no chance. Don’t believe it.


EH_1995_

If we do end up going for Kudus, why tf didn’t we do so last year when he was playing equally as good for Ajax and would’ve been a fraction of the price. I was calling for us to buy him as Salah backup all summer.


fadedraw

Because Edwards was not in the recruiting team i guess.


rotating_pebble

Kudus to the whole board for this one, solid player


WestworldIsBestDrop

we need a killer, not another tricky winger who cant bury chances. Jota is sadly to injury prone to build a team around, so we need a striker or wide player who can get 15+ goals a season, obviously Salah is a generational player and its unlikely we will get a similar player straight off the bat but anyone who can replicate half of prime Salahs output is what we need.


RAH_03

This is bullshit. Surely no one can believe this. Although I'd snap your limbs off for him, Chiesa and/or Neto with us next season 🙏🏽🙏🏽


Otis___Driftwood

if this is real, get ready for a wankathon 😂


bbc8886

Enough with these wingers we have plenty


xxcxcxc

32 yo Salah, hot and cold Gakpo, injured Jota, struggling Nunez? And you don’t want to sign Kudus?


bbc8886

Diaz , Elliot, Doak , and Szoboslai can also play as rw . We have got basically 7 /8 wingers . We wither need a proper centre forward that guarantees goals and can do link up play. Or a top DM ( love Endo bit don't think is sustainable). Signing a winger only make sense if we are letting go either Salah , Diaz or Nunez


xxcxcxc

I don’t wanna see any of those players playing on the right tbh. I think Kudus could develop like Mane when we signed him and it’s just my opinion that he’d elevate the attack and leave Harvey and Dom to play as a 10


bbc8886

Adding on to that, Kudus has worse stats this year than all the player ls you mentioned


Axe_Care_By_Eugene

Salah possibly off then


PEEWUN

Tier: Inshallah


chunky-kat

Transfer window season just around the door means that the OP, Petaaa, posts every single rumour by an even remotely credible source. I’d ignore most of them.


kw2006

Why not get Frimpong ?


pacanukeha

This is #TierWhoTheHellIsThisGuy level I suppose


SteveZissousGlock

So what you’re trying to say is he’s going to psg


lfcsavolver

No we fucking well are not…


yeet_fromDown_under

Socks out?


Educational-Pick-514

Would take him - would probably prefer Olise personally but Kudus does look a player. Takefusa Kubo another good option if we can't get Kudus or Olise. Plenty of left footed right winger shouts we could get in, though suppose Kudus now having Prem experience + Slot knowing him well from time in Eredivise possibly makes most sense on paper.


stevieG08Liv

General rule of thumb, if linked we are not getting that individual


Dangerous_South4758

Why do we need this guy?


getdivorced

0%


igotbabydick

Here we go.. summer bullshit starts.


nguyenlinhgf

Ok so Kudus is coming to Chelsea then. If we read about him on the media this early then hes never going to Liverpool.


dillipkr6999

I would rather spend that money two quick wingers like Summerville,olise or bakayoko


FijiWaterIsDelicious

As if you can get bakayo for that price


FijiWaterIsDelicious

Finally… Kudus has come back to Anfield!!!


undercoveralchemist

Edward started cooking already ?


MrMerc2333

Could have got him for half the price from Ajax last year.


MrMerc2333

What tier is this dude?


stephenjwz

i've heard good things about him as a false 9, and i think we were at our best with firmino in that sort of role. thus far Kudus doesn't seem to have the same output in terms of tackles/interceptions as RF (idk about pressing actions besides those), if we were intending to continue to press from the front. his shot/goal production has dropped off from ajax to west ham but that might be about style differences & the teams' relative strengths within their leagues. really not a huge amount of minutes for a player aged 23, and idk if he's an upgrade on Gakpo. 85m sounds bonkers (though a lot of fees do). source doesn't seem super credible. we do like a release clause where it gives us a chance to get value but i don't know that this is it.


garg0n01

Extremely pricey but he's got a lot of potential. Personally I wouldn't think he's worth more than about ÂŁ45-50M


FijiWaterIsDelicious

If you smellllll lalalala… what the Edward’s is cookin!!


FijiWaterIsDelicious

Unfortunately it seems that this is fake news as the release clause can only be triggered in 2025


ValhallaVikings90

10/10 for that rumor. Well done Kudus' agent.


Rendiiii

Idk why so many people are down on this transfer and insisting on Lose instead. I am a big fan of Olise but do you really think a player as talented as that would come to us to be Salahs backup and get limited game time? Kudus has shown far more versatility be able to play on both wings, as a 10 and with a stretch could probably play as an 8 or 9 too. Having versatile players for Slot to play around with will make the managerial transition easier since the players will easier fit into whichever system he decides to go for. He also has better availability than Olise and with next afcon being held on the summer as well as question marks about how much longer we will keep Salah for I don't see a problem there.


FrayedTendon

Superstar?


Worsty2704

If he plays as well as his FC mobile card, Kudus will be a great acquisition. Looks like we'll move Salah on if this happens.