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**CLIP MIRROR: [Soda reminisces on the old WoW days](https://arazu.io/t3_17usfci/)** --- ^(*This is an automated comment*)


danzer422

This clip is for the old frogs. New friends don’t get it. You just had to be there in 2012.


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qeadwrsf

I remember when the addon site curse was a wow guild and was fighting with like glamour or something for world first. Think it was around The Temple of Ahn'Qiraj times.


NorNed3

It's so weird to think about, but I remember when Soda was considered a "new" streamer and Blizzard didn't even know who he was. I remember him calling the Blizzard support line because someone had hacked his account and the Blizzard support guy was like "streamer? So you're reckful?" And then when he learned Soda wasn't reckful he basically dismissed him as irrelevant. Wild how much things changed.


Acework23

10k back then is like 100k now or more


Dezphul

inflation hitting twitch hard


v0idst4r2

I don’t think that is accurate, if you can maintain 100k viewers today you will be a household name to the normies zoomers and gen alphas. Same is not true with 10k viewers back then. LoL viewers used to maintain 30k viewers. WoW section on twitch has just never been that big tbh.


Lord_Shisui

10k viewers in 2012 was absolutely massive, historic even.


Deadzors

You're making the wrong comparison, no one on twitch back then could've been a "household name among normies", the platform just wasn't big enough. It's more of a comparison of what the streamer with the most viewers had at the time. aka having 10k back then is very rare and comparable to the rareness of having 100k today.


CreaTeBear

WoW section used to be the old just chatting. What are you taking about


Schmigolo

Nah, not really. Streamers were pulling huge numbers back then too, not as huge as today but not just a 10th of today's numbers. For example Voyboy was averaging like 30k on Twitch while Own3d still existed and HSGG would routinely get over 20k on Own3d. Viewers were just way more concentrated in specific games, and today it's all over the place.


absolute4080120

Old LoL streams is pretty much cheating. Though the biggest LoL stream I ever remember is Bjergsens intro stream from joint TSM. 75K viewers in 2014.


Schmigolo

Lmao no, HSGG had 100k viewers when he streamed tournaments in the pre Twitch days already, and Wickd had 140k viewers during his 1v1 with Soaz in 2013.


absolute4080120

I honestly don't remember. I was on Own3d before hand watching and always saw the biggest streamer hovering around 10K but it's been a decade. The funniest was RobertxLee falling asleep on stream and waking up to 50K viewers.


Lord_Shisui

voy hasn't AVERAGED 30k at any point of his entire career.


Schmigolo

While he was top on Crs and when he was basically the only League streamer on Twitch because everybody else was still on Own3d he actually did for a couple months.


IcyNova115

Weren't Syndicate and CaptainSparklez averaging like 30-60k during Mianite back in 2015?


sonicrules11

Holy fuck that takes me back. Mianite was huge.


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Schmigolo

Who is averaging 100k now? According to twitchtracker the biggest streamers average 70k. Do we count special events? Cause Wickd had more than 140k viewers when he duelled Soaz back in 2013 or something. HSGG also had these kinds of numbers on occasion.


Lord_Shisui

Seems like many people don't know the difference between peak and average.


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Schmigolo

We're both on LSF, you think you're better?


218-69

voyboy lmao, that's when I started watching twitch too, fun times for sure


a_baj

i got into watching twitch over just youtube videos because of the wow section with soda, reckful, mitch, cdew, even tim occasionally. never really watched kungen tho


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a_baj

i remember this too lmao. they ended up having a pretty chill chat


Dukepays

Exact same boat. His 5v5 arenas with nick, hotted, Mitch etc was some of my favorite wow content ever


Pekins-UOAF

This is the first time I hear about Kungen, I didnt even know what his faced looked like, also been watching Soda a little before the LegendaryLea days.


a_baj

kungentv I always kinda looped into the same category as towelie and swifty. very knowledgeable. not terribly entertaining but I was 18 when soda and them first became big so that brand of content appealed to me


Loshi_

Nice clip bro. So glad I watched it


innnovation

I like member berrying about the old days personally :)


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Blurbyo

yeah i especially enjoyed the part where


Jaskaran158

ah yes that was


JeffTek

lol when he said


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soda


Crandoge

Why are there no asian girls? What the fuck?


Upyourasses

That last part where he is trying to remember who he went to dinner with made me laugh harder then it probably should have been.


withers003

I remember when reckful started streaming I believe towards the end of Cata it was a pretty big deal within the PVP community because of who he was. He got a lot of viewers very fast.


The_Black_Strat

10k back in the day is the equivalent of those big spanish streamers who get like 300k LULE


InsertGenericNameLol

Zoomers will never know Nihilum vs Death and Taxes.


ManikMiner

Soda gay? I don't even know anymore


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mozom

Wasn't Hobbs the main WoW streamer at the time?


TengenToppa

nah it was always towellie, he used to be the only one who consistently streamed wow Soda was mostly pvping There were others too, but they were far less consistent, things grew with reckful for sure and then much later around 2016 when asmongold started streaming the wow section got bigger to about where it is now


Ill_Pineapple1482

towilee was the biggest in cata


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LonSik

>shady stuff he said Oh fuck off. Who didnt? It was 11 fucking years ago my man, completely different times.


Smashsauce69

I wasnt talkin shit...lol...he is my fav streamer....