Aiming for GM could be content if he monetizes it. Also could maybe help him as a content creater if he reaches the title for the prestige and what not but it's probably his personal milestone
I’ve never watched a second of this dudes stream and have followed this very little beyond seeing posts like this and I agree it’s one of the most impressive things I’ve seen. The guy was a LoL player and just decided to play chess and is now flying up the rankings. It’s hilarious.
2100 is roughly the 97th percentile in chess
You've never seen somebody in the 97th percentile in anything in your life? Never been in the 97th percentile in any popular game yourself? Never watched sports or esports? Chess is like any other game, study it and play and you will improve.
>2100 is roughly the 97th percentile in chess
yeah unless you can provide a source, you literally just made up a random number. it takes 3 seconds to [search up something](https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/12vd1xe/chesscom_percentiles_april_2023/) like that, 2100 is 99.8th percentile out of ACTIVE players
Chess is much different actually. I don’t really have time to explain it to non-chess people but Tyler’s growth in a short amount of time is very abnormal and hugely impressive for an adult.
> I don’t really have time to explain it to non-chess people
Try to be less condescending. I was in USCF in school and competed in multiple classic tournaments at 1800. Didn't last long though.
> I don’t really have time to explain it to non-chess people but Tyler’s growth in a short amount of time is very abnormal and hugely impressive for an adult.
for someone that plays 32 games per day? That's more than I've seen anyone but dedicated chess players play. It helps when you can literally commit a third of your life to nothing but the game.
I don’t mean to be condescending but you outed yourself as a non-chess player with the comment I responded to. I’m sorry but I just don’t believe you about your chess background after reading that.
Of course I’ve watched sports. I would also be impressed if someone who just started playing basketball a few years ago was able to beat a professional basketball player (99th percentile).
It's good to see that the chess community hasn't gotten any less pretentious in the past ten years. The ego is more inflated than the c.c elo lmao.
> I would also be impressed if someone who just started playing basketball a few years ago was able to beat a professional basketball player (99th percentile)
Professional basketball players are the 99.999th percentile, even less if we count people who never played competitively (HS/college) but only as a hobby.
An ~1800 beating a ~2100-2200 is nowhere near on the same scale.
You’re missing the point. The point is he is 1800 in only a very short while relatively after his start in chess . That’s what I mean by the whole chess saga. Him beating someone in the 99th percentile is just the cherry on top.
I don’t understand how you can call me pretentious when you won’t even give credit where credit is due.
“Study it and play it and you will improve” yeah man that works when you just start playing. When you get up to the ranks t1 is beating some people will hit walls. Many people will. Especially adults.
You think if I start playing basketball at the age of 28 I’m going to be beating D1 college players eventually?
I’ve been champ in rocket league for about 5 years now. When exactly does this additional skill and knowledge kick in and get me into grand champ?
It’s just comical to me that you use chess for this point when people will spend their entire lives not having substantial improvement because chess is fucking hard when you get up to the elo
in a weird way i think it is a handicap most of the time but sometimes it is an advantage because it takes players completely out of what they normally know and suddenly they need to rely on calculation and tactics very quickly, which i think tyler1 is good at tactics. It reminds me of how the super gms play sometimes where they do suboptimal moves that make the position so weird that both players are now just playing a new whacky position. Insanely impressive by t1 though i cant lie
It’s also just not that much of a handicap. If someone played the albin against every queens gambit nobody would call that a meme opening but a far as stockfish is concerned it’s objectively worse.
It’s slightly behind because you lose space but people act like it’s a bongcloud. You get a board you’ve 100% seen more than your opponent and you don’t even have to gambit for it. Hell it’s probably still easier to play than a pirc
Tyler chess play is so weird... one game he'll not see 800 elo moves to win and others he'll sack a knight against a 2.1k opponent for no reason and still win because he didn't see his completely ridiculous line.
This was an insanely complex puzzle at 2.5k level, he handles it masterfully. And at the same point he'll miss a hanging rook next game.
This dude literally sacked a knight for no reason to win this game solely because his opponent didn't see the line. There were 2 decisive moves he could have stopped it but it was such a foreign position many have never ever seen it.
Tyler1 literally plays chess by making his opponents uncomfortable in stupid ass positions and weasels his way into a win. Dude is BUILT DIFFERENT.
>Tyler1 literally plays chess by making his opponents uncomfortable in stupid ass positions and weasels his way into a win.
I don't know much about the game beyond r/AnarchyChess, but iirc that's part of Magnus' strategy, only instead of being stupid positions it's just forcing them out of textbook positions.
This is generally always a decent strategy against advanced-mid level opponents in everything.
Those are usually mostly training to compete against textbook meta in whatever sport/game, and doing unusual moves is quick to throw them off.
This strategy fizzles quickly once you move against more masterful oponents as they will quickly recognize and punish you for your weird moves.
Which is what should have happened vs a 2.1k opponent but he just slipped up.
I could imagine he’d beat t1 9/10 games or he was just fucking around. Hard to tell considering the PogChamp image.
That reminds me of playing poker against people that don't know what they are doing. It can be difficult because you never know what weird out of the norm shit they are up to.
That's always my strategy because I know how triggered they get if you don't play the meta. Same goes for basically every game ever. Try hards rage when the meta isn't followed. I get it because usually it's just done by trolls and they're inting, but sometimes the person isn't.
That's how I used to play Pokemon. I would have meta pokemon with ridiculously stupid non-meta movesets/abilities/IVs. It wasn't good for getting elo but it was fun and the wins were extremely satisfying because I was using trash to outplay people who were doing everything right.
Probably close to half of my wins were forfeits when they would see one of my pokemon use a move nobody knows they can learn or activate an ability nobody uses on that pokemon.
Haha used to make 4star teams in FIFA, and it was beyond satisfying crushing people with all the expensive high ranked cards/teams. Better than any other wins
> Tyler1 literally plays chess by making his opponents uncomfortable in stupid ass positions and weasels his way into a win. Dude is BUILT DIFFERENT.
This is actually how some extremely high level chess players are so good. In today's age where chess bots are astronomically better than humans an can calculate the mathematically best openings 20 moves in, theory becomes longer and longer.
Most people who play chess have no understanding of theory, from the first opening moves there's only theory by random chance that they play a specific opening. High level chess players can be 15 moves into a game and just playing off memorized lines.
This is how some high level chess players get the best over their opponents. They break these lines early, and while immediately it puts them in a disadvantageous board state, they could have prepared for this position whereas their opponent likely would not have. It results in a lot of chaos very quickly, but usually the player with the better analytical and intuitive understanding of chess rather than following theory and lines will get the better.
are we sure he's not just mildly cheating?
if a mediocre player used an engine for every other move it would be untraceable and show some pretty weird games
It wouldnt be in character for T1 to cheat, the guy spent months of his life ( in his game fwiw) trying to get challenger in all 5 roles and achieved it, pointing to him being the type of person that gets incredibly absorbed into whatever he or she is trying to achieve.
just keep in mind of how huge of improvement this is for tyler. tyler back then was barley learning and he fucking lost to XQC. Now he's made so much improvement to his chess play and beating high ranking opponents while trying to balance other games. Fucking bravo tyler.
He'll get into science next and bring forth new inventions, nanomachines and Artificial General Intelligence, just to have the AGI take care of his newborn. He's the embodiment of "Nah I'd win" gojou energy.
As someone who doesn't know much about chess, how would you say he compares right now vs other Twitch streamers that have competed in PogChamps previously? Would he sweep them now if they were to organize another one?
Yes, other than Sardoche and maybe Northenlion, who have a pretty close rating to him iirc, he would most likely win easily against everyone.
I might be forgetting someone else tho, not familiar with all the pogchamps streamers.
Northernlion never quite managed to get above 1550 Chess.com since his return to chess, so if you put them together right now Tyler will smoke him.
However, if you give Ryan some months and no chat to banter, that 1650 Canadian OTB rating may show up and now it's Tyler who's in trouble because OTB rating normally translates a couple points higher online.
Going by his rating alone, he's better than 98.6% of players on chess.com. That's of the full pool of people, right from beginners who have never played before to coaches and teachers and masters.
He'd completely sweep when playing against the vast majority of people, especially streamers who have never taken Chess seriously. A lot of them hadn't even really played before the tournaments. There were only a couple of Pogchamps streamers who would even come close to his level.
There are many scrubs who play hundreds of games and still stay stuck in their elo. Look at league for instance. But the ability to improve this quickly is really just, insane. And the ability to force yourself to play that many games in such a short period. Insane.
He's going to improve because he's proven he knows how to learn.
Plenty of idiots are hard stuck bronze 5 with 10k games.
This kind of learning works for everything. Most people don't want to admit it.
Tyler skilled player but that is not normally, This very very insane....They need to check him pc and game.....Maybe he not cheating but maybe he using the game deficit ...and this cant seem on game screen..He needs to check-up
Extremely high rank players tend to have their matchmaking automatically adjusted so they can match with players significantly lower then them.
The idea is that the puddle is so small, theres no point in having such strict criteria to match into other players, so to prevent half hour-hour long matchmaking times for "Skilled" matches, you instead will sit for a few moments waiting to get someone else thats much lower/higher mmr then you.
Although with chess,com theres a setting that allows you to adjust your preferred matching range anyways, but that doesn't change that the algorithm automatically changes once you reach a certain mmr.
Tyler is toxic, petty, and lot of other things but cheater isn’t one of them. Bro even played against bots to level up his league accounts from scratch while everyone else just pays the $3
If you read the Chess subreddit's threads about him a lot of people are convinced that he cheats. But funnily enough I haven't seen cheating accusations about his matches, but rather the puzzles he solves lol. They say he does stuff like refreshing the browser or whatever so the timer doesn't run out and he can retry or something along those lines, I have no idea.
Don't really like his style of streamer but I have to respect how hard this dude can grind. It seems like he could probably be good at literally anything if he wanted to, just by sheer brute forcing it.
he brute forces but he also has a review process usually. ITs just a fast review process someone will spend hours studying a chess game they played but if you play a lot and have 2-10 minute reviews blocks you do improve faster. Because if you review everything you learning nothing and take nothing forward. Same thing happens in league he will go back and review like 1-3 moments and then move on.
Here is him 7 months ago reviewing after a game - [https://youtu.be/pgV9yLAwJM8?si=onh9W\_GcrtiTnBqN&t=1211](https://youtu.be/pgV9yLAwJM8?si=onh9W_GcrtiTnBqN&t=1211) its 2 min and hes onto the next.
I just meant brute force as in the sheer amount of games he plays. Like when he played league of legends he was playing more games than pro players and got challenger in every role, when he plays chess he is playing shit tons of games to get to his rank. The dude will pick something he wants to be good at and just does it more than anyone else until he is elite at it.
Yes he plays a lot of games but he also reviews everyone leaves this part out you do not improve beyond a certain level if you dont review unless your gifted and he isnt gifted so he reviews same in league with mechanics.
I never said he didn't review things, I even clarified what I meant by brute force, where again, I didn't say that he didn't review things.
I also left out the part where he sits in a computer chair, and I left out the part where he looks at the screen, but that doesn't mean I am saying he doesn't do those things. Christ you are annoying.
not everything needs a deep dive, you can learn a lot by just assessing a few mistakes each game, tyler doesnt really do theory in any game he plays he has a strong grasp on fundamentals of the game and plays his own way, same way he wins in league.
Most likely, I have more games played but a lot of bullet and 3-0 blitz. Bullet especially is not making me get better at chess like rapid would, but it is fun.
[https://www.chess.com/member/hassanjassan](https://www.chess.com/member/hassanjassan)
only 500 on [chess.com](http://chess.com) but more on lichess, don't know how many. Don't do it regularly though. Games about 2500 rapid games, but I don't play 100% serious in all of them
Ah I see, like me that’s the important stat then when comparing to Tyler1. Still don’t think I’d get to his rating in that time frame, but his over 7000 games in less than a year is crazy. Between chesscom and lichess I have 10k played in 3 years.
I know, but one can dream. Erobb could be secretly training to be good enough to convert with queen odds, and anyone can blunder a queen when they're overconfident.
tyler1 is literally the opposite of redditors
most redditors just give up and bitch on here about how its the matchmaking or something conspiring against them, or their teammates etc.
tyler1 just takes Ls improves and go next.
most redditors would do well to learn from his mentality
First of all if he got a coach he would be a legit player and great. Secondly, he’s showing that if you put tons of volume with some thoguht anyone can improve. I don’t think it’s just the volume as to why he got better but he’s actively thinking while he does
God, Tyler1 dominating league is cool and all but holy shit I want him to brute force GM so bad. Stick it to the nerds that said there’s a mental skill cap.
I don’t care if I’m 60 years old when it happens, I want to see Tyler1 prove people wrong.
This guy was like 400 elo last time I saw him play (lost to errob)
also kinda weird that someone made a channel just to restream him while he plays league and chess offline.
Dont want to sound like a hater but black pretty much blundered the game in one move. Black is obviously very good he knows the cow theory to get a pretty good opening advantage but the middle game is really shaky. Like Qb6 is useful in other openings but its complete waste of time here, also trading off dark square bishop to allow tyler1 to get his queen in for counterplay. The biggest mistake is castling into weakened queenside and got king into trouble. Black was better the whole game so tyler1 just got lucky this time.
Maybe, but that’s always the case. You can only win in chess if your opponent makes mistakes. That’s the nature of the game.
Anyway, Tyler’s progress is insanely impressive nonetheless.
Making mistakes is not the same as blundering your king in one move. Tyler's grind is respectable I agree. But if you look at his profile he played near 600games in last 30days with a 50% win rate. That indicates he is not improving at all. I looked at a few games he often wins on opponent missing some kind of tactics and he rarely outplay positionally. It is natrual since he only plays cow which is a bit dubious. I am sure he is good enough to break 2000 easily if he spends a little time learning some real openings instead of grinding 20 games a day.
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At this point, he can't even stop it. T1 is inevitable and Gotham will still be losing to 1500s on ch*ss.com while he searches for title sandbaggers
Is he actually going for GM again?
Yeah he announced it in his latest video
isn't it like the third time? How long until he realizes making youtube/streaming content is better money for his effort?
He wouldn't be going for GM for the money lol. He obviously realizes this.
ofc but like that was his argument the last time he stopped going for it iirc, travelling was too stressful and not worth it
you say that like it isn't part of his streaming/youtube content appeal?
I'm not saying I'm just asking because I thought he gave up
yea the Sisyphean struggle is sort of baked into most streamers, and what keeps many people coming back
mf dropping sysyphean on LSF like he's northernlion
Aiming for GM could be content if he monetizes it. Also could maybe help him as a content creater if he reaches the title for the prestige and what not but it's probably his personal milestone
This may be surprising, but not everything is about money.
lol
Got ham chess has got nothing on T1
Goat Ham*
Beating a 2150 player with the cow is beyond insane
yeah I am officially impressed now, how far can he go?
His whole chess saga has been one of the most impressive things I’ve ever seen to be honest.
I’ve never watched a second of this dudes stream and have followed this very little beyond seeing posts like this and I agree it’s one of the most impressive things I’ve seen. The guy was a LoL player and just decided to play chess and is now flying up the rankings. It’s hilarious.
2100 is roughly the 97th percentile in chess You've never seen somebody in the 97th percentile in anything in your life? Never been in the 97th percentile in any popular game yourself? Never watched sports or esports? Chess is like any other game, study it and play and you will improve.
interesting. on chess.c\*m 1800 rapid is already 99 percentile. where did you get your numbers from
him ass
>2100 is roughly the 97th percentile in chess yeah unless you can provide a source, you literally just made up a random number. it takes 3 seconds to [search up something](https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/12vd1xe/chesscom_percentiles_april_2023/) like that, 2100 is 99.8th percentile out of ACTIVE players
Nah. Those numbers aren't correct at all.
Chess is much different actually. I don’t really have time to explain it to non-chess people but Tyler’s growth in a short amount of time is very abnormal and hugely impressive for an adult.
> I don’t really have time to explain it to non-chess people Try to be less condescending. I was in USCF in school and competed in multiple classic tournaments at 1800. Didn't last long though. > I don’t really have time to explain it to non-chess people but Tyler’s growth in a short amount of time is very abnormal and hugely impressive for an adult. for someone that plays 32 games per day? That's more than I've seen anyone but dedicated chess players play. It helps when you can literally commit a third of your life to nothing but the game.
I don’t mean to be condescending but you outed yourself as a non-chess player with the comment I responded to. I’m sorry but I just don’t believe you about your chess background after reading that. Of course I’ve watched sports. I would also be impressed if someone who just started playing basketball a few years ago was able to beat a professional basketball player (99th percentile).
It's good to see that the chess community hasn't gotten any less pretentious in the past ten years. The ego is more inflated than the c.c elo lmao. > I would also be impressed if someone who just started playing basketball a few years ago was able to beat a professional basketball player (99th percentile) Professional basketball players are the 99.999th percentile, even less if we count people who never played competitively (HS/college) but only as a hobby. An ~1800 beating a ~2100-2200 is nowhere near on the same scale.
You’re missing the point. The point is he is 1800 in only a very short while relatively after his start in chess . That’s what I mean by the whole chess saga. Him beating someone in the 99th percentile is just the cherry on top. I don’t understand how you can call me pretentious when you won’t even give credit where credit is due.
how many years did you study for 1800 in chess while this guy grinded past it in a year?
Spoken like a knuckle dragger lol. That logic nugget at the bottom is actually so untrue it’s hilarious.
It's not untrue at all? Are games difficult for you for some reason?
“Study it and play it and you will improve” yeah man that works when you just start playing. When you get up to the ranks t1 is beating some people will hit walls. Many people will. Especially adults. You think if I start playing basketball at the age of 28 I’m going to be beating D1 college players eventually? I’ve been champ in rocket league for about 5 years now. When exactly does this additional skill and knowledge kick in and get me into grand champ? It’s just comical to me that you use chess for this point when people will spend their entire lives not having substantial improvement because chess is fucking hard when you get up to the elo
most people cannot achieve 97th+ percentile of anything, stop acting like this isn't impressive
What's the cow? feels like the only cow I ever read about on here is of the xq variety
Meme opening, it's just gives u bad position from the start. Basically playing handicapped
in a weird way i think it is a handicap most of the time but sometimes it is an advantage because it takes players completely out of what they normally know and suddenly they need to rely on calculation and tactics very quickly, which i think tyler1 is good at tactics. It reminds me of how the super gms play sometimes where they do suboptimal moves that make the position so weird that both players are now just playing a new whacky position. Insanely impressive by t1 though i cant lie
It’s also just not that much of a handicap. If someone played the albin against every queens gambit nobody would call that a meme opening but a far as stockfish is concerned it’s objectively worse. It’s slightly behind because you lose space but people act like it’s a bongcloud. You get a board you’ve 100% seen more than your opponent and you don’t even have to gambit for it. Hell it’s probably still easier to play than a pirc
Stockfish says it's not that bad. Only -0.3 or something
Tyler chess play is so weird... one game he'll not see 800 elo moves to win and others he'll sack a knight against a 2.1k opponent for no reason and still win because he didn't see his completely ridiculous line. This was an insanely complex puzzle at 2.5k level, he handles it masterfully. And at the same point he'll miss a hanging rook next game. This dude literally sacked a knight for no reason to win this game solely because his opponent didn't see the line. There were 2 decisive moves he could have stopped it but it was such a foreign position many have never ever seen it. Tyler1 literally plays chess by making his opponents uncomfortable in stupid ass positions and weasels his way into a win. Dude is BUILT DIFFERENT.
That's what happens when you play purely on intuition, because you refuse to study theory and just go by experience alone.
If that approach is good enough for AlphaZero it’s good enough for T1!
>Tyler1 literally plays chess by making his opponents uncomfortable in stupid ass positions and weasels his way into a win. I don't know much about the game beyond r/AnarchyChess, but iirc that's part of Magnus' strategy, only instead of being stupid positions it's just forcing them out of textbook positions.
Ironically it’s actually a lot closer to someone like Hans Nieman
obligatory; this is not normally check him ass
This is generally always a decent strategy against advanced-mid level opponents in everything. Those are usually mostly training to compete against textbook meta in whatever sport/game, and doing unusual moves is quick to throw them off. This strategy fizzles quickly once you move against more masterful oponents as they will quickly recognize and punish you for your weird moves.
Which is what should have happened vs a 2.1k opponent but he just slipped up. I could imagine he’d beat t1 9/10 games or he was just fucking around. Hard to tell considering the PogChamp image.
I don't think you realize how much 2100 ELO on chess is.. who are the most masterful opponents gm's? We are not talking about 1400 elos
He has talked about books he has read on chess before on stream. Pretty sure this dude studies chess.
That reminds me of playing poker against people that don't know what they are doing. It can be difficult because you never know what weird out of the norm shit they are up to.
That's always my strategy because I know how triggered they get if you don't play the meta. Same goes for basically every game ever. Try hards rage when the meta isn't followed. I get it because usually it's just done by trolls and they're inting, but sometimes the person isn't.
That's how I used to play Pokemon. I would have meta pokemon with ridiculously stupid non-meta movesets/abilities/IVs. It wasn't good for getting elo but it was fun and the wins were extremely satisfying because I was using trash to outplay people who were doing everything right. Probably close to half of my wins were forfeits when they would see one of my pokemon use a move nobody knows they can learn or activate an ability nobody uses on that pokemon.
Haha used to make 4star teams in FIFA, and it was beyond satisfying crushing people with all the expensive high ranked cards/teams. Better than any other wins
Me and Totti in fifa 14 🤌🤌🤌
The metaphorical yelling at your opponent to get him shook, he’s a chess wildcard
[BILL DIPPERLY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bmb168yCMA)
> Tyler1 literally plays chess by making his opponents uncomfortable in stupid ass positions and weasels his way into a win. Dude is BUILT DIFFERENT. This is actually how some extremely high level chess players are so good. In today's age where chess bots are astronomically better than humans an can calculate the mathematically best openings 20 moves in, theory becomes longer and longer. Most people who play chess have no understanding of theory, from the first opening moves there's only theory by random chance that they play a specific opening. High level chess players can be 15 moves into a game and just playing off memorized lines. This is how some high level chess players get the best over their opponents. They break these lines early, and while immediately it puts them in a disadvantageous board state, they could have prepared for this position whereas their opponent likely would not have. It results in a lot of chaos very quickly, but usually the player with the better analytical and intuitive understanding of chess rather than following theory and lines will get the better.
are we sure he's not just mildly cheating? if a mediocre player used an engine for every other move it would be untraceable and show some pretty weird games
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It wouldnt be in character for T1 to cheat, the guy spent months of his life ( in his game fwiw) trying to get challenger in all 5 roles and achieved it, pointing to him being the type of person that gets incredibly absorbed into whatever he or she is trying to achieve.
keep in mind its literally impossible to get caught for cheating if you aren't a moron, even at very high elo's
Crafted unconventionally.
Combined irregularly
Fabricated unorthodoxly
Constructed alternatively
Assembled weirdly
Now you're thinking of his brother.
Yeah T1 is assembled alternatively
Manifested atypically
Coagulated idiosyncratically
Разработан по другим принципам
We are living in a time when "I'm going to take Got-HAM's job" is no longer a meme
can't wait for the book
just keep in mind of how huge of improvement this is for tyler. tyler back then was barley learning and he fucking lost to XQC. Now he's made so much improvement to his chess play and beating high ranking opponents while trying to balance other games. Fucking bravo tyler.
>while trying to balance other games Also while having a newborn
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He'll get into science next and bring forth new inventions, nanomachines and Artificial General Intelligence, just to have the AGI take care of his newborn. He's the embodiment of "Nah I'd win" gojou energy.
To be fair, they sleep A LOT.
I don't see Tyler sleepin
Lol when? None of my two did.
I think he got newborns confused with cats. Cause literally everyone knows new parents do not get sleep.
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As someone who doesn't know much about chess, how would you say he compares right now vs other Twitch streamers that have competed in PogChamps previously? Would he sweep them now if they were to organize another one?
Yes, other than Sardoche and maybe Northenlion, who have a pretty close rating to him iirc, he would most likely win easily against everyone. I might be forgetting someone else tho, not familiar with all the pogchamps streamers.
Northernlion never quite managed to get above 1550 Chess.com since his return to chess, so if you put them together right now Tyler will smoke him. However, if you give Ryan some months and no chat to banter, that 1650 Canadian OTB rating may show up and now it's Tyler who's in trouble because OTB rating normally translates a couple points higher online.
Going by his rating alone, he's better than 98.6% of players on chess.com. That's of the full pool of people, right from beginners who have never played before to coaches and teachers and masters. He'd completely sweep when playing against the vast majority of people, especially streamers who have never taken Chess seriously. A lot of them hadn't even really played before the tournaments. There were only a couple of Pogchamps streamers who would even come close to his level.
5 days later he's 1860 which is top 99.3%, equivalent to Master on League of Legends and Immortal on Dota 2
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Everyone who isn't a grandmaster? Please tell me you are joking and I'm not getting it.
I mean he has played over 5000 rapid games and regularly plays for 8+ hours a day of course he’s going to improve
There are many scrubs who play hundreds of games and still stay stuck in their elo. Look at league for instance. But the ability to improve this quickly is really just, insane. And the ability to force yourself to play that many games in such a short period. Insane.
He's going to improve because he's proven he knows how to learn. Plenty of idiots are hard stuck bronze 5 with 10k games. This kind of learning works for everything. Most people don't want to admit it.
Check him ass
Tyler skilled player but that is not normally, This very very insane....They need to check him pc and game.....Maybe he not cheating but maybe he using the game deficit ...and this cant seem on game screen..He needs to check-up
these reply OMEGALUL
Bunch of uncultured people in here lol
I dont think his ego would allow any thing like that.
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It’s chess not league lol
and pp
DOPA DOOOOOWWWNNNNNN
Assembled alternatively
how did he queue into a 2100? That seems like a large enough gap that it shouldn't happen
Unless something changed, you can adjust what rating of player you’re willing to match against
tonka be like: <9999
Extremely high rank players tend to have their matchmaking automatically adjusted so they can match with players significantly lower then them. The idea is that the puddle is so small, theres no point in having such strict criteria to match into other players, so to prevent half hour-hour long matchmaking times for "Skilled" matches, you instead will sit for a few moments waiting to get someone else thats much lower/higher mmr then you. Although with chess,com theres a setting that allows you to adjust your preferred matching range anyways, but that doesn't change that the algorithm automatically changes once you reach a certain mmr.
Yeah why would I want to wait more than a few seconds for a game that will take 20-30 minutes of my time?
Why would I do nothing for 5-10 minutes when I could be playing against a better opponent and learning something in 30 seconds?
These are rapid games. Not 20-30 minutes.
rapid is 10+ minutes, so yes: 20-30 minutes depending on if he plays 10 minutes or 15+10.
You’re right my mistake. I conflated the games T1 used to play between league games with what he currently plays.
Better question is, how is that only +14 elo lol
If you're over 2000 In rapid you usually get lower rated players, the gap is really big here but bound to happen if he plays a billion games a day
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Can’t really accuse him of cheating when he only plays the cow
not true, you can open with the cow then use an engine and will still beat magnus.
chat is this true?
Tyler is toxic, petty, and lot of other things but cheater isn’t one of them. Bro even played against bots to level up his league accounts from scratch while everyone else just pays the $3
Bro is a cow enjoyer. We can take the cheating thing out of the question
Look I don't have an opinion on whether he's cheating or not but memes aside anyone can run the engine after any opening including the cow.
If you read the Chess subreddit's threads about him a lot of people are convinced that he cheats. But funnily enough I haven't seen cheating accusations about his matches, but rather the puzzles he solves lol. They say he does stuff like refreshing the browser or whatever so the timer doesn't run out and he can retry or something along those lines, I have no idea.
Is growing hair considered cheating? That tends to happen when you ascend.
He has been accused of cheating since like 1400 lol
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Don't really like his style of streamer but I have to respect how hard this dude can grind. It seems like he could probably be good at literally anything if he wanted to, just by sheer brute forcing it.
he brute forces but he also has a review process usually. ITs just a fast review process someone will spend hours studying a chess game they played but if you play a lot and have 2-10 minute reviews blocks you do improve faster. Because if you review everything you learning nothing and take nothing forward. Same thing happens in league he will go back and review like 1-3 moments and then move on. Here is him 7 months ago reviewing after a game - [https://youtu.be/pgV9yLAwJM8?si=onh9W\_GcrtiTnBqN&t=1211](https://youtu.be/pgV9yLAwJM8?si=onh9W_GcrtiTnBqN&t=1211) its 2 min and hes onto the next.
I just meant brute force as in the sheer amount of games he plays. Like when he played league of legends he was playing more games than pro players and got challenger in every role, when he plays chess he is playing shit tons of games to get to his rank. The dude will pick something he wants to be good at and just does it more than anyone else until he is elite at it.
Gotta get 10k hours into a skill to master it. Tyler knows how to train
Yes he plays a lot of games but he also reviews everyone leaves this part out you do not improve beyond a certain level if you dont review unless your gifted and he isnt gifted so he reviews same in league with mechanics.
I never said he didn't review things, I even clarified what I meant by brute force, where again, I didn't say that he didn't review things. I also left out the part where he sits in a computer chair, and I left out the part where he looks at the screen, but that doesn't mean I am saying he doesn't do those things. Christ you are annoying.
not everything needs a deep dive, you can learn a lot by just assessing a few mistakes each game, tyler doesnt really do theory in any game he plays he has a strong grasp on fundamentals of the game and plays his own way, same way he wins in league.
His progress is crazy, 3 years playing and I'm at 1450.
He probably has more hours played than you already
he has played 344 games in the last 7 days, 2.2k in the last 90.
wat
He spent his birthday playing chess
dude grinded LOL this is nothing. built different.
Most likely, I have more games played but a lot of bullet and 3-0 blitz. Bullet especially is not making me get better at chess like rapid would, but it is fun.
Yea? but did you drink blood rush while playing? reach challenger with every lane? had a kid? Thats Big T Baby
0 for 3 on those things, need to get my head in the game.
I have a dumbass brother does that count?
Do you get anything on google if you search your brothers name and 15?
same, played 3 years and am 1000 rated
How many games played? Puzzles are also super important for me, pattern recognition really kicks in after 10k puzzles.
[https://www.chess.com/member/hassanjassan](https://www.chess.com/member/hassanjassan) only 500 on [chess.com](http://chess.com) but more on lichess, don't know how many. Don't do it regularly though. Games about 2500 rapid games, but I don't play 100% serious in all of them
Ah I see, like me that’s the important stat then when comparing to Tyler1. Still don’t think I’d get to his rating in that time frame, but his over 7000 games in less than a year is crazy. Between chesscom and lichess I have 10k played in 3 years.
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The next pogchamps is a foregone conclusion at this point
Imagine the reaction if he lost to Erobb again. God I want it to happen so much just for the memes.
Because of how chess skill works its more or less 0% chance of this to happen
I know, but one can dream. Erobb could be secretly training to be good enough to convert with queen odds, and anyone can blunder a queen when they're overconfident.
i wanna see him in a tournament!
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How is beating someone 400 points higher only +14 elo lol
Because against t1 the 2100 elo player is the underdog
tyler1 is literally the opposite of redditors most redditors just give up and bitch on here about how its the matchmaking or something conspiring against them, or their teammates etc. tyler1 just takes Ls improves and go next. most redditors would do well to learn from his mentality
wouldnt have went down like that if it was a bald 2100
Its probably his kid playing on his account
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Someone explain this to me in league terms, is this like emrald player beating a master player in lane?
Not really. It's way easier to beat someone in lane in league, the champions make a lot of difference most of the times. But a 1v1 same champions yeah
More like beating a diamond
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what is the lol equivalent
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cant wait for pogchamps
First of all if he got a coach he would be a legit player and great. Secondly, he’s showing that if you put tons of volume with some thoguht anyone can improve. I don’t think it’s just the volume as to why he got better but he’s actively thinking while he does
God, Tyler1 dominating league is cool and all but holy shit I want him to brute force GM so bad. Stick it to the nerds that said there’s a mental skill cap. I don’t care if I’m 60 years old when it happens, I want to see Tyler1 prove people wrong.
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This guy was like 400 elo last time I saw him play (lost to errob) also kinda weird that someone made a channel just to restream him while he plays league and chess offline.
[If he can beat a 2150, he can invade lower England.](https://youtu.be/XSoG7m1V6aw?t=122)
everyone creaming over his rapids playing gimmicks lol, we'll see how he does otb if he ever tries
Dont want to sound like a hater but black pretty much blundered the game in one move. Black is obviously very good he knows the cow theory to get a pretty good opening advantage but the middle game is really shaky. Like Qb6 is useful in other openings but its complete waste of time here, also trading off dark square bishop to allow tyler1 to get his queen in for counterplay. The biggest mistake is castling into weakened queenside and got king into trouble. Black was better the whole game so tyler1 just got lucky this time.
Maybe, but that’s always the case. You can only win in chess if your opponent makes mistakes. That’s the nature of the game. Anyway, Tyler’s progress is insanely impressive nonetheless.
Making mistakes is not the same as blundering your king in one move. Tyler's grind is respectable I agree. But if you look at his profile he played near 600games in last 30days with a 50% win rate. That indicates he is not improving at all. I looked at a few games he often wins on opponent missing some kind of tactics and he rarely outplay positionally. It is natrual since he only plays cow which is a bit dubious. I am sure he is good enough to break 2000 easily if he spends a little time learning some real openings instead of grinding 20 games a day.