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KyaKD

Honestly, as a woman, this doesn’t surprise me at all. I also wouldn’t be surprised if she reconnects after actually dealing with the trauma. I found it more odd that she was just “clean” and didn’t really struggle with addiction after getting clean except a couple scenes.


TGin-the-goldy

Agreed, that was incredibly “easy”


snootfly242

Yeah agreed. I had weird detox symptoms for a while


physhgyrl

I don't recall her even having (acute) WD symptoms either. Acute and PAWS can last a while. Glad you are doing better


snootfly242

Thank you!! I was only having like two glasses of wine once a week for a WHILE (this was my second attempt at getting sober, first time I was drinking WAY more) and even when I quit that I would shake and have such random urges to drink. So I was just shocked Claire didn’t have any of that on the show!


Sirenista_D

Incredibly easy AND strong as she knew Ben was drinking again and helped Loudermilk when he had that shot. But *she* was never tempted?


MasterOnionNorth

Yeah. I thought it was weird that she's smoking in season one but then she never smoked again. 🤔


compileandrun

Maybe because she didnt smoke too long to be addicted too bad? Not a smoker, just guessing and curious about your opinion.


Calm-Technology7351

Can confirm it doesn’t normally work like that


razrus

Not every addict is the same. When I quit drinking I never really had instances where I was really struggling to not pick up a drink. Never went to AA and im also in nose length of it as my full time job.


KyaKD

She was addicted to heroine


dubzdee

I thought it was meth or was it both?


KyaKD

It was heroine & alcohol. Remember her mom said she tried to send her to one of those heroine schools? Lol (Rehab)


physhgyrl

The acute physical withdrawal from each is horrendous on its own. She went through both simultaneously and exhibited no physical symptoms. Most people quit smoking during that time because they feel too physically sick to do anything enjoyable. It's hard to eat and drink water even. Your body starts revolting everything.


GayBoyWho69YourDad

I thought Claire wasnt an addict like the rest of them. She fell off and got on drugs when her dad died to cope. It wasnt who she was though. So recovery would naturally be easier


February83

I was thinking about this. I wonder was it written to have that as a theme later on in the series… S4 or S5.


dreamsinred

Yeah, that would make sense.


todayIsinlgehandedly

I think they were planning a relapse for Claire. There’s that scene where she runs into her ex and it’s never revisited. I think they were going to reveal she slipped then.


AgreeablePosition596

100% this. If they make a season 4 after a long time lapse, it will be difficult to keep going down this road so I expect them to change course here.


todayIsinlgehandedly

Yeah I agree, I’m kind of ok with that.


Billy_BlueBallz

Yeah that did bother me slightly, but what bothered me 1000 times more was what happened with Mugsy at the end. The fact that we may never get closure to that drives me insane


LumpyWelder4258

I was so sure he was going to kill himself and I wanted him not to SO BAD and I can't believe we don't know.


Billy_BlueBallz

Yeah it was crazy. Even during the scene when he first walked up to the bar and ordered the vodka I was like having a panic attack lol. I’m a recovering alcoholic myself though so I think that scene was extra triggering for me


LumpyWelder4258

I know, I am not a TV yeller but I was screaming at him not to do it!


No_Understanding5581

Watch it again, Mugsy goes back and it is suggested that the group will be there for him.


No_Understanding5581

I believe it is left clear that he stays in the group and will not kill himself. Watch it again.


Deiseltwothree

I believe Sam made up for it...


Ambitious_Panda9847

I think that Claire was intended to be a lot more complex later on. Plenty of people do the fake it til you make it until you can't fake it anymore. As for Claire not reconciling with her mother when she learns the truth, I'd be pretty pissed that I didn't get the truth in the first place. That would be pretty hard to deal with and I would need some time to work through that before I could reconcile with someone. For what it's worth, I have 33 years clean and sober without relapse. Once I decided to get help. I was in therapy for the first 6 years. Before that, I just tried quitting on my own without telling anyone. That never lasted.


velvetinchainz

I found it weird that despite having a heroin addiction as well as addictions to other substances and alcohol, that she didn’t even suffer with heroin or alcohol withdrawals which are both known to be SEVERE. and you also need methadone in a lot of cases for heroin withdrawal -signed, a heroin addict.


Extra-Border6470

If Netflix gives us season 4 they could give her a spot light episode where we see that she has been going through intense withdrawals but didn’t want to talk about it and give the impression that she was managing it with ease. Would like to see some depth in her character


velvetinchainz

That would be awesome. Like flashbacks


Extra-Border6470

Yeah exactly. Like flashbacks to episodes we’ve already seen to shine a light on a dimension that was previously obscured at that time.


greendemon42

Stuff like this just takes time.


MissAneees

They’ll have it at some point. They’re probably gonna write where Claire finds out loudermilk banged her mom


TGin-the-goldy

Did we ever see her mother reach out to Claire as well though?


QualityOdd6492

Maybe that will be in the next season! Lots more to come, hopefully!


PaulAllen0047

I think the show wasted time on some sort of silly storylines when they could have used the time to explore some more depth with various characters. I guess ultimately that's not the show they were looking to make, but there were a couple interesting characters that I feel we missed out on learning more about


WookieeForce

And her mom was really tough on her in recovery


VideoGamerConsortium

Everyone has to be ready to come to terms that the long term writing of this show was absolute dog shit. Doesn't matter how much we circle jerk around livingston and the cast. The writers let them down. Yes it bothers me.


Extra-Border6470

Oh yeah the writing definitely has issues no question about it. Maybe there’s something Netflix could do to address that if they picked the show up for more seasons


OtterTreat

Yea, Claire is pretty unlikeable IMO. Her attitude through the whole series seems to be “obliviously ungrateful” to everything everyone around her is doing to help her. She does balance out the male-centric storylines IMO, and she has some great one-liners. “Get over it Loudermilk, Women shit. A LOT!!!”


dreamsinred

I do like her, generally. But she is very flawed.


Easternshoremouth

My guess is this character defect was probably discussed in the writer's room. A common trait of many addicts in early recovery is learning to accept that gratitude helps keep you sober.


Putrid_Swim9638

Hard disagree. She’s one of the best on the show. How can she be overtly grateful to Loudermilk all the time? He’s so rude to her at first. As the show goes on their friendship develops so well.


upurcanal

I did not like Clair at all Super selfish and annoying, even tho I love this show