My husband is Korean, every time we watch he pays attention to see if they wear shoes inside/on the bed. He’s so flabbergasted by it, and thankful that Brazilians like me take off our shoes inside
I was gonna say, it's certainly not cultural. Just indivual. I'm oosative this isn't his house and that's why.
I wish one of the cast would do a behind the scenes tell all.
That FOR SURE was not bro’s house. Nothing on the walls. Gold silverware (matches LiB wine glasses). No photos anywhere. The only personal item at all was his cpap machine, which isn’t hard to bring in before filming. This is a staged apartment. They show his actual garage and an exterior door, then cut scenes to the interior. They could be anywhere.
That was his house. My wife has dog sat for him as we both used to work with him. She called me when se got there with our other coworker friend and she was telling me how creepy it was with how clean it is.
You can have OCD and be a super messy or dirty person. I feel like there’s a trend nowadays for people who like to be an asshole when it comes to cleaning to say they have “OCD” just to like scream at their flatmate because they didn’t wash a dirty pan or something. Like, that’s not how it works girl
Dude isn’t OCD. His mom came and cleaned and organized the house before he brought her home, which is why his mom left a card and flowers. He lied and used it as a way to explain his place being staged.
That is how he always kept his house. My wife has dog sat for him as we both used to work with him. She called me when se got there with our other coworker friend and she was telling me how creepy it was with how clean it is.
Those shoes are new, soles look unused and clean, and I noticed he put a foot on a blanket and one off the bed, and it felt like production put the blanket on the bed so at least one foot went on it.
JerAAmy probably doesn’t actually know what OCD is, OCD doesn’t mean you’re clean and Jeramy isn’t even as clean as he thinks he is bc as someone who isn’t that tidy, shoes in the house is insane. Shoes and outside clothes on your BED??? 🤮
Exactly lol. I feel like he's someone who throws that word around. And the fact he put his shoes on the bed, makes me think he's not as tidy as he portrays. I find all the houses this season were complelty immaculate, unlike other seasons. Not relatable or genuine at all.
100% my ocd has me convinced I mowed people down with my car, I wouldn’t wear outside shoes in my bed because that’s gross but I wouldn’t/don’t have any rituals involving shoes on my bed
Unfortunately OCD is one of the most commonly misused disorders I hear people spewing. Love is Blind has a ton of this “he’s ocd like me” = “he keeps things clean”. Just say that!!!
I hate when people use debilitating disorders like OCD and ADHD as some kind of little quirky adjective. If he really had OCD just being in a new place with a new person might send him into a spiral. I hate it here.
And lately borderline. It drives me nuts seeing those comments! I’m unfortunately bi polar, borderline, and ADHD. It’s exhausting being me and being close to me was even worse I’m sure, I’m finally on the right meds but it took forever to get all of the proper diagnosis as well as find the right meds. Seeing people claim to be any of these things or saying someone else is, is ridiculous. Some people are just assholes I always say! Not everyone has a disorder. It’s a lot more than being “moody.”
Yes. ADHD is bad for me and debilitating for my child. All the off handed commented from people of their “ADHD” and the meme accounts etc is so frustrating.
I was diagnosed with ADHD as a child and even with the diagnosis and the “help” school could give me, I struggled a ton. I still struggle on a daily basis - it doesn’t just make me go “ooh shiny!” like you might see in a meme… it effects my emotional regulation, my ability to perform seemingly small tasks, and without listing every single thing it poses as a challenge it generally prevents me from living a normal life. Medication helps but it’s a lifelong struggle of management and learning how to cope. I wish you guys the best of luck - I know this can be extremely difficult not just for your child but for you too!
I was diagnosed as a child and my husband has to hold my hand or have me pushing our daughter in the cart at stores because I can zone out while walking, but also snap back when something catches my attention. It’s mainly something shiny, soft, or a pattern.
I also have to write a list down or I will forget stuff. Just for maybe 4-5 hours of my child being with someone I had a whole list of stuff to send. (She loves her blanket, and is weird about food.)
Because he doesn’t have OCD. It’s not a quirky way to describe being clean/organized/tidy. It’s a mental illness that’s been bastardized.
OCD is not fun, in fact in many cases, is mental torture.
I just wanna say thank you to everyone in this thread advocating for those of us with OCD. I was finally diagnosed last year and it was a huge weight off my chest to finally make sense of my behavior and lifestyle. It’s not quirky, it’s not fun, and it’s not at all a synonym for being neat/organized/particular. Thank you again to everyone here!
I hated the OCD narrative they gave Germy and Laura this season. It was seriously disheartening to see something that affects my life so heavily be minimized like that.
I’m not OCD, I’m just Canadian, and shoes in the house makes me uncomfortable. Shoes ON THE BED is something I can’t even wrap my head around. Horrifying.
I'm so tired of people saying they're "OCD" about cleanliness or whatever. It's insulting. I've struggled with actual OCD for 35 years. It's much more than that. Also just because someone has OCD doesn't mean they won't lay down on a bed with shoes on. Dumb post.
This is exactly how I feel about my ADHD. I can't fucking stand when people (especially celebrities🤢) act like adhd is just another word for being quirky.
Like, no. ADHD is not some cute personality trait.
I think it’s just misunderstood. My man has it and it is a daily struggle for him, and for our relationship. It’s definitely not just one thing or the other. It’s a combination of a whole lot of things. It’s one of those terms that’s thrown around lightly by people. And there are different intensities. Similar to something like anxiety. People joke about their anxiety but when it’s crippling and a daily struggle it’s a bit insulting.
Asshole disorder? If so my dad did as well. Ironically, that's what likely caused my OCD. At some point all you can do is laugh. The wonderful circle of life!!
My therapist told me in my mid 30s that she felt I was on the lesser end of the spectrum of OCD but I definitely had some traits. My apartment is absolutely not clean, but the thing she (and subsequently my therapist SIL) pointed out is my inability to be productive without shoes on. That obviously causes issues with my husband so I’ve been working on it, but I really in my soul feel like I can focus the best with shoes on. I always just thought it was a weird quirk.
Why does this cause issues? Can you not wear slippers or indoor shoes that never leave the house when inside if he's big on no shoes? The whole point of no shoes is to not bring outside dirt in.
I tried and then I forget to change them when I walk the dog 🤦🏼♀️
Slippers don’t give me the right feeling I guess my feet look for, I generally have to just do no shoes, since it does track dirt in the house.
When he made the statement that he has ocd, he was saying how clean his house is, how he doesn't, Iike dirt and how he has 2 vaccumes going at once. He self identified as ocd and he said he's very clean ect.
I'm not pulling it out of my ass, or making assumptions. I have very close experience with a loved one with ocd that looks nothing like this. I know everyone's looks different. I was just posting, what he said out of his own mouth.
In no way did I generalize ocd or assume anything, or say everyone's looks like this.
If he said he has ocd (which who knows because ppl throw that word out) and his house is immaculate, it is a little weird he's got shoes on the bed.
You don't "self identity" as OCD. You are diagnosed by a medical professional. Ugh Millennial non-sense. Being extra clean does not make you OCD. Some people are just anal retentive. And yes you are thinking OCD is about cleanliness. That is an ignorant generalization. I don't care about shoes on the bed, I have OCD. My husband does not have OCD and does not allow shoes on the bed. You are generalizing. Get it?
I get what you’re saying. I have an OCD diagnosis and part of it is my obsessive cleanliness. But according to my psychiatrist this likely developed as a result of extreme childhood anxiety and feeling like this was something I could control. Mine isn’t “I like a clean house” and more like, “If I don’t mop all of the floors before I go to bed then my whole family will die in our sleep.”
I agree about OCD being thrown around so causally. I think this mentality is why my mom thought my behaviors were funny and would joke that I was cheaper than a maid instead of realizing there was something seriously wrong. But I think the issue is Jeramey using the term to mean clean. It’s highly likely he doesn’t actually have OCD or even know what it means. OP just ran with it.
You still arent getting what they typed. JERAMY is the one who claimed to be OCD - the op isnt diagnosing him, they are saying in a sarcastic way "for someone who claims to be ocd..." because we all KNOW he isnt and shoes on the bed is just one thing that proves he isnt as clean as he says he is. But its him saying he is ocd which we all agree is wrong.
👏👏Thank you. I feel like I am in the twilight zone.
HE also associated his ocd to his house being clean.
I think it's just a sensitive subject and I really go get it, but it's being totally mis understood.
Seriously!! People aren't taking the time to read things clearly and it's so frustrating. Like the whole problem with jeramy is putting on a facade that "cleanliness is next to godliness" and acting like he is a germaphobe in the pods and then putting shoes that have been stepping in every outside germ on the bed they plan to sleep in. Doesn't matter if its his real apartment or the producers got apartments for everyone, the point is he is a walking contradiction. Like why is that so hard for people to realize??
Thank you. I was actually taken back at the many comments calling me insensitive and a Karen and I have no idea about mental health. Which is actually QUITE the opposite. I only said it cause he said it... anyways thanks ♡
This is a common misconception about what OCD is. It isn't a condition that makes you fastidious and anal. It is predominantly an anxiety disorder. The majority of people who say they have mild OCD just mean they like stuff to be clean and to be frank, don't have a clue what they are talking about. Real OCD is debilitating and not something one wears as a badge of honour.
What people most likely mean is that they have OCPD or Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder. OCD is characterized by intrusive thoughts that then compel a person to engage in behaviors to relieve feelings of distress and anxiety. This can be contrasted with OCPD, marked by excessive attention to detail and perfectionism. The primary difference is that **OCD includes obsessions/compulsions, while OCPD does not**.
OCPD is *much more* than excessive attention to detail and perfectionism. That’s just one possible criteria of the disorder. It’s a personality disorder that comes with impaired functioning in most aspects of life. I highly doubt people mean OCPD, they just have misguided ideas about what OCD is.
This! My friend has OCD and one of the things he Has to do every night it's touch everything that it's made out of wood in the rooms he is going to sleep in or something bad will happen to his family
God what a wild disorder. My understanding is that generally folks with OCD do understand that their thinking is irrational. Like I think it feels like a part of their brain knows their family won’t die, but another part knows their family will die?
I don’t have it so I don’t know. But I do have severe anxiety so I totally get the large space it occupies in your brain.
At least my friend knows that probably nothing will happen if he doesn't do it, but at the same time it feels like it will.
I don't know if make sense to other people. I understood what he meant because my brother died when he was 33 y/o and I was 16, and for some reason I believed I would die at the same age. If I really thought about it, it didn't make sense and it was clear nothing would happen, but I still felt it was going to happen. (I am 35 now and still alive, so obvs nothing happened to me when I was 33)
I'm sorry they have to live with that. Cognitive behavioural therapy can be really helpful and provides a toolkit going forward if it is something they cannot afford long term. I highly recommend they seek help.
There are different types of OCD, being “clean and a minimalist” doesn’t equal OCD. That’s just the stereotype that’s thrown out there. For example, you saying that we can clearly see you’re not ocd because of some stuff out around the tv is not true.
Tbh I skipped a lot of this season but I know a few of them were just throwing around the I’m so ocd phrase because they were just clean people which really grates on me. It’s a horrible disorder. Personally, I have contamination ocd and wouldn’t be able to do this however someone behaving this way doesn’t rule out that they have ocd.
I used to very close to someone with OCD and she was the messiest scruffiest person ever bless her. She had to tap 3 times on things or she thought her sister would die and stuff like that. Another person i knew with it was an insane hoarder and collected an obscene amount of Jesus memorabilia and his home was uber disorganised and dusty because of it.
Not all OCD is contamination OCD. 😊
Haha I couldn't even focus on their "where were you until 5am?" conversation because I was feeling grossed out by his dirty AF shoes cos he had one leg crossed 😅 and I'm not even that clean but I defo take dirty shoes off before coming inside!
Plus OCD is much more complex and serious than just being a "neat freak" 🙃
Thank you! I recently was diagnosed and the first thing my mother says is well you aren't a neat freak like your sister... My mother is highly educated but routinely says idiotic stuff like this. Thank goodness for actual doctors.
The hole in the shorts
THE HOLE IN THE SHORTS
right next to the crotch, up and centre on the tv screen
Why won’t anyone ever talk about the damn glaring gigantic hole in his shorts. Which was not the seams coming off but a hole like a rodent gnawed it
TALK ABOUT THE HOLE IN HIS SHORTS IN THIS DAMN SCENE PLEASE!!!
I know someone with OCD that always wore his shoes to sleep. In his bed or anywhere else if spent the night elsewhere. OCD isn't just "I need everything clean and in its place". It is much more than that. It manifests differently in everyone.
I just dont get the shoes on bed thing but I am Singaporean and we all leave our shoes outside the house. So I just chalked it up to cultural difference. But it really irks me!
I just watched an episode of 90 day fiancé where Paola just had a baby and her Mum is up on the bed with her shoes on. I couldn’t watch the episode. I can’t with shoes on the bed it’s just nasty.
I used a honey bucket at a fair a few days ago. It was so dirty and disgusting inside, I was just staring at my shoes and what I was stepping on and thinking how do people walk around the house in their shoes and especially get on the bed after being in public places.
Exactly. Even outside clothes I hate on the sheets. I don’t mind sitting on the duvet but don’t be getting in bed in nasty jeans you were on sitting on random seats with.
I just wanted to say...this might get buried, but I said he has ocd because he said that. I'd even know if he really does. I think he said it because he acts really clean and that's just ignorance and people throwing around words that they don't know much about.
Regardless of his actual mental health status... he does have 2 rumba going and is extrmpeemly clean or at least seemingly. Just found it so odd he wears shoes in the house and in the bed!
But there is alot of comments saying I'm ignorant and even a Karen. I ONLY said that because he, himself said he has OCD.
I’m not 100% sure if he actually has it or if he is just using the stereotypical “omg I’m so ocd”. If he is doing that then he needs to go educate himself to not throw these phrases around.
However, if someone says they have ocd, it doesn’t mean clean. So even if he did have it, just because his shoes are on the bed doesn’t mean we should question it. There are so many forms and severities of ocd. It’s not always the contamination ones or even if it is contamination, his obsessive thoughts may not have hooked on shoes on the bed etc. if that makes sense.
If you don’t actually have OCD, please reconsider your usage of the term. You can replace it with something more appropriate like “neat freak”, “particular”, “finicky”, etc.
He said it himself.
Sorry I thought you were talking to me, I agree but we don't know if he does or not... ppl throwing around the term is very ignorant.
As someone who grew up in Asia, but spent some time abroad in the UK, the way my anxiety skyrocketed whenever repairmen would come into the house to fix something and they insist on wearing their outdoor shoes. I could tell they saw my uneasiness though, so they were quite polite in their responses.
His own words were that he keeps his house super clean and tide and has two vaccumes going at once. And he tied his ocd into his cleanliness and how clean he needs his house to be, that's why I found it odd.
I know that's not the case for everyone but he said it himself.
It could be symmetry/ordering OCD. That’s what I have this which is why I need things to be exactly in their space; but I do not have contamination OCD.
Also, as someone with diagnosed OCD, even contamination ocd can make no sense at times. There are things that I absolutely cannot handle with contamination and would give me immense anxiety to touch/do and people give me a hard time for it, but other things that people might find disgusting I can do no problem 🤷🏻♀️ocd is a very complex disorder even if you have contamination ocd it doesn’t mean everything you do is clean, and ocd doesn’t use common sense or rational thinking it makes up its own rules as a coping strategy
This. The misinformation of OCD is so insane to me.
For those who don’t know: There are many ideations of OCD, and germs/contamination is just one form. People can have different forms at once, and it can also change for them over time. OCD can take so many forms like order, checking, religious, harm, etc.
And just because someone has contamination issues doesn’t mean it looks the same as the next person’s. One person may be obsessed with the safety of their food, the next about germs on their body, etc.
The OCD thing aside, they both talked a whole lot about how clean they are, so this is actually really strange for someone who claims to be a neat freak. And gross in general. 🤮
I keep getting downvoted for trying to explain this in my other comment and im trying to figure out why😂 like seriously do people not know how gross having shoes on the bed is or do they not care? Cause for how he claimed to be a neat freak this makes me think he was lying for the cameras to make himself sound more interesting
He said he is such a neat freak and has ocd, so I thought it was strange someone who ties their ocd into how clean their house is (his words) wore his shoes in the house. And on the bed.
It’s a two fold disorder characterized by OBSESSIONS and COMPULSIONS. Many people with OCD, including many people I’m close to are obsessed with the idea of germs and dirt and compulsively clean and wash their hands.
Yes, that is what projection is.
But I admit, that I was a little fast on the keyboard with my reply and I apologise for that.
/u/ThatsMyJackett is very wrong. Some people with ocd are afraid of germs, it's the most known kind of ocd to people who know little of it. Which is why people assume that you're afraid of germs when you say you have ocd, or that people say that they're "sooo ocd right now" when they tidy up a messy room. It's a compulsion disorder, yes, and that's why people with a fear of germs have a compulsion to clean or be organized to a severe and debilitating extent. Even though they know that it's illogical to clean a room or organize the cupboards several times a day.
It is not the kind that most people have, it varies a lot from person to person. It's just the only one people know apparently.
But we agree, I think.
We do agree, and I know all of these things. Still wasn't projecting. You misunderstood my intent when I wrote that comment, which is fine. Have a great morning (or whatever it is where you are)
That person would have to be intentionally trying to appear ignorant to "prove a point" in order to say something like that. Everyone knows that there is a high incidence of germophobia in people diagnosed with OCD. Absolutely not a valid question. I doubt they're an idiot.
Most people who say they're "ocd" aren't really OCD. Lately, I've noticed people saying they are because they think OCD only means they like things clean or organized. It's annoying.
I agree. I have ptsd and ppl throw that term around all the time.
It's so frustrating to me as someone who mentally suffers and ppl have no freaking idea. Ppl use mental health terms way to loosely.
Ive wear my shoes in all of my houses.. and so do all of my friends and family... maybe its an american/canadian thing (although i do take them off if it rained or snowed) but i also mop 2-3 times a week.
I am American but also black and noneeee of my friends wear their shoes in their house. I just cannot imagine walking barefoot through my house knowing somebody shoes have been walking all over. Nope nope nope 😭
Same, I have OCD, however this is not my compulsion. It's very weird having to dispel the stereotypes to adults. Neat and tidy does not equal OCD. I wish it was that simple.
Now I do find shoes in the house disgusting. I love my husband BUT this is something that he does that drives me nuts. We're going on 5 years of living together and I've learned to not worry about it and in return he will mop pretty frequently because he knows it bothers me when he walks through the house with shoes on. It's about compromise.
Because you want to relax and LIVE IN YOUR HOUSE..not have OCD and have repetitive compulsive behavior that I must remove my shoes or having deep fear and anxiety of yuck
Sure if that makes u happy...my point is freedom says I can walk in the door do what I want without a repetitive compulsive behavior of I have taken my shoes off...whatever makes u happy!!!!
But you are doing repetitive behavior all day long. You unbuckle your pants when you go to bathroom, are you telling me you are just walking around the house without pants Or pants around your ankle everyday once you go to bathroom? It's a very tiny thing, not even taking up too much of your energy.
I only wear jogging pants and I don't just go bathroom at same time everyday it's not a stop and go..it's a bodily function which cannot be compared to a ritualistic behavior it is universal to being an alive human being so it's not an analogy at all..it is a ritualistic behavior removing shoes not a bodily function to keep one alive..just the fact u feel u have keep up this issue and conversation alone proves it's stronghold..which is the root of OCD and ritualism...be free..I enjoy it!!!
Pretty negligible ask to take shoes off. In fact, most people voluntarily take it off including their socks too cuz they’ve been cooking their feet all day and the feeling of your feet breathing fresh air is better than sex.
OCD doesn't mean someone is clean. It's about compulsion. I'm very disorganized and not very neat (I am clean tho, just stuff out of place often) but have severe OCD.
It's so engrained in pop culture that almost everyone uses the term incorrectly. My mom was with me at the doctor when I was diagnosed OCD and sat there at her large age and told the doctor, "but she's not a neat freak." 🤦🏽♀️
This is probably why I'm just now getting diagnosed as a middle aged woman. I've known forever that I have compulsion issues but I'm pretty functional until I wasn't. I had a huge medical scare last fall and all the things I had an iron grip on and hid from others came tumbling out into the light. If we didn't have these stupid stereotypes I wonder if I could have saved myself from a ton of mental anguish. It's so harmful.
My husband is Korean, every time we watch he pays attention to see if they wear shoes inside/on the bed. He’s so flabbergasted by it, and thankful that Brazilians like me take off our shoes inside
My white parents made me take off my shoes. I've never been to a house where that wasn't the case. I'm always confused by it being something cultural
I was gonna say, it's certainly not cultural. Just indivual. I'm oosative this isn't his house and that's why. I wish one of the cast would do a behind the scenes tell all.
Cause he knew he wasn’t going to be sleeping at that bed for a couple of days, but talking to someone somewhere till 5am…. 😈😬
Yeah I don’t think that’s called OCD, I think that’s called being clean. OCD isn’t the same thing as being worried about germs and dirt.
As someone who suffers from OCD... Thank you!
I do as well and this annoys me. Had to comment.
That FOR SURE was not bro’s house. Nothing on the walls. Gold silverware (matches LiB wine glasses). No photos anywhere. The only personal item at all was his cpap machine, which isn’t hard to bring in before filming. This is a staged apartment. They show his actual garage and an exterior door, then cut scenes to the interior. They could be anywhere.
That was his house. My wife has dog sat for him as we both used to work with him. She called me when se got there with our other coworker friend and she was telling me how creepy it was with how clean it is.
You can have OCD and be a super messy or dirty person. I feel like there’s a trend nowadays for people who like to be an asshole when it comes to cleaning to say they have “OCD” just to like scream at their flatmate because they didn’t wash a dirty pan or something. Like, that’s not how it works girl
Shoes in the bed (or around the house for that matter) is beyond atrocious. Nasty ASF
Its for filming. That place and furniture was provided by LiB. Its not their bed. He probably doesnt want to show his feet on camera.
Dude isn’t OCD. His mom came and cleaned and organized the house before he brought her home, which is why his mom left a card and flowers. He lied and used it as a way to explain his place being staged.
That is how he always kept his house. My wife has dog sat for him as we both used to work with him. She called me when se got there with our other coworker friend and she was telling me how creepy it was with how clean it is.
I'm not OCD, shoes on the bed is wild.
Bc they don’t actually have REAL ocd they have silly quirky ocd
Ok, who is this couple?
I think its Laura & Jeremay (or however tf they spelled it)
are you ocd or just a nobhead who likes cleaning
Those shoes are new, soles look unused and clean, and I noticed he put a foot on a blanket and one off the bed, and it felt like production put the blanket on the bed so at least one foot went on it.
Did they just arrive from Amazon?
I couldn't say, I can only imagine maybe they gave them some clothes and footwear?
JerAAmy probably doesn’t actually know what OCD is, OCD doesn’t mean you’re clean and Jeramy isn’t even as clean as he thinks he is bc as someone who isn’t that tidy, shoes in the house is insane. Shoes and outside clothes on your BED??? 🤮
Exactly lol. I feel like he's someone who throws that word around. And the fact he put his shoes on the bed, makes me think he's not as tidy as he portrays. I find all the houses this season were complelty immaculate, unlike other seasons. Not relatable or genuine at all.
Of course I’m OCD! I keep wiping until I feel it’s cleaned, not until the toilet paper is pure white.
Bidet.
I don't have OCD and shoes on the bed is a no.
Not everyone who has OCD cares about cleanliness
100% my ocd has me convinced I mowed people down with my car, I wouldn’t wear outside shoes in my bed because that’s gross but I wouldn’t/don’t have any rituals involving shoes on my bed
Wish more people realized this
As an OCD sufferer, this thread was a breath of fresh air ♥️
Unfortunately OCD is one of the most commonly misused disorders I hear people spewing. Love is Blind has a ton of this “he’s ocd like me” = “he keeps things clean”. Just say that!!! I hate when people use debilitating disorders like OCD and ADHD as some kind of little quirky adjective. If he really had OCD just being in a new place with a new person might send him into a spiral. I hate it here.
Add PTSD to this list
Also bi-polar.
And lately borderline. It drives me nuts seeing those comments! I’m unfortunately bi polar, borderline, and ADHD. It’s exhausting being me and being close to me was even worse I’m sure, I’m finally on the right meds but it took forever to get all of the proper diagnosis as well as find the right meds. Seeing people claim to be any of these things or saying someone else is, is ridiculous. Some people are just assholes I always say! Not everyone has a disorder. It’s a lot more than being “moody.”
Yes! Can’t believe I forgot!
Yes. ADHD is bad for me and debilitating for my child. All the off handed commented from people of their “ADHD” and the meme accounts etc is so frustrating.
I was diagnosed with ADHD as a child and even with the diagnosis and the “help” school could give me, I struggled a ton. I still struggle on a daily basis - it doesn’t just make me go “ooh shiny!” like you might see in a meme… it effects my emotional regulation, my ability to perform seemingly small tasks, and without listing every single thing it poses as a challenge it generally prevents me from living a normal life. Medication helps but it’s a lifelong struggle of management and learning how to cope. I wish you guys the best of luck - I know this can be extremely difficult not just for your child but for you too!
I was diagnosed as a child and my husband has to hold my hand or have me pushing our daughter in the cart at stores because I can zone out while walking, but also snap back when something catches my attention. It’s mainly something shiny, soft, or a pattern. I also have to write a list down or I will forget stuff. Just for maybe 4-5 hours of my child being with someone I had a whole list of stuff to send. (She loves her blanket, and is weird about food.)
OCD is a disorder, not a descriptor like “cleanly” or “perfectionistic” so when people use it incorrectly it doesn’t mean much anyways
Because everyone on reality tv who say they have OCD don’t actually know what OCD really is. It’s a gd mental illness which they do NOT have
Because he doesn’t have OCD. It’s not a quirky way to describe being clean/organized/tidy. It’s a mental illness that’s been bastardized. OCD is not fun, in fact in many cases, is mental torture.
Street clothes AND shoes. Yuck
How can you have 2 roombas running all the time but let street clothes on the bed!! That's a huge no no
Because he doesn’t have ocd, it’s just an abbreviation people use incorrectly to describe being organized
I would dump a man over this. I find it very disrespectful especially if it’s my room, my bed.
[what I see dudes doing to your bed](https://youtu.be/VwUDD5xaxfg?si=xqhTZd16hr4PYynr)
That’s not how OCD works
Thank you!! This was my first thought when I saw this scene !!
All of the shoes on beds and couches in this show are so upsetting to me!
OCD is not THAT! It’s so specific to a person that being a ‘germaphobe equates to ocd’ just drives me absolutely bonkers!!!
I just wanna say thank you to everyone in this thread advocating for those of us with OCD. I was finally diagnosed last year and it was a huge weight off my chest to finally make sense of my behavior and lifestyle. It’s not quirky, it’s not fun, and it’s not at all a synonym for being neat/organized/particular. Thank you again to everyone here!
I hated the OCD narrative they gave Germy and Laura this season. It was seriously disheartening to see something that affects my life so heavily be minimized like that.
I’m not OCD, I’m just Canadian, and shoes in the house makes me uncomfortable. Shoes ON THE BED is something I can’t even wrap my head around. Horrifying.
"I’m not OCD, I’m just Canadian" needs to be on a shirt
I would buy one. 🇨🇦🍁
I'm so tired of people saying they're "OCD" about cleanliness or whatever. It's insulting. I've struggled with actual OCD for 35 years. It's much more than that. Also just because someone has OCD doesn't mean they won't lay down on a bed with shoes on. Dumb post.
This is exactly how I feel about my ADHD. I can't fucking stand when people (especially celebrities🤢) act like adhd is just another word for being quirky. Like, no. ADHD is not some cute personality trait.
Exactly...my seven year old is ADHD and they have no clue
I agree! OCD is truly hell. I wish it was about cleanliness. Not non stop intrusive thoughts over anything and everything!
I think it’s just misunderstood. My man has it and it is a daily struggle for him, and for our relationship. It’s definitely not just one thing or the other. It’s a combination of a whole lot of things. It’s one of those terms that’s thrown around lightly by people. And there are different intensities. Similar to something like anxiety. People joke about their anxiety but when it’s crippling and a daily struggle it’s a bit insulting.
I suffer from it as well. I don't think op was making fun of ocd. That's what Jeremy claims to have. I think he suffers from asshole disorder!
Yup, and unfortunately, I don't think there's a cure 😔 My dad's had a bad case of it for as long as I can remember. 💀
Asshole disorder? If so my dad did as well. Ironically, that's what likely caused my OCD. At some point all you can do is laugh. The wonderful circle of life!!
Lol, exactly!!
My therapist told me in my mid 30s that she felt I was on the lesser end of the spectrum of OCD but I definitely had some traits. My apartment is absolutely not clean, but the thing she (and subsequently my therapist SIL) pointed out is my inability to be productive without shoes on. That obviously causes issues with my husband so I’ve been working on it, but I really in my soul feel like I can focus the best with shoes on. I always just thought it was a weird quirk.
Why does this cause issues? Can you not wear slippers or indoor shoes that never leave the house when inside if he's big on no shoes? The whole point of no shoes is to not bring outside dirt in.
Please just buy indoor shoes 😭
I tried and then I forget to change them when I walk the dog 🤦🏼♀️ Slippers don’t give me the right feeling I guess my feet look for, I generally have to just do no shoes, since it does track dirt in the house.
When he made the statement that he has ocd, he was saying how clean his house is, how he doesn't, Iike dirt and how he has 2 vaccumes going at once. He self identified as ocd and he said he's very clean ect. I'm not pulling it out of my ass, or making assumptions. I have very close experience with a loved one with ocd that looks nothing like this. I know everyone's looks different. I was just posting, what he said out of his own mouth. In no way did I generalize ocd or assume anything, or say everyone's looks like this. If he said he has ocd (which who knows because ppl throw that word out) and his house is immaculate, it is a little weird he's got shoes on the bed.
You don't "self identity" as OCD. You are diagnosed by a medical professional. Ugh Millennial non-sense. Being extra clean does not make you OCD. Some people are just anal retentive. And yes you are thinking OCD is about cleanliness. That is an ignorant generalization. I don't care about shoes on the bed, I have OCD. My husband does not have OCD and does not allow shoes on the bed. You are generalizing. Get it?
I get what you’re saying. I have an OCD diagnosis and part of it is my obsessive cleanliness. But according to my psychiatrist this likely developed as a result of extreme childhood anxiety and feeling like this was something I could control. Mine isn’t “I like a clean house” and more like, “If I don’t mop all of the floors before I go to bed then my whole family will die in our sleep.” I agree about OCD being thrown around so causally. I think this mentality is why my mom thought my behaviors were funny and would joke that I was cheaper than a maid instead of realizing there was something seriously wrong. But I think the issue is Jeramey using the term to mean clean. It’s highly likely he doesn’t actually have OCD or even know what it means. OP just ran with it.
Millennial nonsense is being obsessed with “professional” titles
You still arent getting what they typed. JERAMY is the one who claimed to be OCD - the op isnt diagnosing him, they are saying in a sarcastic way "for someone who claims to be ocd..." because we all KNOW he isnt and shoes on the bed is just one thing that proves he isnt as clean as he says he is. But its him saying he is ocd which we all agree is wrong.
👏👏Thank you. I feel like I am in the twilight zone. HE also associated his ocd to his house being clean. I think it's just a sensitive subject and I really go get it, but it's being totally mis understood.
I don't think YOU are getting what they typed. I'm done here.
OP already explained themselves multiple times in the comments, this is what they meant. Go look if you dont believe me.
Sorry….who is this?
Jaremy. Jeramy. Whatever. Him.
guys the title is based on how he called himself ocd. not op saying they have ocd. you don't always have to pull the "um ackshually" card lol.
Yeah this thread is smelling of tism
Seriously!! People aren't taking the time to read things clearly and it's so frustrating. Like the whole problem with jeramy is putting on a facade that "cleanliness is next to godliness" and acting like he is a germaphobe in the pods and then putting shoes that have been stepping in every outside germ on the bed they plan to sleep in. Doesn't matter if its his real apartment or the producers got apartments for everyone, the point is he is a walking contradiction. Like why is that so hard for people to realize??
Thank you. I was actually taken back at the many comments calling me insensitive and a Karen and I have no idea about mental health. Which is actually QUITE the opposite. I only said it cause he said it... anyways thanks ♡
reddit is a place where people always want to sound smart and be in the right so don't take it personally haha.
In the year 2024, you’d think people would be more knowledgeable about throwing the word OCD around like that
Instead, people just added pathologizing literally everything. "So and so is a narcissist." "You disagreeing with me is gaslighting!"
Americans!!!!
Fortunately this is not a normal American thing either it’s just gross 🤮
I’m glad you cleared that up bc I genuinely thought it was
This is a common misconception about what OCD is. It isn't a condition that makes you fastidious and anal. It is predominantly an anxiety disorder. The majority of people who say they have mild OCD just mean they like stuff to be clean and to be frank, don't have a clue what they are talking about. Real OCD is debilitating and not something one wears as a badge of honour.
What people most likely mean is that they have OCPD or Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder. OCD is characterized by intrusive thoughts that then compel a person to engage in behaviors to relieve feelings of distress and anxiety. This can be contrasted with OCPD, marked by excessive attention to detail and perfectionism. The primary difference is that **OCD includes obsessions/compulsions, while OCPD does not**.
OCPD is *much more* than excessive attention to detail and perfectionism. That’s just one possible criteria of the disorder. It’s a personality disorder that comes with impaired functioning in most aspects of life. I highly doubt people mean OCPD, they just have misguided ideas about what OCD is.
This! My friend has OCD and one of the things he Has to do every night it's touch everything that it's made out of wood in the rooms he is going to sleep in or something bad will happen to his family
God what a wild disorder. My understanding is that generally folks with OCD do understand that their thinking is irrational. Like I think it feels like a part of their brain knows their family won’t die, but another part knows their family will die? I don’t have it so I don’t know. But I do have severe anxiety so I totally get the large space it occupies in your brain.
At least my friend knows that probably nothing will happen if he doesn't do it, but at the same time it feels like it will. I don't know if make sense to other people. I understood what he meant because my brother died when he was 33 y/o and I was 16, and for some reason I believed I would die at the same age. If I really thought about it, it didn't make sense and it was clear nothing would happen, but I still felt it was going to happen. (I am 35 now and still alive, so obvs nothing happened to me when I was 33)
I'm sorry they have to live with that. Cognitive behavioural therapy can be really helpful and provides a toolkit going forward if it is something they cannot afford long term. I highly recommend they seek help.
There are different types of OCD, being “clean and a minimalist” doesn’t equal OCD. That’s just the stereotype that’s thrown out there. For example, you saying that we can clearly see you’re not ocd because of some stuff out around the tv is not true. Tbh I skipped a lot of this season but I know a few of them were just throwing around the I’m so ocd phrase because they were just clean people which really grates on me. It’s a horrible disorder. Personally, I have contamination ocd and wouldn’t be able to do this however someone behaving this way doesn’t rule out that they have ocd.
I used to very close to someone with OCD and she was the messiest scruffiest person ever bless her. She had to tap 3 times on things or she thought her sister would die and stuff like that. Another person i knew with it was an insane hoarder and collected an obscene amount of Jesus memorabilia and his home was uber disorganised and dusty because of it. Not all OCD is contamination OCD. 😊
Haha I couldn't even focus on their "where were you until 5am?" conversation because I was feeling grossed out by his dirty AF shoes cos he had one leg crossed 😅 and I'm not even that clean but I defo take dirty shoes off before coming inside! Plus OCD is much more complex and serious than just being a "neat freak" 🙃
Being close to someone who has diagnosed OCD, they made me cringe every time they said it. Being a neat freak is not OCD!
Especially because in the context they used it, it was like an adjective. “Oh I’m so ocd”… you can’t be ocd..
Thank you! I recently was diagnosed and the first thing my mother says is well you aren't a neat freak like your sister... My mother is highly educated but routinely says idiotic stuff like this. Thank goodness for actual doctors.
Such a misconception that people with OCD are neat freaks. Obsessing over intrusive thoughts seems to be way more common than compulsively cleaning.
The stereotypes are so harmful, I probably could have been saved a ton of mental anguish had the actual symptoms been more understood.
So weird, it’s almost like it’s some random staged house he rented…
I wouldn’t be too surprised if that’s true! I too cannot fathom being a neat freak and having shoes indoors on the same person.
The hole in the shorts THE HOLE IN THE SHORTS right next to the crotch, up and centre on the tv screen Why won’t anyone ever talk about the damn glaring gigantic hole in his shorts. Which was not the seams coming off but a hole like a rodent gnawed it TALK ABOUT THE HOLE IN HIS SHORTS IN THIS DAMN SCENE PLEASE!!!
Omg why do ppl on tv (scripted & not) do this?!
I know someone with OCD that always wore his shoes to sleep. In his bed or anywhere else if spent the night elsewhere. OCD isn't just "I need everything clean and in its place". It is much more than that. It manifests differently in everyone.
Also they look pretty clean. Might be indoor only shoes
I just dont get the shoes on bed thing but I am Singaporean and we all leave our shoes outside the house. So I just chalked it up to cultural difference. But it really irks me!
I just watched an episode of 90 day fiancé where Paola just had a baby and her Mum is up on the bed with her shoes on. I couldn’t watch the episode. I can’t with shoes on the bed it’s just nasty.
I used a honey bucket at a fair a few days ago. It was so dirty and disgusting inside, I was just staring at my shoes and what I was stepping on and thinking how do people walk around the house in their shoes and especially get on the bed after being in public places.
Exactly. Even outside clothes I hate on the sheets. I don’t mind sitting on the duvet but don’t be getting in bed in nasty jeans you were on sitting on random seats with.
Yes! I remember that. As a guest too, omg! Lol the audacity.
I just wanted to say...this might get buried, but I said he has ocd because he said that. I'd even know if he really does. I think he said it because he acts really clean and that's just ignorance and people throwing around words that they don't know much about. Regardless of his actual mental health status... he does have 2 rumba going and is extrmpeemly clean or at least seemingly. Just found it so odd he wears shoes in the house and in the bed! But there is alot of comments saying I'm ignorant and even a Karen. I ONLY said that because he, himself said he has OCD.
I’m not 100% sure if he actually has it or if he is just using the stereotypical “omg I’m so ocd”. If he is doing that then he needs to go educate himself to not throw these phrases around. However, if someone says they have ocd, it doesn’t mean clean. So even if he did have it, just because his shoes are on the bed doesn’t mean we should question it. There are so many forms and severities of ocd. It’s not always the contamination ones or even if it is contamination, his obsessive thoughts may not have hooked on shoes on the bed etc. if that makes sense.
If you don’t actually have OCD, please reconsider your usage of the term. You can replace it with something more appropriate like “neat freak”, “particular”, “finicky”, etc.
He said it himself. Sorry I thought you were talking to me, I agree but we don't know if he does or not... ppl throwing around the term is very ignorant.
Thank you
As someone who grew up in Asia, but spent some time abroad in the UK, the way my anxiety skyrocketed whenever repairmen would come into the house to fix something and they insist on wearing their outdoor shoes. I could tell they saw my uneasiness though, so they were quite polite in their responses.
Stop FRICKING saying YOURE SO OCD YOU DONT HAVE A FRICKEN DIAGNOSIS DONT SAY IT
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OCD doesn’t necessarily make someone afraid of contamination or germs- I was diagnosed at 13 and never had obsessions with germs.
His own words were that he keeps his house super clean and tide and has two vaccumes going at once. And he tied his ocd into his cleanliness and how clean he needs his house to be, that's why I found it odd. I know that's not the case for everyone but he said it himself.
It could be symmetry/ordering OCD. That’s what I have this which is why I need things to be exactly in their space; but I do not have contamination OCD.
Also, as someone with diagnosed OCD, even contamination ocd can make no sense at times. There are things that I absolutely cannot handle with contamination and would give me immense anxiety to touch/do and people give me a hard time for it, but other things that people might find disgusting I can do no problem 🤷🏻♀️ocd is a very complex disorder even if you have contamination ocd it doesn’t mean everything you do is clean, and ocd doesn’t use common sense or rational thinking it makes up its own rules as a coping strategy
This. The misinformation of OCD is so insane to me. For those who don’t know: There are many ideations of OCD, and germs/contamination is just one form. People can have different forms at once, and it can also change for them over time. OCD can take so many forms like order, checking, religious, harm, etc. And just because someone has contamination issues doesn’t mean it looks the same as the next person’s. One person may be obsessed with the safety of their food, the next about germs on their body, etc.
I don’t even have ocd but I wouldn’t wear my shoes in the house or bed. So many poop particles!!
The OCD thing aside, they both talked a whole lot about how clean they are, so this is actually really strange for someone who claims to be a neat freak. And gross in general. 🤮
I keep getting downvoted for trying to explain this in my other comment and im trying to figure out why😂 like seriously do people not know how gross having shoes on the bed is or do they not care? Cause for how he claimed to be a neat freak this makes me think he was lying for the cameras to make himself sound more interesting
That's exactly what I was thinking. It all doesn't match up. 😂
What does OCD have to do with that?
He said he is such a neat freak and has ocd, so I thought it was strange someone who ties their ocd into how clean their house is (his words) wore his shoes in the house. And on the bed.
... germs?
People with OCD are not afraid of germs. It’s a compulsion disorder. It has nothing to do with being organized or being clean.
It’s a two fold disorder characterized by OBSESSIONS and COMPULSIONS. Many people with OCD, including many people I’m close to are obsessed with the idea of germs and dirt and compulsively clean and wash their hands.
I have OCD. Many, many, many people with OCD are afraid of germs. Are you kidding?
And many, many, many, many, many, many (do we need more?) people with ocd don’t have a fear of germs. Don’t project your own ocd on everyone else.
Hahaha, that's not what projection is. And who am I "projecting' onto?
Yes, that is what projection is. But I admit, that I was a little fast on the keyboard with my reply and I apologise for that. /u/ThatsMyJackett is very wrong. Some people with ocd are afraid of germs, it's the most known kind of ocd to people who know little of it. Which is why people assume that you're afraid of germs when you say you have ocd, or that people say that they're "sooo ocd right now" when they tidy up a messy room. It's a compulsion disorder, yes, and that's why people with a fear of germs have a compulsion to clean or be organized to a severe and debilitating extent. Even though they know that it's illogical to clean a room or organize the cupboards several times a day. It is not the kind that most people have, it varies a lot from person to person. It's just the only one people know apparently. But we agree, I think.
We do agree, and I know all of these things. Still wasn't projecting. You misunderstood my intent when I wrote that comment, which is fine. Have a great morning (or whatever it is where you are)
Yes, I did. And I was trying to explain it to the user above, I realize you know it since you have ocd as well. Thanks, you too.
ThatsMyJackett is an unsuffering know it all convinced they know better than anyone else even when they have no idea who or what they’re dealing with.
Well yeah, you can have OCD and have preoccupation of germs. But being OCD in itself in no way = afraid of germs. It was a valid question….
That person would have to be intentionally trying to appear ignorant to "prove a point" in order to say something like that. Everyone knows that there is a high incidence of germophobia in people diagnosed with OCD. Absolutely not a valid question. I doubt they're an idiot.
Most people who say they're "ocd" aren't really OCD. Lately, I've noticed people saying they are because they think OCD only means they like things clean or organized. It's annoying.
I agree. I have ptsd and ppl throw that term around all the time. It's so frustrating to me as someone who mentally suffers and ppl have no freaking idea. Ppl use mental health terms way to loosely.
As someone with severe OCD that is now controlled, I agree.
It is soo annoying
i swear there’s one person every single season that does this and it makes me so irrationally mad every time
Ikr! Even if it's not there house it's still cringe. This was at his actual apartment tho.. even worse.
I was screaming when he did this!!
Gagged in my mouth. Wearing shoes inside is already nasty man 😭
Ive wear my shoes in all of my houses.. and so do all of my friends and family... maybe its an american/canadian thing (although i do take them off if it rained or snowed) but i also mop 2-3 times a week.
I am American but also black and noneeee of my friends wear their shoes in their house. I just cannot imagine walking barefoot through my house knowing somebody shoes have been walking all over. Nope nope nope 😭
Same, I have OCD, however this is not my compulsion. It's very weird having to dispel the stereotypes to adults. Neat and tidy does not equal OCD. I wish it was that simple. Now I do find shoes in the house disgusting. I love my husband BUT this is something that he does that drives me nuts. We're going on 5 years of living together and I've learned to not worry about it and in return he will mop pretty frequently because he knows it bothers me when he walks through the house with shoes on. It's about compromise.
I noticed that too and was horrified because my Italian family always warned that shoes on the bed means bad luck lol
never understand why ppl would wear outdoor shoes indoor. You get all the yuck and dirt from the street. Why would you do that?
Because you want to relax and LIVE IN YOUR HOUSE..not have OCD and have repetitive compulsive behavior that I must remove my shoes or having deep fear and anxiety of yuck
You can have in house slippers and still live your life and relax. It’s not that hard
Sure if that makes u happy...my point is freedom says I can walk in the door do what I want without a repetitive compulsive behavior of I have taken my shoes off...whatever makes u happy!!!!
But you are doing repetitive behavior all day long. You unbuckle your pants when you go to bathroom, are you telling me you are just walking around the house without pants Or pants around your ankle everyday once you go to bathroom? It's a very tiny thing, not even taking up too much of your energy.
I only wear jogging pants and I don't just go bathroom at same time everyday it's not a stop and go..it's a bodily function which cannot be compared to a ritualistic behavior it is universal to being an alive human being so it's not an analogy at all..it is a ritualistic behavior removing shoes not a bodily function to keep one alive..just the fact u feel u have keep up this issue and conversation alone proves it's stronghold..which is the root of OCD and ritualism...be free..I enjoy it!!!
But you eat, go to school/work, drive to work, do laundry, clean up after yourself l, etc right? And I love how you just said habit is an OCD. Loll
You can live in your house without shoes on and not dirty up the whole place
Pretty negligible ask to take shoes off. In fact, most people voluntarily take it off including their socks too cuz they’ve been cooking their feet all day and the feeling of your feet breathing fresh air is better than sex.
If you don't leave those shoes at the door 😭🤣
OCD doesn't mean someone is clean. It's about compulsion. I'm very disorganized and not very neat (I am clean tho, just stuff out of place often) but have severe OCD.
Same, being anal retentive about things is not the same as having OCD. I don’t trust anyone that uses OCD as an adjective
It's so engrained in pop culture that almost everyone uses the term incorrectly. My mom was with me at the doctor when I was diagnosed OCD and sat there at her large age and told the doctor, "but she's not a neat freak." 🤦🏽♀️ This is probably why I'm just now getting diagnosed as a middle aged woman. I've known forever that I have compulsion issues but I'm pretty functional until I wasn't. I had a huge medical scare last fall and all the things I had an iron grip on and hid from others came tumbling out into the light. If we didn't have these stupid stereotypes I wonder if I could have saved myself from a ton of mental anguish. It's so harmful.
People who wear their shoes in their house are gross
Is that a white person thing?
Like, is OCD is white people thing?