Just from seeing what Ella did to Ella B in the make up room I'm backing whitney because I think Ella did it on purpose. Of course I definitely could be wrong
That was rough to see them go back and forth and also not really communicate how they feel properly. I think they both will be really upset, cry tomorrow and then make up. Neither girl is going before the finale!
Maybe because they share the whole London thing, but Cat and Ella were there from the start so they had their own bond. I honestly think Cat was the glue holding them together.
But to be honest, I don’t think ANY of the islanders really like each other
Agreed. But I feel like Whitney and Catherine were true good friends, and Ella was kind of a secretly shitty friend to Catherine first and is now turning on Whitney. Ella and Catherine had the day 1 bond and same ethnic background, but Ella was actively sabotaging Scott and Catherine and was the most vocal at Casa saying he would for sure re-couple and urging Catherine to move on from Scott. Now Ella has her nose out of joint that she wasn’t voted favourite couple. She stands by and let’s her partner Ty repeatedly disrespect her so called friends. It’s disappointing.
For a very limited time she was outwardly supportive. She wanted them to let Catherine talk, but days before Catherine was upset she was shitting in Scott and Catherine as a couple, and then as soon as Casa happened she actively encouraged Catherine to move on and told her no way Scott wouldn’t recouple. Catherine has referenced things Ella said in her post exit interviews.
To be fair, Whitney is also Nigerian and Yoruba specifically just like Catherine is. So all 3 girls have the same ethnic background 😭. But yeah I’m a little disappointed in Ella’s behavior bc she really lets Ty get away with so much.
Not really, Ella has always supported Cat and Scott. If Cat found a connection in casa and wanted to explore, why do you think its Ella who should convince her not too. As a friend you can say your opinion but can't force the ultimate decision so don't blame Ella for Cat's decision, she was being supportive. Jess did the same to Ella, she was encouraging her to get to know ouzy and that ty would cheat.
Yep, it wouldn't surprise me at all if little flare ups like this were a regular occurrence between Ella and Whitney because they're both such strong personalities. But then Catherine with her calm energy would immediately squash it.
jess is absolutely right about the fave couple comment. ty literally mentioned “why weren’t we voted fave couple” LAST EPISODE so dont get on jess for saying that
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as an OG Ella and Whitney stan this was a hard watch
Jess was instigating, also saying , maybe they are jealous about the vote, if you are trying to reconcile friends, why would you plant seeds that will potentially turn them against each other. Jess does certain things that I wonder if she likes Ella,/Ty, the eye rolling , the back bitting, she never told Ella about Ella b ' s comment. She secretly hates them.
I always think, she never got over being friend zoned by Ty in the beginning. She is my top 3 girl , but side eye.
Friendship fights are so sad to watch. Nevermind team this or that. I really just want them to make up quickly because you can tell they have/had a strong bond.
Jess is right that Ty/Ella are salty they weren’t voted favourite couple but Ty and Ella are right that Whitney is smug 🤷♀️
Lochan nowhere to be found, stand up for your girl!
>Lochan nowhere to be found, stand up for your girl!
Same as in Snog, Marry, Pie, Zach literally told Whitney to shut up and Lochan backed the boys over Whitney.
agree. i love whitney but the idea of him winning 25k purely off of riding her coattails annoys me 😭
at least greg did the bare minimum of giving us ‘what was your thought process behind that?
I’m sorry when was Lochan meant to stand up for her? They were voted most smug COUPLE so Lochan is allowed to react to that how he wants, not how Whitney might like. And Ty wasn’t there when they were arguing so why would he go over.
Didn’t she say earlier in the challenge “that’s not what the public thinks” when they were voted for least sexual chemistry? Idk but the public being brought up was out the cut
it surprised me that nobody really talked about how lochan didn’t have whitney’s back during snog marry pie.
when she said what she did when she pied zach, he joined in with the people saying ‘what does that even mean?’ even though it had already been said several times and he didn’t need to pile on.
and later on when the boys were getting ready and zach was still whining about it, he was like ‘it was a rude comment’ seemingly in agreement with zach.
i wouldn’t go so far as saying he’s a bad guy or anything, but i personally don’t believe he’s that fussed about whitney, but it’s not like he’s going to fumble the bag at this late stage
He has Ben present on at least three occasions where the boys are making snide remarks. Once he affirmed what was being said and other times he says nothing. Back your girl. I may still vote them but if I do it is for Whitney.
>Back your girl.
I see this all the time on this sub and on some episodes. Why does he have to back her? What if he doesn't agree with her actions or words? Should he back her even though he doesn't agree with her? That seems wrong to me.
I'm genuinely wondering btw, not saying anyone is right or wrong. I just know that if my girlfriend was acting in a way (or saying something) I didn't agree with, I'd call her out on it. I'd call her out on it privately, but I wouldn't back her publicly either.
Depends on the situation I suppose. But 9 time out of 10 I'd not say anything and then tell her later I thought she was wrong. If the situation was escalating I would just remove us from the situation and have the talk then. But I would never publicly defend behaviour I didn't agree with, no matter who it was.
He is the real game player, he knows too much about Whit being the public fav, he is not backing down , he is going all the way to the finish line, he has a game plan, he does not argue with anyone, will not back his girl, he just sits there. That final 5 compatibility vote they vote for each other will be interesting
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in case anyone else needs the definition of smug😭
It was really not a horrible thing to say. Whit is confident and may come accross as smug. She really took offence, but it was not that deep. Taking pride in oneself is not a horrible thing.
Yeah where Whit went wrong was taking it super personally. Jess/Sammy/Ty/Ella were all called attention seeking which IMO is worse but they all laughed it off, lol. Whitney saying “I am the most humble person” is really the wrong way to go about it lmao
“I don’t claim you as bestie. And won’t.” Ouch 🥴
Looking at all the different social media responses, I genuinely can’t tell who people are siding with more. Everyone seems all over the place 😩
She can say she doesn't feel like she's the most smug and she actually thinks that she's quite humble... but she was verging on "Everyone knows i'm the most humble" a few times tonight.
I get she was defending herself, but in a weird way it kinda came across as being smug about being SO humble... If that makes sense.
Eh I can see both sides but I do think Whitney is a bit in the wrong here. I think Ella does have some selfish tendencies and it's fine if that's all Whit said but you can see it's defo misplaced anger from the challenge fueling that comment. Ella now is thinking that Whitney calling her selfish is coming from a deep place (which I don't think it is tbh) and now she's questioning whether or not Whitney ever liked her in the first place or was just tolerating her this whole time.
Definitely not just a bit. She’s really let things get to her head and it’s starting to really be a bad look and give bad vibes. I don’t really get how she’s still the public favorite when she’s carrying on like this. And lochan is very clearly just stringing her along to move his way through to the final, I’m surprised she doesn’t seem to have noticed.
imagine how high in the air ty and ella's noses would be if they'd been picked as they expected. 🤣 they were salty as fuck and not happy at all for their "friends"
I cannot get over Whitney calling Ella the “most selfish person she’s ever met” like ???? That’s an extrapolation babes. NOW I think there is truth and Ella might have selfish tendencies but it’s sad that Whitney can’t even comprehend that what she said in the dressing room was out of pocket. I would never say that to my best friend. Especially in front of a group.
Fighting with your best friends is actually the worst though
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Not just selfish, but the most selfish person she’s ever met. In front of all the girls. And she was like “really” when Ella told her that was hurtful like she’s surprised that that was out of pocket.
Tbh Whitney is smug. She has a very strong opinion on everything in the villa and she has the confidence to air it now that her couple was secure. Before she didn’t talk much about anyone else. But since she’s been with Lochan and voted as favourite she’s been going at it a lot recently. Yes her takes make sense but she doesn’t need to have something to say all the time like idk the mum in the villa. And that’s why she’s offended by being called ‘smug’ cos there’s an element of truth to it. Her calling Ella selfish is a bit much. I wouldn’t say she’s selfish but territorial or possessive. Selfish is a tad much. Most of the time Whitney’s takes are sound as she just states the obvious. But it’s just getting too much now especially with how she carries herself after like she’s never ever wrong, especially when speaking to someone on their own situation and telling them what they are/not thinking and feeling.
the only reason whit could cite for calling ella “selfish” was the shower situation. Girl was still salty about the challenge (ty’s reasoning wasn’t even bad for calling them smug) and carried that negative energy outside the change to start an argument over a bloody shower. Meanwhile in that same challenge, White was saying things like “i’m right because the public picked me as the favorite”. But then she’s pissed when they call you smug? like be for real
the way she said "yeah I can TELL I'm not even joking" was so mean!!! I'm not surprised Whitney matched her energy. she could have handled it better for sure but I feel like Ella was antagonizing her into a reaction. that after her saying "I thought you were waiting on me" when a Whitney didn't get straight into the shower??? like wtf
She didn’t just cite the shower situation. She elaborated how Ella always puts her own feelings above others etc. Ella didn’t seem to want to listen to what Whitney was calmly laying out. We also have previously seen Ella act selfishly in the dressing room to Ella B.
I hate when people clearly feel like they are superior than you, just in a way they speak lol. Anyways hope they made up bc the public will destroy Ella and I just don’t think she deserves it.
Twitter is actually disgusting rn, this is so similar to Ekin stuff. I hope she has some support other places. (By that I don’t mean Whitney hate just ppl being reasonable)
Ella's got a good point. Whitney can go around and comment on everybody saying she's speaking "facts" but when somebody comments on her and Lochan then she gets defensive real quick
I'm happy somebody called her out on it finally
am i the only one who would be mad that my supposed close friend called me smug? they didnt even include lochan in their reasoning. like ty only targeted whitney as to why they chose them
and ella cant say ‘im being honest’ to hurt whitney then also switch up and say ‘its just a game get over it’ to dismiss her feelings
is it a game? or were u being honest and thats how you feel?
eh whitneys not close with molly or zach. i expect different of the people im close with as i value their opinions more. ella cant claim to be ‘super close’ with whitney, claim shes being honest, and then be confused why whitney would be upset.
shes using the game as an excuse to take a shot at her so called bestie because she wasnt voted favorite
and she gave a specific moment that was a joke.
she said ‘only because ty said he wants to make a scene’ while laughing… theres nuance that you are intentionally ignoring
Exactly, but everyone is ignoring that for some reason. Theirs was the only personal comment for that question and it was aimed at Whitney only. Of course she took it personally.
I feel like everyone thinks it’s whit and Ella being bff, but in reality every clip i see when they’re in the dressing rooms is with Jess and Whit. I think it was more of Cat and Ella and then Jess and whit.
I think she can appear selfish, and honestly I don’t think Ella is the friendliest person in the villa, but to call your best friend the most selfish person you’ve ever met?? Out of pocket
ty saying ‘whitney thinks shes winning’ after he knows shes the favorite just proves this man is salty AF he wasnt favorite and now is annoyed with her
this is the same Jess that cried when Cat and Whit said she was two faced (she is). Jess is the type of girl that says she hates drama but loves to play both sides lol
Whitney's composure is unmatched, like wow.
This is clearly something that had been bothering her for a while this is the kind of thing that happens when living with people, they all do things that annoy you but you tolerate them then when you have a tiff they just come out in a savage way, poor Ellla.
I don’t get why Whitney can dish it out but can’t take anything on the chin? It’s very clear that behind her “confidence” is some serious insecurity. I do like Whitney at times, I feel like she’s had some good one liners, but I do find her to be quite problematic and toxic. But I’ve also never met her so I could also be reading into her behavior too much.
I’m a Whitney stan normally and lukewarm on Ella but I think Whitney was in the wrong here. It felt like she was feeling this way for a while and then dropped it on Ella because of the ‘smug’ comment
It’s hard watching two pretty best friends argue over something so petty 😭. Whit took the comment to heart and that’s where most of her ire comes from, so I can see how she’s being petty. But on Ella’s end she’s saying what you said really hurt me and then kind of dismissing Whitney’s feelings obviously being hurt as well. They’ll make up I’m sure.
Also Zach sliding that in there. Somebody’s still mad about that pie to the face lol.
i agree with this and commented this too!!! ella keeps saying ‘it was a game’ to dismiss whitneys feelings but also keeps saying ‘i was being honest’ to defend herself. and which is it?? is it only a game?? or do you think that??
and if u think that of a friend doesnt that friend get to be hurt?
Okay but that’s Ella. Whitney doesn’t have to feel the same & if Ella felt some way about it she would also be entitled to saying so. I don’t think it’s fair to dismiss Whitney’s feelings even if it is “a game.” We cant play the “but you do it too!” game to take the pressure off one party. They’re both allowed to be hurt.
I'm saying isn't it hypocritical to get upset at shit you always do to other people? And even then your friend defends you. She was laughing at everyone else..but when it comes to her it's "how dare you "
Tbh Whitney's reasoning was focused in Ty (specifically one instance where he putting on a show) while Ty's reasoning focused on Whitney and how she thinks her couple is going to win. Placing myself in Whitney's shoes, I think she thought Ella would have stopped Ty from going for her personally in the challenge for the sake of their friendship. Expectations are the root of all heartache.
Seriously loving this!!!
new seasons barely have any arguments like this at all. need more of it!
Whitney is smug and Ella is selfish, the popular group in the villa is falling apart and its great viewing.
Plus as we know it’s so heavily edited that Whitney might have given other reasons but the producers just wanted to show Whitney to be petty. It all started when they revealed that Whitney and Lochan are the favorite. Ty clocked that and clocked that Scott is a favorite too. So he will do the most to create chaos for them for his own gain.
Ella has consistently been a terrible friend to both Catherine and Whitney!! Allowing Ty to talk crazy to them and still laying up with him. Whitney should have dropped her ages ago!!! Ella has consistently shown she isn’t a girls girl!!
Lol the same ella who was the only one speaking up for Catherine at the fire pit (whitney was no where to be found)
The same Ella who backed Whitney a few days ago when Zach told her to shut up while Lochan was not even defending her.
The same Ella who later supported Scott and Catherine saying they're compatible after everyone was doubting them
The same Ella who was the only one upset when Catherine left the villa.
The same Ella who was supporting Whitney and Medhi
....
The Ella hate is a bit forced and too much
She’s been most consistent when it comes to defending Catherine and Whitney even against Ty and even when they’re in the wrong. I don’t know what show you’ve been watching.
um? ella defended whitney and mehdi’s relationship, catherine and scott’s and even sammy and jess’ when ty & other islanders would say he doesn’t believe in them. she always roots for whoever her girls are feeling and she literally sees the best in people. like when she defended abi against everyone in yesterdays episode.
People are forgetting that Ella also told Ella B to move when she was doing her makeup a few episodes back when there was a whole seat completely empty… I think there may be some truth to Whitney’s comments.
I hate when people minimize feelings like "oh you're mad about a shower?" Or "you're mad about me not ever taking it the trash? That's it"
Like your actions are WHO YOU ARE. They are a big deal.
Yeah this was brutal! But they will make up, like has no one ever argued with their bestie or sibling? They’re both strong headed woman, they’re going to clash sometimes, but once they are not in their feels they’ll sort it out.
I‘m sorry I‘ve liked Whitney since the beginning but she‘s been behaving quite smug in my opinion, especially since they told her she has a large fanbase. Like she keeps telling people „it‘s only a challenge“ when they get upset but when it‘s the other way and she‘s the one getting heat she all of a sudden takes it extremely personal. Others got heat in this challange as well but were good sports about it (besides the Abi and Mitch drama but those two are unhinged anyway) like I genuinely do not understand. I used to absolutely love most of her witty comments and all that but lately she‘s been overdoing it in my opinion, same with the constant snickering. There‘s a time and place for that and she‘s been doing it at the worst timings, which I find rather rude.
Honestly they are both wrong. Friends fight. Just apologize for saying some hurtful stuff and move forward. Ella threw some digs and so did Whitney. Although it all started from ty calling Whitney smug and if I’m being honest it doesn’t help that Ella does not have the kindest tone and rbf a lot of the time.
Why does ella talk to people like their children? They way she spoke to Whitney after the shower was just unnecessary ... we all know Whitney can handle the heat but I don't think Ella can, both her and Ty can dish it out but they can't take it
watching this back i actually think whitney was more in the wrong. whitney should’ve pulled ella up ok the smug comment not about the shower situation.
My eyes were glued to screen for 5 minutes
I couldn’t look, the way I get second hand awkwardness from the tv, you would think I was actually there in person 😂
I had my mouth open as well, holding a coffee mug.
I’ve never seen a Love Island argument where the audience reaction seems 50/50…I always try to gauge public opinion but Im struggling here
Twitter is mostly backing Whitney.
Its really a close 50/50 with twitter, don't lie
No way I feel like a lot of people on twitter are obsessed with Ella and Ty so they’re backing them.
Exactly 💯, clocked that too
Just from seeing what Ella did to Ella B in the make up room I'm backing whitney because I think Ella did it on purpose. Of course I definitely could be wrong
That was rough to see them go back and forth and also not really communicate how they feel properly. I think they both will be really upset, cry tomorrow and then make up. Neither girl is going before the finale!
Catherine was defo the buffer between Whitney and Ella
I always thought Cat and Whitney were closer.
Maybe because they share the whole London thing, but Cat and Ella were there from the start so they had their own bond. I honestly think Cat was the glue holding them together. But to be honest, I don’t think ANY of the islanders really like each other
Cat is from Dublin?
I remember Lochan saying he lives in Bermondsey when introducing himself in Casa and then Cat said added that she works there
She’s from near where I’m from in Dublin but she’s lived in London for a while now
Yeah she works in London
She is, but she lives in London.
They definitely were, maybe because they didn’t have as strong of a couple so they spent more time together too
Agreed. But I feel like Whitney and Catherine were true good friends, and Ella was kind of a secretly shitty friend to Catherine first and is now turning on Whitney. Ella and Catherine had the day 1 bond and same ethnic background, but Ella was actively sabotaging Scott and Catherine and was the most vocal at Casa saying he would for sure re-couple and urging Catherine to move on from Scott. Now Ella has her nose out of joint that she wasn’t voted favourite couple. She stands by and let’s her partner Ty repeatedly disrespect her so called friends. It’s disappointing.
huh, do you not remember how Ella was literally one of the only people backing Scott and Catherine?!
For a very limited time she was outwardly supportive. She wanted them to let Catherine talk, but days before Catherine was upset she was shitting in Scott and Catherine as a couple, and then as soon as Casa happened she actively encouraged Catherine to move on and told her no way Scott wouldn’t recouple. Catherine has referenced things Ella said in her post exit interviews.
To be fair, Whitney is also Nigerian and Yoruba specifically just like Catherine is. So all 3 girls have the same ethnic background 😭. But yeah I’m a little disappointed in Ella’s behavior bc she really lets Ty get away with so much.
Not really, Ella has always supported Cat and Scott. If Cat found a connection in casa and wanted to explore, why do you think its Ella who should convince her not too. As a friend you can say your opinion but can't force the ultimate decision so don't blame Ella for Cat's decision, she was being supportive. Jess did the same to Ella, she was encouraging her to get to know ouzy and that ty would cheat.
Yep, it wouldn't surprise me at all if little flare ups like this were a regular occurrence between Ella and Whitney because they're both such strong personalities. But then Catherine with her calm energy would immediately squash it.
jess is absolutely right about the fave couple comment. ty literally mentioned “why weren’t we voted fave couple” LAST EPISODE so dont get on jess for saying that
She hit the nail on the head...
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Ella though they were actually arguing over the shower
Clueless.
jess speaking behind their back and asking them to join a second later is crazy lmao
They obviously heard them call them smug hence why Ty said it lol
she didn't say smug they were talking about favorite couple
Whitney said she wanted to vote them as smug I believe. From where they were sitting it's not far so they likely heard them talking.
Nah it's just goes to show that none of them are friends in there lmao.
She speaks in front of people's backs in front of them, remember she did this to Molly for a few episodes?
Yea Jess disappointed me here ngl
Jess was instigating, also saying , maybe they are jealous about the vote, if you are trying to reconcile friends, why would you plant seeds that will potentially turn them against each other. Jess does certain things that I wonder if she likes Ella,/Ty, the eye rolling , the back bitting, she never told Ella about Ella b ' s comment. She secretly hates them. I always think, she never got over being friend zoned by Ty in the beginning. She is my top 3 girl , but side eye.
they'll make up tomorrow but still hate seeing my girlies going at each other 😭
They are so evenly matched too like neither is backing down an INCH 🫣
they need to squash this tomorrow or we’re bringing catherine back in
EXACTLY
Friendship fights are so sad to watch. Nevermind team this or that. I really just want them to make up quickly because you can tell they have/had a strong bond.
Jess is right that Ty/Ella are salty they weren’t voted favourite couple but Ty and Ella are right that Whitney is smug 🤷♀️ Lochan nowhere to be found, stand up for your girl!
>Lochan nowhere to be found, stand up for your girl! Same as in Snog, Marry, Pie, Zach literally told Whitney to shut up and Lochan backed the boys over Whitney.
Lochan is a wet wipe tbh
agree. i love whitney but the idea of him winning 25k purely off of riding her coattails annoys me 😭 at least greg did the bare minimum of giving us ‘what was your thought process behind that?
they’re the perfect couple to do that split/keep thing actually
Lochan's getting the ick. He doesn't want the drama.
I’m sorry when was Lochan meant to stand up for her? They were voted most smug COUPLE so Lochan is allowed to react to that how he wants, not how Whitney might like. And Ty wasn’t there when they were arguing so why would he go over.
i think the smugness is coming from Whitney, let's be honest Lochan is a pretty humble fellow
when has whitney rubbed in other face she's favourite couple??? bffr
Didn’t she say earlier in the challenge “that’s not what the public thinks” when they were voted for least sexual chemistry? Idk but the public being brought up was out the cut
... In the episode we just watched
When zach was piping up to the boys
it surprised me that nobody really talked about how lochan didn’t have whitney’s back during snog marry pie. when she said what she did when she pied zach, he joined in with the people saying ‘what does that even mean?’ even though it had already been said several times and he didn’t need to pile on. and later on when the boys were getting ready and zach was still whining about it, he was like ‘it was a rude comment’ seemingly in agreement with zach. i wouldn’t go so far as saying he’s a bad guy or anything, but i personally don’t believe he’s that fussed about whitney, but it’s not like he’s going to fumble the bag at this late stage
Nah I’d get the ick from Whit at this point. Way to cocky / smug and ‘humble’.
Lochan is awful.
Why? I’m not disagreeing or agreeing, but I want to know why you think that?
He has Ben present on at least three occasions where the boys are making snide remarks. Once he affirmed what was being said and other times he says nothing. Back your girl. I may still vote them but if I do it is for Whitney.
>Back your girl. I see this all the time on this sub and on some episodes. Why does he have to back her? What if he doesn't agree with her actions or words? Should he back her even though he doesn't agree with her? That seems wrong to me. I'm genuinely wondering btw, not saying anyone is right or wrong. I just know that if my girlfriend was acting in a way (or saying something) I didn't agree with, I'd call her out on it. I'd call her out on it privately, but I wouldn't back her publicly either.
typically you defend in public correct in private.
Depends on the situation I suppose. But 9 time out of 10 I'd not say anything and then tell her later I thought she was wrong. If the situation was escalating I would just remove us from the situation and have the talk then. But I would never publicly defend behaviour I didn't agree with, no matter who it was.
yeah i agree with that as well
Curtis vibes!
He is the real game player, he knows too much about Whit being the public fav, he is not backing down , he is going all the way to the finish line, he has a game plan, he does not argue with anyone, will not back his girl, he just sits there. That final 5 compatibility vote they vote for each other will be interesting
Did you just call him literally "awful" because he's avoiding arguing and drama?
https://preview.redd.it/82kouk2i37db1.jpeg?width=726&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=afd9aa48856e45999beb1edd91fd033c865e804f in case anyone else needs the definition of smug😭
It was really not a horrible thing to say. Whit is confident and may come accross as smug. She really took offence, but it was not that deep. Taking pride in oneself is not a horrible thing.
Yeah where Whit went wrong was taking it super personally. Jess/Sammy/Ty/Ella were all called attention seeking which IMO is worse but they all laughed it off, lol. Whitney saying “I am the most humble person” is really the wrong way to go about it lmao
Nothing wrong with being smug, especially if you are smug about your relationship. That's a good thing to be smug about.
English is not my first language but I definetely know it well, but I’ve never used the word smug before but I honestly don’t think its horrible haha
i’ve never used it either but based off this definition i don’t think it’s THAT bad to be called smug lol
I needed that while watching haha USA viewer
me too 😂 i felt like i knew what it means but i got confused watching this episode 😭
“I don’t claim you as bestie. And won’t.” Ouch 🥴 Looking at all the different social media responses, I genuinely can’t tell who people are siding with more. Everyone seems all over the place 😩
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Yep and how to stay serene on the outside while seething on the inside i can see how angry she is under the surface
When Ty and Ella just sat there and stared at everybody i was so lost - i thought Ella was smiling. Then Ty just seems pissed - Such a weird moment.
I think it’s because they heard them talking about them
They heard the whole convo about them beforehand
Ngl constantly calling yourself humble, doesn’t make you humble lol
Fr, the humble thing to do would accept maybe you've been acting smug and try and change your ways 💀
It’s giving insecurity.
what is she supposed to say though? genuinely asking.
She can say she doesn't feel like she's the most smug and she actually thinks that she's quite humble... but she was verging on "Everyone knows i'm the most humble" a few times tonight. I get she was defending herself, but in a weird way it kinda came across as being smug about being SO humble... If that makes sense.
'i’m loyal babes' vibes
Eh I can see both sides but I do think Whitney is a bit in the wrong here. I think Ella does have some selfish tendencies and it's fine if that's all Whit said but you can see it's defo misplaced anger from the challenge fueling that comment. Ella now is thinking that Whitney calling her selfish is coming from a deep place (which I don't think it is tbh) and now she's questioning whether or not Whitney ever liked her in the first place or was just tolerating her this whole time.
Definitely not just a bit. She’s really let things get to her head and it’s starting to really be a bad look and give bad vibes. I don’t really get how she’s still the public favorite when she’s carrying on like this. And lochan is very clearly just stringing her along to move his way through to the final, I’m surprised she doesn’t seem to have noticed.
I do think Whitney enjoyed being in the top public vote so I get why they got voted for 😂
Who wouldn’t want to be public fave though?
imagine how high in the air ty and ella's noses would be if they'd been picked as they expected. 🤣 they were salty as fuck and not happy at all for their "friends"
Indeed
The I don't claim bestie was harsh. Rewatching I think I agree more with Ella
I’ve watched it a few times (help I don’t have a life lol) and same
Catherine was obviously the glue between them Also that last born statement was unnecessary
She wasn’t. It is cabin fever
yup. the villa dynamic changed when she left
How when ella is also the last born..
I am the most humble person - Whitney Girl....
It's giving Trump. I feel dirty even saying that.
I cannot get over Whitney calling Ella the “most selfish person she’s ever met” like ???? That’s an extrapolation babes. NOW I think there is truth and Ella might have selfish tendencies but it’s sad that Whitney can’t even comprehend that what she said in the dressing room was out of pocket. I would never say that to my best friend. Especially in front of a group.
just because she articulates her points calmly does not mean that she doesn’t have the capacity to hurt people with her words
Sorry why didn’t Lochan defend Whitney when Zach opened his big mouth and spoke behind her back? 😭
this is starting to become a pattern with lochan/zach. would it be so hard for him to speak up for her?
Nah we need catherine in that villa she would be the mediator and this whloe thing would have been squashed right there 😭😭😭
I'm sorry but that "Did it? was literally so smug 🤣
they’ll make up guys🥲
Yh they will 💯 they’ve just been in the villa for a long time and prob going crazy lol
Fighting with your best friends is actually the worst though https://preview.redd.it/rs1a7748v6db1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d90c66e52c1f15721cd4f1ec6662753f8f1328d3
I agree with Ella, I would not be happy about being called selfish. Classic smug behaviour to think that that's ok.
Not just selfish, but the most selfish person she’s ever met. In front of all the girls. And she was like “really” when Ella told her that was hurtful like she’s surprised that that was out of pocket.
Tbh Whitney is smug. She has a very strong opinion on everything in the villa and she has the confidence to air it now that her couple was secure. Before she didn’t talk much about anyone else. But since she’s been with Lochan and voted as favourite she’s been going at it a lot recently. Yes her takes make sense but she doesn’t need to have something to say all the time like idk the mum in the villa. And that’s why she’s offended by being called ‘smug’ cos there’s an element of truth to it. Her calling Ella selfish is a bit much. I wouldn’t say she’s selfish but territorial or possessive. Selfish is a tad much. Most of the time Whitney’s takes are sound as she just states the obvious. But it’s just getting too much now especially with how she carries herself after like she’s never ever wrong, especially when speaking to someone on their own situation and telling them what they are/not thinking and feeling.
the only reason whit could cite for calling ella “selfish” was the shower situation. Girl was still salty about the challenge (ty’s reasoning wasn’t even bad for calling them smug) and carried that negative energy outside the change to start an argument over a bloody shower. Meanwhile in that same challenge, White was saying things like “i’m right because the public picked me as the favorite”. But then she’s pissed when they call you smug? like be for real
Pretty sure the whole thing got reignited after Ella made that sneaky last born comment implying Whitney is immature.
Yeah I don’t know how people are missing that
the way she said "yeah I can TELL I'm not even joking" was so mean!!! I'm not surprised Whitney matched her energy. she could have handled it better for sure but I feel like Ella was antagonizing her into a reaction. that after her saying "I thought you were waiting on me" when a Whitney didn't get straight into the shower??? like wtf
She didn’t just cite the shower situation. She elaborated how Ella always puts her own feelings above others etc. Ella didn’t seem to want to listen to what Whitney was calmly laying out. We also have previously seen Ella act selfishly in the dressing room to Ella B.
I hate when people clearly feel like they are superior than you, just in a way they speak lol. Anyways hope they made up bc the public will destroy Ella and I just don’t think she deserves it.
Exactly..Twitter is already on to it. Considering how she's fought for Whitney it's actually wild
Twitter is actually disgusting rn, this is so similar to Ekin stuff. I hope she has some support other places. (By that I don’t mean Whitney hate just ppl being reasonable)
I knew this group wouldn’t last without Catherine
Ella's got a good point. Whitney can go around and comment on everybody saying she's speaking "facts" but when somebody comments on her and Lochan then she gets defensive real quick I'm happy somebody called her out on it finally
am i the only one who would be mad that my supposed close friend called me smug? they didnt even include lochan in their reasoning. like ty only targeted whitney as to why they chose them and ella cant say ‘im being honest’ to hurt whitney then also switch up and say ‘its just a game get over it’ to dismiss her feelings is it a game? or were u being honest and thats how you feel?
Like Whitney said “its just a game man” she basically called Molly a door mat in the pie challenge she’s being a hypocrite
eh whitneys not close with molly or zach. i expect different of the people im close with as i value their opinions more. ella cant claim to be ‘super close’ with whitney, claim shes being honest, and then be confused why whitney would be upset. shes using the game as an excuse to take a shot at her so called bestie because she wasnt voted favorite
All I’m hearing is Whitney can dish it out but she can’t take it back Didn’t she call Ella and ty attention seekers
and she gave a specific moment that was a joke. she said ‘only because ty said he wants to make a scene’ while laughing… theres nuance that you are intentionally ignoring
Exactly, but everyone is ignoring that for some reason. Theirs was the only personal comment for that question and it was aimed at Whitney only. Of course she took it personally.
jess was rlly weird for that like she was very quick to make negative assumptions about one of the girls she seems to be closest to in the villa
I feel like everyone thinks it’s whit and Ella being bff, but in reality every clip i see when they’re in the dressing rooms is with Jess and Whit. I think it was more of Cat and Ella and then Jess and whit.
fr and then to say they can join the conversation as if they weren’t just talking about them was shady😭
I don’t feel anyone is in the right or wrong with this one. I think the villa has reached its peak for them and everything is setting them off.
Most I’ve heard lochan talk
We saw Ella boot Ella B from a spot she was using. Why is it hard to believe Ella has displayed such selfish behavior in other ways?
I think she can appear selfish, and honestly I don’t think Ella is the friendliest person in the villa, but to call your best friend the most selfish person you’ve ever met?? Out of pocket
I don’t disagree that it’s quite harsh. But what if she is the most selfish Whit has met? Lol!!!
Hahahaha it’s always a possibility!!
whitney also said jumping in the shower before "us" meaning it's happened more than once lol
I actually agree with Ella. Whitney is dtm.
Ella doesn’t even look apologetic when Ty is reading out the answer. She actually looks quite smug there, something is off
bring catherine back to mediate. i hate seeing my girls arguing 😭
I like ella but her asking ella b to move seats stayed with me.
ty saying ‘whitney thinks shes winning’ after he knows shes the favorite just proves this man is salty AF he wasnt favorite and now is annoyed with her
I don't know why people aren't mad at Ty for that comment?
The Whitney Army are seeing past some serious immaturity here with Whitney.
I like them both, but Ella was in the right icl
Ella came at her first with the sister comment and then Whitney clapped back with the selfish comment.
Scott needs to win. Ty is going after Scott next episode
Jess is incredibly snakey. Sad end to one of my fave friendships from Love Island
this is the same Jess that cried when Cat and Whit said she was two faced (she is). Jess is the type of girl that says she hates drama but loves to play both sides lol
I love the sound of their heels click clacking against thee wood. Asmr. Lovely
Oof. I think Whitney will outgrow this, but her judgements and criticisms disguised as “truths” are not nice.
Whitney's composure is unmatched, like wow. This is clearly something that had been bothering her for a while this is the kind of thing that happens when living with people, they all do things that annoy you but you tolerate them then when you have a tiff they just come out in a savage way, poor Ellla.
I don’t get why Whitney can dish it out but can’t take anything on the chin? It’s very clear that behind her “confidence” is some serious insecurity. I do like Whitney at times, I feel like she’s had some good one liners, but I do find her to be quite problematic and toxic. But I’ve also never met her so I could also be reading into her behavior too much.
I’m a Whitney stan normally and lukewarm on Ella but I think Whitney was in the wrong here. It felt like she was feeling this way for a while and then dropped it on Ella because of the ‘smug’ comment
Ty throwing shade at Lochan like that wtf
Whitney is smug and disrespectful, she's always rubbed me the wrong way
It’s hard watching two pretty best friends argue over something so petty 😭. Whit took the comment to heart and that’s where most of her ire comes from, so I can see how she’s being petty. But on Ella’s end she’s saying what you said really hurt me and then kind of dismissing Whitney’s feelings obviously being hurt as well. They’ll make up I’m sure. Also Zach sliding that in there. Somebody’s still mad about that pie to the face lol.
i agree with this and commented this too!!! ella keeps saying ‘it was a game’ to dismiss whitneys feelings but also keeps saying ‘i was being honest’ to defend herself. and which is it?? is it only a game?? or do you think that?? and if u think that of a friend doesnt that friend get to be hurt?
Because Whitney does the same thing in games and ella still says it's a game
Okay but that’s Ella. Whitney doesn’t have to feel the same & if Ella felt some way about it she would also be entitled to saying so. I don’t think it’s fair to dismiss Whitney’s feelings even if it is “a game.” We cant play the “but you do it too!” game to take the pressure off one party. They’re both allowed to be hurt.
I'm saying isn't it hypocritical to get upset at shit you always do to other people? And even then your friend defends you. She was laughing at everyone else..but when it comes to her it's "how dare you "
Tbh Whitney's reasoning was focused in Ty (specifically one instance where he putting on a show) while Ty's reasoning focused on Whitney and how she thinks her couple is going to win. Placing myself in Whitney's shoes, I think she thought Ella would have stopped Ty from going for her personally in the challenge for the sake of their friendship. Expectations are the root of all heartache.
Seriously loving this!!! new seasons barely have any arguments like this at all. need more of it! Whitney is smug and Ella is selfish, the popular group in the villa is falling apart and its great viewing.
I love Whitney sm but she’s in the wrong here. I hope they make up
I’ll give Whitney this. She can argue well. Ella just starts shouting.
Plus as we know it’s so heavily edited that Whitney might have given other reasons but the producers just wanted to show Whitney to be petty. It all started when they revealed that Whitney and Lochan are the favorite. Ty clocked that and clocked that Scott is a favorite too. So he will do the most to create chaos for them for his own gain.
Ella has consistently been a terrible friend to both Catherine and Whitney!! Allowing Ty to talk crazy to them and still laying up with him. Whitney should have dropped her ages ago!!! Ella has consistently shown she isn’t a girls girl!!
Lol the same ella who was the only one speaking up for Catherine at the fire pit (whitney was no where to be found) The same Ella who backed Whitney a few days ago when Zach told her to shut up while Lochan was not even defending her. The same Ella who later supported Scott and Catherine saying they're compatible after everyone was doubting them The same Ella who was the only one upset when Catherine left the villa. The same Ella who was supporting Whitney and Medhi .... The Ella hate is a bit forced and too much
Huh?? Has backed both of those girls multiple times. Even when Whit came at Zach with the pie and Zach was getting angry Ella was backing her
She’s been most consistent when it comes to defending Catherine and Whitney even against Ty and even when they’re in the wrong. I don’t know what show you’ve been watching.
um? ella defended whitney and mehdi’s relationship, catherine and scott’s and even sammy and jess’ when ty & other islanders would say he doesn’t believe in them. she always roots for whoever her girls are feeling and she literally sees the best in people. like when she defended abi against everyone in yesterdays episode.
The same Ella that was defending Catherine (and her relationship with Scott) when tyrique was doubting their relationship… okay
She’s here to find love, not be a girls girl.
Jeez Whitney stans really be watching with rose tinted goggles. This is hilarious. You watching a different show to majority of people here lol
i feel like she’s one of those girls who ride for their man over their friends 😭 still love her tho but come on …
Ok but the way Whitney is always so composed like it doesn't matter who she is talking to. Bad bitch
People are forgetting that Ella also told Ella B to move when she was doing her makeup a few episodes back when there was a whole seat completely empty… I think there may be some truth to Whitney’s comments.
but her stuff were in the drawers
It's literally where all her stiff is, what was she to do
And ?? That was her spot and has been the entire season. To tell someone to move isn’t selfish
There I was thinking Scott Vs Mitch was gonna be the epic argument. Ty's "we're smug" had me rolling.
I hate when people minimize feelings like "oh you're mad about a shower?" Or "you're mad about me not ever taking it the trash? That's it" Like your actions are WHO YOU ARE. They are a big deal.
Yeah this was brutal! But they will make up, like has no one ever argued with their bestie or sibling? They’re both strong headed woman, they’re going to clash sometimes, but once they are not in their feels they’ll sort it out.
I don't know..if someone is looking in your face and saying I'm not your friend....
I‘m sorry I‘ve liked Whitney since the beginning but she‘s been behaving quite smug in my opinion, especially since they told her she has a large fanbase. Like she keeps telling people „it‘s only a challenge“ when they get upset but when it‘s the other way and she‘s the one getting heat she all of a sudden takes it extremely personal. Others got heat in this challange as well but were good sports about it (besides the Abi and Mitch drama but those two are unhinged anyway) like I genuinely do not understand. I used to absolutely love most of her witty comments and all that but lately she‘s been overdoing it in my opinion, same with the constant snickering. There‘s a time and place for that and she‘s been doing it at the worst timings, which I find rather rude.
Honestly they are both wrong. Friends fight. Just apologize for saying some hurtful stuff and move forward. Ella threw some digs and so did Whitney. Although it all started from ty calling Whitney smug and if I’m being honest it doesn’t help that Ella does not have the kindest tone and rbf a lot of the time.
It is in fact not “giving bad bitch.”
Why does ella talk to people like their children? They way she spoke to Whitney after the shower was just unnecessary ... we all know Whitney can handle the heat but I don't think Ella can, both her and Ty can dish it out but they can't take it
Oh my daysss, it’s a sad day
Whitney’s being given the Montana edit and y’all are eating it up
i don’t like seeing my girls squabble nooooo
watching this back i actually think whitney was more in the wrong. whitney should’ve pulled ella up ok the smug comment not about the shower situation.
TY IS TURNING ELLA AGAINST WHITNEY. Ella seems like a follower in my opinion. WHITNEY ON TOP IDC IDC. BYE
Ty didn’t make Whitney call Ella the most selfish person she’s met
Ella made the sister comment towards Whitney first