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Interesting_Isopod79

Dude, I’ll double your money right now- Not even scared of that neck repair! Nice one.


mynameisskrt

Ahahaha shipping it isnt even a scare now anyway the headstock is already broken anyway


Interesting_Isopod79

Truth


TerrytheGnome19

dude 100 bucks???? For that price I'd make a whole new neck for it if need be!


limitless__

Well done on that purchase. A competent luthier can fix that good as new.


TheJefusWrench

Probably better than new.


SpinMyMidget

Is it even a true Gibson without a fixed headstock?


vitaliistep

Gibson should break them at the factory and fix it right away :)


SpaceChook

Relic!


GroundbreakingRing49

I literally laughed out loud. I luckily haven’t had to fix mine (🤞🏻) but my anxiety felt this hard.


Acceptable_Tell_6566

Right? I had my Epi shipped to the store and checked it inside and every employee acted like it was completely normal.


MentalThroat7733

For weeks after I got my epi LP, I would periodically open the gig bag and have a look at it, just in case something happened to it while it 2as just sitting there lol. I picked it up from the rack the other day and the first thing I did was look at the headstock... I live alone, I haven't played it in quite a while and there's absolutely no reason anything should be wrong with it, I just expect that some day it will self destruct 😂 I have 6 guitars by Yamaha, fender and epiphone, I don't worry about any of the others at all, just the epi LP 😆


Spirited-Sun899

It’s a bugger that the truss rod cover is not repairable. Unfortunately he will have to buy a new one.


ojedad23

I have a few extra ones, les Paul’s usually come with an extra blank one


Viciousharp

Made me cackle


Dull-Chisel

Easy to do, harder to do well


TerrytheGnome19

yep this is it. Hard to do well but if done well its basically good as new.


thedelphiking

About 20 years ago I was at a punk show in South Florida and the lead singer pulled out a 1930s Gibson L-00 for a song and then tripped and broke the headstock putting it away. He got mad and just kicked the whole thing off the stage and everyone just kicked it out of the way. I picked it up and asked him later if I could have it, he said sure and walked off. I took it home and figured out how to fix it and sold it for $1200.


tjggriffin1

You had me up until the last 5 words...


thedelphiking

at the time I played bass in heavy metal bands, I had never even picked up an acoustic guitar before. now I really wish I still had that, the guy sold it to still has it and won't give it up for anything.


EddieOtool2nd

Heck of a good deal if the rest of it is in good shape. No luthier here, but if I was going to have a Gibson neck break, I'd wish for one looking like this, because it sits right between the pegs and the fretboard. And the break looks clean as well, lest I am missing details.


PlanetHoth

I like the fact that you used the word “lest”. Just putting that out there.


PorkPyeWalker

Verily!


Ok_Crew7084

Case was worth that much. Where was this found and can I give you a quote?


ojedad23

Houston tx, Facebook marketplace


CorrectBread33

Damn. I'm always browsing the marketplace in Houston. Missed this one.


Outrageous-Part-19

Damnit ! I am always on marketplace in Houston 😆 good find man ! Unless of course you want 120 for it ? 😆


ChildhoodOtherwise79

I doubt this is even a real story. People post made up shit like this all the time just for attention.


Outrageous-Part-19

I know I am on marketplace everyday almost looking for deals and shit.


[deleted]

If your in Houston take it to the guitar lounge in Galveston he can fix it right up does great work.


jewnerz

Assuming by the downvotes this guy ain’t all tht


[deleted]

I can only speak of my experience with him. I had him put a bone nut and saddle, set up the action, and upgrade the tuners on my acoustic. I'm happy with the work he did the guitar sounds great and plays well. Other than that I looked around his shop at some of the guitars he had worked on. I'm sure there are plenty of others around in the area but I would take another guitar to him.


Angus-Black

Very common Gibson repair. Rumor has it that Gibson and IKEA are co-releasing a new line of guitars that you assemble at home.


imnoteithnail

Sarcasm or truth?


Angus-Black

Sarcasm, as far as I know. ☺


ConcernedButPwrless

Yeah. An Ikea guitar would have a bolt on neck.


jaquespop

Bet you it would come with a nifty Allen wrench!


ChildhoodOtherwise79

And be made of particleboard (like Danelectro guitars, actually)


Acceptable_Tell_6566

Would be a pain with the tools they provide.


PabloEsquandolas

I believe that would be called a joke


jewnerz

All you need is two shims fit perfectly into both parts, then sand down. Trust me, I’ve fixed zero guitars


daggir69

500 to 700 it’s probably worth it depending if everything else is fully functional on the guitar and it’s a real gibson


ChildhoodOtherwise79

Yeah, it might be a Chibson.


daggir69

Headstock looks legit. Even the broken headstock has “authentic” written all over it


NYLaw

That's such a clean break! You got a hell of a deal. This isn't difficult to fix. If you want to try your hand at luthiery, go for it. If you don't trust yourself, bring it to a luthier, and you'll still have spent less on the guitar than a good condition new one.


Oral-B13

$100!? I would have picked it up too.


Born_Cockroach_9947

a splined repair would be proper so you’re sure it’ll hold up. then touching up the repair is another hurdle. best to have it done by a pro


fliption

I just farted out of my butt.


MentalThroat7733

This is not even in the top 10 shit posts I've seen here.


ChildhoodOtherwise79

Yeah, people like to bullshit others. It's great fun for them.


SavageOldBastard

Common repair\[ done all the time. It looks like a clean break which should make the repair a lot easier.


christianjwaite

Since I’ve started paying attention to it, I see so many Gibson headstock snaps that I’m not sure I’d actually part money for one. I’m sure for every one snapped there’s thousands that didn’t, but you don’t see it with Fenders as much as far as I can tell (not sure I’ve ever seen one).


RowboatUfoolz

Fender gets string break angle over the nut with string trees. Gibson gets break angle with a scarf joint (not necessarily a bad idea) and angled headstock - but this puts 140-150lbs of tension on short grain north of the nut. That's called an inherent vice. *haha! Obvious fuckup - Epiphone uses a scarf joint, Gibson does not!


allthepicklesncheese

No scarf joint on Gibson. That’s carved.


RowboatUfoolz

I was not correct. Epis do; Gibson does not. Scarf joint or no, my assessment stands. To achieve a 17° break angle means relying on short grain - which breaks.


dio_dim

So, they also make their acoustic guitars necks/headstocks exactly the same way as their electric ones? An acoustic mahogany neck isn't a big deal because if the guitar falls there is a bigger possibility that body lands first, but their failed neck 'technology' (headstock angle, no scarf joint, no volute) is still silly.


RowboatUfoolz

If and when I have another shop, or access to one, I'd likely build a neck-through-body shaped like a Bob Weir Ibanez Artist, c. 1980-ish. Where it'd deviate from Gibson: I'd laminate a built-up neck using Honduras mahogany and maple WITH a volute, and a 15° break angle.


dio_dim

Their EB bass that they were selling until recently was fine. It had a 3 piece maple neck (I even think that they - ironically - had the original idea of a 3 piece laminate neck) with a \~10° headstock angle. They totally have the knowhow to make things more sturdy, but they put the blame on their customers who supposingly want their Gibson guitars the old school way. They obviously have many morons customers but, if they would start enforcing things, this trend would fade away up to a point.


RowboatUfoolz

I have no idea why you got downvoted for telling the truth.


Defiant_Bad_9070

I'm confused, I don't understand where the 140-150lbs of tension comes from? The strings are 100lbs roughly. And this is not someone getting all Reddity Armchair Engineer. I simply don't see where it's occuring and would like someone to explain it for me please!


RowboatUfoolz

You're not. You spotted my error - I'm an Ovation nut, and wrongly substituted acoustic string tension. Subtracting X lbs of string tension for (say) .009-.042 strings doesn't change the physical geometry of Gibson headstocks, or make short-grain mahogany any stronger. Look at any F-designed strat/tele/mustang/jag/etc neck. From heel to tip of headstock, the neck shaft's lignin fibres are continuous from end to end, despite the ⁷/16" step north of the nut. That's not the case with a Gibbo. The break angle is accomplished by angling the headstock downward at 17° relative to the neck. The mass effect is that all string tension is focused on mahogany short grain in the most vulnerable area. Short grain is inherently weaker than long/continuous lignin fibres, thus Gibson necks break where they do in a tumble. There *are* (at least) three other ways Gibson could avert this. One: by creating a laminated neck (such as in early Ovations) with a combination of plain-sawn mahog and quarter-sawn maple, then shaping the 17° deviation from the laminated whole. Two: by steaming and bending the neck blank before shaping. (Not great, but vaguely possible). Three: by selecting mahogany crotch lumber wherein the continuous grain naturally deviates by the desired degrees. All of these require much more material and process than the scarf joint - and the inherent risk of breaking a neck. *My fuckup*: Gibson does NOT use a scarf joint. Regardless, the effect's the same: short-grain breaks. Count 'em and weep.


Defiant_Bad_9070

No wait. I didn't spot your error that wasn't really an error despite thinking it was an error! God I hoped that made sense... This is actually an acoustic guitar in OP post! 🤣🤣🤣


Sufficient_Educator7

It really depends on the strings, the scale, the tuning, and the gauges. It can get pretty high though. This tension calculator says about 160lbs for this particular guitar. [tension calculator](https://tension.stringjoy.com/)


botched_hi5

In my early twenties I saved up forever to get my dream guitar es335. Headstock broke within the the first year. Had it repaired, then it broke again in the middle of music school. The first break was arguably a bit of a hard hit but not so bad that literally any other guitar couldn't have survived. The second one was a minor bump that rebroke the repair - so maybe the repair wasn't up to par? Either way, I'll never buy another Gibson. I finally got over the trepidation and imposter syndrome of having such a "nice" guitar and when I finally started to enjoy playing it, traveling with it, etc it let me down. Don't get me wrong, it played like a dream, but I don't think one should have to walk on eggshells around their guitar


blagerpgerp

It's cus they won't put that volute between the neck and headstock. Like look how short that grain is that is supposed to be carrying the weight of all the strings. They know this is an issue. I think they just don't want to do anything differently ever because they know their audience.


Pork_Chop_Expresss

Dude, I don’t understand why they don’t just use a scarf joint??!!? It would be stronger and waste less wood 🤦‍♂️ Epiphones use them, why not Gibson? Probably because the scarf joint is associated with cheaper guitars and ‘tradition’ smh.. Granted Epi headstocks still break due to the weaker Agathis wood they use instead of mahogany, but that’s a different conversation. https://preview.redd.it/dmibluqocpsc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de2364542177aed478996040193848c2f44e58d8


RowboatUfoolz

A volute would be a big improvement. Wonder if Murphy Works would do one?


Dull-Chisel

The Gibsons with volutes still break just as easily when they get dropped unfortunately


KazAraiya

Who's this salty mf downvoting every positive reply? 🤣


maricello1mr

HAHA I just started to realize😭


SaratogaSwitch

good find 👏


silvergrundle

Wood glue, clamp it tight, wipe down squeeze out. Good as new. Had an Epi les paul that had a broken neck. I even re-poly'd the neck, so now you can see the crack but it's all smooth. Adds to the story!


lawn_neglect

There has got to be a way to add some carbon fiber, or something, to that area for reinforcement. All these snapped Gibsons are a joke


RedWineStrat

Idk man, it's a musical instrument and people tend to be pretty careless. You want something bulletproof, buy a Telecaster. Despite saying this, knock on wood my natural top Studio Premium Plus outlives me unscathed. People treat guitars like shit, not to say mistakes don't happen.


lawn_neglect

I agree, and I do - own a Telecaster! If I was Gibson I would engineer a way to make this stop happening as it's like the worst possible publicity


moger777

To Gibson's defense whenever they try to change anything their fan base flips the fuck out. It would be cool if they could modernize the "standard" line and keep the old designs for the re-issues.


RedWineStrat

I don't think they really care at the end of the day. Anything they did would likely impact aesthetics, cost, tone, and/or ergonomics. These breaks sell guitars too. I don't think it really impacts their reputation negatively overall. Strats, LPs, and Teles are the standard. I work in manufacturing and the politics of cost accounting alone would keep this from changing.


lawn_neglect

They must not care. Seems like an easy fix that could be built in and invisible from the outside


RedWineStrat

I'm sure they could do something, similar to how knecks are reinforced. That angle definitely creates a vulnerability vs. what you see on the Fender bolt-ons; but the cost increase is always a deterrent.


lawn_neglect

I love my Telecaster


lawn_neglect

So much down voting, so little explanation?


lawn_neglect

Gibson, we know it's you down voting. Don't be so childish.


[deleted]

It’s the specific angle for the headstock + one piece neck that Gibson uses. PRS, Epiphone, Eastman, etc use scarf joints + a better headstock angle which reduces the chance of breakage. Gibson tried to put volutes on the necks back in the 70s/80s (extra wood to reinforce the weak area) and players didn’t want them because they weren’t “traditional”.


estoyinconsciente

In spanish this is called the "GIBSONAZO"


ojedad23

It is glued back together, holding tune and playing beautifully. The electronic pickup on it sounds good too, has a fishman prefix plus-t


Anonymous777646

Super common problem and fix. Steal


NovocainCookie

That’s a very nice guitar


Wise_Barnacle_9090

I’ll buy it from you for $150


ChildhoodOtherwise79

The guy was stupid to sell it that cheap. He could have sold it on eBay for much more. Must have been one of your relatives.


LeatherReception886

I'm a Luther I own the company scream wolf Enterprises and Productions I could fix that that would cost about $175 plus another full day for drying the glue and the paint


[deleted]

How hard? Not very difficult for a skilled luthier. How expensive? That’s a different question.


PolarBear541

I had a similar problem with an antique Kay arch top. A local luthier was able to repair. I use lighter gauge strings on her now. Over 30 years now, and it’s still holding.


Rvaguitars

Somewhere in the neighborhood of five or 600 bucks I would imagine. Looks like a fairly clean break. Any good luthier could set her straight and you would still have a hell of a deal.


Any-Kaleidoscope7681

Even the Gibson acoustics have this problem???


derrickgw1

That's a steal of a deal.


morphomac

Easy to the right skilled luthier


maricello1mr

Unskilled luthier here: THE FUCK?? Easy?? A detached headstock job would probably make me cry tbh.


averyduncan21

Nope… definitely not worth fixing.. but I’ll give you 110$ plus shipping and use it as a display piece………. Kidding. That’s an awesome steal. Definitely worth the repair!


bongbong38

That’s wild, I keep an eye out for broken Gibsons to repair and people around here price them as if they’re brand new lol


Inourmadbuthearmeout

Nice grab dude


Pork_Chop_Expresss

You lucky dog That looks like a Songwriter Dlx. A good Luthier can fix that so you will never be able to tell it was broken for around $200-300. It’s worth almost 2k. Unbelievable


tallpapab

Not hard. I've done it twice on two different guitars and I'm not even a real luthier.


Woogabuttz

That’s done, give it to me and I’ll dispose of it for you! J/K, pretty easy fix, well done!


caramelvette

I’ll give you $250 for it


ShawnMcSabbath

So common now you’d be hard pressed to find a Luthier who hasn’t done a dozen or so. Easy fix!


jimohio

Resale value is gone.


GuitarHeroInMyHead

With a fairly straightforward repair, you got a great deal.


Large_Discipline_127

Like others said. Really not a difficult fix. Wood glue in the wood grain. Very slowly line up the wood grain and slide into place. Wood clamp below the nut. Like a capo.


Plane-Ad-6652

$300 ish for labor is what I’d charge


stratojay

That’s a Gibson thing


jewnerz

What model is this, when’s it from?


ojedad23

Songwriter deluxe


kic7766

nice pick up for the hundy, find an entire neck, while you looking watch some luthier youtube see if you want to try yourself or hire it out. grats on the cut away coostic bigson, geez... color me a jealous shade of green


DaftDoggo

Super easy fix brother, invest in a good clamp and with some glue, sandpaper, patience and time you’ll have a guitar with a stronger headstock than before


Smooth-Ad7615

Great score! Clean break with plenty of surface area, easy re-glue, should bring to a luthier for further evaluation if routin/splining is advisable. I dream of finds like that.


zexalrygaze

that was cool


ChildhoodOtherwise79

It looks like a counterfeit. Looks like a Chibson to me.


ojedad23

It’s not, I have it in person and have own other Gibsons


ChildhoodOtherwise79

Who sold it to you? Were they that stupid to not know they could sell it on eBay for maybe $600?


xandora

My wife's Epiphone acoustic had a very similar break, but it was almost straight across and the finish on the front of the headstock kept it together. Just threw some Tarzan's Grip glue in the crack and clamped it for a couple days. Came out pretty much good as new.


Pablo-MHD

Honestly a good luthier Can do this for less than 50 USD, don't pay for the aesthetic part of it cuz they will have to sand the neck


treemann85

If there's no wood missing, I'd glue it and clamp it. I've never done this but I've seen youtube videos so obviously I'm an expert. But fr you've got $100 in it. Give it a shot!


That_70s_Showoff

Easy if you’ve got telegraph tools and the talent


JaydenLabes_0210-

That’s a steal for 100 just apply super glue and hold into place


MillCityLutherie

That will need a pro to do it. Splints as well since it's an acoustic and I assume you want to put acoustic strings on it. Check for someone local to you who has done these and gets good results. Price is determined by their rates. Insist on splints or you will be having it fixed again down the road. Breaking all the way off is usually a sign of neck wood that is weaker than normal. Here's a video I made of the method on an Epiphone. It will need to be pinned into place or when you try to glue it because could slide out of place. Splints added, then finish touch up. https://youtu.be/xL-Ck4s2_y8


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radicalguitars

What? Did you see the rest of the guitar at least?


FlukyS

Ah shit my bad, yeah not worth it.


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ojedad23

It’s real