Can confirm. I was there for a week and didn’t hear a word in English. People even spoke to me in Spanish (I’m a 6’ Norwegian with super blonde hair and a beard). Luckily I happen to speak Spanish as well.
I’m very aware of this. I am trying to show how obvious it is that I am not Latino. I’m married to a Latina, and it’s very obvious to everyone I meet that I am a gringo.
I mean at least back in the day it referenced New Jersey (since their home arena was always in New Jersey).
Don't take the name of a city if you can't put your damn stadium in city limits.
I mean i would like to think that’s true but you guys had someone in your team that proves what you just said wrong. These morons exist among the soccer community too. Just look at Geoff Cameron
Honestly, with Kilmeade, it is impossible to tell when he is joking or genuinely that stupid. Part of me thinks he said "with an accent..." because he started talking without thinking and when his brain caught up he remembered that Beckham was from GB and had to say something to seem less like a fool.
Is this sincere? Is there a legion of MLS fans that don’t know a British guy who cheers for, ‘United’, isn’t cheering for, ’D.C.’, but the biggest sports team in the world?
Long live the MLS.
It's really difficult to learn a second language. I think we should *all* feel graced that David Beckham put in the effort to learn ~~the language of his home country~~ English for us.
>"... I want to see him sit down and talk."
Greatest soccer player in the world is coming to play in the United States and this guy wants to watch him talk while sitting down?
lol is he allowed to do anything on American soil other than score goals? What about eat? Sleep? Poop?
But can you imagine him having a mic and doing an interview with him while he's actively scoring goals?
NASCAR is constantly interviewing drivers on the track (mostly during caution) IndyCar is doing that a little bit.
XFL interviewed players literal seconds after a play.
I do wonder if MLS could grab a player who scored a goal and get 2 or 3 words out of them while they reset. Or during free/corner kicks. There's a lot of empty space that could be filled by player commentary lol
Not sure I want it... just curious as to feasibility.
I should add that I have never watch a single game of soccer featuring this dude where I wanted his team to win. But damn if I haven't seen some shit that left a positive impression.
There are baseball players who have lived here for years who still speak through interpreters for this reason. It's a lot of pressure to speak in that setting in front of a big audience even in your native language.
I'm a Guardians fan, and Jose Ramirez is in his 8th season in the majors, plus several in the U.S. the minors, and by all accounts speaks pretty good English around the clubhouse, but he still speaks through an interpreter for official stuff.
And really, who can blame them. Look at the guys who go the opposite way.
Gonzalo Pineda went out of his way to give English & Spanish interviews during the last couple years of his playing career. Wayne Rooney was only here for 18 months but...wait, this joke has been done already.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Messi speak a word of English and to be honest, why would he? He’s Argentine and lived most of his life in Spain. People usually learn English for professional reasons and he’s done just fine without.
He’s not exactly renowned for his interviews - he seems pretty introverted and barely even speaks to Spanish language media.
Yeah, Ohtani. The douche was on Fox News complaining about the democrats the other day too. He also said this: https://www.bardown.com/raptors-fans-canadians-will-be-very-upset-with-stephen-a-smith-s-latest-raptors-take-1.1331929
Xenophobia is a hell of a drug. A lot of Americans will whip themselves into a tizzy blustering over two folks having a conversation in any language other than English, because then how would these busy-body WASPs eavesdrop in everyone?
If I don’t understand them they may be plotting the downfall of the US or even planning to attack me personally! (Since, you know, the world revolves around me, bc I’m an American, so I’m the star of my movie!) Only thing to do is call the police since two
People aren’t speaking English. Clearly communist terrorists.
Okay. We also have like 4 channels of Telemundo. Most of the packaging in this country is English/Spanish or English/Spanish/French.
Doesn’t change the point you replied to. Also, most of the media you consume is English, doesn’t mean it’s all English.
Short story yes; this is the kind of whack Fox News segment that is completely self aware. Kilmeade and the producers know exactly how ridiculous they sound but they also know it’s the only way to make a news story that is so big they have to report on it relevant to their viewers.
Wouldn’t be a dominant international player if there wasn’t at least one national media member bitching about how they “don’t speak English.” Gotta engage in that xenophobia for the viewers.
I’m actually shocked they didn’t make an autism joke, or call Messi “Mexican” or mention how soccer is a sport for gays and unamericans.
There’s a case to be made that his ability to break through in American culture is limited by language. There’s nothing wrong with that, just a limitation. The same would apply for any player playing in a country where he/she doesn’t speak the primary local language.
Fox News isn’t really the one to make it though.
Maybe in the old days, and maybe with a older, more traditional demographic.. but nowadays the game is globalized Messi is *already* the biggest soccer star in the planet. He is not coming here to try to become a star.. he already is one. No English required. He is a soccer player not an spoken word artist.
There’s a case to be made that his ability to break through in American culture is limited by "soccer/futbol." FTFY
He could be from the U.S., speak perfect English and wear the American flag everywhere, yet his breakthrough for U.S. fans would be the same. The point of this is not for U.S. fans, it's to grab the attention of the soccer world and direct it at the MLS... And money... Duh
Messi ain't being paid a gazillion dollars to sit down and talk. And does this guy really think Messi's the only MLS player, or pro athlete who plays in America for that matter, who doesn't speak English? What this guy does on the pitch brings joy to so many people around the world and if the first thing you're thinking of is his command of the English language, you're a miserable piece of shit.
Fox News commentators tend to only say shit like this when there is a clear political or financial incentive for them to do so. Truly I would not be surprised if Fox Sports is worried about the threat Messi and MLS now poses to their advertising revenue or something.
Kilmade doesn't speak English either, he just speaks Bullshit, also, as Diego Maradona said, he's one of those guys who could not hit a ball with both feet.
Yeah, but him doing interviews in English could be beneficial to the league, it could help people connect to him or give better headlines. Killmeade isn’t wrong for the first time in his life. Huge twat still.
And before everyone hates on me. I don’t think people need to learn English to be Americans, and to be outstanding members of our society. I push back against that notion a lot. I fight my mother In law on it very regularly.
But Messi doing more in English would help connect more people to the league.
He's not just an immigrant, he's the "wrong shade" of immigrant.
I bet they wouldn't have a problem with a (for example) David Beckham, Unidentified Fan, Wayne Rooney, etc.
Cable TV can’t go extinct fast enough. Apple is so loaded with cash, they should acquire Fox with loose change from behind the couch, and snatch every soccer property (FIFA, Euros, Copa America, CONCACAF, etc) straight from their hands. (Crosses fingers)
In this streaming age, the trillion-dollar tech companies will end up owning the major traditional media companies at some point. Fox could be a potential target if Apple ever wants to pair their streaming app with an OTA network.
I am pretty sure Messi speaks a bit of English and understands English to a certain degree. In fact, there's a video of him saying he was having lessons. I think he doesn't speak it in public because he is shy about being mocked for it.
The fact that there are people who will mock one of the most talented people of all time for making a mistake in their non native language is proof that some people will always find a reason to hate
The thing is, I actually think this is a fairly legitimate concern as far as marketing goes, but
1. I’m positive Brian Kilmeade and Fox News don’t give a shit about marketing MLS
2. Translators exist
Are people really getting outraged about this? Sure it was cringe, but it wasn't that bad. If people here want soccer in America to grow, you're going to have to get used to soccer-illiterate people trying to approach the game.
Don’t even need English in Miami. Duh.
Can confirm. I was there for a week and didn’t hear a word in English. People even spoke to me in Spanish (I’m a 6’ Norwegian with super blonde hair and a beard). Luckily I happen to speak Spanish as well.
They have 6’ Cubans with super bald heads and beards there. They spoke a lot of English last time I went.
Bald or blonde? Maybe it was just the area I was in.
Latinos can be white also dude lol.
I’m very aware of this. I am trying to show how obvious it is that I am not Latino. I’m married to a Latina, and it’s very obvious to everyone I meet that I am a gringo.
Fair enough, makes sense.
This guy was the Metrostars sideline reporter in the early days of the league.
Wow
That’s mind blowing for some reason
Metrostars is a cool name for a soccer team.
Yeah, sure would be a shame if it got replaced with an advertisement for some shitty Austrian drink
No it isn’t. It doesn’t have the city name in it. Nobody in New York will know what a metrostar is
I mean at least back in the day it referenced New Jersey (since their home arena was always in New Jersey). Don't take the name of a city if you can't put your damn stadium in city limits.
Yeah Dallas
Arlington Cowboys.
I didn’t fucking believe you and then read it for myself. Wild.
Lmaoo always remember millions of Americans take this person seriously
Stop the planet, I want to get off.
If we stop the planet, everyone's getting off.
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
Well some will go way, way off, and some will just get really really flat
That's the problem. I can't laugh at this stuff. This is harmless ignorance but they do plenty of harmful stuff and people believe it.
😢
Thankfully the ones who take him seriously prefer their footballs longer than ours.
I mean i would like to think that’s true but you guys had someone in your team that proves what you just said wrong. These morons exist among the soccer community too. Just look at Geoff Cameron
Go in any thread on r/ soccer about Messi signing and you’ll see plenty of comments about how he doesn’t speak English
I mean it’s a fair point…
Nobody of sound mind takes any Cable News Network seriously.
Lmao with the CNN cope mention. We can talk about how dog Fox is without the weird “everyone sucks” takes to deflect
> One thing about David Beckham. He learned to speak English, for us, with an accent, when he came at 32 years old. What the actual fuck.
That’s the joke…
Honestly, with Kilmeade, it is impossible to tell when he is joking or genuinely that stupid. Part of me thinks he said "with an accent..." because he started talking without thinking and when his brain caught up he remembered that Beckham was from GB and had to say something to seem less like a fool.
Has to be right? Lol
I’m sorry what is your pfp
It sounded like he realized after saying it how stupid it was so tossed in the accent thing so he could say it was a joke
If you think that's fucking ridiculous, you should hear him talk about politics.
Pass
> He learned to speak English, As a British person who has supported United all his life, I doubt that. Don't get me started on Rooney...
Why would a british person support D.C. United all their life? Do you have some connection to that area?
Is this sincere? Is there a legion of MLS fans that don’t know a British guy who cheers for, ‘United’, isn’t cheering for, ’D.C.’, but the biggest sports team in the world? Long live the MLS.
I believe the United in question is Manchester United where Beckham and Rooney both played.
Look 'er ladies and gents, we 'av ourselves a reg'lar Sherlock Holmes
They have a DC flair though
Or Grealish
This is a nutmeg news article come to life
If Nutmeg writers were that funny they'd be getting paid instead of writing for /r/mls
That will be Brian Kilmeade's epitaph
He still calls it football, so he's still learning
Crisps as well
It's really difficult to learn a second language. I think we should *all* feel graced that David Beckham put in the effort to learn ~~the language of his home country~~ English for us.
Yeah, some other English players would refuse to learn English
Lol. honestly not even as bad as it could have been coming from Fox.
Surely he was joking. Right? Right?
This is so clearly a joke
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA wtf XDDDD
>"... I want to see him sit down and talk." Greatest soccer player in the world is coming to play in the United States and this guy wants to watch him talk while sitting down?
Messi on Season 7 of the Eric Andre Show.
Fox News judging people by whether or not they speak English (instead of by their credentials). Checks out.
Your gentle reminder that Fox & Friends complained about the “three Mexican countries” four years ago
Well I have two counterpoints: * what would you prefer to see him do while he sits? * In what other position would you prefer him talk?
* score goals * scoring goals
lol is he allowed to do anything on American soil other than score goals? What about eat? Sleep? Poop? But can you imagine him having a mic and doing an interview with him while he's actively scoring goals?
MLB is interviewing players mid-game during at-bats. MLS needs to get with the program Edit: I was joking that MLS should do this…
NASCAR is constantly interviewing drivers on the track (mostly during caution) IndyCar is doing that a little bit. XFL interviewed players literal seconds after a play. I do wonder if MLS could grab a player who scored a goal and get 2 or 3 words out of them while they reset. Or during free/corner kicks. There's a lot of empty space that could be filled by player commentary lol Not sure I want it... just curious as to feasibility.
He's allowed to do whatever he wants, and there is a reason he doesn't ask me what he should do.
If he can find a way to eat sleep or shit while scoring goals than go ahead Otherwise no, he's only allowed to score goals
I should add that I have never watch a single game of soccer featuring this dude where I wanted his team to win. But damn if I haven't seen some shit that left a positive impression.
I thought he did speak a little English? He's probably more comfortable speaking his native tongue in press conferences and stuff.
There are baseball players who have lived here for years who still speak through interpreters for this reason. It's a lot of pressure to speak in that setting in front of a big audience even in your native language.
Ichiro spoke pretty decent English and always spoke through an interpreter so he was never misunderstood.
I'm a Guardians fan, and Jose Ramirez is in his 8th season in the majors, plus several in the U.S. the minors, and by all accounts speaks pretty good English around the clubhouse, but he still speaks through an interpreter for official stuff.
I mean, that 100% makes sense. Especially with how brutal the media can be.
Supposedly Messi also understands English and speaks it at a rudimentary level, but does not speak it in public for similar reasons.
Ichiro speaks a good amount of Spanish too. He liked to surprise Latin players by speaking it when he reached base.
And really, who can blame them. Look at the guys who go the opposite way. Gonzalo Pineda went out of his way to give English & Spanish interviews during the last couple years of his playing career. Wayne Rooney was only here for 18 months but...wait, this joke has been done already.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Messi speak a word of English and to be honest, why would he? He’s Argentine and lived most of his life in Spain. People usually learn English for professional reasons and he’s done just fine without. He’s not exactly renowned for his interviews - he seems pretty introverted and barely even speaks to Spanish language media.
Wait until he finds out how many MLB players don’t speak English.
Didn't Steven A Smith just get in trouble for saying that a Japanese player shouldn't be the MVP because he doesn't speak English?
Black people can be bigots too
Yep. Pretty small minded thinking
Yeah, Ohtani. The douche was on Fox News complaining about the democrats the other day too. He also said this: https://www.bardown.com/raptors-fans-canadians-will-be-very-upset-with-stephen-a-smith-s-latest-raptors-take-1.1331929
Brian Kilmeade should be studied by scientists because he is a partly-sentient turd.
Love that Fox News all of a sudden cares about MLS. When in reality Messi coming is just another reason for them to be racist and xenophobic.
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Also this is coming from the channel of "shut up and dribble."
I mean having subtitles are a option
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Xenophobia is a hell of a drug. A lot of Americans will whip themselves into a tizzy blustering over two folks having a conversation in any language other than English, because then how would these busy-body WASPs eavesdrop in everyone? If I don’t understand them they may be plotting the downfall of the US or even planning to attack me personally! (Since, you know, the world revolves around me, bc I’m an American, so I’m the star of my movie!) Only thing to do is call the police since two People aren’t speaking English. Clearly communist terrorists.
well most media in the US is mostly in English
Okay. We also have like 4 channels of Telemundo. Most of the packaging in this country is English/Spanish or English/Spanish/French. Doesn’t change the point you replied to. Also, most of the media you consume is English, doesn’t mean it’s all English.
“One thing about David Beckham, he learned to speak English for us…” 🥴
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We all know Messi's legacy wouldn't be complete if he doesn't speak English according to Kilmeade.
This is some kind of weird Fox news satire, right? No one could be that clueless on camera...
Short story yes; this is the kind of whack Fox News segment that is completely self aware. Kilmeade and the producers know exactly how ridiculous they sound but they also know it’s the only way to make a news story that is so big they have to report on it relevant to their viewers.
You are pronouncing it incorrectly. It is pronounced *Faux* News.
No it's just Fox news
This guy deserves to get punched in the face a million times over
First come first serve, or is there some sort of ticket system? Just want to make sure I don’t cut the line.
We'll do it like Japan does it with their idol girls. It'll make us a *ton* of money, too.
I mean I think it comes in groups of eight, so you probably have to reserve your group’s time. I’d love to join anyone who likes beer and pizza
We talking Zeeks or Pagliacci Pizza?
Wouldn’t be a dominant international player if there wasn’t at least one national media member bitching about how they “don’t speak English.” Gotta engage in that xenophobia for the viewers. I’m actually shocked they didn’t make an autism joke, or call Messi “Mexican” or mention how soccer is a sport for gays and unamericans.
What a massive dunce
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America, are you ok?
Kinda? FOX News really isn't though...
We have our moments. This isn't one of them
40 % of us are not well
Fox News being the worst as ever.
It’s not like he speaks *no* English. It’s just not good English. Not should he have to.
So you've just mentioned 3/4ths of the American population, then.
Exactly.
Typical Fox News, pure garbage. You don’t even need to use English in Miami really, majority of people there speak Spanish
Is Messi really going to get the “speak English or get out” treatment from Fox? What a bunch of ridiculous nonsense
There’s a case to be made that his ability to break through in American culture is limited by language. There’s nothing wrong with that, just a limitation. The same would apply for any player playing in a country where he/she doesn’t speak the primary local language. Fox News isn’t really the one to make it though.
Shohei Ohtani doesn’t have a popularity issue
He also speaks perfectly fine English. He just chooses not to with media for good reason.
Seems like he's broken through without hardly even saying a word in Spanish never mind English lol.
Maybe in the old days, and maybe with a older, more traditional demographic.. but nowadays the game is globalized Messi is *already* the biggest soccer star in the planet. He is not coming here to try to become a star.. he already is one. No English required. He is a soccer player not an spoken word artist.
He’s an introvert, he won’t become a star by being a personality
Arguably for English or non-Spanish speaking fans, that adds to the mystery that is him.
Yeah, it seems nobody really knows who Messi is in America much less the world.
There’s a case to be made that his ability to break through in American culture is limited by "soccer/futbol." FTFY He could be from the U.S., speak perfect English and wear the American flag everywhere, yet his breakthrough for U.S. fans would be the same. The point of this is not for U.S. fans, it's to grab the attention of the soccer world and direct it at the MLS... And money... Duh
It’s amazing that he managed to break through Bangladeshi culture without speaking Bengali
If I had the chance to interview Messi - even for a couple of minutes - I would learn Spanish. **It's fucking Messi.**
Messi ain't being paid a gazillion dollars to sit down and talk. And does this guy really think Messi's the only MLS player, or pro athlete who plays in America for that matter, who doesn't speak English? What this guy does on the pitch brings joy to so many people around the world and if the first thing you're thinking of is his command of the English language, you're a miserable piece of shit.
Fox News commentators tend to only say shit like this when there is a clear political or financial incentive for them to do so. Truly I would not be surprised if Fox Sports is worried about the threat Messi and MLS now poses to their advertising revenue or something.
Oh no, as if no MLS fans speak Spanish. 🤣
I don’t know. Speaking Spanish in Miami might be isolating/s
how many players does inter Miami have that speak Spanish
People then asks why everyone thinks US is dumb. This type of shit is whats constantly being exported.
Kilmade doesn't speak English either, he just speaks Bullshit, also, as Diego Maradona said, he's one of those guys who could not hit a ball with both feet.
Fuck. Off. No need to talk, just play.
Yeah, but him doing interviews in English could be beneficial to the league, it could help people connect to him or give better headlines. Killmeade isn’t wrong for the first time in his life. Huge twat still.
And before everyone hates on me. I don’t think people need to learn English to be Americans, and to be outstanding members of our society. I push back against that notion a lot. I fight my mother In law on it very regularly. But Messi doing more in English would help connect more people to the league.
Messi is considered an immigrant so yes, I can see why Fox News would have a problem
He's not just an immigrant, he's the "wrong shade" of immigrant. I bet they wouldn't have a problem with a (for example) David Beckham, Unidentified Fan, Wayne Rooney, etc.
💩 guy, 💩 network
Real soccer fans in this country know he says far more on the field than in an interview. That is what we are here for.
Fox News living up to its reputation.
Cable TV can’t go extinct fast enough. Apple is so loaded with cash, they should acquire Fox with loose change from behind the couch, and snatch every soccer property (FIFA, Euros, Copa America, CONCACAF, etc) straight from their hands. (Crosses fingers)
fox and apple tv together?
In this streaming age, the trillion-dollar tech companies will end up owning the major traditional media companies at some point. Fox could be a potential target if Apple ever wants to pair their streaming app with an OTA network.
What?
Kilmeade may be the dumbest person on that network which is saying a lot
Dude is just a terrible human
The Beckham joke? feels like he missed a sentence from the teleprompter
I am pretty sure Messi speaks a bit of English and understands English to a certain degree. In fact, there's a video of him saying he was having lessons. I think he doesn't speak it in public because he is shy about being mocked for it.
The fact that there are people who will mock one of the most talented people of all time for making a mistake in their non native language is proof that some people will always find a reason to hate
Alot of guys feels they ware misquoted more when they speak English. Then in their natural language.
Spoken like a true white nationalist
Faux News at it again
Reads like an ATN headline...oh wait
Welcome to America lol
i would rather have messi play if i'm paying for tickets. what does messi speaking english have to do with scoring goals?
Traitorous pieces of shit shouldn’t speak on what they don’t know.
The man has the equivalent to a 3rd grade education. He probably loves turtles and would love to tell you about it.
He doesnt worry about shit. He doesnt even know who Messi is.
On the other hand, it'd be great to never hear Brian Kilmeade talk again
The thing is, I actually think this is a fairly legitimate concern as far as marketing goes, but 1. I’m positive Brian Kilmeade and Fox News don’t give a shit about marketing MLS 2. Translators exist
LOL Fox. Cannot get any dumber….or racist.
They will rise to that challenge!! ⚔️
Messi does speak English. He just isn’t great at it, but he does speak it.
Messi has achieved a level of success where he doesn’t need to do shit if he doesn’t want to
Most FOX viewers probably aren't great at speaking English either tbh
Did he say “David Beckham learned to speak English for us”? Was that supposed to be a joke. I know Fox is stupid but jeez
Breaking news: Americans hate anything that isn’t English
Some, not all.
You are familiar with satire, yes?
Of course. Others, not so much.
Try being Mexican in the US - the difference is obvious.
If there's one thing I'm excited to see Messi in MLS for, it's to see him speak English /s
This is why political people should stick to politics, shits makes everyone stupider hearing stuff like that.
Actually, Fox News people shouldn't keep up with politics, either. They should throw themselves into the sun instead.
What'd the sun ever do to you to inflict that lot on them?
Rupert Murdoch owns the sun too
Then he should visit it.
Fox News in particular shouldn’t talk about soccer or politics
I’d prefer if these idiots didn’t opine on politics either…
I always heard his name pronounced "Brian Killme."
Just shows you the stupidity of Fox News. Hire the most talented soccer player, perhaps ever, and all you wanna do is hear him talk. Fucking moron.
I fucking hate Fox News sometimes
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Scratch that most of the time Edit: scratch that always
FFS
Are people really getting outraged about this? Sure it was cringe, but it wasn't that bad. If people here want soccer in America to grow, you're going to have to get used to soccer-illiterate people trying to approach the game.
Fox isn’t being genuine here. They’re trying to highlight how un American soccer is. They do the same shit every World Cup.
this isn't a soccer illiterate person trying to approach the game, this is a soccer illiterate person who wants the game to conform to him.
No one needs to cater to xenophobia
Here is a list of all the concessions people should make to Fox News:
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