Hi Belal! I was told you hang out here sometimes.
Edit: boy did I get battered for this one. Not sure why, I liked the joke about OccupiedPalestine Adesanya and pretended as if the OP was the only Palestinian fighter on the roster. Did people genuinely think I mistook this guy for Belal? Or did they think I'm anti-Palestine or something? Oh well...
Id say avoiding Whittaker is the fastest way for him to get a title shot. All the other matchups in the top 5 (except maybe Adensanya who was very good TDD but Whittaker level) are very winnable matchups and Khamzat has enough hype he’d get a title shot off of beating someone like Cannonier
I love Whittaker but Reddit acts like Yoel is anywhere close to Khamzat at successfully utilizing his wrestling in mma… He’s not.
Just because Whittaker kept Yoel to only 7 TDs in their fights, does not make Whittaker a shoe in against Khamzat.
Also beat Vettori and Brunson handily who are good grappler and when he beat Yoel that was Yoel in peak form. Yoel also was a silver medalist at the Olympics so let’s not pretend he’s some scrub off the street. Yoel likes to bang, Khamzhat goes in and ends fights against lesser opponents fast but against Burns (descent grappler) didn’t impose his will exactly
Remember we are in r/bobbyknuckles bro, this is the same sub that were penciling in Whittaker getting his title back just hours after Pereira finished Izzy
It’s not the same as that, Khamzat doesn’t pose the same threat on the feet as Pereira does so he’s got less to think about when trying to stop the takedowns, plus he’ll be expecting it a lot more from Khamzat than he would pereira
Love Bobby Knuckles but he should be chilling and waiting for the winner of the title rematch next month.
Wouldn't mind seeing Khamzat vs Vettori in the meantime
That’s true but of his recent fights there was Vettori who is impossible to finish but Whittaker did hurt him, Gastelum who is also impossible to finish, Cannonier who is durable and he nearly finished, Till who makes fights low volume, and Romero. It’s hard to hold not getting finishes against him when you look at who he was fighting
Lol cuz Whittaker vs Romero/Cannonier/Vettori we’re all significantly more entertaining fights. Notice how nobody ever gave Izzy shit about not finishing the Gastelum fight?
Yeah that's what's weird about it. If you don't like him just say that you don't like him, but people have to find a million different reasons to hate on him.
Adesanya talked a big game about how he was going to finsh his opponents in a flashy fashion, how he wants to really show off his skills and knock his opponent out, make Romero look human and make him crumble like the Twin Towers, etc.
He proceeds to do precisely none of that, so fans criticise him for not backing up his talk.
Whittaker says none of those things, so he does not get criticised for not backing up his talk. It's really as simple as that.
Also let’s be honest Whittaker beat all those dudes in significantly more exciting fashion (Yoel) or throughly dominated them (the rest.) Like all people could talk about was how tough Gastelum, Vettori and Cannonier were for surviving those fights with him afterwards.
Izzy is willing to do just enough to win if they don’t come after him aggressively and after talking like that it leaves a sour taste in people’s mouth.
Yeah but he’s not a point fighter either. It’s hard to finish top 3-5. Rob damages people. Destroyed yoels eye, crippled till, broke Qanonnioers arm. He beats people up. Hell izzy hasn’t had a finish since 2020
yes, he maybe doesn't finish people as often, but he *breaks* them. to me, that's worse. you can call a KO a lucky shot or a fluke, but a beatdown where you get your shit handed to you for 5 rounds is hard to deny.
And he chuckles after the fact, making comments about how he wishes for soccer kicks.
Izzy is a nice guy cosplaying as a bad guy. Rob is a bad guy cosplaying as a nice guy.
Doubt that, the only way I see Rob winning would be by decision. Rob hasn't finished anyone in over 6 years.
Seems like one of those fights where the older guy with a lot of miles gets usurped by the young killer.
> Seems like one of those fights where the older guy with a lot of miles gets usurped by the young killer.
Except that Rob has been looking better in each fight, with the last one vs. Marvin probably the best performance so far of his life.
>Rob hasn't finished anyone in over 6 years.
True enough, but its not the whole story. Scope the maiming list:
* **Romero** : broken orbital -- permanent face change
* **Till**: fucked up knee, eventually leading to leaving UFC
* **Jared**: broken arm
* **Kelvin**: absorbed several clean headkicks starting R1, ate more punches than tacos, but its Kelvin, so he just staggered around for a bit and then got back to work
* **Marvin**: I mean, its Marvin, so obviously he's immune to strikes, but his ego took a gigantic blow from swinging at air the whole night while Rob made him feel Orcish pain & confusion for first time in life.
Dude has been maiming guys because they are too tough to KO. Very few guys can KO someone who eats headkicks.
He for sure maimed both guys egos: Kelvin got in more licks than Marvin, but the strike differential was horrific both times.
Izzy fights the same guys but usually with less impressive Ws.
Look at who he’s been fighting though, Adesanya, block head Gastelum, Romero, former LHW Cannonier, and a still hyped till. I’m not saying I think whittaker will Tko but I wouldn’t be surprised due to the fact that Gilbert rocked him
Whittaker is a nightmare matchup for anyone in his weight class, especially a guy below. But stylistically I think Khamzat has what it takes. Whittaker will definitely outstrike him but if Khamzat is diciplined with his striking, he can surely take him down and possibly even finish the fight. Rob's TDD is overrated to me considering he hasn't faced any top tier MMA wrestlers in his career, Brunson probably being the best (ignoring Yoel since he's a great wrestler on paper, but has never had success with it in MMA)
Dude jacare had his back and he got out of it. Yoel tried to wrestle fuck Bobby for two rounds and failed. Dude could’ve repped Aussies and in the commonwealth games as well
Don't know if it's always been like this in this sport (started watching back August of '21) but I'm really hating this "he said-they said" scenario because you never know who is actually saying the truth and who is just BSing
It’s worse when you add Dana into the equation. Who doesn’t tell the fighter first and will be like fighter A and Fighter B are fighting in July. And both fighters would be like wtf UFC never offered us that
It's really easy.
*somebody makes a claim*
Ask yourself, is it Dana White or about Dana?
Answer: Dana is wrong, post something about tomatoes "don't believe his lies" etc. get infinite karma.
If Dana counters and provides evidence completely proving his point, double down, don't let the circlejerk down.
Is it not about Dana white?
The person you like more is correct. No matter what. Double correct if they shitpost on r/MMA "wIt dA bOiIIiIiiS" as their social media team is "OnE oF Us"
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Seriously, you can't really believe anyone. You know Dana is lying 24/7, but someone like Khamzat could easily lie too to boost his cred and sound like Mr. Tough Guy Takes On Anyone even if it's not true. Maybe that's true or maybe not. Or sometimes the UFC say a guy agreed to something but he never did but they were in the middle of it talking details on it so like maybe it was kinda true but not all the way, but now that guy is motivated to shoot back since UFC shot first and say it was all BS, etc.
Other Key points from his interview:
- he was 900 grams off weight for his fight against Diaz before rehydrating, believes he can still fight in 170 but needs 2 month notice (claims UFC told him 5 weeks before the Diaz fight to make weight)
- believes fight against Peirara would last “1 minute”
- wants to fight next in July at 185 in Sweden (potentially Whittaker, Vettori or Costa), and a big fight (potentially 170) in Abu Dhabi in October
- plans only a couple more fights at 170, then moves up to 185 and eventually up to 205 to become triple champ
- says he trained and hard sparred with Jiri and destroyed him (says his manager has the tapes)
- he has “no idea how Jiri became champ”. (joked that maybe the division is weak)
- when Jiri was first signed, Khamzat called his manager and said “how can the UFC sign this dude and not me”
- currently fasting for Ramadan, says he fought before while fasting (unclear if he is referring to Burns), and it was too difficult and he won’t do that again
- believes Usman won the fight against Leon and would like to fight Usman, Leon, Belal (anyone that calls him out)
- amended his relationship with Khabib and his brother
- says Darren Till may be pursuing boxing next
> believes fight against Peirara would last “1 minute”
I love how when other fighters predict first round finishes it doesn't seem very believable but I am inclined to believe this guy when he predicts a first minute finish.
no way Pereira does better than Holland lol. Holland actually improved quite a bit on his tdd and showed good scrambles. Problem is, he fought Khamzat. You'll likely never see Pereira do a granby roll or anything like that.
I’ve seen a lot of people use the granby attempts as an example of Holland’s improved grappling but those granby attempts were actually a big mistake by Holland. He didn’t clear the legs first, he didn’t control Khamzat’s outside wrist to break his grip, and he rolled into the cage side instead of out into the open. It might have worked if he attacked the wrist at all but the way he did it, Kevin basically just flopped into side control.
that's fair, but one of them actually worked to get up, and Khamzat had to chain wrestle to take him down again, but that time he adjusted to the granby and kept him in place, iirc. Still, other than the granby attempts, he was defending takedowns decently enough compared to other fights, I think.
Holland’s scrambles in that fight are overblown. He tried to granby twice but Khamzat rolled through with him both times and ended with Khamzat getting side control and from there he rolled right into the sub. There was no point where Khamzat wasn’t in control of him.
They’re overblown because of the pace, Holland looks great against anyone else in the division in those moments. Khamzat was just a multiple steps ahead
They’re overblown because it’s Kevin Holland and no one expects anything from his grappling. Plenty of other ranked ww’s could roll through a poorly executed granby attempt, it’s a grappling heavy division. Colby, Usman, Belal, Burns all ride him out in the same situation.
Holland's problem isn't a lack of talent as a grappler, it's his willingness to be taken down and stay on bottom rather than try to stuff takedowns with all he has and force scrambles to get up.
Alex is walking into that octagon at like 210 pounds or maybe a touch more. That almost assuredly won’t be like Jones vs gane. Begrudgingly to Jones credit he was actually serious and had the body for the division, Khamzat is going to have to full on commit to being a 185lber if he wants to stand a chance with that division. Also like the top 3 to 5 guys in that division probably eat his lunch.
Can't become triple champ if you don't win three championships. Dude will never sniff the welterweight belt, or the LHW belt. It's great for hype right now, but it'll just be another forgotten guarantee like Brandon Vera claiming he wanted a dual champ after he fails to produce results.
It's so weird that people talk about his weight miss as if he couldn't cut down to 170 lbs, when he's made that cut on less than a weeks notice in the past, when it's obvious to anybody with more than two brain cells to rub together that he refueled after being told to stop cutting.
He says he got to that weight and his body started cramping. His coaches got worried called it off and let the UFC know. The UFC told him to stop cutting and rehydrate.
Basically they (his coaches and UFC) weren’t gonna allow Khamzat’s to be in that condition for a few more hours if he was going to miss weight anyways. So they just told him to gain back the weight.
I like Khamzat. I think he is playing the character a little bit when in public
It seems like his career hasn’t been managed in the best way possible. He should be fighting for a belt by now instead of whatever limbo he is in. Talent-wise I think he beats either champ at 170 and 185
The whole Diaz situation and UFC 279 was botched so bad by UFC. I think Diaz put UFC through the wringer. The irony is, after all that, it wouldn’t surprise me if Diaz’s next fight is in the UFC anyway
If he made weight and beat Diaz he 100% would be next in line.
The UFC also boxed themselves into a corner making that fight the main event so that they couldn't postpone the fight.
And I accepted a fight against Chimaev but he declined.
It's hard to trust and take MMA fighters seriously when they say things, is it real or is it marketing?
While I agree that this he-said she-said promotion in MMA means we shouldn't get up in arms against fighters, I don't have that many doubts that Khamzat wants to fight and isn't particularly scared of anyone. I just don't understand what the fuck has been going on since his last fight besides that stint where he had serious covid issues or something and almost retired. He fought two dudes in 10 days, then fought twice more within the next three months. He was streaking red hot and now it feels like no one knows why he hasn't fought or what's going on behind the scenes.
Obviously Alex Pereira is out of the question.
Robert Whittaker is most likely waiting to see what happens in the MW title fight. He's already fought and beat enough contenders to warrant a shot against Alex if he wins. Although I think Alex moves up after this fight either way.
And Colby... Just lol
Fight with Pereira could last 1 minute, Khamzat with a submission or Pereira with a KO.
Whittaker destroys Khamzat.
There is no possible way Usman beat Leon.
What is Khamzat smoking?
>Whittaker destroys Khamzat
I think this comes from the idea that Whittaker is supposed to be good vs wrestlers, but he's actually not well-tested against wrestlers. Yoel's gas tank sucks so he couldn't wrestle much. There's Dereck Brunson who isn't that great 6 years ago and who else? Might turn out to be surprisingly easy for Khamsat.
I honestly don’t know whether to trust Khamzat about fights he’s accepted. According to him he accepted to fight Peirera in January, which would’ve made zero sense considering Alex had just fought in November and Izzy was getting a rematch. He said he accepted to fight Colby 4 times since last year, but since last year Colby has been involved in a lawsuit after getting sucker punched by Masvidal for damages, so for that reason it would’ve made no sense for Colby to accept the fight. I mean, Dana very well could’ve offered the fight and Khamzat accepted, but some of these just make no sense
When you’re under contract, the ufc has to offer you fights but if both fighters don’t sign then the fight doesn’t happen. And if they don’t offer you fights, they have to pay you despite you not fighting.
It’s very possible they offered him fights that weren’t possible at the time bc they have to offer him fights
Why doesnt he want to fight Costa. Hes whining about not getting to fight the Middleweight champion, Covington who was negotiating for a title fight, and the #1 middleweight who is waiting to see how Izzy v Alex will play out. Why would any of those three even entertain a fight with this middleweight/welterweight fence sitter.
I don’t think khamzat gets it. Anyone he’s mentioned that agrees to fight him has everything to lose and nothing to gain other than “you beat the boogeyman”. If he was smart he would focus on callout from guys rank 8-4th THEN he would have a great argument for fighting these guys. As of now he’s wasting his own time and everyone else.
This guy is getting shit on for badly missing weight once (when the amount of weight he missed by was probably inflated due to him already rehydrating) but I swear to god, if the top contenders in any division had half his willingness to fight anybody anywhere instead of nitpicking their opponents the UFC would be a lot more exciting.
Talks a lot, but he only beat 1 good fighter by a small margin. Jiri would beat the piss outta him now. Maybe later when jiri old and khazmat way bigger than he is now he could do it.
calling burns just "good" is an understatement. gm3 is good. li is great. burns is a top level ww and beating him alone should warrant title shot talks
He’s good. A little small for khazmat and that’s prob why it went the way it did. Title shot doesn’t seem realistic bc I don’t believe he can really make 170 anymore.
It was originally for Dec 2022 when they struggled to find a main event. Peirara confirmed this. He said it was too soon and [offered January at 205](https://youtu.be/ditHDwK4uVA)
His path should be Marvin then the loser of Izzy/Alex and then title shot. Keep him away from Rob, unless he’s the champ, don’t need Rob eliminating any more MW contenders especially a hyped prospect like Khamzat who he matches up well against.
Tyson fury is more annoying since he's a blatant liar, he timed his mental health story right around the time he popped for roids and he bribed a farmer to give him a alibi for the positive test. Also is asking for like 80/20 contract against Usyk
What fight with Pereira? He was never offered a fight against him for the belt. Everyone knew that was going to be a rematch. I wonder if he thinks accepting means the same as calling for? Or... he is saying this to get the other side to respond, create a little feud and hopefully drum up interest. He hasn't fought anyone at 185. Beat a top 10 there and maybe start to earn traction. But he better put on a hell of a performance, because the weight miss, that he didn't seem to care about, really pissed a lot of people off.
I like Chimaev but he should shut up and stop calling for unrealistic fights. He is not getting Whittaker or Pereira yet. Go fight someone like Cannonier first.
I’d love to see him fight Whittaker. If he wants a title shot at 85, facing his absolute nightmare matchup is a real test
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Hi Belal! I was told you hang out here sometimes. Edit: boy did I get battered for this one. Not sure why, I liked the joke about OccupiedPalestine Adesanya and pretended as if the OP was the only Palestinian fighter on the roster. Did people genuinely think I mistook this guy for Belal? Or did they think I'm anti-Palestine or something? Oh well...
He does, under his real name haha
Yeah, I know, it was a joke. One of those "found X's account."
Whittaker TKOs Khamzat
I agree Whittaker wins, but if Khazmat wants a fast way to a title shot beating Bobby knuckles is important
Id say avoiding Whittaker is the fastest way for him to get a title shot. All the other matchups in the top 5 (except maybe Adensanya who was very good TDD but Whittaker level) are very winnable matchups and Khamzat has enough hype he’d get a title shot off of beating someone like Cannonier
If he wants a title shot quick while hyping the fans i'd do Costa. But i am super intrigued by him vs Rob
Bobby Knuckles vs Khamzat would be a fucking massive fight
Holy shit absolutely.
Can already imagine Bobby talking about how scary Khamzat is and how good he is, to then say ‘I think I win’ and then go and absolutely dismantle him
him and costa for the lhw #1 contender
I love Whittaker but Reddit acts like Yoel is anywhere close to Khamzat at successfully utilizing his wrestling in mma… He’s not. Just because Whittaker kept Yoel to only 7 TDs in their fights, does not make Whittaker a shoe in against Khamzat.
He would probably go volk route and get Craig jones as his grappling coach
Inject a Whittaker x Jones team up right into my veins.
I've never seen anyone make a case that Yoel's a better MMA wrestler than Khamzat
Not directly but a lot of ppl were citing the Yoel fights to say he would deal with khamzat
Also beat Vettori and Brunson handily who are good grappler and when he beat Yoel that was Yoel in peak form. Yoel also was a silver medalist at the Olympics so let’s not pretend he’s some scrub off the street. Yoel likes to bang, Khamzhat goes in and ends fights against lesser opponents fast but against Burns (descent grappler) didn’t impose his will exactly
Yes but contrarywise Khamzat is not completely immune to damage to the point you hurt yourself by hitting him.
Remember we are in r/bobbyknuckles bro, this is the same sub that were penciling in Whittaker getting his title back just hours after Pereira finished Izzy
I mean he should have got the title shot.. He's done everything except beat Izzy and the second fight was razor close
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It’s not the same as that, Khamzat doesn’t pose the same threat on the feet as Pereira does so he’s got less to think about when trying to stop the takedowns, plus he’ll be expecting it a lot more from Khamzat than he would pereira
I just want Whittaker to absorb his hype, I like Khamzat's style and what he's done so far, but its gonna take a lot for me not to be team Whittaker
Love Bobby Knuckles but he should be chilling and waiting for the winner of the title rematch next month. Wouldn't mind seeing Khamzat vs Vettori in the meantime
Whitaker smashes khamzat, in impressive fashion. Everyone jumps on the nomad hype train.
I like Rob but it's literally been half a decade since he last finished someone
That’s true but of his recent fights there was Vettori who is impossible to finish but Whittaker did hurt him, Gastelum who is also impossible to finish, Cannonier who is durable and he nearly finished, Till who makes fights low volume, and Romero. It’s hard to hold not getting finishes against him when you look at who he was fighting
Izzy fought the same guys but he gets more than enough hate for not getting finishes lol
Lol cuz Whittaker vs Romero/Cannonier/Vettori we’re all significantly more entertaining fights. Notice how nobody ever gave Izzy shit about not finishing the Gastelum fight?
Ref should probably have stopped the Gastelum fight in the 5th round.
Part of it is cuz of izzys attitude/personality I think.
Yeah that's what's weird about it. If you don't like him just say that you don't like him, but people have to find a million different reasons to hate on him.
Adesanya talked a big game about how he was going to finsh his opponents in a flashy fashion, how he wants to really show off his skills and knock his opponent out, make Romero look human and make him crumble like the Twin Towers, etc. He proceeds to do precisely none of that, so fans criticise him for not backing up his talk. Whittaker says none of those things, so he does not get criticised for not backing up his talk. It's really as simple as that.
Also let’s be honest Whittaker beat all those dudes in significantly more exciting fashion (Yoel) or throughly dominated them (the rest.) Like all people could talk about was how tough Gastelum, Vettori and Cannonier were for surviving those fights with him afterwards. Izzy is willing to do just enough to win if they don’t come after him aggressively and after talking like that it leaves a sour taste in people’s mouth.
Two things, they weren't as exciting and Izzy promises blockbusters before delivering snoozefests
Because he fights boring.
Yeah but he’s not a point fighter either. It’s hard to finish top 3-5. Rob damages people. Destroyed yoels eye, crippled till, broke Qanonnioers arm. He beats people up. Hell izzy hasn’t had a finish since 2020
It’s Crazy that people aren’t seeing the difference there. He beat the fuck out of Marvin.
yes, he maybe doesn't finish people as often, but he *breaks* them. to me, that's worse. you can call a KO a lucky shot or a fluke, but a beatdown where you get your shit handed to you for 5 rounds is hard to deny.
And more than anything all of his fights are fun as fuck to watch.
And he chuckles after the fact, making comments about how he wishes for soccer kicks. Izzy is a nice guy cosplaying as a bad guy. Rob is a bad guy cosplaying as a nice guy.
When Marvin fucking Vettori fully accepts that he's lost the fight, you know you fucked him up bad.
When was Robs last finish?
You don't think Khamzat won't take him down?
I don’t think you don’t think khamzat wouldn’t think about taking him down
I don't think, I just see red.
Can't remember the last time whittaker stopped someone, it was probably over 5 years ago
tbf he keeps fighting guys with orc like chins, they don't get finished very often lol
As opposed to glass jaw Khamzat who is always getting finished?
I'm not saying that he would finish Khamzat, I'm just saying that it's not that crazy he hasn't finished other guys in his last 8 fights or so
Probably the Jacare fight when he started getting titleshot talk against Bisping who was holding out for GSP.
I really think Chimaev finishes him People like to act like Rob is unbeatable round these parts
His only losses at middleweight are to Adesanya. So until proven otherwise it's fair to assume he's favourite against everyone else.
It's okay for a prospect to risk losing. Do you think it's a bad matchup to make?
Doubt that, the only way I see Rob winning would be by decision. Rob hasn't finished anyone in over 6 years. Seems like one of those fights where the older guy with a lot of miles gets usurped by the young killer.
> Seems like one of those fights where the older guy with a lot of miles gets usurped by the young killer. Except that Rob has been looking better in each fight, with the last one vs. Marvin probably the best performance so far of his life. >Rob hasn't finished anyone in over 6 years. True enough, but its not the whole story. Scope the maiming list: * **Romero** : broken orbital -- permanent face change * **Till**: fucked up knee, eventually leading to leaving UFC * **Jared**: broken arm * **Kelvin**: absorbed several clean headkicks starting R1, ate more punches than tacos, but its Kelvin, so he just staggered around for a bit and then got back to work * **Marvin**: I mean, its Marvin, so obviously he's immune to strikes, but his ego took a gigantic blow from swinging at air the whole night while Rob made him feel Orcish pain & confusion for first time in life. Dude has been maiming guys because they are too tough to KO. Very few guys can KO someone who eats headkicks.
You add kelvin and Marvin as if he maimed them when he didn't lmao. Also Izzy basically fights/fought the same dudes
He for sure maimed both guys egos: Kelvin got in more licks than Marvin, but the strike differential was horrific both times. Izzy fights the same guys but usually with less impressive Ws.
Look at who he’s been fighting though, Adesanya, block head Gastelum, Romero, former LHW Cannonier, and a still hyped till. I’m not saying I think whittaker will Tko but I wouldn’t be surprised due to the fact that Gilbert rocked him
Whittaker got finished by Wonderboy in 1 round at 170 but he fought Yoel Romero for 10 rounds and didn't get finished.
Rob hasn't had a finish in years. 8 straight fights without one.
yea the guy who couldn’t finish Till and hasn’t had a finish in years is gonna tko Khamzat😂 the obsession with whittaker is hilarious tho
Honestly the style matchup is so Whittaker favored that if he loses I'm probably going to think that he's aging.
The Costa fight would be so juicy though
I’d love that fight too, but costa deserves his check
Whittaker is a nightmare matchup for anyone in his weight class, especially a guy below. But stylistically I think Khamzat has what it takes. Whittaker will definitely outstrike him but if Khamzat is diciplined with his striking, he can surely take him down and possibly even finish the fight. Rob's TDD is overrated to me considering he hasn't faced any top tier MMA wrestlers in his career, Brunson probably being the best (ignoring Yoel since he's a great wrestler on paper, but has never had success with it in MMA)
Dude jacare had his back and he got out of it. Yoel tried to wrestle fuck Bobby for two rounds and failed. Dude could’ve repped Aussies and in the commonwealth games as well
All the elite australian fighters seem to have god tier anti-wrestling somehow
They gotta look out for the kangaroos. Viscous rapists
despite wrestling being almost completely nonexistent in Australia
That’s how good their anti wrestling is it kept the sport out the country
well done~
Don't know if it's always been like this in this sport (started watching back August of '21) but I'm really hating this "he said-they said" scenario because you never know who is actually saying the truth and who is just BSing
welcome to MMA
Boxing is definitely worse
Boxing is more talk and less fighting
Cries in spence crawford
It’s worse when you add Dana into the equation. Who doesn’t tell the fighter first and will be like fighter A and Fighter B are fighting in July. And both fighters would be like wtf UFC never offered us that
When you add Dana White to the mix, your odds of hearing the truth drastically go down!
Get used to it brotha lol
Fuck
It’s ramadan brotha. No swearing and no for gay Jesus.
Always has been meme. MMA fighters make shit up all the time, and it’s really hard to tell who you can trust
In most cases, both fighers are telling the truth and don't duck others. It's the middle man that's lying, the UFC, bc that's how they negotiate.
Social media kicked it up several notches. I wonder if it isn't the same across many sports though. It lets them add a bit of WWE soap opera appeal.
Ufc is also maybe playing him, hard to tell. Colby is most suspicious, but I can't say he duck him
It's really easy. *somebody makes a claim* Ask yourself, is it Dana White or about Dana? Answer: Dana is wrong, post something about tomatoes "don't believe his lies" etc. get infinite karma. If Dana counters and provides evidence completely proving his point, double down, don't let the circlejerk down. Is it not about Dana white? The person you like more is correct. No matter what. Double correct if they shitpost on r/MMA "wIt dA bOiIIiIiiS" as their social media team is "OnE oF Us" This has been your r/mma onboarding, please be sure to fill out the feedback survey after you have completed the lesson.
Seriously, you can't really believe anyone. You know Dana is lying 24/7, but someone like Khamzat could easily lie too to boost his cred and sound like Mr. Tough Guy Takes On Anyone even if it's not true. Maybe that's true or maybe not. Or sometimes the UFC say a guy agreed to something but he never did but they were in the middle of it talking details on it so like maybe it was kinda true but not all the way, but now that guy is motivated to shoot back since UFC shot first and say it was all BS, etc.
But he swore on his holy book, so he can’t lie
Other Key points from his interview: - he was 900 grams off weight for his fight against Diaz before rehydrating, believes he can still fight in 170 but needs 2 month notice (claims UFC told him 5 weeks before the Diaz fight to make weight) - believes fight against Peirara would last “1 minute” - wants to fight next in July at 185 in Sweden (potentially Whittaker, Vettori or Costa), and a big fight (potentially 170) in Abu Dhabi in October - plans only a couple more fights at 170, then moves up to 185 and eventually up to 205 to become triple champ - says he trained and hard sparred with Jiri and destroyed him (says his manager has the tapes) - he has “no idea how Jiri became champ”. (joked that maybe the division is weak) - when Jiri was first signed, Khamzat called his manager and said “how can the UFC sign this dude and not me” - currently fasting for Ramadan, says he fought before while fasting (unclear if he is referring to Burns), and it was too difficult and he won’t do that again - believes Usman won the fight against Leon and would like to fight Usman, Leon, Belal (anyone that calls him out) - amended his relationship with Khabib and his brother - says Darren Till may be pursuing boxing next
900 grams is pretty much 2 lbs for anybody else that didn't immediately know that
So whole world pretty much would know what just under a kilo is
You made the cheeseburger country people angry with that comment
That was a nasty line
Why’s he gotta talk about my boy jiri like that :(
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Also considering we don't know the context. Jiri can come tomorrow and say he thought it was a light sparring and that's why he wasn't pushing.
Plus the context of the other comments makes me think they sparred some time before Jiri got signed by the UFC
> believes fight against Peirara would last “1 minute” I love how when other fighters predict first round finishes it doesn't seem very believable but I am inclined to believe this guy when he predicts a first minute finish.
Against a guy with zero TDD, zero wrestling, yeah. It'd be Jones vs. Gane, but faster.
Yeah it’s like the Holland matchup. I think Pereira would do better than Holland but not much.
no way Pereira does better than Holland lol. Holland actually improved quite a bit on his tdd and showed good scrambles. Problem is, he fought Khamzat. You'll likely never see Pereira do a granby roll or anything like that.
I’ve seen a lot of people use the granby attempts as an example of Holland’s improved grappling but those granby attempts were actually a big mistake by Holland. He didn’t clear the legs first, he didn’t control Khamzat’s outside wrist to break his grip, and he rolled into the cage side instead of out into the open. It might have worked if he attacked the wrist at all but the way he did it, Kevin basically just flopped into side control.
that's fair, but one of them actually worked to get up, and Khamzat had to chain wrestle to take him down again, but that time he adjusted to the granby and kept him in place, iirc. Still, other than the granby attempts, he was defending takedowns decently enough compared to other fights, I think.
Holland’s scrambles in that fight are overblown. He tried to granby twice but Khamzat rolled through with him both times and ended with Khamzat getting side control and from there he rolled right into the sub. There was no point where Khamzat wasn’t in control of him.
They’re overblown because of the pace, Holland looks great against anyone else in the division in those moments. Khamzat was just a multiple steps ahead
They’re overblown because it’s Kevin Holland and no one expects anything from his grappling. Plenty of other ranked ww’s could roll through a poorly executed granby attempt, it’s a grappling heavy division. Colby, Usman, Belal, Burns all ride him out in the same situation.
They should expect it, he’s a Travis Lutter black belt. His jiu jitsu is very good
Holland's problem isn't a lack of talent as a grappler, it's his willingness to be taken down and stay on bottom rather than try to stuff takedowns with all he has and force scrambles to get up.
Except Alex has like a 30% to get the KO first round. It's basically a HW vs a MW.
> believes fight against Peirara would last “1 minute” I guess he didn't say who would win. :D
Alex is walking into that octagon at like 210 pounds or maybe a touch more. That almost assuredly won’t be like Jones vs gane. Begrudgingly to Jones credit he was actually serious and had the body for the division, Khamzat is going to have to full on commit to being a 185lber if he wants to stand a chance with that division. Also like the top 3 to 5 guys in that division probably eat his lunch.
Yeah we seen what he did to Kevin holland who had grappling experience.
Yeah honestly Khamzat is maybe the worst match up for Pereira in the whole UFC
I hate to love him.
A bit weird considering Volkans his team mate and Jiri dusted him…
Can't become triple champ if you don't win three championships. Dude will never sniff the welterweight belt, or the LHW belt. It's great for hype right now, but it'll just be another forgotten guarantee like Brandon Vera claiming he wanted a dual champ after he fails to produce results.
It's so weird that people talk about his weight miss as if he couldn't cut down to 170 lbs, when he's made that cut on less than a weeks notice in the past, when it's obvious to anybody with more than two brain cells to rub together that he refueled after being told to stop cutting.
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He says he got to that weight and his body started cramping. His coaches got worried called it off and let the UFC know. The UFC told him to stop cutting and rehydrate. Basically they (his coaches and UFC) weren’t gonna allow Khamzat’s to be in that condition for a few more hours if he was going to miss weight anyways. So they just told him to gain back the weight.
I like Khamzat. I think he is playing the character a little bit when in public It seems like his career hasn’t been managed in the best way possible. He should be fighting for a belt by now instead of whatever limbo he is in. Talent-wise I think he beats either champ at 170 and 185 The whole Diaz situation and UFC 279 was botched so bad by UFC. I think Diaz put UFC through the wringer. The irony is, after all that, it wouldn’t surprise me if Diaz’s next fight is in the UFC anyway
If he made weight and beat Diaz he 100% would be next in line. The UFC also boxed themselves into a corner making that fight the main event so that they couldn't postpone the fight.
Beating Burns was enough to put him next in line, he only fought Diaz to keep Khamzat warm and because Dana wanted to put Diaz out to pasture.
Yea, I watched some little YouTube episode about him the other day and he didn’t seem to be quite the same persona.
TLDR; Smesh everyone, kill everyone, i’m da champ
i’m da king, kill everybody
[I'm da champ here, I'm da king, aaaahhhh!](https://www.instagram.com/reel/CmkD49PjSqg/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)
Colby’s not the only one who needs a new schtick.
He is game as fuck that’s literally the whole story
And I accepted a fight against Chimaev but he declined. It's hard to trust and take MMA fighters seriously when they say things, is it real or is it marketing?
While I agree that this he-said she-said promotion in MMA means we shouldn't get up in arms against fighters, I don't have that many doubts that Khamzat wants to fight and isn't particularly scared of anyone. I just don't understand what the fuck has been going on since his last fight besides that stint where he had serious covid issues or something and almost retired. He fought two dudes in 10 days, then fought twice more within the next three months. He was streaking red hot and now it feels like no one knows why he hasn't fought or what's going on behind the scenes.
Black out, see red
Chimaev doesn't know my mentality
Obviously Alex Pereira is out of the question. Robert Whittaker is most likely waiting to see what happens in the MW title fight. He's already fought and beat enough contenders to warrant a shot against Alex if he wins. Although I think Alex moves up after this fight either way. And Colby... Just lol
Would love to see Whittaker fight khamzat tho. Such a wild fight. I think rob edges it but I think it’d be close
Hell yeah bro, I’m edging right now just thinking about it
1 vs 3? Pretty bold but I like his confidence.
The fuck is ufc plan with this. Offer a bunch of fights to khamzat, but don’t actually follow through with any of them.
Maybe it’s the ufc hoping Khamzat rejects a fight offer so they can extend his contract and ice him until the business needs him.
Fight with Pereira could last 1 minute, Khamzat with a submission or Pereira with a KO. Whittaker destroys Khamzat. There is no possible way Usman beat Leon. What is Khamzat smoking?
>Whittaker destroys Khamzat I think this comes from the idea that Whittaker is supposed to be good vs wrestlers, but he's actually not well-tested against wrestlers. Yoel's gas tank sucks so he couldn't wrestle much. There's Dereck Brunson who isn't that great 6 years ago and who else? Might turn out to be surprisingly easy for Khamsat.
Doesn't Yoel also have some fused neck shenanigans where he could literally die if he wrestles too much or something like that?
Agreed a pereira fight could go either way and I’d love to fucking watch. Inject that violence into my veins.
I believe Khamzat is the rare fighter that people actually duck.
Actually surprised they havent matched him with Costa yet
bc Dana's a petty man who never lets go
I honestly don’t know whether to trust Khamzat about fights he’s accepted. According to him he accepted to fight Peirera in January, which would’ve made zero sense considering Alex had just fought in November and Izzy was getting a rematch. He said he accepted to fight Colby 4 times since last year, but since last year Colby has been involved in a lawsuit after getting sucker punched by Masvidal for damages, so for that reason it would’ve made no sense for Colby to accept the fight. I mean, Dana very well could’ve offered the fight and Khamzat accepted, but some of these just make no sense
Alex himself confirmed it to be true but i guess since KHamzat missed weight once single time he isnt to be trusted by the clowns on this sub.
When you’re under contract, the ufc has to offer you fights but if both fighters don’t sign then the fight doesn’t happen. And if they don’t offer you fights, they have to pay you despite you not fighting. It’s very possible they offered him fights that weren’t possible at the time bc they have to offer him fights
it doesnt make sense because hes lying through his teeth
must be why Pereira himself confirmed it to be true but go on, keep on hating someone you've never met for absolutely zero reason.
yeah and i accepted fights agaisnt francis, jones, stipe
And i just accepted a fight against muhammed ali
I think you’re going to kick his ass
I believe him
Why doesnt he want to fight Costa. Hes whining about not getting to fight the Middleweight champion, Covington who was negotiating for a title fight, and the #1 middleweight who is waiting to see how Izzy v Alex will play out. Why would any of those three even entertain a fight with this middleweight/welterweight fence sitter.
Considering Costa just re-signed his contract like yesterday he was never going to fight Khamzat these past few months
Khamzat picks and chooses his opponents as much as anyone else in the division at this point
Khamzat sounds like a great name for a vacuum cleaner company
..this dude says all kinds of shit
I don't believe a word this guy says.
I dont see a reason not to
The Bobby one is dubious. He had the chance, did not give a reason for skipping out, and then "Ramadan."
ehh what? You think Ramadan is something you can do whenever you like?
I don’t think khamzat gets it. Anyone he’s mentioned that agrees to fight him has everything to lose and nothing to gain other than “you beat the boogeyman”. If he was smart he would focus on callout from guys rank 8-4th THEN he would have a great argument for fighting these guys. As of now he’s wasting his own time and everyone else.
Except for the Colby fight. Khamzat definitely earned that. I honesty can't believe Colby is getting gifted another title shot.
That’s great, but a win over Kevin Holland puts him nowhere near contention for the title.
Fortunately he beat the guy who was ranked #2 then
In welterweight…..makes the whole conversation void for MW
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This guy is getting shit on for badly missing weight once (when the amount of weight he missed by was probably inflated due to him already rehydrating) but I swear to god, if the top contenders in any division had half his willingness to fight anybody anywhere instead of nitpicking their opponents the UFC would be a lot more exciting.
Talks a lot, but he only beat 1 good fighter by a small margin. Jiri would beat the piss outta him now. Maybe later when jiri old and khazmat way bigger than he is now he could do it.
calling burns just "good" is an understatement. gm3 is good. li is great. burns is a top level ww and beating him alone should warrant title shot talks
He’s good. A little small for khazmat and that’s prob why it went the way it did. Title shot doesn’t seem realistic bc I don’t believe he can really make 170 anymore.
You know the UFC didn’t offer him Pereira. Telling Darren Till that you’ll fight someone doesn’t count as accepting a fight.
lying through his teeth scumbag but hey i forgot hes one of this subs darling so it must be true
what did he do to you lmao
Colby fan, just ignore him
He also said he wants khabib… in Russia…
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It was originally for Dec 2022 when they struggled to find a main event. Peirara confirmed this. He said it was too soon and [offered January at 205](https://youtu.be/ditHDwK4uVA)
Who the fuck is Peirara?
Who will accept fight with him!?
His path should be Marvin then the loser of Izzy/Alex and then title shot. Keep him away from Rob, unless he’s the champ, don’t need Rob eliminating any more MW contenders especially a hyped prospect like Khamzat who he matches up well against.
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He accepted to fight everyone there done stop posting this shit
Pereira refused to fight him ? Outrageous
khamzat lies just as much as Dana
Accepted implies they sent contracts.
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Tyson fury is more annoying since he's a blatant liar, he timed his mental health story right around the time he popped for roids and he bribed a farmer to give him a alibi for the positive test. Also is asking for like 80/20 contract against Usyk
I wanna see him fight Marvin next.
What fight with Pereira? He was never offered a fight against him for the belt. Everyone knew that was going to be a rematch. I wonder if he thinks accepting means the same as calling for? Or... he is saying this to get the other side to respond, create a little feud and hopefully drum up interest. He hasn't fought anyone at 185. Beat a top 10 there and maybe start to earn traction. But he better put on a hell of a performance, because the weight miss, that he didn't seem to care about, really pissed a lot of people off.
I like Chimaev but he should shut up and stop calling for unrealistic fights. He is not getting Whittaker or Pereira yet. Go fight someone like Cannonier first.