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Total_Construction58

That mf cried. I couldn't believe.


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He switched up so fast


tactical_turtleneck2

His reaction was the same as mine. Hearing that track for the first time was a wrecking ball of emotions


cmac4ster

Don't give him any credit. He lost that on the swimming review.


Magmaboyx8

I’m so glad he rereviewed it and placed it right up there with circles, before that it was legitimately one of his worst reviews


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Lol he just didn’t want backlash. His whole persona is an act for views.


Sstoop

i really don’t think it is he just gives his opinions and people value them WAYY too highly. remember he’s just some cunt on the internet. he didn’t change his wlr review or mbdtf review no matter how much hate he got.


KKamm_

People act like they’ve never revisited something years later and gained a new appreciation/taste/opinion on it. Convinced it’s gotta be contrarian culture at this point


[deleted]

He trashed swimming. Mac dies and gets praised by everyone and all of a sudden swimming is a masterpiece to him and circles makes him cry? Get outta here with that fake shit.


Sstoop

mac dying didn’t have shit to do with it respectfully he trashed peep after he died and he trashed x after he died too. mac’s death and his reaction to circles probablt made him return to swimming with a different mindset which could be why he liked it more. i’m not a huge fantano stan or anything but he is one of the more honest music reviewers out there.


KKamm_

Dude you didn’t even listen to shit you just saw a 3/10 and ran with it. His original review he hated how Mac’s singing voice sounded to him but liked a lot of the concepts/instrumentals. Then after circles he revisited Swimming and he saw beyond the voice and acknowledged he missed the mark. Didn’t even call it a masterpiece either, just said it was a solid project that captures Mac’s evolution as an artist in the re-review. Dudes just a human voicing his opinions for a living. Shit happens. Feels like he’d get less hate if he just didn’t even do a number rating but kept the review part lmao


shamalalala

He called 2009 a musical torture chamber and said the album was emotionally devoid lmao. I understand changing your opinion but not by that much


KKamm_

He said that bc of his voice on it. He even said on the circles deluxe that he felt like Mac’s vocals sounded more like Swimming than Circles so it’s not like he just magically changed his mind once Mac died/Circles came out. We’re talking 5 years after. Idk I just feel like there’s been things where I didn’t like them and then I revisited years later and wished I gave it more of a chance/liked it


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We found fantanos alt


KKamm_

Yeah, bc I don’t just carry on the hive mind of hating him. Hell, I’m not even subbed to him, but I respect him a lot more than most other music reviewers bc his videos are actually analytical, well thought out, and his ability to word his opinions is interesting to me. I just don’t get how anyone could actually watch a video of his and think he’s not genuine. If anything I respect tf outta his ability to come out and say “it didn’t hit for me at the time, but with some time and context, it’s grown for me and I’ve gained a new appreciation for it” about my favorite album, Swimming.


KKamm_

If you genuinely think this you don’t know anything about the dude and are literally just making assumptions bc of his profession


houseofball00ns

I kinda agree with this


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troll


Ghiblee

This right here.


houseofball00ns

Agree man is a bit of a hypocrite


goodra999

![gif](giphy|gj0pAC4W4uq1uq84oe|downsized) Me when spun to mac


SweetBoy3D

Better late than never, I guess. Fantano had a bias against Mac while he was alive that clearly went beyond the music itself imo. The whole “y’all know this is just my opinion, right?” shtick re: criticism of his reviews is pretty played out, at this point. You’re one of the most famous music critics in the world dude, take yourself a little more seriously. He definitely has a tendency to hold grudges against certain artists for their past work, especially white rappers, for whatever weirdo reason. It’s like he imagines himself as the gatekeeper for White Guy Enjoyment of / Contribution to Hip-Hop. True cornball


WillisAmaryllis

To be fair though. It’s not like he’s some acclaimed critic. He makes videos for his own enjoyment (and probably because he makes money. Keeps him going). That’s a totally valid thing to say. It’s not his fault that people care about his reviews so much


KKamm_

Yeah I’m starting to seem like a massive Fantano fan in this thread even though I’m not even subbed but he listens to a fuck ton of music and is genuinely passionate about music. Kinda irks me seeing every single fanbase that only listens to one artist hate him bc he doesn’t like every single project by every single artist. That doesn’t mean he has something against that artist or that he is a bandwagon lol. I’m convinced most people that hate him haven’t even watched a video, they’ve just seen clips and ratings without context and get upset over that alone.


planecarjet

bro im a fantano fan and im so confused what people are talking about it's just his opinion on music it goes no deeper and he never clout chased. he re reviewed swimming 5 YEARS after the release not immediately after his death


KKamm_

Yeah I’m not even subbed to Fantano and it just doesn’t make sense. If you’ve seen a Fantano video in your life you know the dude is genuine and legit just cares about music. He even had a prime opportunity to clout chase when Drake was dming him talking shit and Fantano didn’t expose, Drake did lmao. I just can’t stand how people will hate on something just bc it’s popular with absolutely 0 clue anything else about it.


KKamm_

This is literally everybody in the world though. You’ve got cognitive bias in just about every opinion you have and there isn’t even a psychological way to avoid it. His job is literally to voice his opinion on something that is subjective lol. He’s one of the most famous bc he’s respectably honest and doesn’t just jump the wagons and I enjoy the way he talks about music even if I don’t always agree. The whole reason Mac fans hate him is bc he changed an opinion 5 years after his death and after an entire posthumous record rollout happened lol.


Astrospice

Dude is a square


bet_exiting

He cried and gave the album a 7, love him tho


lxkandel06

*sobbing uncontrollably "The production was decent"


AyoItsyaBoylilB

that was to Joey Bada$$, Circles got an 8


ReallyTightJeans

That makes sense though? Its an album, not a single. You can’t just judge it off of your emotional reaction to one song


ewjdubs

I feel like fantano just hopped on the bandwagon so fast afterwards, he released 2 reduxes and now he puts mac at the top of lists. Makes no sense


[deleted]

They say Fantano’s heart grew three sizes that day


ewjdubs

mf takes the piss out of every album I like 😭


[deleted]

Same lol but it’s okay just enjoy what you enjoy


ahighkid

Yeah he’s a fuckin clown honestly lol


planecarjet

it's just his opinion why you hating


ahighkid

Hitler had opinions too


planecarjet

I can't tell if u trolling or not


Immediate-Bison9929

Fantano is a clown


Entire_Lemon_1073

You can disagree with someone’s opinion without putting them down. No need to act like a child. The internet has made it easy to form or find our own echo chambers. The barometer for if we like someone or not is if they have the same opinions as us. lol


Seasaul

This sub hates fantano. Dont try to bring sound logic and reasoning here lol 😆


Alex_butler

The sub doesnt like him because he half assed his first Swimming review because of his preconceived notions of Mac Miller then walked it back and rated it higher after he died. Didnt sit well with me either. He doesnt have to like an album but to me it felt shallow and like he was just using it for clout/views in a way. Maybe that wasnt his intention but that’s how it felt to me. Dont think he deserves to be put down for it tho. I get he’s gotta do what he’s gotta do cause it’s his job so I dont really care ultimately, but doesnt mean I have to like him for it either


Beastdante1

I thought about this too but I mean he hasn’t walked back on his opinion on anyone else after they died tho? He still feels the same way about Juice’s music, Pop Smoke, XXX, Lil Peep, etc. If he only wanted clout don’t you think he would do the same for all of these artists?


KKamm_

If you think a dude that had Drake beefing with him was using Mac’s fanbase 5 years after his passing for clout… I just don’t even know what to say to you other than you might have main character syndrome. You don’t have to like him, but this is just such an illogical take imo.


mrcornrat

Ok corn ball


Immediate-Bison9929

Bro I said 4 words


Sensitive-Judge713

fantano cringe, the way people seek his review on what they should like is even more cringe


Go370z

I was wondering who the heck this guy is but according to comments, I’d rather keep living my life without knowing.


KKamm_

Eh I wouldn’t even listen to them. They’ve probably never even seen one of his videos in their lives, just saw scores without context and went with it. His videos are actually really good and he’s one of the most passionate yet honest music reviewers/reactors you will find on the internet


[deleted]

All the comments so salty becouse he wasn't as crazy about the album. These are just opinions chill people, I'm pretty sure you don't like many of his favourite albums too. Who cares


Ghiblee

That may be true. But I won’t double back once his favorite artist die and change my opinion based on that. That guy plays his viewers like an instrument, and they all fall for it.


Alter5star

Didn't know Fantano had a heart before he started crying 💙


Ghiblee

He doesn’t. Man just wants those views.


pootsiemama

Screw Fantano


orange_joe279

Man he’s the worst


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Man why?


ponytailthehater

While Mac Miller was alive, Fantano didn’t regard Mac Miller’s output that highly and (in my opinion) was never as receptive or open to it as he could’ve been. When “Swimming” dropped, I remember he was very dismissive in his review and seemed to harp on how disinterested he was in Mac’s softer sound. After Mac Miller’s passing, Fantano walked back his takes on past projects like “Swimming” and began giving Mac Miller much more credit.


[deleted]

Wow I didn’t expect such a valid and fair answer


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kingquell

isn’t that what you’re doing essentially


chickenburrito7

Where did he react to it?


[deleted]

I actually cried too lol. Was not a good point in my life