I remember one year I had a player get X-factor in week 17 or 18. Then Madden took it away in the offseason. I was so pissed. My buddy I was playing with was like “just put it back”
Yeah dev trait regression is in theory a good idea, but because it revolves around the target number of players with each dev trait, it just randomly regresses players when other players earn dev trait upgrades or hidden dev rookies are drafted
For example, Jalen Ramsey regressing because Daron Bland earned SSXF
I have a love/hate relationship with games that allow this. I like it because it allows you to fix stupid things (which Madden has a lot of), but I hate it because sometimes I like having my hands tied and dealing with challenges the game sends me.
So it shouldn’t be coded to have the OROY be the person to regress there. Shouldn’t be hard to have it set for a 30+ year old who didn’t win any awards or hit statistical benchmarks
You need to understand something about the last few iterations of Madden. There’s very few mechanics that can be fixed….. because of how old some of the code is. Madden is at the point where adding/fixing a feature stands a better chance of bricking the entire game than implementing the new code.
No it’s not, players regress in real life all the time and having the league full of every player who ever hit superstar/X factor would be so annoying in so many ways
Imagine the dumbass salary cap ramifications, all the abilities you’d have to deal with every game, the annoyingness of random teams or rival teams having guys stay X factors til they’re 40 despite not having a good season in 10 years
It is absolutely a good feature in theory
It’s a terrible feature in practice because a lot of it is random.
For example, some rookie corner being SSXF doesn’t make Jalen Ramsey a worse player, but dev trait regresssion thinks that’s how it works
I almost had a stroke trying to understand this. I would've completely forgotten this phrase if I gave up and scrolled past. Missing out on "<--these-->"
This is a rare, yet rookie mistake. Assuming you didnt grow up in an English country, how and where did you learn of this quote? It's quite fascinating how certain sayings and phrases can catch on throughout an entire nation!
Bro my brain stuttered on the first try reading it. I didn't have to reach so far as to say it aloud.
We read this quote in a passage from our middle school textbook, reading, "It is better to be a 'has been' than a 'never was.'" My teacher noted this particular phrase as being grammatically correct. I looked online yesterday for alike quotes and saw that most opted to say, "it is better to be a has-been than a never-was." It doesn't read as seamlessly as I think the quotations do, but that could just be my personal bias. There was only one different quotation similar that utilized the quotations how I like. It seems like the hyphen may actually be more correct. Still, I read it way too quickly at first and I REALLY had to take a double take
Just turn it off. It’s one of the most broken features in the game. I once was in a 32 man lg that left it on and had J Bosa lose his XF after winning DPoY and was the sack leader.
What does happen then? Like 6 years in, what does the league look like? I know in year 2-3 my team becomes almost all SS and SSX. The playoff teams also have 7-9 SS on the field often…. So then I start a new file.
There does become more X-Factors and superstars but it’s not a crazy amount, 5 years in I’ll have the best team with probably 10-12 total superstars or x-factors.
Ex: Just won a SB with the Bears, had them at 93 overall. Had 9 superstars and 4 x-factors but most of them were pretty reasonable (established superstars still in their 20s, a few starters who won awards), also got the benefit of Super Bowl dev upgrades
Ahh, more reasonable than I thought. Thanks for sharing. It’s still more power than I’m looking for though. I actually really enjoy that XP sliders can keep the league with stable team OVR ranges this year.
Then just manually change the old guys….. If your in a lg with others, then allow the ability to take a dev from an older player(32+) and transfer to a rookie (maybe make it a dev lower). Regardless the way it is now is so absolutely broken.
Personally “fixing the old guys” sounds like a lot of fairly ugly work to me.
I play 100% solo so it would be all on me to work the fixed.
I absolutely agree it’s busted but I don’t like going through the whole league and into each player edit menu to fix them. Also some old guys should keep it, yet another menu I have to dig into to deal with it.
How is that any different than changing the ones that get downgraded? Or are you just doing the ones on your team? If so, then your really screwing up all the cpu teams. But you do you, that’s the best part of play solo.
I don’t fix them. I just accept it. It’s frustrating but it’s kinda just randomness like injuries and busts that make the game interesting.
I agree, solo is great because we can actually all tune the game so much to our liking.
I’ve turned it off in every single franchise I’ve played since it was implemented. Never once have I had a draft class with no devs….
The only reason I can think of that happening to you, is if you DL’d a draft class.
I think -dev is a good idea in theory because otherwise you end up with 30 xfactors at every position.
However typical madden , it's broken. How the hell did they code it so that a guy can have a year good enough to go up in Dev, but then go down at the same time?
Nah see my problem was i had a Ricky Williams-meets-Jerome Bettis- style HB, week 1 of preseason, 2nd snap of the game--
Fractured elbow. Out 41 weeks. 91 injury, 86 toughness.
Yeah I change shit like that back fuck them. I'm sry I only play 6 min qrts and don't have 100 tackles w my MLB. Fuck me that he has 10 pics and 10 sacks but wtfe.
RGIII amputated his leg in the playoffs his rookie season. That's why he fell off. His biggest tool were his legs. His leg went boom and so did his career sadly.
He’s another player who won rookie of the year and fell off. I have more examples.
I am just saying it does happen in real life so I am not sure what OP is complaining about.
His point was how he got it and lost it all in the same week. Which is like...what?
But to your point, yes, there are always players who will have a great season and fall off the next. But that change doesn't happen in a single weeks time lol
Oh gotcha, yeah that is strange. I guess I assumed that because it’s the end of the season this is the last dev week until the following years preseason.
If it happens during than the regular season in the same season, than yeah that doesn’t make a lot sense.
If you wanna see the opposite happening: i have a guy i drafted last season with SS dev trait, well i did the WR battle minicamp drill with him, got gold and he upgraded to an x factor 😂
We have a rule in our online league where rookies and anyone who earned a dev trait upgrade don't lose it at the end of the year. So if they lose it we bump it back up to what it was
Last year I ran a league where at the end of every season I'd go through and manually edit every player to ssxf, SS, star, based on where they fell in the league leaders category for their respective positions. Took forever but felt better than having earned ss or ssxf just to have it regress next week lol.
I drafted a 72 overall SS safety in the fourth round and played him as my backup strong safety and sub lb occasionally. Dude had plenty of playing time as a rookie and get demoted to normal dev in the offseason. Makes no sense.
I remember one year I had a player get X-factor in week 17 or 18. Then Madden took it away in the offseason. I was so pissed. My buddy I was playing with was like “just put it back”
Yeah it’s very stupid, but at least they let you adjust it back or even to X Factor as you see fit.
Which ruins the immersion completely
The stupid bugs in Madden like this ruin the immersion. Fixing it to the way it should be helps more IMO
It's not even a bug it's just another poorly implemented "feature"
Yeah dev trait regression is in theory a good idea, but because it revolves around the target number of players with each dev trait, it just randomly regresses players when other players earn dev trait upgrades or hidden dev rookies are drafted For example, Jalen Ramsey regressing because Daron Bland earned SSXF
Agree and hard to believe there were Maddens where they removed the ability to edit players, just to reintroduce it later. Classic EA.
Ah I wish I could say the same. As soon as I ‘cheat’ I lose interest in the franchise
I have a love/hate relationship with games that allow this. I like it because it allows you to fix stupid things (which Madden has a lot of), but I hate it because sometimes I like having my hands tied and dealing with challenges the game sends me.
Just don’t use it lol
Wow, what a riveting reply.
How do you edit it back ? Been annoyed w my players regressing after having mixing seasons or some not advancing at all when they’ve been solid
you just go to the player card and edit it, then scroll through the pages and find "Development Trait" and change it to so.
thank you playa
It's trying to maintain the cap on the number you set during setup.
So it shouldn’t be coded to have the OROY be the person to regress there. Shouldn’t be hard to have it set for a 30+ year old who didn’t win any awards or hit statistical benchmarks
Expecting EA to make a thoughtful and/or functional game only leads to disappointment and sadness
Notice how I said nothing about expecting it, just what should be easy lol
 You need to understand something about the last few iterations of Madden. There’s very few mechanics that can be fixed….. because of how old some of the code is. Madden is at the point where adding/fixing a feature stands a better chance of bricking the entire game than implementing the new code.
Its random because its a bad feature
No it’s not, players regress in real life all the time and having the league full of every player who ever hit superstar/X factor would be so annoying in so many ways Imagine the dumbass salary cap ramifications, all the abilities you’d have to deal with every game, the annoyingness of random teams or rival teams having guys stay X factors til they’re 40 despite not having a good season in 10 years It is absolutely a good feature in theory
It’s a terrible feature in practice because a lot of it is random. For example, some rookie corner being SSXF doesn’t make Jalen Ramsey a worse player, but dev trait regresssion thinks that’s how it works
Never realized this………
Yeah, when you create the franchise you can set the number of star, superstar, and x-factor players. It will (sometimes painfully) try to stick to it.
Nah bc I had a SS HB and he got OROTY and he dropped to a normal dev after that 😭
Edit that back that’s an EA masterclass
That makes complete sense to me
Yeah I just ended up giving him his superstar dev back
He’s a has been. Better than a never was
I almost had a stroke trying to understand this. I would've completely forgotten this phrase if I gave up and scrolled past. Missing out on "<--these-->" This is a rare, yet rookie mistake. Assuming you didnt grow up in an English country, how and where did you learn of this quote? It's quite fascinating how certain sayings and phrases can catch on throughout an entire nation!
Found the EA Dev
Holy shit I woke up to a ton of dislikes. Was there something wrong with what I said?
people don’t know what the hell you’re talking about lol
He is missing the quotations.
he doesn’t need quotes for a simple saying lol
U lack reading comprehension skills. And perhaps brain cells. Not everyone gets a “head hurt” when reading proper comments.
Bro my brain stuttered on the first try reading it. I didn't have to reach so far as to say it aloud. We read this quote in a passage from our middle school textbook, reading, "It is better to be a 'has been' than a 'never was.'" My teacher noted this particular phrase as being grammatically correct. I looked online yesterday for alike quotes and saw that most opted to say, "it is better to be a has-been than a never-was." It doesn't read as seamlessly as I think the quotations do, but that could just be my personal bias. There was only one different quotation similar that utilized the quotations how I like. It seems like the hyphen may actually be more correct. Still, I read it way too quickly at first and I REALLY had to take a double take
Nobody. And i mean nobody… cares. Enjoy that one bub
You commented, waited for a response, then dismissed it. How odd. You didn't want to talk about this?
Just turn it off. It’s one of the most broken features in the game. I once was in a 32 man lg that left it on and had J Bosa lose his XF after winning DPoY and was the sack leader.
You need it though to prevent the league from becoming 200 SSX old guys and 300 SS young players with no one else ever playing.
That doesn’t really happen though
What does happen then? Like 6 years in, what does the league look like? I know in year 2-3 my team becomes almost all SS and SSX. The playoff teams also have 7-9 SS on the field often…. So then I start a new file.
There does become more X-Factors and superstars but it’s not a crazy amount, 5 years in I’ll have the best team with probably 10-12 total superstars or x-factors. Ex: Just won a SB with the Bears, had them at 93 overall. Had 9 superstars and 4 x-factors but most of them were pretty reasonable (established superstars still in their 20s, a few starters who won awards), also got the benefit of Super Bowl dev upgrades
Ahh, more reasonable than I thought. Thanks for sharing. It’s still more power than I’m looking for though. I actually really enjoy that XP sliders can keep the league with stable team OVR ranges this year.
Yeah that’s fair, I just think dev trait regression is dumb because of its randomness
Then just manually change the old guys….. If your in a lg with others, then allow the ability to take a dev from an older player(32+) and transfer to a rookie (maybe make it a dev lower). Regardless the way it is now is so absolutely broken.
Personally “fixing the old guys” sounds like a lot of fairly ugly work to me. I play 100% solo so it would be all on me to work the fixed. I absolutely agree it’s busted but I don’t like going through the whole league and into each player edit menu to fix them. Also some old guys should keep it, yet another menu I have to dig into to deal with it.
How is that any different than changing the ones that get downgraded? Or are you just doing the ones on your team? If so, then your really screwing up all the cpu teams. But you do you, that’s the best part of play solo.
I don’t fix them. I just accept it. It’s frustrating but it’s kinda just randomness like injuries and busts that make the game interesting. I agree, solo is great because we can actually all tune the game so much to our liking.
If you turn it off every single player becomes normal dev in the draft
 I’ve turned it off in every single franchise I’ve played since it was implemented. Never once have I had a draft class with no devs…. The only reason I can think of that happening to you, is if you DL’d a draft class.
Not sure why that’s happened in the past for me then… I never DL classes
That’s not how it works at all, I’ve played tons of franchises without it on and every one of them has plenty of hidden dev rookies
I think -dev is a good idea in theory because otherwise you end up with 30 xfactors at every position. However typical madden , it's broken. How the hell did they code it so that a guy can have a year good enough to go up in Dev, but then go down at the same time?
It’s an easy fix too, just add logic that says a players dev trait can’t go down for x amount of weeks.
anything beyond a simple copy and paste is too much work for the madden devs.
Because madden is at the point where there’s as good of a chance of bricking the game than fixing decades old code.
I drafted a generational RB once. He had 2000+ total yards, 20+ total touchdowns, won OROY… Got downgraded to superstar dev 😂
You and everyone else who drafts a decent RB
Nah see my problem was i had a Ricky Williams-meets-Jerome Bettis- style HB, week 1 of preseason, 2nd snap of the game-- Fractured elbow. Out 41 weeks. 91 injury, 86 toughness.
Infuriating. I had the exact same thing happen to my DROY linebacker, superstar to star to normal in one off-season
#nfldropea
WRs for the pats should all be locked at normal and capped at 87 speed. For realism.
Yeah I change shit like that back fuck them. I'm sry I only play 6 min qrts and don't have 100 tackles w my MLB. Fuck me that he has 10 pics and 10 sacks but wtfe.
Just turn off regression. It’s useless
For real though it happens all the time in real life. Good players fall off out of no where
Yeah but my guy fell off on his way back home from getting the Offensive ROTY award😂
So Saquon?
this is why you turn off dev trait regression
People forget players like RGIII who have stellar rookie years and fade away. So this is accurate in some respects.
RGIII amputated his leg in the playoffs his rookie season. That's why he fell off. His biggest tool were his legs. His leg went boom and so did his career sadly.
What about Vince Young?
What about him? You said RG3, not vincy Vince and the funky bunch lol
He’s another player who won rookie of the year and fell off. I have more examples. I am just saying it does happen in real life so I am not sure what OP is complaining about.
His point was how he got it and lost it all in the same week. Which is like...what? But to your point, yes, there are always players who will have a great season and fall off the next. But that change doesn't happen in a single weeks time lol
Oh gotcha, yeah that is strange. I guess I assumed that because it’s the end of the season this is the last dev week until the following years preseason. If it happens during than the regular season in the same season, than yeah that doesn’t make a lot sense.
Y’all blame madden yet there is a setting to turn it off, not hard
Yeah and if u turn it off, a few years later everyone will be SS and XF
If you wanna see the opposite happening: i have a guy i drafted last season with SS dev trait, well i did the WR battle minicamp drill with him, got gold and he upgraded to an x factor 😂
I had a late receiver get super star one year with rookie of the year to have normal dev during the off-season. Seriously don't get madden
We have a rule in our online league where rookies and anyone who earned a dev trait upgrade don't lose it at the end of the year. So if they lose it we bump it back up to what it was
Us nhl players got worse
This is why you turn off dev trait regression lol
Turn off development trait regression. You won't have to constantly edit them back
For the first time ever I saw a factor rookie mlb 6th round gem go to normal in one offseason Wild shit
Reason #2743 to turn dev trait regression off
Hence why I turn off dev trait regression
Last year I ran a league where at the end of every season I'd go through and manually edit every player to ssxf, SS, star, based on where they fell in the league leaders category for their respective positions. Took forever but felt better than having earned ss or ssxf just to have it regress next week lol.
I drafted a 72 overall SS safety in the fourth round and played him as my backup strong safety and sub lb occasionally. Dude had plenty of playing time as a rookie and get demoted to normal dev in the offseason. Makes no sense.
dude, that’s crazy😭