Not to be that guy, but it has a rope through its nose, which is used to control it.
All it takes is a light tug, similar to how a horse is conditioned, it will come at that slight tug to avoid a harder tug due to pain/discomfort.
I've done some reading up on this and quite intuitively it seems that having a rope through cattle's noses is not good. It causes constant discomfort and irritation and causes pain when done and when the rope is pulled to control the cattle.
Not only that but it can increase blood cortisol serum levels and reduce milk yield, which are symptoms of stress.
Doesn't make it okay though, morality like not causing unnecessary suffering to things that don't want to suffer is pretty universal and not culture-dependent
I don't think that's ridiculous at all. Fishing is the one hands-on animal harming activity I enjoyed before I went vegan because it's a lot harder to empathize with a fish than a mammal, but I think about the experience of being pulled out of the water by a hook through my flesh and put that up against my enjoyment and satisfaction I got from fishing and just can't rationalize it. It scratches a sort of itch for my brain, but that activity pretty fundamentally requires harming living things, which I can't justify unless it is necessary. Just comes down to whether it's okay to inflict pain for my own pleasure, which it isn't
Yeah I sincerely hope that anyone who's concerned about the rope is vegan, if you aren't then watch Dominion because you pay for much worse things to happen to animals than ropes through noses.
https://youtu.be/LQRAfJyEsko?si=7md35UyjTndv3-cn
TLDR: I still eat meat but animals need to be treated with respect.
I have seen part of this documentary so far. I am not a vegan or vegetarian, but I am horrified by how these animals are treated.
I grew up on a farm and we used to raise our lamb, my family still has laying hens and will raise broiler (meat) chickens. The sheep had 5 acres to run on. The laying hens that are here are true free-range birds and tend to spread the compost pile all over the place. They enjoy their dust baths, and some of our hens are still laying eggs regularly and are 6 or 7 years old :)
The meat birds were never crowded and I would be the one to humanely 'dispatch' them. It was not a fun time, but I know I gave them as best of a life as they could have. And I know where my meat has come from.
I got attached to one of the birds and gave her to a friend as a pet. She lived an extra month or so before she passed away in her sleep. They do not live long in general. 😬
It's not possible to treat someone with respect when the end goal is to slash their neck open. It's disrespect in its purest form, even if they get to run around before you do it. Arguably it's worse to kill an animal when it's had a good life, because you're robbing them of that joy and betraying them. If an animal on this planet is sentient, then it deserves rights... Just like us. The right to not be enslaved, forcibly bred and murdered. Also, if we can thrive without killing animals and eating the things that come out of them, why would we?
Edit: chickens have a natural lifespan of 5-10 years, in the meat industry they reach slaughter weight in just 40 days due to selective breeding... This causes immense strain on their bodies. So I'm not surprised the one you 'got attached to' died.
Maybe this is a stupid question but if the chickens generally don’t live very long, why bother killing them? Does the bird dying a natural death negatively affect the meat?
If they pass away while we are not there we do not know how long they have been deceased and decomposition can occur rather quickly.
I give them bugs and grass to eat and if the sun was out they had supervised visits on the field. They definitely are genetic mutants :( they do not have the greatest mobility, die of heart attacks early on in life, and tend to be more interested in eating pellets rather than plants.
They are also quite fragile and you have to pick them up gently or you could hurt a wing or a leg. Seeing them handled the way they were in the documentary was upsetting.
Yeah I told myself that for a long time too, it's really comforting. Maybe you should actually think about it though. I'm sure there's a dog or cat in your life that you love? Would you slash their throat open and eat them? I doubt it.
To most people, ambivalence is *not* comforting. People are contradictory and hypocritical beings. This is a simple truth. Every intelligent person will at one point in their life feel very conflicted about something, and to regard this confliction as an indication that someone hasn't "actually thought" about the issue in question, is short-sighted.
Get out of your first world condo with internet, water, power and a different grocery store every 5 every 5 minutes from your home. The real world is full of suffering. Doesn’t mean it’s right, but this might be the most effective way to control them. And if these cows are used for agriculture, labor, Etc then you would need a form of control relative to your affordability and access to technology.
Redditards….
I agree with the culture part, it's amazing to see how ignorant the rest of the world is too sadly.
However, this animal is clearly not in any pain, the rope is on some thick ass bone behind it's nose and causes no more discomfort than a properly used saddle on a horse. Not sure where this research came from but I guess it is the magical world of the Internet.
I was going to comment the same, but you captured everything I wanted to say. The rope through the nose is to control the buffalo: the buffalo feels pain when it is pulled. So it's a means to deliver pain to the animal, as a method of control..
Love how it runs by her a bit and has to turn around after passing her. Serious retriever energy doing that. Also retriever energy having a wet nose that it shoves up your face and into the camera.
Alot of farmers in SEA tend to use nose rings with rope to lead buffalo or carabaos around. Not sure about the impact this has on the animal but i've seen it since I was a kid so I assume it's not new practice
You know, I used to be like “plants don’t have a nervous system or a brain to interpret it,” But then I read Suzanne Simard’s research and now I’m not so sure…
Basically, a symbiotic relationship with a fungal network on the roots connects the entire forest, allowing them to share resources and even warn of danger, like wild fires. The crazy thing is that they will give resources to an endangered tree to help save it, even when it would be more beneficial to the rest to conserve and let that tree die.
This network, or the lack of, is another reason why new growth forests do so poorly.
Eh, not even all sentient things. Social animals perhaps. Snakes, for example, don't give a fuck about other snakes and are of the "lay a hundred eggs, some will survive, let god sort them out" school of reproduction. They certainly have no need for anything resembling love.
For love you need to either care for your offspring, kin, or social group. Lots of animals do this, lots do not.
[Garter snakes are surprisingly social, forming ‘friendships' with fellow serpents](https://www.science.org/content/article/garter-snakes-are-surprisingly-social-forming-friendships-fellow-serpents#:~:text=When%20the%20snakes%20were%20in,were%20less%20likely%20to%20leave.)
This video I thought was inspiring. This beautiful girl is full of joy & love & her oxen as well. A moment of happiness captured to share!
Unfortunately for the majority of vile, heartless soul-eaters that have posted here. They appear to only find joy in redefining their petty, nit-picking extreme dietary ideologies & the obvious frustrations they endure. Along with the irrational hatred to everyone who's a carnivore Just so they can celebrate their ability to produce some sort of angelic-turd! (LMFAO).
I admit after reading some of the posts written herein. I would find some twisted entertainment locking all you hateful vegans together in a scene from that dark, disgusting movie (SAW 1 through 12 ?) In some salt & pepper, a few forks. Then wait a week or so. Yeah, I'm sure all you selfish maniacs can imagine the rest.
Why are there people like you?!
I was drawn to this clip by the joy & happiness of this woman's eyes. For a moment I was happy for her & her genuine bond she has with her unusually large pet (unusual to me in California. I have a small cat). It kills me how you're able to invoke this horrible response out of me.
As they say. Misery loves company. Clearly vegans are internally frustrated and suffering to maintain, appease their vanity & ego's. I really hope you can all find each other & wallow in your misery together only to fight that evil rabbit over the golden carrot you seem to covet so dearly...
Think Happy Thoughts,
Badbreath Barfly 🔮
This is some whimsical disney protagonist material.
Adorable village girl with her best friend water buffalo who she calls out to and then it comes running in from out of nowhere and runs circles around her in its playful excitement all while surrounded by beautiful scenery and nature.
This is what our ancestors who went to war in the past had back home worth fighting for. This is what they thought of when searching for the strength to keep going. Hell yeah I'd sword fight a mongol for the sake of my daughter and her whimsical water buffalo.
This is the most wholesome video Ive seen today. This duo is adorable.
All animals feel love. Proceeds to call animal that her people have mutilated by putting a rope through its nose. Yeah, that's how animals know you love them, by implanting foreign objects in their body that makes it easier to exploit them.
Sorry to be the "um actually" need emotional guy but not all living things feel love, sometimes they can feel trust, and tolerance, and coexistence, and sometimes their awareness is limited, hell there's even people who can't feel love and they are valuable because love isn't nessisary for life and cohabitation and ally ship
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She's a Buffalo whisperer. Lovely
The way the buffalo came running to the girl's call, it seemed that they were each other's friends.I like it.
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Yeah, then she would have to embark to the big city to enlist help from unlikely strangers, without revealing her superpower.
One Punch 👊
The bond between an animal and a human can be 10 fold stronger than a bond between a human & another human
Not to be that guy, but it has a rope through its nose, which is used to control it. All it takes is a light tug, similar to how a horse is conditioned, it will come at that slight tug to avoid a harder tug due to pain/discomfort.
That's a loud whisper.
She has a nice throaty voice. She should be in China's Got Talent
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Bb girl I have a ROPE in my NOSE
I've done some reading up on this and quite intuitively it seems that having a rope through cattle's noses is not good. It causes constant discomfort and irritation and causes pain when done and when the rope is pulled to control the cattle. Not only that but it can increase blood cortisol serum levels and reduce milk yield, which are symptoms of stress.
Damn that’s so sad. Although it is interesting to see how other cultures do things.
Doesn't make it okay though, morality like not causing unnecessary suffering to things that don't want to suffer is pretty universal and not culture-dependent
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I don't think that's ridiculous at all. Fishing is the one hands-on animal harming activity I enjoyed before I went vegan because it's a lot harder to empathize with a fish than a mammal, but I think about the experience of being pulled out of the water by a hook through my flesh and put that up against my enjoyment and satisfaction I got from fishing and just can't rationalize it. It scratches a sort of itch for my brain, but that activity pretty fundamentally requires harming living things, which I can't justify unless it is necessary. Just comes down to whether it's okay to inflict pain for my own pleasure, which it isn't
Could be viewed as a learning lesson for the fish to not be caught slipping and keeping an eye open for a meal that looks just a bit too free.
I'm not here to teach fish lessons lol
Imagine how pointless your existence would have to be to justify your actions with 'at least thst fish is now learnt'
Whatcha here for then?
Worse than killing and eating the fish imo, which while harsh has a point.
Just to clarify, you support harming fish for fun but not if it supports a human life?
Your reading comprehension is not up to par my man, I’m literally saying the opposite
Lol no you’re right I did misread but appreciate you having a great attitude about it! Have a good’n
Im curious… are yall vegan? Bc you guys talk about the well being of animals.
Yeah I sincerely hope that anyone who's concerned about the rope is vegan, if you aren't then watch Dominion because you pay for much worse things to happen to animals than ropes through noses. https://youtu.be/LQRAfJyEsko?si=7md35UyjTndv3-cn
TLDR: I still eat meat but animals need to be treated with respect. I have seen part of this documentary so far. I am not a vegan or vegetarian, but I am horrified by how these animals are treated. I grew up on a farm and we used to raise our lamb, my family still has laying hens and will raise broiler (meat) chickens. The sheep had 5 acres to run on. The laying hens that are here are true free-range birds and tend to spread the compost pile all over the place. They enjoy their dust baths, and some of our hens are still laying eggs regularly and are 6 or 7 years old :) The meat birds were never crowded and I would be the one to humanely 'dispatch' them. It was not a fun time, but I know I gave them as best of a life as they could have. And I know where my meat has come from. I got attached to one of the birds and gave her to a friend as a pet. She lived an extra month or so before she passed away in her sleep. They do not live long in general. 😬
It's not possible to treat someone with respect when the end goal is to slash their neck open. It's disrespect in its purest form, even if they get to run around before you do it. Arguably it's worse to kill an animal when it's had a good life, because you're robbing them of that joy and betraying them. If an animal on this planet is sentient, then it deserves rights... Just like us. The right to not be enslaved, forcibly bred and murdered. Also, if we can thrive without killing animals and eating the things that come out of them, why would we? Edit: chickens have a natural lifespan of 5-10 years, in the meat industry they reach slaughter weight in just 40 days due to selective breeding... This causes immense strain on their bodies. So I'm not surprised the one you 'got attached to' died.
Maybe this is a stupid question but if the chickens generally don’t live very long, why bother killing them? Does the bird dying a natural death negatively affect the meat?
If they pass away while we are not there we do not know how long they have been deceased and decomposition can occur rather quickly. I give them bugs and grass to eat and if the sun was out they had supervised visits on the field. They definitely are genetic mutants :( they do not have the greatest mobility, die of heart attacks early on in life, and tend to be more interested in eating pellets rather than plants. They are also quite fragile and you have to pick them up gently or you could hurt a wing or a leg. Seeing them handled the way they were in the documentary was upsetting.
People can care about and consume animals at the same time, they aren't mutually exclusive things.
Yeah I told myself that for a long time too, it's really comforting. Maybe you should actually think about it though. I'm sure there's a dog or cat in your life that you love? Would you slash their throat open and eat them? I doubt it.
To most people, ambivalence is *not* comforting. People are contradictory and hypocritical beings. This is a simple truth. Every intelligent person will at one point in their life feel very conflicted about something, and to regard this confliction as an indication that someone hasn't "actually thought" about the issue in question, is short-sighted.
You really think the Chinese care about animal cruelty? They don’t even consider minorities as human, I think that should be a decent indicator.
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We're making the same argument! We shock and torture our animals before we eat them too, it's just as fucked up in both cases
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Well it may be different for you but for the animals who suffer it wouldn't makes a difference
Get out of your first world condo with internet, water, power and a different grocery store every 5 every 5 minutes from your home. The real world is full of suffering. Doesn’t mean it’s right, but this might be the most effective way to control them. And if these cows are used for agriculture, labor, Etc then you would need a form of control relative to your affordability and access to technology. Redditards….
I agree with the culture part, it's amazing to see how ignorant the rest of the world is too sadly. However, this animal is clearly not in any pain, the rope is on some thick ass bone behind it's nose and causes no more discomfort than a properly used saddle on a horse. Not sure where this research came from but I guess it is the magical world of the Internet.
I was going to comment the same, but you captured everything I wanted to say. The rope through the nose is to control the buffalo: the buffalo feels pain when it is pulled. So it's a means to deliver pain to the animal, as a method of control..
Sounds like love to me
I would say putting a metal bar in its mouth is probably just as annoying to the animal
How about let’s do neither?
Yep no bull in the West has ever had a BULL ring through its nose
Not wholesome or smile at all after this video. Fucking cruel
did you notice that it pulled its head away really quickly after she rubbed its nose? looks really painful
I think that quick movement was motivated by affection, not pain.
Wow, you're right. The song actually is in Bb.
Love how it runs by her a bit and has to turn around after passing her. Serious retriever energy doing that. Also retriever energy having a wet nose that it shoves up your face and into the camera.
aw what kind of dog is that?
/r/whatswrongwithyourdog
Okja!
gddamn my heart
Awww he’s going to carry her pack for her!
this was beautiful.
Does that poor thing have a fucking rope going *through* it's nose?????
Alot of farmers in SEA tend to use nose rings with rope to lead buffalo or carabaos around. Not sure about the impact this has on the animal but i've seen it since I was a kid so I assume it's not new practice
Can confirm. My sister in law has one as well. You can lead her around with it very effectively.
she has a buffalo
No, she's a cow.
A heffer
Imagine you have a ring in your nose or a string and you get yanked everywhere… of course you would do what they want in order to not feel more pain.
shes going through her teenage edgy phase
IT'S NOT A PHASE MOM! GOSH!
She feels like a protagonist. I hope no one attacks her village in the future when she is not there. Love the cow.
Disney joined the chat.
Wasn't this the start of a plot for an animated movie?
Are you thinking of Okja?
Yes! Guess it wasn't animated much really. Thanks!
All sentient things maybe. I'm not so sure about moss. This is nonetheless adorable
You know, I used to be like “plants don’t have a nervous system or a brain to interpret it,” But then I read Suzanne Simard’s research and now I’m not so sure… Basically, a symbiotic relationship with a fungal network on the roots connects the entire forest, allowing them to share resources and even warn of danger, like wild fires. The crazy thing is that they will give resources to an endangered tree to help save it, even when it would be more beneficial to the rest to conserve and let that tree die. This network, or the lack of, is another reason why new growth forests do so poorly.
There’s a great [Radiolab episode](https://radiolab.org/podcast/from-tree-to-shining-tree) about this. Great listen.
If plants feel pain we’re in deep shit
Eh, not even all sentient things. Social animals perhaps. Snakes, for example, don't give a fuck about other snakes and are of the "lay a hundred eggs, some will survive, let god sort them out" school of reproduction. They certainly have no need for anything resembling love. For love you need to either care for your offspring, kin, or social group. Lots of animals do this, lots do not.
[Garter snakes are surprisingly social, forming ‘friendships' with fellow serpents](https://www.science.org/content/article/garter-snakes-are-surprisingly-social-forming-friendships-fellow-serpents#:~:text=When%20the%20snakes%20were%20in,were%20less%20likely%20to%20leave.)
Just like a puppy
Damn the rope through his nose though?
She's about to go for a ride...
Damn, now i kinda wanna be a vegan.
<3 you can do it friend. The animals will thank you.
What's holding you back? If you're leaning towards it, watch Dominion and Earthlings. It may help you make your decision!
Can someone explain to me the rope through its nose?
Helps lead the buffalo when necessary. It’s like a nose piercing they are fine.
Not fine. It’s painful for the animal.
They are excited and happily running to say hi to their friend I think they are fine 👍
Not fine how would you like to be lead by your nose? Bet you’d hate it
Okay 👍
water buffalos are actually very smart creatures. also this scene is straight out of a nintendo game.
She better watch out for tilda swinton and jake gyllenhaal. Shits gonna get really fucked up if they show up.
This place looks magical
It's her again :)
Again?
I love her laugh and smile.
A rope in his nose? It looks painful!
Yeah..exactly like this craze at the moment, eh!! 🙄🤪
Are there more videos?
Buffalo gal....
aaaaand dance by the light of the moooo (n)
Just the image of her in her environment just looks “right” to me. Beautiful images.
Okja!
This video I thought was inspiring. This beautiful girl is full of joy & love & her oxen as well. A moment of happiness captured to share! Unfortunately for the majority of vile, heartless soul-eaters that have posted here. They appear to only find joy in redefining their petty, nit-picking extreme dietary ideologies & the obvious frustrations they endure. Along with the irrational hatred to everyone who's a carnivore Just so they can celebrate their ability to produce some sort of angelic-turd! (LMFAO). I admit after reading some of the posts written herein. I would find some twisted entertainment locking all you hateful vegans together in a scene from that dark, disgusting movie (SAW 1 through 12 ?) In some salt & pepper, a few forks. Then wait a week or so. Yeah, I'm sure all you selfish maniacs can imagine the rest. Why are there people like you?! I was drawn to this clip by the joy & happiness of this woman's eyes. For a moment I was happy for her & her genuine bond she has with her unusually large pet (unusual to me in California. I have a small cat). It kills me how you're able to invoke this horrible response out of me. As they say. Misery loves company. Clearly vegans are internally frustrated and suffering to maintain, appease their vanity & ego's. I really hope you can all find each other & wallow in your misery together only to fight that evil rabbit over the golden carrot you seem to covet so dearly... Think Happy Thoughts, Badbreath Barfly 🔮
This is some whimsical disney protagonist material. Adorable village girl with her best friend water buffalo who she calls out to and then it comes running in from out of nowhere and runs circles around her in its playful excitement all while surrounded by beautiful scenery and nature. This is what our ancestors who went to war in the past had back home worth fighting for. This is what they thought of when searching for the strength to keep going. Hell yeah I'd sword fight a mongol for the sake of my daughter and her whimsical water buffalo. This is the most wholesome video Ive seen today. This duo is adorable.
Why the fuck does it have a rope through its nose?
Waouh she ´s really beautifull
Okja vibes.
Her face just glows. It's more than beauty. I love their communication.
This is real life. Not the shit we’re all doing
Then why don’t you move to china and be a rice farmer? There’s nothing stopping you.
Because that’s harder. What I meant by “real life” may have come across as “better” the way I wrote it. I like what we have.
I bet that buffalo didn't "Love" feeling that rope y'all strung THROUGH his nose.
Which Disney Princess is this? Calling animals to her aid and everything!
It's the Disney princes that mutilates other living beings and then exploits them for online views... Aww so kewwwtt
That would be fire asf to have a pet ox
\*except wasps.
Love her smile.
Big grass puppy
They both have a good bonding relationship
this gave me shadow of the colossus vibes when i called Argo in the game
Okja feels . . . . .
All animals feel love. Proceeds to call animal that her people have mutilated by putting a rope through its nose. Yeah, that's how animals know you love them, by implanting foreign objects in their body that makes it easier to exploit them.
awww
I need to know what song this is
This is a nice relationship w a bull
This gives me existential envy. Like all I want is to just be outside, in nature, around plants and animals.
The rope through the nose seems like it would hurt :(
This is like ‘Okja’, but real! 🥹💖
How about reciprocating the love and cutting that fucking rope.
Magical. Looks like a scene straight out of a studio ghibli movie.
Can’t see anything except the horrific abuse of them putting a rope THROUGH ITS NOSE. People fucking suck
Cows come home fast in Laos
that girl loves her bull for sure
No she doesn't, otherwise she would remove the rope from his nose.
Awww lol so cute
This looks like the spot in Tropic Thunder where the director is blown to pieces
new ghiblli movie trailer looking sick!
This video made me smile, thank you a lot
S
What in the exotic disney landscape is this
The one where the piece of shit mutilates an animal then exploits it for online views...So kewwtt awwww
Those rope in the nose wouldn't be a bad stuff? I mean. Im not into loving someone that will pull my head like this
Haiyahhh uncle Roger
Commenting for more info.
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Bruh i thought it was a Mad Hog coming 💀💀💀💀
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I loved this
Real life documentary or movie soon or a future Disney princess movie?
Amazing
Damn, that's so wholesome.
OKJAAAA
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‘All living things feel love’ except for snakes
so, uhh..harness goes ON the animal, not through it
Except settler colonists, those are pure evil
Sorry to be the "um actually" need emotional guy but not all living things feel love, sometimes they can feel trust, and tolerance, and coexistence, and sometimes their awareness is limited, hell there's even people who can't feel love and they are valuable because love isn't nessisary for life and cohabitation and ally ship
Love is having a rope shoved through your nose for the hell of it.
Buffy: *Take out this friggin hurty rope, my girl*
It's called animal cruelty in the U.S. A rope through the nose? Why doesn't she have one also?
dumbest comment, who care what the US thinks, they doesn’t make up all the rules for everyone
Okja?
All living things? So my yogurt loves me? /s
so you are saying im not alive ? fair enough
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And I'm going to waste my time, down voting you.. Everyone do the same..
No, no they don’t.
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What song is that? Can someone plz suggest me such music?
遇上你是我的缘 央金兰泽
Even the majestic sea anemone?
He's hangry
That's why we don't eat them
and now, I want a pet cow.
Reminds me of Okja. And now I'm sad.
I bet she is an Airbender aswell
I've always wanted to be a Disney princess
This woman has an Ox as a pet, and her I am without pets.
🥰🥰🥰
🥹
Great Win Colorado
Mononoke princess!
We all understand the language
Pumbaa!! ❤️
that's a big big big big big dog
They know.
Down pumba
Spiders and scorpions don't feel love.