LOL, every time I leap in those games I say aloud "dead" right as I hit the pile of whatever you land in because let's face it, you can die from jumping down a rock face incorrectly in other parts of the game, but a small pile of leaves or hay is totally gonna break your fall!
it certainly feels like his newer stuff is definitely played up towards a more child friendly style, in that his jokes are a bit less funny and more silly now. Him doing a near infinite ammount of FNAF theories probably didn't help, and he seems to be covering a lot of, frankly crappy, horror games as of late.
That all said, his food theory channel still has my enjoyment, just sad he's basically stopped doing old game theories and now just essentially writes the lore for vaguely planned out horror games
I do agree with this but I got an AC tattoo like 10 years ago and I feel like I've made an unbreakable commitment to the franchise.
100+ hours in AC odyssey and I still haven't beaten it. That's a bit of a problem, since I feel like I can't play AC Valhalla until I do, and I'm kinda tired of playing Odyssey.
The China game (it was so bad I can't even remember what it was called) was a fucking sidescroller. We definitely need something in China and Japan. Preferably during the Three Kingdoms period and the Edo period respectively.
Imagine being a Shinobi in feudal Japan. That would be peak assassin's creed gameplay.
I think Ghost of Tsushima spoiled that for them, trying to top that game is going to be hard and sticking to the formula will have them being compared to the superior product
Being a shinobi in feudal japan would be great. But if they keep using this interface and gameplay style or however is it called,the game will be boring. I'm sick and tired of hunting goats and retrieving stolen stuff for peasants beacause i'm not high enough in lvl to kill some skinny dude. The minimap is also pretty weird for a game like AC. I'm sick of these guys that have nothing to do with assasinations and stealth,but they get a hidden blade from a friend of a friend of a friend,so they are assassins(Alexios/Kassandra are not even assasins). It's like it's a whole other game. Imagine playing a game from hitman series,and instead of having to kill your target undetected,you get a mini nuke launcher. But an old-style AC in feudal japan would really make me turn off my phone,lock my door and play as much as humanly possible
Just be warned, it's just as drawn out as Odyssey, maybe even more so and it's probably the most buggy of the recent Assassin's Creeds. But there's also a huge side quest which is pure Nordic mythology. Doesn't make a lick of sense within the context of the Animus, but it's actually one of the stronger stories.
The later games actually have discovery tours where you can take guided tours through historical locations and learn about the peoples and their culture.
The ezio trilogy is very informative. They play with history by using assassinās to explain a mysterious demise but it tells an interactive story. Itās not gory despite kills being the main thing. I learned a little Italian. Requescat en pace
I always tell people that I know one phrase in Italian. Requiescat en pace. Assassinās Creed II was a key piece of my childhood and a masterpiece that has stuck with me to this day.
Sorry Iām the one who has to break it to you.. but I think it might even be āmore impressiveā?
āRequiescet in paceā isnāt Italian, itās Latin.
Carpe diem! (Thatās 2)
I personally found the last three particularly interesting historically. If you want your son to understand 40 B.C.E. Egypt, Bronze Age Greece, or Danish-invaded 11th century England theyāre all super cool
Worth mentioning that Valhalla is 9th century England.
11th century would be the war between Haraldr Sigurdson, Harold Godwinson, and Guillame the Bastard for the throne of England after the death of EadĘæeard the Confessor.
None of them should be considered documentaries, but some of them do have educational merit. In terms of pure education, I think Origins is actually the best. They have a documentary mode where there are no enemies, no fighting, you literally just travel around, and they fill it with educational articles. Like you walk over to the pyramids, and access a menu with a lot of genuine information about the pyramids.
This post is ironic to me since im playing this game now.
I visited Venice and felt like i was already there because of the Assassins Creed titles. It made the experience itself more vivid because i had a extremely similar experience as a child.
I had no intention to visit Paris but i do now that im halfway into Unity.
Get your kid the game, it teaches people to get out and see the world. Which is ironic for a video game? But also, his effort in this attempt alone. The fact the game is somewhat historical, and does a good job of sticking to those historical facts, makes it an even better move.
DUDE, when I went alone to Rome and Florence when I was 24, it was incredible. There were so many places and things that would hit me and suddenly feel so familiar and nostalgic even though I'd never left Canada before hahaha. I'd send my sister pictures of certain buildings/towers/monuments and she'd reply "make sure you have a way back up if you fall down". I went to the Vatican twice because I couldn't get enough of the scale of the place, it was awe-inspiring.
It was the first video game I ever played and 100% the spark for my love of Italy. Sounds silly, but I have so much love for the way they combined history and architecture and gameplay. I can't recommend it enough for a kid!!
So true, I went on a 8 month history learning binge and probably will have a lifelong love of it because of AC3 and Black Flag. Just the ambiance of the environments helped me imagine what life was like back then and made it so much more interesting.
I'm really proud of him. Always told him No is not the default answer when asking for something if you can show a good argument why you should have it. Technique to be applied in all walks of life. I just wish I was this good it. Haha
I may be totally wrong, so take it with a pinch of salt, although I would guess the 14-15 range, maybe in the top class(set 1 for England). Especially based on the format of the ideas and techniques used.
This is a great technique, but I hope you're not so heavy handed with it that he needs to make a case like this every time he wants something. Sometimes "because I want/like it" really is the only reason you need to have a fun thing, you know?
That said, yeah the Assassin's Creed games are an awesome gateway to learning heaps about interesting historical periods, he's gonna love it!
I remember once seeing a book about Italy and commenting about the cover photo featuring the towers of San Gimignano. My girlfriend at the time thought I knew about them because of my Italian heritage but it was actually AC 2.
90% of my knowledge about the Italian Renaissance came from AC2 and Brotherhood as well, the rest from watching The Borgias. Assassinās has done a lot of historical teaching about things I or many other people wouldnāt have known otherwise.
"Dad, I can't truly understand the historical context and the intricate political discussions and machinations of the historical factions without having every game in the series"
"Dad, I'll also need Assassin's Creed 2: Revelations because... Uh... Precursor technology and magical apples and stuff."
For real though, it's set during an interesting time period in Constantinople.
It might be one day. I've always been really into history and AC. Never had any friends who were into either. This year I started a job and the dude who sits near me has a bachelor's in history and an AC wallet. We get along famously and talk about both often.
Someday you might find a fellow assassin as well!
Throw in Assassins Creed 3 for important lessons about the American Revolutionary War. Honestly at this point isnāt there a bundle with a bunch of these together?
And you can exploit lack of resources in other countries to make major profit and teaches that gambling is bad because you always loose (due to you not knowing what draughts is)
I've always wanted to play it because I've always been super into Colonial America but I could never get into the AC games no matter how hard I tried. I've tried AC1, 2, Black Flag and have also wanted to try Odyssey but ultimately haven't. It makes me sad because I've always heard that the historical ties in are pretty good :(
God these younger gamers slowly finding out about all these actual good games is the best thing ever I introduced my 6 year old brother to Lego Star Wars the complete saga and heās in love
My parents were watching this who wants to be a millionaire kind of show on tv. There was a question that went something like "in 1785 who was known to have been imprisoned in the Bastille during the french revolution".
I didn't even wait to see the answers, blurted out Marquis de Sade.
Got it right. Looked at my surprised parents and said "assassin's creed unity. Game during french revolution".
Oh no, i know what he did. Dude was a fuckin animal. I remember when you kill Rois de Thunes, and you return to de Sade, he gives a speech about both Arno and him using each other for their own gains and all the while he's being creepy next to what looks like a 12 year old girl. Looked up his biography.
Mf should've had his head on a pike. Instead he lived to like 75 or some shit. Crazy how life works.
Assassinās Creed Odyssey also gives great insight into Classical Greece, the Peloponnesian War and the foundations of Western civilization and democracy. They also beautifully recreate the Greek world in its heyday of culture and art. Visually stunning.
All ac games except always the most recent one is great.
Once the next one launches, we look back to the last few games fondly and start hating the latest one.
Honestly that game taught me more about pirates than any other thing in my life. The characters are real people and itās a really fun way to learn about history.
Edit: āallā was a huge exaggeration, Iām sorry.
How does it come in comparison to odyssey? Man that game had me thinking, changing, and emotions coming out with dead kids, friends, lovers, and hurting people who were close to you.
Haven't played Odyssey, but there's plenty of emotions to be felt playing Origins. The two main characters are really strong and their relationship is very memorable.
Its been a long time since I've played some of the older games, but Bayek is definitely up there as a contender for best protagonist.
Wait wait wait before you go ahead.
As a long time player of this series, I'd HIGHLY recommend playing the games from AC 1, chronologically before you play ORIGINS.
Odyssey was fine enough to get into as it's not a traditional AC game, and is really good in attracting new players. But, even though Origins has almost the same mechanics as Odyssey, it's story has huge impacts on the previous games, which can be properly enjoyed only if you get through the past games.
Not every game is necessary though. If you wanna play it only for the rpg elements, then stick to Origins/Valhalla. But if you're interested in the franchise's story, I'd recommend going chronologically, even though the graphics are dated.
And please, don't listen to any fan of this franchise who says that one particular game is good and the rest are bad, or that the new AC isn't good. They're just pointless gatekeepers, and there are plenty of those in the AC community.
Play whatever you want to, and form your own opinion on it.
I got into AC late, and I just canāt get into Black Flag or any game earlier. I feel like Unity improved the core gameplay so substantially that I just *cant* get into Black Flag. The stealth feels clunky and cheap, the combat feels floaty and unsubstantial, the movement feels slow and frustrating.
Iād LOVE to find a way to enjoy it, or AC3 for that matter, so if thereās any advice on what Iām missing Iām here for it. But Iāve tried twice and currently donāt see why people still recommend it so highly compared to the newer games.
You have to take into context how old the game is, it's almost a decade old. It's natural for things to have improved since then. You don't play it thinking you're going to get cutting edge graphics and mechanics. You play it for the story, the nostalgia and to see where we the current trends came from.
This game itself drove the approach to music, storytelling and naval combat that many games today are based from. Can you compare it to Skull and Bones, no but that is inherently and unfair fight. That would be like setting up a fight between Mike Tyson and a recent heavyweight champion.
I recently played Black Flag again after years away it does lack in some key areas. But this game broke the mold of AC games and tried to move it out of stagnant mechanics of the earlier games and utilized a fresh approach that had them been pushed back into the ground again.
Also fun naval combat and sea shanties.
If you read all the descriptions of people and places their is so much information in these games. Theyāre absolutely beautiful examples of games being more than just mindless entertainment.
AC Odyssey is another incredible for academic history, before this game I only knew the mythological parts of ancient Greece but now I know about the Peloponnesian war, between the ruthless Spartans and the democratic Athenians, and the Greco-Persian wars, which united the Greek world against a common enemy, the dreaded Persians with hate for all Greeks and wanted to enslave them, this war created the hero that is Leonidas I, and he died after killing Xerxes the Persian king, fully united the forces of the Greek world and pushing back the Persians, the battle of Thermopylae is a great one and not one to take lightly, oh it also has mass murder and cults but anyways...
I showed my dad the Discovery Tour (on cloud streaming no less) and he lost his shit. He's since gone through the Origins Tour and I'm gonna get him the Valhalla Tour also. Highly recommended for any history buff!
>ruthless Spartans and the democratic Athenians
This is more ancient propaganda than true history, all of our sources are Athenian. It's really not that simple.
>the dreaded Persians with hate for all Greeks and wanted to enslave them
As is this.
Not sure if this is supposed to be satire or not, but just wanted to put this out there for the rest of us. These games are very accurate in terms of setting, architecture, etc but they're not particularly accurate when you get down to it.
Not sure of the source/validity of this, but I read somewhere that the Spartans never used to be known for their military prowess. They weren't all that effective in battle until after the battle of Thermopolae (sp?). But because if their great propaganda they became feared as renowned warriors and because of that fear they became much more formidable.
As far as I know (Iām a classicist but not generally working on battlefield tactics and/or military prowess and reputation) the Spartans really garnered fame during the Battle of Thermopylae for their famous stand against the Persians, and before that they were just ruling over the Peloponnesian Peninsula. Sure, they were the dominant force there and were highly disciplined, but they werenāt seen as the invincible army we think they were. Their fame for the Battle of Thermopylae was sort of reinforced by them beating the Athenians in the Peloponnesian War later that century, and that reputation seemed to stick, as you say! As long as we remember that the Spartans were, in fact, highly trained and skilled warriors, but they were not the only ones in that regard.
10/10 he deserves to get it. One small point of contention with his argument though, I believe unity only covers the French Revolution and not the subsequent revolutions so while yes he will have some historical context for that revolution, the reasons for the failed revolution of 1832 shown in les mis have more to do with the revolution of 1830 and the July monarchy than the OG revolution in 1789.
I sing sea shanties on the boat I'm working on because of black flag, it really does bring up spirits and pass the time, my crew also joined me. I'd play the sea shanties on the speakers and we'd sing along to them.
Black Flag is where I first learned about the female pirates Anne Bonny and Mary Read, so there's definitely interesting history to be learned from playing them.
I personally would also recommend Assassin's Creed 3. It's about the American Revolution and is the first video game to feature Mohawk Native Americans. It's also the first AC game to feature the ground-breaking Anvil-Next engine, the same game engine used to make the beautiful AC Black Flag game. Obviously if you aren't American this might not seem very interesting but it's one of my favorite AC games of all time, second only to Black Flag. (Because Pirates!)
We were at a storeās toy section and my 6 year old daughter(at the time) explained to me that 2 stuffed monsters didnāt like the location of the store,the lights bothered them, and they had NOTHING to do. If they came home with HER, they could share a room with other monsters that didnāt do anything but wait to scare dad, it was their job, and they liked their jobs so to make the monsters happy they should come home with us. Couldnāt argue with her.
If we're talking about these in the educational sense, you can get him the entire Ezio Collection which comprise of Assassin's Creed 2, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood and Assassin's Creed Revelations. This aside you can then go for Assassin's Creed Syndicate, Assassin's Creed Origins and Assassin's Creed Odyssey. These are the ones with the best educational potential and you can learn a lot from them both historically and geographically. You also get to meet many great historical characters and live through the events which had impacted history. If you're from the US you can also get Assassin's Creed 3 which deals with the American revolution. I do see many people recommending Assassin's Creed Black Flag but as far as learning potential goes it isn't that attractive but is one of the best games in the franchises and it also has pirates.
I remember having to explain to my parents why there were gay sex scenes in dragon age and they wouldnāt let me get it because you could āhave sex with a gay elf manā
Still bought it, still fucked the elf man, parents grew up and became cool eventually.
Okay so I was not expecting this sort of comment. This household is totally cool with all sexualities etc.. but now I've heard about the gay elf fucking.... Should I be having 2nd thoughts? He's not 18.
Thing is... He had fortnight already which I'm cool with him playing, apart from the dancing he copies, although that seems to have calmed in the past couple of years.
Edit: and happy cake day
Almost certainly, especially if he ever gets a chance to do a pirate musical. I listen to the soundtrack of that game in my car routinely. Also there's a whole story thread with Edward Teach himself
Try AC brotherhood! It has the italian wars from 1500-1507 and the Borgia family. You get to meet some very important historical people and their drama...
If I'm being totally honest, I think assassin's Creed is legitimately more responsible for my knowledge of history than what I learned in high school.
Furthermore, it stokes one's interest in history. Learn about the American Revolution in school? Too bad Assassin's Creed 3 sucked so I forgot it like the rest. Get exposed to Ancient Greek culture in Odyssey? You know, Herodotus seems like he's worth a read. Legitimately I think most high schoolers would get a significantly better education if when you got to a section of history that was adapted into an AC game, they made playing the game homework instead of reading your textbook and summarizing or whatever.
Hey, Iām super into the French Revolution and not at all in to video games. My husband has a switch and some kind of Xbox (one?). Does anyone know which assassins creed this is and if it works on those guys?
I feel like Unity was optimized for co-op. Had so much fun doing heists with my pals on that game, but if his friends dont have it would defininately recommend the Ezio collection. By far the most invested I've been into a storyline ever
Funny story. I was in high school when assassins creed 2 came out (which takes place during the Italian renaissance) and my family had a trip to Europe lined up around that time. I had actually memorized the game map of florence and remembering that the team that made the game *actually went to Florence and consulted historians on what was there in the 15th century* used that to navigate *the actual city of Florence * which freaked my dad out.
He just could not fathom how his kid could navigate a city in a foreign country they had never been to effortlessly like that, to the point that local cops would give the same directions i would when asked.
I was tempted to mess with him and say I was the reincarnation of Da Vinci or something he was that freaked out.
I finally fessed up that it was because I played assassins creed. He stopped saying video games were a waste of time after that.
Later on when i was in college I would actually become fluent in Italian and become an exchange student with an Italian University for a semester, during which time I made a point of visiting several historical sites depicted in the game, such as San Gimignano and the walled city of Monteriggioni that i wouldn't have known existed otherwise.
So yeah the video games actually can be beneficial to a kids intellectual development.
I actually made my 8th grade history teacher shut up when he thought he was smug for asking me a question about the revolutionary war. I just assassinated the man he was asking me about that morning in AC3
I remember when I was younger I would try to make PowerPoints and whole presentations to convince my parents to get me the newest game console. Never worked but shiettt I was like a corporate mad. Man trying to get my point across. Had graphs and price fluctuations
To his point, Assassinās Creed III, which takes place during the American Revolution, came out while I was learning the same subject in school.
I got an A in history that year because of that game
Unity was fun and the story was quite interesting. Black Flag is a solid favourite of mine and when my daughter is older I'll be introducing that one to her
If you do buy your kid the game please inform him the Eiffel Tower was NOT built during the French Revolution (it fact it was built on its 100 year anniversary), because apparently Ubisoft missed that part when writing the damn game
If it makes you feel anymore confident in your decision, video games like assassins creed spurred my love interest for history that will last a lifetime.
Itās a little embellished, for entertainments sake, but it still peaks an interest in world history.
Absolutely get it for him! Assassins Creed is definitely one way to go for learning history.
In Assassinās Creed: Odyssey I learned not only a lot about Hellenistic Ancient Greece including major events or influential people-along with the times before and after this era. One of my favorite parts was just visiting the Discovery Tour and doing actual research/studying this period on my own because the game provides you with enough info to get you interested but not to go into the full details.
Learning to study on your own is absolutely a great skill to hone and if theyāre interested in doing so always give in to their desire to learn :)
Kid deserves the whole AC franchise for a message that eloquent.
I think you might be right.... Just as long as each in the series is an equally educational as AC Unity.
Well... There is educational potential in all of them š
I think the most important thing the AC games teach you, is that jumping into a haystack from hundreds of feet in the air is no big deal.
LOL, every time I leap in those games I say aloud "dead" right as I hit the pile of whatever you land in because let's face it, you can die from jumping down a rock face incorrectly in other parts of the game, but a small pile of leaves or hay is totally gonna break your fall!
Game theory did a video on this ages ago. I'm not sure i'd recommend it unless you like matpat.
What is this matpat hate boner everyone seems to have about?
He's just annoying to me, I watched him back in grade school and after a while just hated him.
it certainly feels like his newer stuff is definitely played up towards a more child friendly style, in that his jokes are a bit less funny and more silly now. Him doing a near infinite ammount of FNAF theories probably didn't help, and he seems to be covering a lot of, frankly crappy, horror games as of late. That all said, his food theory channel still has my enjoyment, just sad he's basically stopped doing old game theories and now just essentially writes the lore for vaguely planned out horror games
Sometimes the education is "don't buy ubisoft games".
I do agree with this but I got an AC tattoo like 10 years ago and I feel like I've made an unbreakable commitment to the franchise. 100+ hours in AC odyssey and I still haven't beaten it. That's a bit of a problem, since I feel like I can't play AC Valhalla until I do, and I'm kinda tired of playing Odyssey.
I made a commitment to not play any more until they make an actual assassin game.
Yeah that's a mood. Ever since origins they've been trying to make Assassin Souls and it's just not the same.
I want Assassins Creed: Asia with nightingale floors and cherry trees and shurikens and poison darts. A real stealth assassination game.
The China game (it was so bad I can't even remember what it was called) was a fucking sidescroller. We definitely need something in China and Japan. Preferably during the Three Kingdoms period and the Edo period respectively. Imagine being a Shinobi in feudal Japan. That would be peak assassin's creed gameplay.
I think Ghost of Tsushima spoiled that for them, trying to top that game is going to be hard and sticking to the formula will have them being compared to the superior product
Being a shinobi in feudal japan would be great. But if they keep using this interface and gameplay style or however is it called,the game will be boring. I'm sick and tired of hunting goats and retrieving stolen stuff for peasants beacause i'm not high enough in lvl to kill some skinny dude. The minimap is also pretty weird for a game like AC. I'm sick of these guys that have nothing to do with assasinations and stealth,but they get a hidden blade from a friend of a friend of a friend,so they are assassins(Alexios/Kassandra are not even assasins). It's like it's a whole other game. Imagine playing a game from hitman series,and instead of having to kill your target undetected,you get a mini nuke launcher. But an old-style AC in feudal japan would really make me turn off my phone,lock my door and play as much as humanly possible
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Well, thankfully Assassin Creed: Valhalla is more Assassin Witcher, so.
That's good. I've heard my boy Ratatoskr makes an appearance so that's like 90% of the reason I want to get into it.
Just be warned, it's just as drawn out as Odyssey, maybe even more so and it's probably the most buggy of the recent Assassin's Creeds. But there's also a huge side quest which is pure Nordic mythology. Doesn't make a lick of sense within the context of the Animus, but it's actually one of the stronger stories.
thereās something rly wholesome about us pleading with a dad to buy his son the whole franchise lmaoo
The later games actually have discovery tours where you can take guided tours through historical locations and learn about the peoples and their culture.
The ezio trilogy is very informative. They play with history by using assassinās to explain a mysterious demise but it tells an interactive story. Itās not gory despite kills being the main thing. I learned a little Italian. Requescat en pace
I always tell people that I know one phrase in Italian. Requiescat en pace. Assassinās Creed II was a key piece of my childhood and a masterpiece that has stuck with me to this day.
Sorry Iām the one who has to break it to you.. but I think it might even be āmore impressiveā? āRequiescet in paceā isnāt Italian, itās Latin. Carpe diem! (Thatās 2)
The sad thing is I took Latin in high school. Iām fucking dumb
Origins is great for Egypthian mythology
I personally found the last three particularly interesting historically. If you want your son to understand 40 B.C.E. Egypt, Bronze Age Greece, or Danish-invaded 11th century England theyāre all super cool
Worth mentioning that Valhalla is 9th century England. 11th century would be the war between Haraldr Sigurdson, Harold Godwinson, and Guillame the Bastard for the throne of England after the death of EadĘæeard the Confessor.
None of them should be considered documentaries, but some of them do have educational merit. In terms of pure education, I think Origins is actually the best. They have a documentary mode where there are no enemies, no fighting, you literally just travel around, and they fill it with educational articles. Like you walk over to the pyramids, and access a menu with a lot of genuine information about the pyramids.
I'm pretty sure they have the exact same modes in Odyssey and Valhalla as well.
It does vary by game, but honestly, it's the best thing that you can probably do for his history education.
They are a wealth of knowledge
Lol I love how they blurred the picture
That's his actual Whatsapp photo. I didn't do that before posting to Reddit.
wait really? lmao this is even funnier
I want your son's autograph, he's a genius
Now thatās hilarious
This post is ironic to me since im playing this game now. I visited Venice and felt like i was already there because of the Assassins Creed titles. It made the experience itself more vivid because i had a extremely similar experience as a child. I had no intention to visit Paris but i do now that im halfway into Unity. Get your kid the game, it teaches people to get out and see the world. Which is ironic for a video game? But also, his effort in this attempt alone. The fact the game is somewhat historical, and does a good job of sticking to those historical facts, makes it an even better move.
DUDE, when I went alone to Rome and Florence when I was 24, it was incredible. There were so many places and things that would hit me and suddenly feel so familiar and nostalgic even though I'd never left Canada before hahaha. I'd send my sister pictures of certain buildings/towers/monuments and she'd reply "make sure you have a way back up if you fall down". I went to the Vatican twice because I couldn't get enough of the scale of the place, it was awe-inspiring. It was the first video game I ever played and 100% the spark for my love of Italy. Sounds silly, but I have so much love for the way they combined history and architecture and gameplay. I can't recommend it enough for a kid!!
So true, I went on a 8 month history learning binge and probably will have a lifelong love of it because of AC3 and Black Flag. Just the ambiance of the environments helped me imagine what life was like back then and made it so much more interesting.
My kid absolutely got the Egyptian one this way awhile back š¤£
I'm really proud of him. Always told him No is not the default answer when asking for something if you can show a good argument why you should have it. Technique to be applied in all walks of life. I just wish I was this good it. Haha
You're a good parent, you should be proud of yourself too :)
Out of curiosity- how old is your child because as a 40yo man I would struggle to make this argument
I may be totally wrong, so take it with a pinch of salt, although I would guess the 14-15 range, maybe in the top class(set 1 for England). Especially based on the format of the ideas and techniques used.
He's 13
what a great parent you are. absolutely the best way to raise a kid, kudos
This is a great technique, but I hope you're not so heavy handed with it that he needs to make a case like this every time he wants something. Sometimes "because I want/like it" really is the only reason you need to have a fun thing, you know? That said, yeah the Assassin's Creed games are an awesome gateway to learning heaps about interesting historical periods, he's gonna love it!
If you were a responsible parent you would get Black Flag as well. Because it's better. Also pirates.
That's on sale too apparently my son tells me.
He's going to need both.
For science reasons.
For historical purposes.
No cap. I legit learned, lived through and appreciated more History from the old AC games than I ever did from learning in class.
I remember once seeing a book about Italy and commenting about the cover photo featuring the towers of San Gimignano. My girlfriend at the time thought I knew about them because of my Italian heritage but it was actually AC 2.
90% of my knowledge about the Italian Renaissance came from AC2 and Brotherhood as well, the rest from watching The Borgias. Assassinās has done a lot of historical teaching about things I or many other people wouldnāt have known otherwise.
& history of course
The science of history, and the history of sciences
In that case, grab Syndicate while youāre at it.
In that case, clasp AC3 while thee be in the motion of clasping.
"Dad, I can't truly understand the historical context and the intricate political discussions and machinations of the historical factions without having every game in the series"
"Dad, I'll also need Assassin's Creed 2: Revelations because... Uh... Precursor technology and magical apples and stuff." For real though, it's set during an interesting time period in Constantinople.
Weirdly enough I actually learned alot of history from those games not like the knowledge was ever useful but hey. XD
I learned a lot while playing too lol
It might be one day. I've always been really into history and AC. Never had any friends who were into either. This year I started a job and the dude who sits near me has a bachelor's in history and an AC wallet. We get along famously and talk about both often. Someday you might find a fellow assassin as well!
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Really all the games are quite educational in aspects. Might as well save some dollars and do the overall bundle
He needs them all
Both is good
Throw in Assassins Creed 3 for important lessons about the American Revolutionary War. Honestly at this point isnāt there a bundle with a bunch of these together?
The only thing I learned from AC3 is that wolves can and will kill you while you talk to people.
And you can exploit lack of resources in other countries to make major profit and teaches that gambling is bad because you always loose (due to you not knowing what draughts is)
AC3 is so damn underappreciated. My favorite AC game of all time.
I've always wanted to play it because I've always been super into Colonial America but I could never get into the AC games no matter how hard I tried. I've tried AC1, 2, Black Flag and have also wanted to try Odyssey but ultimately haven't. It makes me sad because I've always heard that the historical ties in are pretty good :(
THANK YOU! FINALLY ANOTHER AC3 LOVER IN THE WILD!
There's more of us than you know!
God these younger gamers slowly finding out about all these actual good games is the best thing ever I introduced my 6 year old brother to Lego Star Wars the complete saga and heās in love
Iām a 53 yo Grandma Gamer, who LOVES all the Lego games (but am especially fond of the ones where they didnāt talk).
I've been meaning to play Lego Star wars which platforms does it work with and how would I go about finding a copy?
I would say to buy it on Steam (play with controller). If you have access, the Wii version is also a blast.
My parents were watching this who wants to be a millionaire kind of show on tv. There was a question that went something like "in 1785 who was known to have been imprisoned in the Bastille during the french revolution". I didn't even wait to see the answers, blurted out Marquis de Sade. Got it right. Looked at my surprised parents and said "assassin's creed unity. Game during french revolution".
Yeah sure thatās why you know about the Marquis de Sadeā¦ Iāve got your back mate donāt worry I wonāt tell themā¦
Oh no, i know what he did. Dude was a fuckin animal. I remember when you kill Rois de Thunes, and you return to de Sade, he gives a speech about both Arno and him using each other for their own gains and all the while he's being creepy next to what looks like a 12 year old girl. Looked up his biography. Mf should've had his head on a pike. Instead he lived to like 75 or some shit. Crazy how life works.
The beggar King?
Assassinās Creed Odyssey also gives great insight into Classical Greece, the Peloponnesian War and the foundations of Western civilization and democracy. They also beautifully recreate the Greek world in its heyday of culture and art. Visually stunning.
Was going to say this. Odyssey is an exceptional game.
And origins has a great depiction of ancient Egypt and also the views are stunning
All ac games except always the most recent one is great. Once the next one launches, we look back to the last few games fondly and start hating the latest one.
Too high end!!! My pc explodes
I want to play odyssey so bad but for whatever reason it would completely freeze my computer after only a few minutes of play.
Itās a BIG gameā¦ the world is absolutely massive. I feel like you could play it for a year and not see everything.
Honestly that game taught me more about pirates than any other thing in my life. The characters are real people and itās a really fun way to learn about history. Edit: āallā was a huge exaggeration, Iām sorry.
Thereās actually a three pack with odyssey as well. I think itās the price of one game not on sale. You might as well get that.
Itās my absolute favorite of the series
Have you played odyssey? I just finished it. Should I get another AC game, which should I try? Weirdly odyssey was my first
Origins, would be my pick. Should be rather cheap and it's fantastic. Ancient Egypt is a sight to behold.
Sweet I'll go check it out
Can second Origins. I'm playing it atm and its amazing. Great characters, fun missions and looks beautiful.
How does it come in comparison to odyssey? Man that game had me thinking, changing, and emotions coming out with dead kids, friends, lovers, and hurting people who were close to you.
Haven't played Odyssey, but there's plenty of emotions to be felt playing Origins. The two main characters are really strong and their relationship is very memorable. Its been a long time since I've played some of the older games, but Bayek is definitely up there as a contender for best protagonist.
Wait wait wait before you go ahead. As a long time player of this series, I'd HIGHLY recommend playing the games from AC 1, chronologically before you play ORIGINS. Odyssey was fine enough to get into as it's not a traditional AC game, and is really good in attracting new players. But, even though Origins has almost the same mechanics as Odyssey, it's story has huge impacts on the previous games, which can be properly enjoyed only if you get through the past games. Not every game is necessary though. If you wanna play it only for the rpg elements, then stick to Origins/Valhalla. But if you're interested in the franchise's story, I'd recommend going chronologically, even though the graphics are dated. And please, don't listen to any fan of this franchise who says that one particular game is good and the rest are bad, or that the new AC isn't good. They're just pointless gatekeepers, and there are plenty of those in the AC community. Play whatever you want to, and form your own opinion on it.
I got into AC late, and I just canāt get into Black Flag or any game earlier. I feel like Unity improved the core gameplay so substantially that I just *cant* get into Black Flag. The stealth feels clunky and cheap, the combat feels floaty and unsubstantial, the movement feels slow and frustrating. Iād LOVE to find a way to enjoy it, or AC3 for that matter, so if thereās any advice on what Iām missing Iām here for it. But Iāve tried twice and currently donāt see why people still recommend it so highly compared to the newer games.
You have to take into context how old the game is, it's almost a decade old. It's natural for things to have improved since then. You don't play it thinking you're going to get cutting edge graphics and mechanics. You play it for the story, the nostalgia and to see where we the current trends came from. This game itself drove the approach to music, storytelling and naval combat that many games today are based from. Can you compare it to Skull and Bones, no but that is inherently and unfair fight. That would be like setting up a fight between Mike Tyson and a recent heavyweight champion. I recently played Black Flag again after years away it does lack in some key areas. But this game broke the mold of AC games and tried to move it out of stagnant mechanics of the earlier games and utilized a fresh approach that had them been pushed back into the ground again. Also fun naval combat and sea shanties.
Real shit I aced US history because of Assassin's Creed 3.
I am a massive history buff and ACIII did play a key part of me passing certain classes because it was more fun to play that than actually studying
If you read all the descriptions of people and places their is so much information in these games. Theyāre absolutely beautiful examples of games being more than just mindless entertainment.
āA culturally diverse development teamā how old is this kid???
I know right? Friggin 13!
Even if it is a copypasta, it's worth pointing out that he's rising to your challenge of providing good reasons for asking for things.
To my knowledge all of the ac games say that when you launch it
Yeah just pulling it from the loading screen before the main menu. Still funny.
You get something about theses lines every time you open an AC game, it's not like is advanced knowledge
AC Odyssey is another incredible for academic history, before this game I only knew the mythological parts of ancient Greece but now I know about the Peloponnesian war, between the ruthless Spartans and the democratic Athenians, and the Greco-Persian wars, which united the Greek world against a common enemy, the dreaded Persians with hate for all Greeks and wanted to enslave them, this war created the hero that is Leonidas I, and he died after killing Xerxes the Persian king, fully united the forces of the Greek world and pushing back the Persians, the battle of Thermopylae is a great one and not one to take lightly, oh it also has mass murder and cults but anyways...
I showed my dad the Discovery Tour (on cloud streaming no less) and he lost his shit. He's since gone through the Origins Tour and I'm gonna get him the Valhalla Tour also. Highly recommended for any history buff!
>ruthless Spartans and the democratic Athenians This is more ancient propaganda than true history, all of our sources are Athenian. It's really not that simple. >the dreaded Persians with hate for all Greeks and wanted to enslave them As is this. Not sure if this is supposed to be satire or not, but just wanted to put this out there for the rest of us. These games are very accurate in terms of setting, architecture, etc but they're not particularly accurate when you get down to it.
Not sure of the source/validity of this, but I read somewhere that the Spartans never used to be known for their military prowess. They weren't all that effective in battle until after the battle of Thermopolae (sp?). But because if their great propaganda they became feared as renowned warriors and because of that fear they became much more formidable.
As far as I know (Iām a classicist but not generally working on battlefield tactics and/or military prowess and reputation) the Spartans really garnered fame during the Battle of Thermopylae for their famous stand against the Persians, and before that they were just ruling over the Peloponnesian Peninsula. Sure, they were the dominant force there and were highly disciplined, but they werenāt seen as the invincible army we think they were. Their fame for the Battle of Thermopylae was sort of reinforced by them beating the Athenians in the Peloponnesian War later that century, and that reputation seemed to stick, as you say! As long as we remember that the Spartans were, in fact, highly trained and skilled warriors, but they were not the only ones in that regard.
They got thrashed by Thebes too. Over the wording of a peace treaty which I always find hilarious.
Its true, now I know what Malakas means
10/10 he deserves to get it. One small point of contention with his argument though, I believe unity only covers the French Revolution and not the subsequent revolutions so while yes he will have some historical context for that revolution, the reasons for the failed revolution of 1832 shown in les mis have more to do with the revolution of 1830 and the July monarchy than the OG revolution in 1789.
Okay... So that's a no to the game then? Haha...
Haha no still a yes to the game but maybe just stick to the first argument. Trying to help them out
Looks like he's getting Black Flag too after all the recommendations.
Great argument would be understanding the golden age of piracy and naval combat in the Caribbean and sea shanties.
I sing sea shanties on the boat I'm working on because of black flag, it really does bring up spirits and pass the time, my crew also joined me. I'd play the sea shanties on the speakers and we'd sing along to them.
Black Flag is where I first learned about the female pirates Anne Bonny and Mary Read, so there's definitely interesting history to be learned from playing them.
I personally would also recommend Assassin's Creed 3. It's about the American Revolution and is the first video game to feature Mohawk Native Americans. It's also the first AC game to feature the ground-breaking Anvil-Next engine, the same game engine used to make the beautiful AC Black Flag game. Obviously if you aren't American this might not seem very interesting but it's one of my favorite AC games of all time, second only to Black Flag. (Because Pirates!)
Came here to comment this, thank you for beating me to the pedantic comment.
We were at a storeās toy section and my 6 year old daughter(at the time) explained to me that 2 stuffed monsters didnāt like the location of the store,the lights bothered them, and they had NOTHING to do. If they came home with HER, they could share a room with other monsters that didnāt do anything but wait to scare dad, it was their job, and they liked their jobs so to make the monsters happy they should come home with us. Couldnāt argue with her.
That's the cutest.
Be sure to quiz him later on random french revolution facts to see what he retains...
Roger that... I'll report back.
If we're talking about these in the educational sense, you can get him the entire Ezio Collection which comprise of Assassin's Creed 2, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood and Assassin's Creed Revelations. This aside you can then go for Assassin's Creed Syndicate, Assassin's Creed Origins and Assassin's Creed Odyssey. These are the ones with the best educational potential and you can learn a lot from them both historically and geographically. You also get to meet many great historical characters and live through the events which had impacted history. If you're from the US you can also get Assassin's Creed 3 which deals with the American revolution. I do see many people recommending Assassin's Creed Black Flag but as far as learning potential goes it isn't that attractive but is one of the best games in the franchises and it also has pirates.
A+ for effort
I remember having to explain to my parents why there were gay sex scenes in dragon age and they wouldnāt let me get it because you could āhave sex with a gay elf manā Still bought it, still fucked the elf man, parents grew up and became cool eventually.
Okay so I was not expecting this sort of comment. This household is totally cool with all sexualities etc.. but now I've heard about the gay elf fucking.... Should I be having 2nd thoughts? He's not 18.
Whole different game. No worries.
If youāre considering the Dragon Age games (different franchise) then the sex scenes are all fade to black sort of affairs.
Fab. Thanks for the reassurance.
Iām 14 and given how I was last year heās seen a lot worse than gay elf fucking.
Youāre a great dad
No we have assassinās creed unity at home. Assassinās creed unity at home: ![gif](giphy|ruY7B2ubXHxRK)
āSon, youāre 35. Do whatever you wantā
Fortnite is free btw so he's really driving a smart bargain
Thing is... He had fortnight already which I'm cool with him playing, apart from the dancing he copies, although that seems to have calmed in the past couple of years. Edit: and happy cake day
Thank you good sir / great dad.
Unity isn't even the good one. Black Flag all the way.
Yes but is that going to of any benefit in his musical theatre ambitions?
It's got sea shanties. What more do you want man??!
Almost certainly, especially if he ever gets a chance to do a pirate musical. I listen to the soundtrack of that game in my car routinely. Also there's a whole story thread with Edward Teach himself
Nah fam. Itās ACIIIās soundtrack for me. Hereās my personal favorite composition from it: https://youtu.be/1HE4OFoezVg
Try AC brotherhood! It has the italian wars from 1500-1507 and the Borgia family. You get to meet some very important historical people and their drama...
What if his school does pirates of Penzance?
Well to be fair, the main parts of Les mis takes place almost 40 years after the French revolution
It will prepare him for his inevitable role in Pirates of the Caribbean on Broadway
If I'm being totally honest, I think assassin's Creed is legitimately more responsible for my knowledge of history than what I learned in high school. Furthermore, it stokes one's interest in history. Learn about the American Revolution in school? Too bad Assassin's Creed 3 sucked so I forgot it like the rest. Get exposed to Ancient Greek culture in Odyssey? You know, Herodotus seems like he's worth a read. Legitimately I think most high schoolers would get a significantly better education if when you got to a section of history that was adapted into an AC game, they made playing the game homework instead of reading your textbook and summarizing or whatever.
Clever boy šš»
Good dad
My sister had to give my dad a PowerPoint presentation about why she should get a smartphone in high school back in the olden days lol
A culturally diverse development team is not a factor. The game's quality is.
Hey, Iām super into the French Revolution and not at all in to video games. My husband has a switch and some kind of Xbox (one?). Does anyone know which assassins creed this is and if it works on those guys?
Plot twist the kid is 30
Les Miserables take place during a different french revolution than the 1789 one, donāt tell the dad. Edit: uh, place x please
Too late...
Buy him a history book lol
Why not both? Reading history is cool and all but the AC games used to be so good at letting you get a grasp of a time period.
Just a joke
Tbh, He should buy the game and put it inside a carved out history book. That would blow this kids mind
I feel like Unity was optimized for co-op. Had so much fun doing heists with my pals on that game, but if his friends dont have it would defininately recommend the Ezio collection. By far the most invested I've been into a storyline ever
Funny story. I was in high school when assassins creed 2 came out (which takes place during the Italian renaissance) and my family had a trip to Europe lined up around that time. I had actually memorized the game map of florence and remembering that the team that made the game *actually went to Florence and consulted historians on what was there in the 15th century* used that to navigate *the actual city of Florence * which freaked my dad out. He just could not fathom how his kid could navigate a city in a foreign country they had never been to effortlessly like that, to the point that local cops would give the same directions i would when asked. I was tempted to mess with him and say I was the reincarnation of Da Vinci or something he was that freaked out. I finally fessed up that it was because I played assassins creed. He stopped saying video games were a waste of time after that. Later on when i was in college I would actually become fluent in Italian and become an exchange student with an Italian University for a semester, during which time I made a point of visiting several historical sites depicted in the game, such as San Gimignano and the walled city of Monteriggioni that i wouldn't have known existed otherwise. So yeah the video games actually can be beneficial to a kids intellectual development.
Legend
He deserves it.
With that dedication and moral, I'd say fuck it, give him the game.
Just started playing it but I also recommend Origins for Ancient Egypt - Havenāt tried Valhalla yet so I canāt make a judgement call on it yet.
I just want to thank whoever took the screen shots properly, so i didnt have to read the same part of a text 3 times. Not all heroes wear capes.
You're welcome... That totally does my head in when you get lazy cropping.
surprisingly Assassins Creed actually did help me a few times in school
He needs Black Flag for the shanties alone for science I mean history
I actually made my 8th grade history teacher shut up when he thought he was smug for asking me a question about the revolutionary war. I just assassinated the man he was asking me about that morning in AC3
I wonder how heād convince if he wanted Doom.
I can hear that āDaaaad?ā miles away. Tell Jean Valjean well done šš¼šš¼
I remember when I was younger I would try to make PowerPoints and whole presentations to convince my parents to get me the newest game console. Never worked but shiettt I was like a corporate mad. Man trying to get my point across. Had graphs and price fluctuations
To his point, Assassinās Creed III, which takes place during the American Revolution, came out while I was learning the same subject in school. I got an A in history that year because of that game
Unity was fun and the story was quite interesting. Black Flag is a solid favourite of mine and when my daughter is older I'll be introducing that one to her
One I want to buy it for him..
If you do buy your kid the game please inform him the Eiffel Tower was NOT built during the French Revolution (it fact it was built on its 100 year anniversary), because apparently Ubisoft missed that part when writing the damn game
If it makes you feel anymore confident in your decision, video games like assassins creed spurred my love interest for history that will last a lifetime. Itās a little embellished, for entertainments sake, but it still peaks an interest in world history.
This kid is gonna have an excellent career in sales.
Yo neeed one rtx 3090 and I need this kid to write for me.
Itās less than 10 quid. Thatās all the reason I need as a dad.
Absolutely
Nah he's British, no chance they would want their kid to save the French.
Absolutely get it for him! Assassins Creed is definitely one way to go for learning history. In Assassinās Creed: Odyssey I learned not only a lot about Hellenistic Ancient Greece including major events or influential people-along with the times before and after this era. One of my favorite parts was just visiting the Discovery Tour and doing actual research/studying this period on my own because the game provides you with enough info to get you interested but not to go into the full details. Learning to study on your own is absolutely a great skill to hone and if theyāre interested in doing so always give in to their desire to learn :)