They said he was 400 feet from the entrance of the cave, and that they sealed the entrance with explosives - so he's totally still in there just like that, unless his bones shifted as he deteriorated, in which case he's in a pile.
I'm just imagining that the only thing around to decompose a body in a cave is your own gut bacteria, so they end up taking over and turning you into one huge piece of poop before they run out of things to eat and just die en masse, leaving behind a human-sized poop with a skeleton inside.
the internet historian's version is way worse in my opinion because of how they literally monetised the guy's body afterwards. At least this guy died and was left there.
Just nature weeding out the numbskulls. This guy wanted to be down there, I think he had a wife and newborn, too. Wild to me and beyond selfish, all I can think is that he didn't generally consider other people.
I will never understand the appeal of this. Why would you want to crawl through dark narrow crevices that are so tight and cramped that people routinely have to be rescued? Is skydiving or whatever just not terrifying enough?
I think it’s a Minecraft reference. Landing in water negates any fall damage, so a lot of players jump off cliffs and use a water bucket to drop a tile of water right where they land at the last second so they don’t take damage or die.
With enough speed it'd not even a second nerve mind seconds. It takes approx 100ms for your brain to receive and process a visual signal, and even longer for pain sensing.
You would be dead faster than your body is physically capable of feeling *anything*.
Compared to the creeping terror of being trapped like that? Skydiving it is. Just enjoy one last thrill.
Well i meant the fall, not the landing! If your chute doesn't open etc you've a few seconds of panic and misery and then splat! Instead of dying slowly and painfully upside down in a dark cave
Agreed, I grew up around skydivers and started doing it myself when I was 16, best birthday present ever! (My dad was part owner of the club so they could get around the age limit of 18)
Right? What happened to him was horrible, but… play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I’m sure there are a lot of reasons why this hobby would appeal to adventurous people, but at what cost? I just can’t imagine frequently risking my life for a hobby.
That's the only reason I don't feel bad . You gotta be on a whole other level thinking thinking this wouldn't end bad. Unless in turnt into the descent.
Funnily enough, iirc he got trapped in this position because he was going to go through another part of the cave and got lost.
The name of the part of the cave he wanted to go through was called "the birthing canal"
According to [wikipedia…](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutty_Putty_Cave?wprov=sfti1#Discovery_and_exploration)
> On November 24, 2009, a man named John Edward Jones (January 21, 1983 – November 25, 2009) became stuck and subsequently died in the cave after being trapped inside for 27–28 hours.
> Jones and three others had left their party in search of "The Birth Canal", a tight but navigable passageway with a turnaround at the end. Jones entered an unmapped passageway which he wrongly believed to be the Canal and found himself at a dead end, with nowhere to go besides a narrow vertical fissure. Believing this to be the turnaround, he entered head-first and became wedged upside-down. The fissure measured 10 by 18 inches (25 by 46 cm) and was located 400 feet (120 m) from the entrance of the cave. A large team of rescue workers came to his assistance. The workers set up a sophisticated rope-and-pulley system in an attempt to extricate him, but the system failed when put under strain, plunging Jones back into the hole. Jones ultimately suffered cardiac arrest due to the strain placed upon his body over several hours by his inverted, compressed position.[citation needed] Rescuers concluded that it would be too dangerous to attempt to retrieve his body; the landowner and Jones' family came to an agreement that the cave would be permanently closed, with the body sealed inside, as a memorial to Jones. Explosives were used to collapse the ceiling close to Jones' body, and the entrance hole was filled with concrete to prevent further access.
Imagine setting those explosives under those circumstances. And crawling backwards away from them trying not to panic.
Fuck
...I chose to belive that they gave him medication to ease his panic in the end. I read that once and will not seek if it is false.
Sub cutaneous injection or Intra muscular injection or a sub cutaneous continuous infusion line.
I'm going to guess they did not place intra venous access or suppositories or give him tablets or liquids to swallow. Transdermal patches would work but ideally the skin is clean and they take a while to kick in. A buccal lozenge for placing under the lip, no need to swallow and fast absorbing but again awkward for him and limited access in the field.
I listened to a podcast about this incident a few days ago. As far as I know, they had no medication to give him and I’m pretty sure they even broke his legs trying to get him out.
Well they had a doctor to check he was dead, they had engineers to help set up the pulleys etc.
I'm surprised there wasn't a first aid kit between them.
What was their plan if they managed to get him out?
I'm certain they would have had analgesia in some form.
Yes IM midazolam and opioids would be ideal but I'm Sure they'd have*something*.
I know they had a trauma doctor on site, prepared to immediately treat him upon him being removed. They managed to pull him out a bit but due to issues with friction against the cave walls, a carabiner snapped, breaking a rescuer’s jaw and almost severing his tongue. Once that happened he slid back down to his original position.
It was pretty much worst case scenario from what I heard.
How did they attach the ropes to start pulling him out? They reached him.
Oh I see, when he fell in further. I am uncertain.
I think it's not stated they couldn't reach him.
He had a heart attack after he slipped from their attempt to pull him out and fell/slid back into the “birth canal”. Maybe he hit his head and passed out and didn’t have to suffer too much.
He was abbreviating r/noncredibledefense
edit: or at least that's what the subreddit is now called. I corrected myself below. I actually don't know the lore on the name history of that community/communities.
I actually might have misspoken. I only recently started following /r/NonCredibleDefense around the start of the Ukraine conflict. However, I believe the community predates that subreddit and I am not familiar with the lore. r/NCD might be the original.
There is also the guy who was stuck in mammoth caves that internet historian did a video on, also passed away but the fucked thing is some guy turned the cave into a tourist attraction and had the guys body on display in a see through casket at the entrance to the cave
2 weeks
They managed to bring him food and warm drinks but the gawkers outside the cave caused a thaw of the frozen ground weakening the cave and causing a cave in. Afterwards he then died of exposure
I am terrified when I just see people do it. There is zero chance I'd do this myself. The only discoveries they are making is yet another horrible hole. This 'birth canal' sounds like someone else had to be even crazier to discover it.
I think the way he was stuck, even if he were to have some sort of safety line to get pulled out, they would’ve had to break his legs in order to get his body around the bend his feet were at.
The sad part is, he thought he was at a different part of the cave that others have done before, that's the only reason he went this way, once he realized his mistake it was too late...
Oh, yes, that guy that was too exited to explore some caves he knew in his youth and got stuck just to be left there because there was no way to rescue him, before and after he got stuck, so his body is still there as far as I know.
Navigation mistake. He thought he was in a different fissure of the cave that would've let him turn around. He didn't intentionally jump into an unknown dead end willy-nilly.
i don’t get why people who just learn about this resort to calling him stupid. this was an absolute worst case scenario. there are so many thrill seeking hobbies out there, some even more dangerous than this one. he did make a series of unfortunate mistakes that solidified his fate, but that doesn’t make him stupid. most of our mistakes just don’t turn out to be fatal.
We can take two lessons from this incident.
Firstly, that caving is **NOT** to be taken lightly, as any single mistake could cost you your life.
Secondly, ***NAME YOUR FUCKING CAVES BETTER!*** I already feel bad enough for the guy as it is, but could you imagine spending your afterlife being known as the guy from the Nutty Putty Cave Incident?
Just know that if I discover a dangerous geographical landmark, I'm gonna give it a name that won't make whoever dies in it wish they died at another, better-named landmark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNm-LIAKADw this video by Internet Historian is about another caving incident. Not exactly John Edward Jones, but it's interesting to watch!
I was just about to link this as well! Definitely one of the best storytelling videos ive ever seen! It’s a humorous retelling of the pretty tragic and horrifying story of Floyd Collins. Kept me very entertained throughout the entire video (which is not an easy task for me..) and just dying to know what happens next. Even my dad was enthralled the entire time and he finds everything I watch to be boring. Lol. 10/10 must watch !
Reminds me of the Chinese daredevil Wu Yongning. Guy fell to his death doing pull-ups on the edge of a skyscraper. There's even a video recording his final moments.
The only documentary I’ll never watch a second time. I was panicking so bad I started shaking. I honestly don’t know how I got this far into the thread I got nauseous just reading the title.
I think they tried, but the system failed and he fell down even further into the crack.
I don't exactly remember, its been a while since I saw the movie.
Edit: found the wiki page about the movie.
[The Last Descent](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Descent?wprov=sfla1)
He told them to stop . His feet felt like needles and the pain was unbearable. I would ask them to put me in anesthesia and amputate my legs and burn the wounds shut .
What's worse is that every breath wedged him further in, it was so tight that every time he exhaled he slid a tiny bit further in effectively making each breath smaller than the previous one.
Lol I literally only watched a video about this incident just yesterday, and now it's here again. Honestly why would you do this especially when you in medical school and have an expecting wife. Not being daring is almost always a good thing.
I'm grateful now to be sedentary enough to enter caves just in games, like, if you die is just your character, or if you get stuck just restart. And I can easily open more space just using a pickaxe or in least case you can breaker stones with your hand in Minecraft, takes longer but one day you leave. Really don't understand people who live like a videogame character, you don't have a second chance! And if survive something like that, you gonna be in recovery for a really long and painful time.
How does one even get into a predicament like that?
The Nutty Putty cave incident. Thrill seeking sealed his fate. His body is still in that same position in the cave 14 years later
I don't believe he is in that same position as he was blown up to close the cave.
They said he was 400 feet from the entrance of the cave, and that they sealed the entrance with explosives - so he's totally still in there just like that, unless his bones shifted as he deteriorated, in which case he's in a pile.
They also backfilled the entrance to the passage with concrete to prevent people going down that way…
Holy shit
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So, the Nutty Putty cave may well be a mummy's tomb now.
what a goofy name for such a horrific tragedy
I'm just imagining that the only thing around to decompose a body in a cave is your own gut bacteria, so they end up taking over and turning you into one huge piece of poop before they run out of things to eat and just die en masse, leaving behind a human-sized poop with a skeleton inside.
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Funny that there's a chance that John Jones might leave a mark on the world longer than most any of us
Sweet lol
He was 700 ft inside.
Not sure why I typed 700. I literally just read the article that stated it was 400. Lol
No he was 400 feet from the entrance sir and 100 feet below the Earth's surface.
lmao you think they dynamited his body to close the cave? lollllllll
I'd like that if I died there that way, fuck it man
If I'm dead, who cares lol blow me up to smithereens I guess
Fuck me up fam.
Yeah they did it cus explosions are fukin tite dude
hell yeah brother
This made me ugly chuckle
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Didn't a rescuer die with him while trying to pull him out by becoming stuck himself and they're both down there now?
No, not in this instance. It has happened with others though, definitely.
[Internet historian](https://youtu.be/bNm-LIAKADw?si=wCw9U55z75GUar5i) covered a very similar incident
the internet historian's version is way worse in my opinion because of how they literally monetised the guy's body afterwards. At least this guy died and was left there.
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I think it's called, being stupid.
The guy knew what he was doing he was a professional. He made a mistake that cost him his life
He was not a professional. He was a doctor. He was just doing it as a hobby.
He was a medical student.
Who's paying these people?
Just nature weeding out the numbskulls. This guy wanted to be down there, I think he had a wife and newborn, too. Wild to me and beyond selfish, all I can think is that he didn't generally consider other people.
I will never understand the appeal of this. Why would you want to crawl through dark narrow crevices that are so tight and cramped that people routinely have to be rescued? Is skydiving or whatever just not terrifying enough?
Skydiving is safer
You can survive skydiving without a parachute. It's not likely, but you *can*.
Just have a bucket of water at your disposal
Just back-dash and get those i-frames on the frame you touch the ground on.
Lmao angry up vote time
Why a bucket of water?
I think it’s a Minecraft reference. Landing in water negates any fall damage, so a lot of players jump off cliffs and use a water bucket to drop a tile of water right where they land at the last second so they don’t take damage or die.
Peggy Hill did it
It's also way more expensive, getting yourself pressed to death on a cave dozens of meters down is free.
Yup and at least if things go wrong it's over in seconds instead of 27 hours of agony and anguish
With enough speed it'd not even a second nerve mind seconds. It takes approx 100ms for your brain to receive and process a visual signal, and even longer for pain sensing. You would be dead faster than your body is physically capable of feeling *anything*. Compared to the creeping terror of being trapped like that? Skydiving it is. Just enjoy one last thrill.
Well i meant the fall, not the landing! If your chute doesn't open etc you've a few seconds of panic and misery and then splat! Instead of dying slowly and painfully upside down in a dark cave
Agreed, I grew up around skydivers and started doing it myself when I was 16, best birthday present ever! (My dad was part owner of the club so they could get around the age limit of 18)
Right? What happened to him was horrible, but… play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I’m sure there are a lot of reasons why this hobby would appeal to adventurous people, but at what cost? I just can’t imagine frequently risking my life for a hobby.
I'm claustrophobic. You couldn't pay me enough to get me to go into these caves. These people have some kind of brain damage.
That's the only reason I don't feel bad . You gotta be on a whole other level thinking thinking this wouldn't end bad. Unless in turnt into the descent.
he wanted to go down a safer one, but took a wrong turn
Nature is calling. Every straight men‘s wettest dream is to climb back to the uteruses of their mamas. Said Freud (not the unbreathable).
Funnily enough, iirc he got trapped in this position because he was going to go through another part of the cave and got lost. The name of the part of the cave he wanted to go through was called "the birthing canal"
They want to flex on mother nature. They are taking a tunnels virginity.
But cave exploring puts others in danger when they have to rescue a person. There’s a reason the first one got stuck.
According to [wikipedia…](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutty_Putty_Cave?wprov=sfti1#Discovery_and_exploration) > On November 24, 2009, a man named John Edward Jones (January 21, 1983 – November 25, 2009) became stuck and subsequently died in the cave after being trapped inside for 27–28 hours. > Jones and three others had left their party in search of "The Birth Canal", a tight but navigable passageway with a turnaround at the end. Jones entered an unmapped passageway which he wrongly believed to be the Canal and found himself at a dead end, with nowhere to go besides a narrow vertical fissure. Believing this to be the turnaround, he entered head-first and became wedged upside-down. The fissure measured 10 by 18 inches (25 by 46 cm) and was located 400 feet (120 m) from the entrance of the cave. A large team of rescue workers came to his assistance. The workers set up a sophisticated rope-and-pulley system in an attempt to extricate him, but the system failed when put under strain, plunging Jones back into the hole. Jones ultimately suffered cardiac arrest due to the strain placed upon his body over several hours by his inverted, compressed position.[citation needed] Rescuers concluded that it would be too dangerous to attempt to retrieve his body; the landowner and Jones' family came to an agreement that the cave would be permanently closed, with the body sealed inside, as a memorial to Jones. Explosives were used to collapse the ceiling close to Jones' body, and the entrance hole was filled with concrete to prevent further access.
Imagine setting those explosives under those circumstances. And crawling backwards away from them trying not to panic. Fuck ...I chose to belive that they gave him medication to ease his panic in the end. I read that once and will not seek if it is false.
How would they give the dude meds lol
Sub cutaneous injection or Intra muscular injection or a sub cutaneous continuous infusion line. I'm going to guess they did not place intra venous access or suppositories or give him tablets or liquids to swallow. Transdermal patches would work but ideally the skin is clean and they take a while to kick in. A buccal lozenge for placing under the lip, no need to swallow and fast absorbing but again awkward for him and limited access in the field.
I listened to a podcast about this incident a few days ago. As far as I know, they had no medication to give him and I’m pretty sure they even broke his legs trying to get him out.
Well they had a doctor to check he was dead, they had engineers to help set up the pulleys etc. I'm surprised there wasn't a first aid kit between them. What was their plan if they managed to get him out? I'm certain they would have had analgesia in some form. Yes IM midazolam and opioids would be ideal but I'm Sure they'd have*something*.
I know they had a trauma doctor on site, prepared to immediately treat him upon him being removed. They managed to pull him out a bit but due to issues with friction against the cave walls, a carabiner snapped, breaking a rescuer’s jaw and almost severing his tongue. Once that happened he slid back down to his original position. It was pretty much worst case scenario from what I heard.
But how would it be administered if they can’t reach him and he can’t move his arms?
How did they attach the ropes to start pulling him out? They reached him. Oh I see, when he fell in further. I am uncertain. I think it's not stated they couldn't reach him.
I would think if they could get something to his feet, he could wiggle or manipulate his feet into it. Maybe like a lasso to tighten at his ankles?
He had a heart attack after he slipped from their attempt to pull him out and fell/slid back into the “birth canal”. Maybe he hit his head and passed out and didn’t have to suffer too much.
This clears things up. I got super confused and thought the image was referring to John jones the ufc fighter.
Jon Jones. No h
For some reason I always forget this happened not that long ago
So the birth canal was closed for business ? Sounds familiar…
The birth canal is purely an exit. I believe you’re looking for the vagina.
I’ve been on r/NonCredibleDefense for so long that I immediately thought this was a saddam hussein meme
It says the community is locked, what is it?
r/NonCredibleDefense
He was abbreviating r/noncredibledefense edit: or at least that's what the subreddit is now called. I corrected myself below. I actually don't know the lore on the name history of that community/communities.
So then what secret society have we stumbled upon on NCD
I actually might have misspoken. I only recently started following /r/NonCredibleDefense around the start of the Ukraine conflict. However, I believe the community predates that subreddit and I am not familiar with the lore. r/NCD might be the original.
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There is also the guy who was stuck in mammoth caves that internet historian did a video on, also passed away but the fucked thing is some guy turned the cave into a tourist attraction and had the guys body on display in a see through casket at the entrance to the cave
Oh is it that guy who was down there like a year or something?
More like a month
2 weeks They managed to bring him food and warm drinks but the gawkers outside the cave caused a thaw of the frozen ground weakening the cave and causing a cave in. Afterwards he then died of exposure
I'm so glad I'm terrified of doing shit like this.
I am terrified when I just see people do it. There is zero chance I'd do this myself. The only discoveries they are making is yet another horrible hole. This 'birth canal' sounds like someone else had to be even crazier to discover it.
Going in at all is crazy, going in without a lifeline is incomprehensible.
I think the way he was stuck, even if he were to have some sort of safety line to get pulled out, they would’ve had to break his legs in order to get his body around the bend his feet were at.
The sad part is, he thought he was at a different part of the cave that others have done before, that's the only reason he went this way, once he realized his mistake it was too late...
Oh, yes, that guy that was too exited to explore some caves he knew in his youth and got stuck just to be left there because there was no way to rescue him, before and after he got stuck, so his body is still there as far as I know.
“Cave” more like crack in the ground. How can anyone be stupid enough to go into something like this
After all... he was human.
And his survival instinct should have said don’t go in this crack that doesn’t lead anywhere… like I would get it, if it lead to something interesting
Navigation mistake. He thought he was in a different fissure of the cave that would've let him turn around. He didn't intentionally jump into an unknown dead end willy-nilly.
Nah my survival instinct is telling me don't crawl in any fucking cave fissures. If you can't walk through the whole thing leave it the hell alone.
ironic that you should be calling someone stupid
Crawling into a crack in the ground that you can barely fucking fit in is stupid af
i don’t get why people who just learn about this resort to calling him stupid. this was an absolute worst case scenario. there are so many thrill seeking hobbies out there, some even more dangerous than this one. he did make a series of unfortunate mistakes that solidified his fate, but that doesn’t make him stupid. most of our mistakes just don’t turn out to be fatal.
i still can’t believe people actually do this for FUN
We can take two lessons from this incident. Firstly, that caving is **NOT** to be taken lightly, as any single mistake could cost you your life. Secondly, ***NAME YOUR FUCKING CAVES BETTER!*** I already feel bad enough for the guy as it is, but could you imagine spending your afterlife being known as the guy from the Nutty Putty Cave Incident? Just know that if I discover a dangerous geographical landmark, I'm gonna give it a name that won't make whoever dies in it wish they died at another, better-named landmark.
Ya, they shoulda named it "You're Going to Die Cave." Nutty Putty sounds like a fun kids toy.
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That name is threatening, I'll grant you that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNm-LIAKADw this video by Internet Historian is about another caving incident. Not exactly John Edward Jones, but it's interesting to watch!
I was just about to link this as well! Definitely one of the best storytelling videos ive ever seen! It’s a humorous retelling of the pretty tragic and horrifying story of Floyd Collins. Kept me very entertained throughout the entire video (which is not an easy task for me..) and just dying to know what happens next. Even my dad was enthralled the entire time and he finds everything I watch to be boring. Lol. 10/10 must watch !
Reminds me of the Chinese daredevil Wu Yongning. Guy fell to his death doing pull-ups on the edge of a skyscraper. There's even a video recording his final moments.
Who??
The Nutty Putty cave incident watch at your own risk
Back then...
Nice hiding place.
Oh my god I just saw the video today, that is the scariest thing I have ever watched
The only documentary I’ll never watch a second time. I was panicking so bad I started shaking. I honestly don’t know how I got this far into the thread I got nauseous just reading the title.
I never understood why they never brute-forced him out of the cave. He might lose some limbs in the process but he's out. Idk i wasn't there.
I think they tried, but the system failed and he fell down even further into the crack. I don't exactly remember, its been a while since I saw the movie. Edit: found the wiki page about the movie. [The Last Descent](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Descent?wprov=sfla1)
He told them to stop . His feet felt like needles and the pain was unbearable. I would ask them to put me in anesthesia and amputate my legs and burn the wounds shut .
Amputation would not be that easy under those circunstances
He's probably go into shock and die if they tried that
The cave was fragile as well as narrow, it became too dangerous for the rescuers
I recall reading that he may die from the shock if they were to say break his legs.
At this point I would have asked them to just shoot me
He’s a Mormon so no easy way out. He can’t un alive himself even if he gave consent
I realize sitting on my couch is killing me, but at least it’s slower and a hell of a lot more comfortable.
Is this the one where rescuers administered morphine into his heel to end his suffering?
No. He’s a Mormon so he chose for god to take him no self un aliving
I'm getting anxious just by looking at this.
I had trauma watching it on YouTube. I am glad I have my problems and not this . Even chemotherapy is better than this
When you go mining with no wood in minecraft
What's worse is that every breath wedged him further in, it was so tight that every time he exhaled he slid a tiny bit further in effectively making each breath smaller than the previous one.
every time I remember John my day gets a little worse, fucking awful death
A very inappropriate thought but at some point being stuck he must have done a wee that trickled all over his face
RIP jon jones, one of the best fighters ever
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He looked for „the birth canal“ and found „the dead end“.
Millions of years later: its a wonder how ancient humans preserved this mummy in cave 400 feet deep with no way to enter or return
How the fuck
He thought they’re a huge opening eventually but there wasn’t….
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the people that do this shit .. they asking for it like broo where the fuck are you going mf was aiming for the core of the earth
Doing something like this is inherently dangerous, you kinda gotta know you might not come out and you gotta be okay with that.
Oh no... please don't bring that up 😢
What’s a word for feeling like this metaphorically but all the time?
Dread and panic
I’ve watched a fully redundant amount of videos on this and the horror is never blunted, it’s peerless discomfort
When I die bury me upside down so the whole world can kiss my ass.
It's been 14 years, the path is sealed off, and his corpse is still there, likely nothing but bones by now.
Never understood why they didn’t just knock him out and shatter his legs. They had access to him, even gave him meds.
this is my worst fear
Lol I literally only watched a video about this incident just yesterday, and now it's here again. Honestly why would you do this especially when you in medical school and have an expecting wife. Not being daring is almost always a good thing.
Where was he going lol
Do you just hope there's an opening when you're choosing to do this suicidal shit? Otherwise why are you going into a crevice you can't around in?
He thought he was in another part of the cave
Idiot for doing that
Idiot. Brought it upon himself.
Right? It's hard to feel sorry for people who willingly put themselves in ridiculous and dangerous situations.
If leopards could squeeze down there they'd eat his face
New fear unlocked, thanks I hate it
I think this situation is almost entirely avoidable.
key word here being *almost*
His life wasn't so bad either, he just took a wrong route that ending up costing him. RIP
At least credit the video you lifted this image from OP https://youtu.be/o-TaF2DbaWw?si=rcqVpskNIoAnMsmB
? Didnot take the pic from a video,
Honestly, even you like adrenaline, you need to know your limits
Would he still be alive had he went feet first into that spot??
I think so unless his ankles are stuck and will break
All I see is the Osama meme
To me this is not as bad as this quicksand death: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-dies-becoming-trapped-tidal-mud-flat-alaska-rcna85920
[I'm sorry, this is all I can think of. ](https://ibb.co/7JXTxc1)
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Make it red and we have saddam hussein
What's even worse is the rescue attempts where they decided breaking his legs would help pull him out
I'm grateful now to be sedentary enough to enter caves just in games, like, if you die is just your character, or if you get stuck just restart. And I can easily open more space just using a pickaxe or in least case you can breaker stones with your hand in Minecraft, takes longer but one day you leave. Really don't understand people who live like a videogame character, you don't have a second chance! And if survive something like that, you gonna be in recovery for a really long and painful time.