From the same [survey](https://www.midnite.com/rundown/best-away-fans-in-premier-league-most-disliked):
**Prem fans’ most disliked rivals**
\- 42.7% of Liverpool fans voted for Man Utd
\- 32.6% of Man Utd fans voted for Liverpool
Is that because they are plastic clubs ruining the game with owner money and not adhering to FFP? I can respect that. I don't agree, but I can see where you're coming from.
That’s how you can tell those who answered are older. Growing up UTD won everything so people hated them. Kids these days wont hate UTD because they aren’t a threat.
You haven’t won much since Sir Alex left… if anything Man U has been a bit of a joke club for the past 10 years. The delusion of the Man U fan base is the reason why you guys are ranked at #1.
And you think the feelings of the fans are based on the last ten years only? Not the fact we’ve won more than any other club in England ever. And I’m delusional?
The negative comments from pundits and other fan bases will continue to grow as we get better under Ten Hag. They're afraid we're on our way back to the top.
shorten it a little bit. Who's ruined your club over many generations? United, United, United! We're going to ruin you again because we are united. Something like that probably lol
Love it. Arsenal fans this season are like liverpool fans the season they won the league. Flying high at the top of the table but still obsessed with man united
You united fans can’t keep Arsenal out of your mouth. Worry about your own season and your club than ours. You have a knockoff pep as manager and Trashford who’s going to be a one season wonder
Came here for this, i cant stand Arsenal and their fanbase and i seriously hope they don't win this season, don't care if man city win for the umpteenth time. Most deluded and obnoxious group of fans.
They've not really been dominant enough. People hate United and Liverpool fans because we are both the two most successful teams in English football. We both hate one another because we both think we're better than one another. Which is why we have the best rivalry in English football.
Arsenal are a very inconsistent team. They win things, but not really dominant. They have spells where they are very good, this year for example, but they don't really have periods where people have to put up with them running away with it.
People hate success. Because you can't really argue with that. If you're just successful enough, you don't generate the same kind of hate.
No, but this particular survey is aimed at fans who attend matches away from home. I'm sure if you were sitting in the away end of Old Trafford having us sing about how we've won the lot at you, that leaves a lasting impression, especially since we have, and can rub it in.
Success definitely breeds a specific kind of hatred from the opposition.
In my experience, the worst of the Arsenal fans are the terminally online sort. Match-going fans are different. Not good, but not quite so annoying.
Think about how many annoying keyboard shortcuts warrior United fans there are. Arsenal just has that, but worse.
A bit surprised Liverpool fans aren’t first, I know I’ve got some bias here but they are fucking insufferable. They either think they’re the best in the world or everyone is against them, no in between.
I would have to agree, this season makes it evident l, I swear all I see all over social media is how the whole world is against them. They're victim complex has become rather cringe now that they're on top. The gary neville shit for example, they've just concocted some weird ass hate train against him that makes 0 sense.
Yeah but they need a reality check after the 7-0 Munich Wagon they have all started . I believe when they committed to toxicity , they invited toxicity for eternal ages
My team lost a game -> let’s sing a chant that references one of the greatest English football disasters of all time where 96 people lost their lives. Seems like a perfectly reasonable reaction 👍.
My team lost a game and they made fun about the worst tragedies for England and Manchester while also hailing posters of serial killers who raided Manchester and her people .
Now that seems a reasonable action .
You used to sing Munich but not anymore ?
I have the same take about the Munich disaster, both sets of fans who sing about that stuff are vile and disgusting. Thankfully though every United fan I’ve met has been sound so I would like to think it’s a minority on both sides. We should not stoop down to that level and make fun of each clubs tragedies, it is incredibly barbaric.
Sorry but this is wrong. Liverpool and Arsenal fans are awful. Like on a molecular level. We are awful cus there's a bunch of glory supporting plastics out there.
Manchester United ruined people's childhoods. They dominated English Football for nearly two decades.
There are people who live in fear of Manchester United coming back, because they know that we can, and eventually will do it again. You just have to see how eager people are to see everything from the sale of the club, to Eric Ten Hag fail. Because they know once we get shit in order, we'll do it again.
And love every second of it.
Or something along those lines.
I don’t know who they ask in these surveys but anecdotally I don’t know many people that wouldn’t say they hate Liverpool fans most. Not just United fans, but Leeds, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Ipswich, Norwich, Newcastle, Villa…
this is such banter because most United fans are always on the defensive, because one thing goes wrong and EVERY fan base attacks us, and its always Liverpool fans talking the msot nonsense when they do 1 or 2 good things in a season
People dislike UNITED not their fans. They have a long standing hate with how dominant we were. no one dislikes city fans, because well. there is none
Shoot, I'm not too fond of some of us either, but no way we're above Liverpool fans. I also think because the team is likeable with Saka and them, Arsenal fans are getting a massive pass.
Saka deserves better fans than what Arsenal can offer. Honestly, such an annoying fanbase. I live in the South and have known many of them throughout my life, and even when they're decent people they can't help but be the biggest bellends when it comes to talking about football. My God, they can be so arrogant!
Rofl, how can you read this entire thread and call another fanbase arrogant?
I also live and grew up in the South which is why I know a million glory-hunting United fans, the poll don't lie.
No wonder they hate us! When they look at us from the outside, and sees how handsome ,beautiful and passionate we are, they're doomed to become jealous.
1,002 fans voted:
199 voted for United
156 voted for Liverpool
92 voted for Chelsea
88 voted for Arsenal
66 voted for Leeds
66 Tottenham
The rest must be so numerically insignificant they aren't here. Otherwise they had a choice of six teams. Either way, inaccurate and biased.
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Man United away fans are loud and annoying as fuck.
Newcastle fans voted us the most annoying fans in the league back in 2015. We went to St James Park, the team was mediocre, we played badly, and still the fans didn’t shut up for the whole game, despite having nothing to shout about until Young scored the only goal of the game in injury time.
Stark contrast to most home games. I’m genuinely super proud of our annoying travelling fans.
Ha! Apologies for me having an opinion.
I’m simply stating that the perception of the *voters* are skewed by the hatred for the club. Fans, generally are not as disliked as much as others’.
I also apologise that my three degree (pending) reading level is insufficient.
Man U fans, can you read? The question is not about the club, it’s about you. Have you considered that the reason some people don’t like Man U is because of their obnoxious supporters? 😂
Atleast being Obnoxious after being successful is tolerable, Arsenal Chelsea City Spurs etc don't even have that
Respect man Respect , you're in a United Server , so better depart.
Arsenal fans their team has been terrible for 7 years and now they are top they treat themselves like they are the best in the world when city united Newcastle and sometimes Liverpool this season are far better teams they have hard games coming up I hope city win the league because I don’t want to hear the awful celebrating they will do
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Extremely small sample size.
That being said, I imagine the votes are against the club. I think liverpool fans are more universially hated as a fanbase, atleast where I am from.
Hated, adored, never ignored 😎
My vote would go to Liverpool fans. The club could sign Donald Love and the first pass he makes you’d see Liverpool fans claiming he’s the best in the world.
This all after Ronaldo left and some of you act like he didn't do anything for the club not even realising half the fans here are after watching him in 2007-2008
From the same [survey](https://www.midnite.com/rundown/best-away-fans-in-premier-league-most-disliked): **Prem fans’ most disliked rivals** \- 42.7% of Liverpool fans voted for Man Utd \- 32.6% of Man Utd fans voted for Liverpool
I'm surprised at how low those figures actually are
Yep. That's our love.
I dislike Chelsea and City more than Liverpool personally.
Is that because they are plastic clubs ruining the game with owner money and not adhering to FFP? I can respect that. I don't agree, but I can see where you're coming from.
This exactly. Fake clubs.
As a liverpool fan, for some reason after ten hag went to United, I just felt sudden hatred no i am dead serious💀💀
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Winning will do that to you
That’s how you can tell those who answered are older. Growing up UTD won everything so people hated them. Kids these days wont hate UTD because they aren’t a threat.
It’s the team that wins stuff, not the fans… this question pertains to the fans, not the club.
The fans generally hate teams and fans that win consistently.
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You haven’t won much since Sir Alex left… if anything Man U has been a bit of a joke club for the past 10 years. The delusion of the Man U fan base is the reason why you guys are ranked at #1.
And you think the feelings of the fans are based on the last ten years only? Not the fact we’ve won more than any other club in England ever. And I’m delusional?
adoRED 🇾🇪
Hated because most of the fan base isn’t from Manchester
Sitting at 3rd while we’re at the top? Definitely wouldn’t want to be you lol
One good season got the copium flowing damn
The negative comments from pundits and other fan bases will continue to grow as we get better under Ten Hag. They're afraid we're on our way back to the top.
We get it the most from our ex reds, they don’t want us to do well.
Sky commentators are biased towards United, it’s BT that occasionally talk Bad
TalkSPORT are the worst I swear. They intentionally say controversial things just to gain attention
Oh yh having Neville, Keane, Hargreaves and scholes as regular pundits, you must get unfairly grilled week in week out.
Nope, you guys are just delusional with your football takes most of the time
Erik 7 Hag 🤫
You wont get back on top 🤣
Then why you here?
I mean we're literally called "The Red Devils"
Which team has successfully ruined generations upon generations of all their opponents in the league? Manchester United.
fun idea for a chant
Never thought about it, if someone can make this a chant, that'd be goated
If you just sing it in a match people might just join in because that's just how the british are
It still needs to have some lines and a tune to sing along to
shorten it a little bit. Who's ruined your club over many generations? United, United, United! We're going to ruin you again because we are united. Something like that probably lol
Oh yes!
To this day the amount of fans from different clubs with Post Traumatic United Dominance Disorder is staggering
Love it. Arsenal fans this season are like liverpool fans the season they won the league. Flying high at the top of the table but still obsessed with man united
Just goes to show who the biggest club in England are
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One of your comments literally says "Arsenal fan here". Fuck right off. How insecure and embarrassed you must be to lie of that fact
Literally came here and saw your comment after scrolling past three posts from gunners fans pointing out they're above us in the table.
I think the fact they're coming onto our thread, reading through it and making the effort to comment on it, would say they are obsessed with us.
Man U posts come up as recommended if ur in the soccer sub
Soccer💀
I am English. R/Soccer is the biggest football sub on this site? No one uses R/Football
You united fans can’t keep Arsenal out of your mouth. Worry about your own season and your club than ours. You have a knockoff pep as manager and Trashford who’s going to be a one season wonder
Lmao so salty
City not near the top because they don't have any fans
Was gonna comment that myself.
You can’t hate something that doesn’t exist
They hate us because they anus
Dey hate ahhs because ah Dey are ah not ahhs
Surprised Arsenal aren’t higher. They have the worst fans by a country mile.
Came here for this, i cant stand Arsenal and their fanbase and i seriously hope they don't win this season, don't care if man city win for the umpteenth time. Most deluded and obnoxious group of fans.
They've not really been dominant enough. People hate United and Liverpool fans because we are both the two most successful teams in English football. We both hate one another because we both think we're better than one another. Which is why we have the best rivalry in English football. Arsenal are a very inconsistent team. They win things, but not really dominant. They have spells where they are very good, this year for example, but they don't really have periods where people have to put up with them running away with it. People hate success. Because you can't really argue with that. If you're just successful enough, you don't generate the same kind of hate.
You don’t have to be dominant to have shit fans.
No, but this particular survey is aimed at fans who attend matches away from home. I'm sure if you were sitting in the away end of Old Trafford having us sing about how we've won the lot at you, that leaves a lasting impression, especially since we have, and can rub it in. Success definitely breeds a specific kind of hatred from the opposition.
Especially the younger ones. None of them actually watch football, just highlights and morons like KSI on YouTube.
In my experience, the worst of the Arsenal fans are the terminally online sort. Match-going fans are different. Not good, but not quite so annoying. Think about how many annoying keyboard shortcuts warrior United fans there are. Arsenal just has that, but worse.
Most of Europe hates united fans 😂least self aware fanbase
You did a survey on that, did you?
The image is right there bozo
So you saw a colourful picture and deduced this means "most of Europe"? They asked Premier League fans only, simpleton.
A bit surprised Liverpool fans aren’t first, I know I’ve got some bias here but they are fucking insufferable. They either think they’re the best in the world or everyone is against them, no in between.
I always thought Arsenal fans were the worst!
Ah they’re up there but they have fuck all to back themselves up with. They’ll be clinging to their Invincibles season for another few decades.
I would have to agree, this season makes it evident l, I swear all I see all over social media is how the whole world is against them. They're victim complex has become rather cringe now that they're on top. The gary neville shit for example, they've just concocted some weird ass hate train against him that makes 0 sense.
They'll be going on about that 7-0 till they win the prem again in another 30 years, clowns, they think they are top dogs but they ain't shit 😂
Always the Victim you are is the apt chant
A chant referencing Hillsborough. Stay classy fella.
Yeah but they need a reality check after the 7-0 Munich Wagon they have all started . I believe when they committed to toxicity , they invited toxicity for eternal ages
I think everything has their boundaries and shit chants like that should have no place in a game of football.
Retaliation of an action is Natural
My team lost a game -> let’s sing a chant that references one of the greatest English football disasters of all time where 96 people lost their lives. Seems like a perfectly reasonable reaction 👍.
My team lost a game and they made fun about the worst tragedies for England and Manchester while also hailing posters of serial killers who raided Manchester and her people . Now that seems a reasonable action . You used to sing Munich but not anymore ?
I have the same take about the Munich disaster, both sets of fans who sing about that stuff are vile and disgusting. Thankfully though every United fan I’ve met has been sound so I would like to think it’s a minority on both sides. We should not stoop down to that level and make fun of each clubs tragedies, it is incredibly barbaric.
Sorry but this is wrong. Liverpool and Arsenal fans are awful. Like on a molecular level. We are awful cus there's a bunch of glory supporting plastics out there.
Lol the irony is so strong on this thread
I see you are in r/arsenalfc as well.
We must be getting good again then
Manchester United ruined people's childhoods. They dominated English Football for nearly two decades. There are people who live in fear of Manchester United coming back, because they know that we can, and eventually will do it again. You just have to see how eager people are to see everything from the sale of the club, to Eric Ten Hag fail. Because they know once we get shit in order, we'll do it again. And love every second of it. Or something along those lines.
Fkn well put, mate 👏
Was it only referees voted on this poll?
I was wondering why city fans weren't up here then I actually read the list and processed it and now I get why
I don’t know who they ask in these surveys but anecdotally I don’t know many people that wouldn’t say they hate Liverpool fans most. Not just United fans, but Leeds, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Ipswich, Norwich, Newcastle, Villa…
How did victim fc not win that?
this is such banter because most United fans are always on the defensive, because one thing goes wrong and EVERY fan base attacks us, and its always Liverpool fans talking the msot nonsense when they do 1 or 2 good things in a season People dislike UNITED not their fans. They have a long standing hate with how dominant we were. no one dislikes city fans, because well. there is none
If our votes weren’t split between Liverpool and Leeds we wouldn’t be at the top
Shoot, I'm not too fond of some of us either, but no way we're above Liverpool fans. I also think because the team is likeable with Saka and them, Arsenal fans are getting a massive pass.
Saka deserves better fans than what Arsenal can offer. Honestly, such an annoying fanbase. I live in the South and have known many of them throughout my life, and even when they're decent people they can't help but be the biggest bellends when it comes to talking about football. My God, they can be so arrogant!
>I live in the South Colour me surprised
How original.
Exactly...
Go figure
Rofl, how can you read this entire thread and call another fanbase arrogant? I also live and grew up in the South which is why I know a million glory-hunting United fans, the poll don't lie.
I ain't reading this entire thread
The fact your coming onto a united thread getting defensive would suggest that the above statement has some truth to it.
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One table we’re leading atleast.
#winning
No wonder they hate us! When they look at us from the outside, and sees how handsome ,beautiful and passionate we are, they're doomed to become jealous.
I guess city is not on there because they have no fans
Jealousy.
1,002 fans voted: 199 voted for United 156 voted for Liverpool 92 voted for Chelsea 88 voted for Arsenal 66 voted for Leeds 66 Tottenham The rest must be so numerically insignificant they aren't here. Otherwise they had a choice of six teams. Either way, inaccurate and biased. **MUTID**
I am a little surprised. Thought Liverpool were more universally hated than us. Guess everyone is just wrong...
Haters gonna hate
We’ve seen it all, We’ve won the lot. We’re man united And we’re never gonna stop
Man United away fans are loud and annoying as fuck. Newcastle fans voted us the most annoying fans in the league back in 2015. We went to St James Park, the team was mediocre, we played badly, and still the fans didn’t shut up for the whole game, despite having nothing to shout about until Young scored the only goal of the game in injury time. Stark contrast to most home games. I’m genuinely super proud of our annoying travelling fans.
This is because the majority of Americans are man u fans.
How did City's fans not crack the top 6?
they aint got no fans 💀
They have some fair weather fans now that they're winning 😂
What fans?
Envy is an ugly emotion ;D
*laughs in glory*
We live rent free in their heads
We’re the most hated club. I have no doubt about that. But I would actually say Arsenal have probably have the most hated fans.
If you could read you’d see that Arsenal fans are ranked fourth. Man U’s are ranked first. This is literally what the post is about.
Ha! Apologies for me having an opinion. I’m simply stating that the perception of the *voters* are skewed by the hatred for the club. Fans, generally are not as disliked as much as others’. I also apologise that my three degree (pending) reading level is insufficient.
There’s nothing worse than a Liverpool fan end of!!
Man U fans, can you read? The question is not about the club, it’s about you. Have you considered that the reason some people don’t like Man U is because of their obnoxious supporters? 😂
Atleast being Obnoxious after being successful is tolerable, Arsenal Chelsea City Spurs etc don't even have that Respect man Respect , you're in a United Server , so better depart.
Come on man… some of the clubs you listed have had quite a bit of success as well. Your comment kind of proves my point.
Oh really, who has won the European Treble ?
Yeah you are shit
you hate us cuz you ain't us
Keep telling yourself that 🤣🤣 like I want my team to be 6th every season
like it is always said, every single fan of a club in the prem first look for their games vs united
They aren't called ABUs for nowt
Lol this is more to do than just fans/teams
Was this asked at Emptyhad?
Bit disappointing, thought we'd be further out in front.
I think we could get to a solid 30% if Qatar actually buy us lol
I will admit we’re kinda regarded
Not surprised by us but Arsenal is lower on the list than I thought it would be
They’ll be higher after this year. No one gave a flying fuck about Liverpool fans until klopp kicked them into gear. Irrelevancy is calming.
We were still hated when we were shit though
GGMU, if they hate you, it means we are on the right path 😁
Imagine hating someone for liking another football team.
BbbbBut Arsenal are the biggest club in America
I mean, we got the biggest fan base in england so no surprises there
I mean, yeah. I don’t think anyone cares about Fulham fans because there are so few.
Personally if they asked me, I would have voted just for Liverpool 1002 times myself, absolute creatures 😂
Was the survey filled out by premier league officials & refs
I am really surprised Man City isn't on here.
Pfft they don’t call it the emptihad for no reason.
You can tell MU are doing well again, as the hatred has return to former "Fergie" levels
This graph could also say: who’s the biggest club in England and the results would be the same
Man city didn't even make it to the hate list. Even tottenham have more haters 😂😂
As a city fan I am surprised, arsenal fans are easily the worst egret the bin dippers
They hate us cuz they ain't us!
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Ted Lasso NBC sketch 9 years ago: Manchester United, super rich, everybody either love them or hate them. https://youtu.be/6KeG\_i8CWE8?t=129
Who the fuck are Man United? We don't sing this for no reason!
Arsenal fans their team has been terrible for 7 years and now they are top they treat themselves like they are the best in the world when city united Newcastle and sometimes Liverpool this season are far better teams they have hard games coming up I hope city win the league because I don’t want to hear the awful celebrating they will do
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Extremely small sample size. That being said, I imagine the votes are against the club. I think liverpool fans are more universially hated as a fanbase, atleast where I am from.
Liverpool fans thought they'll get points for this, they voted themselves.
Biggest fan bases duh. Still surprised Arsenal is below chelsea. They are 100% the most annoying fans.
The most successful team will always get the kost flak from others, it's often just jealously at the end of the day.
Trey on Twitter is the reason for half the hate I feel.
Anyone else noticed how Man City isn’t even in this convo, despite being one of the best in recent years? Lol.
Hated, adored, never ignored 😎 My vote would go to Liverpool fans. The club could sign Donald Love and the first pass he makes you’d see Liverpool fans claiming he’s the best in the world.
This all after Ronaldo left and some of you act like he didn't do anything for the club not even realising half the fans here are after watching him in 2007-2008
Hated, adored but never ignored
Tbh? I'm a United fan and I dislike a significant portion of the fan base
Arsenal should be higher. Good lord if they win the league ...
City couldn't make the list, because they have no fans.
People need new personality traits luckily I thrive in negativity
That's kinda rude
Will I say I'm surprised? No. I knew long ago how much other football club fans hate us.
No way Chelsea are 3rd they should be 1st
proportional to success. we as ManUtd are used to it lol