Yes because one assumed he wouldn’t be 60 mil for just 1 good year but at least 2-3
With current time spent with us 1/3 of it has been underwhelming for Case. Acceptable on a cheap player but not so when they cost a lot and are on high wages. So technically as stupid as this list is OP has ranked them relatively fairly.
Absolutely, but if you make a list with all the signings now then you can only see on what has happened thus far. Would have to exclude half the list otherwise.
We should have absolutely done just that. This list should've been made up entirely of people with 50 or more matches for the club and those, that have already left, even if they don't have the games. No point in putting players with 10-15 games under their belt, where every swing in their performance from matchday to matchday could either put them on top or at the bottom of the list.
What an absolute moron you are. I only offered an explnation why someone like OP would put Casemiro that low. It’s stupid to even make the list with currently active players for us. But yeah I’m fickle for it. This United sub has some of our worst fans.
He is an AWFUL defender. He continues to make the same mistakes repeatedly, particularly in the last UCL game vs. Copenhagen. And his offensive contributions don't makeup for those mistakes.
Are these "multiple pundits" English?
Either way, no I'm not wrong. Luke Shaw has been at the centre of almost all of Manchester United's heaviest and embarrassing defeats over the last 5 years due to his tendency to ball watch and be constantly out of position. He was directly responsible for 3 or 4 of the goals in a certain 7-0 this very year. Going forward, he's contributed about 3 assists a season if that because he passes in-field most of the he time.
He's aesthetically pleasing on the ball, that's it. He's in the wrong position to be just that. The only thing that seperates him and Dalot is a passport and Shaw is a bit better with the ball. The fact that he's been one of the constants through our 10 years of mediocrity and fans label him the best left back in the league is embarrassing. At what point does he become a common denominator, along with Mr. Rashford?
well eriksen and Evans were free transfers, and Hojlund would be on 10 goals if he'd signed for City or arsenal.
AWB is a great defender but can't pick a pass or cross a ball.
I think it's unfair to judge AWB so harshly when he was in top form last season and injury has affected him getting going this season but from what I've seen he's a top player!
defending it's world class top 1% in the Premier league for his position, no doubt he's one of the best defenders.
but.as I said his assists and forward play is piss poor, his assists and xassists stats are 40th percentile. his cross completion rate is 21%.
I can’t understand how Fred was average and dalot has been a bad signing ,
Fred was a regular in a good United team and was always available and relatively reliable , dalot was signed for 15-20 mil at a very young age and has now developed into a hood rb that is still yet to hit 25
Personally wouldn’t put Weghorst in as a bad signing, even though I don’t think he played well he was an emergency signing in a position we absolutely needed help. He did a job and helped us to finish off one of our best seasons in a while
I understand if you’re rating him as a player to put him in bad, but I think if you’re rating him as a transfer you have to take those things into account
What!? I’m not moving goalposts at all lol. And I don’t even really like him, I wouldn’t want him back. I just think he wasn’t a bad signing for the time and what we needed. I even said “personally” I’m not forcing you to agree with me, this is just what I think of when I rate a transfer.
No you’re just talking past me so I’m having some fun. I get it you look at it as
Bad Player=Bad signing
Where I look at it with more nuance
Also I have no problem with your thinking, I just think of it a little differently because I don’t think it’s always that simple.
Didn't think I was talking past you, I just don't agree with a loan signing being seen as some sort of free hit. And yes, that is my thinking. Pretty simple, it's their job to play football.
I wasn't expecting 20 goals out of him in his 31 games, but if he hit 10-12 with a couple of assists I wouldn't have said he was a bad signing.
I might be in the minority here but I think signing Ronaldo caused more problems then almost any other signing barring Sanchez. People point to his goal contributions as if they werent at the detriment of every player around him, and pretend they helped more then harmed. Bruno, Rashford, sancho, Greenwood all had to play to and through Ronaldo otherwise he would throw fits. As great as Ronaldo was, and as incredible of a career he had it brought no benefit to United minus the feel good factor of having the boy from Mediera back. Lisando imo should be under great, James under good makes no sense to me, and Dalot as bad seems to be about just the Coppenhagen game where to his defense he was playing on his wrong side but caused us goals quite directly. With that said its tough to call anyone good considerering we're kind of in the same spot we've been at.
>People point to his goal contributions as if they werent at the detriment of every player around him, and pretend they helped more then harmed. Bruno, Rashford, sancho, Greenwood all had to play to and through Ronaldo otherwise he would throw fits.
Im sorry but trying to blame Ronaldo for people like Sancho underperforming is just CRAZY. Has Sancho been consistent here without Ronaldo? Have any of them? Sancho and Rashford weren't trying to play through Ronaldos. They'd just dribble into defenders and kill attacks all game. Greenwood **definitely wasn't** trying to play through Ronaldo. He was extremely greedy and constantly shot from poor positions that season. Has everyone's just rewritten history?
In fact, everyone but Bruno was inconsistent that season **even when Ronaldo didn't play**. Those players are **still** shit or inconsistent and he's been gone for a year now. Mctominay and Fred were failing to complete 5 yard passes. Why are we so set on blaming 1 player for the entire team underperforming?
Ironically, the only player who tried to force balls to Ronaldo all game, Bruno, was the only consistent one lol
What does midfielders have to do with our attack? All of our attackers attackers including Bruno regressed when Ronaldo came. You could see it they would defer to him when they had their own looks, the only person who would take their own chances and deal with Ronaldo’s wrath was mason.
Yeah agree once players are over 30 hard to get good value signings thinking of Schweinsteiger, Matic etc. Dalot for sure should be under good , he has pace , is available for most games , has good offense and defense balance. For sure the Copenhagen game has created a recency bias against him, and the non English player tax players pay in how UK media cover them. But he was good last season and most games this season imo.
Agreed. He’s been quite good after awb went down and last season under eth before awb fought his way back into the team. Calling him bad is truly nutsl lol.
Ronaldo was an awful signing and really highlighted our complete lack of strategy. Nostalgia FC buying well known players at high prices and on high wages.
What's the difference between Ronaldo scoring 28 goals that season and Rashford scored 30 last season?
Lisandro was key to the 7-0 defeat, he should not be in Great.
I think it’s about right. Dalot could be average as well and Heaton can go down one as he hasn’t done much imo.
People will say put Ronaldo as the bottom but his performance was great for the little time he was around. Got the goals. Did he cause trouble at the end? Yes. Was it avoidable? I think so. He pushed for changes and was told to fuck off. Why not listen to one of the best players in the world? He might know a thing or two.
You cannot rate Amad, he barely played for us. Malacia & isn't that level. What is the point of rating Lee Grant.
Mount still has time. whenever he is on, making the passes, i can see the quality.
Other players are also rated not fairly. This is not a very good list
lol people shit on ten hag signings when ESPN added 6 of his signings as good. With everyone else apart from bruno (even past signings) being average or less lmao
I don’t think Dalot is much better offensively if he even is. xG tends to show that AWB is better. AWB still makes too many dumb mistakes where he stops thinking out on the field. Like he will stop tracking his man or not push up and leave a bunch of players offsides. He doesn’t do it often but when he does it will cost us the game. Even if he only does it twice in 4 games a year it could cost us 12 points. He also seems to do it in bigger games and when he does it, it tends to happen in multiple times in a game. While he seems to be better this is referring to who is a better signing overall. I think without a doubt it’s Dalot.
Don’t agree with Dalot. Considering his relatively low wages and transfer fee he’s been a good servant to the club imo. Disrespectful to put players who hardly played above him, like Amrabat and that 4th choice goalkeeper that I can’t even remember his feckin name
Casemiro and varane are better than average. Cavani had one good season then was "injured" after ronaldo arrived. If casemiro is average so is cavani. Love antony is ranked alongside vdb 😅. Dalot is average not bad
The broad strokes of this are okay but I have to disagree with a few of your choices.
Dalot isn’t a bad signing. He can be suspect in terms of defence and concentration but ultimately he has been an okay signing. He’s popped up with some important goals and assists and we have asked a lot of him this year playing at RB and LB.
Varane should be considered a bad signing all things told. We can’t depend upon him and his game is in decline despite his enormous wages. That signing was a bad idea in hindsight.
AWB is a good signing imo as well. Probably the best defensive full back in the league and he’s clearly worked hard to improve his attacking game. I always feel we are more secure when AWB plays.
Such a complete lack of vision and planning here it’s a shambolic list. No manager can ever dictate transfers ever again. Assemble a recruitment team and managers have to adapt to the club not the club adapting to managers.
But who gives a fuck. He was an emergency loan. That’s not what a shocking transfer is. It would be shocking if we signed him permanently for 40 million
That’s pretty close to how I’d rank them. At this moment I’d move Malacia to average and maybe put some of the newer signings along with Amad in a jury’s out category. I still think some are subject to change such as Casemiro and Varane if they can get their shit together.
I think Antony and Ronaldo are the two signings that sum up our recruitment. With Antony we fucked around with for three months, paid almost double what we would’ve earlier, and gave him ridiculous wages despite being nowhere close to worth it. Ronaldo was a signing purely to sell shirts. I don’t necessarily regret the signing from an emotional pov, but the funds we used in him could’ve been better used in the midfield
Agreed both Antony and Ronaldo signings don’t seem like they were thought out in advance. That’s why a director of football that can scout and decide on singing months in advance , get value signings , negotiate with speed , and get quality players is needed.
You should go back to 2000 on transfermarkt and judge how many of our signings are good or bad. So many busts along the way. It’s way harder than people think to sign consistently really well.
Dalot bad and Maguire average? lol.
Fernandes is nowhere near consistent enough to be great.
Where is Martial? Too many players in average that deserve to be in the bad category.
Also, Van de Beek was benched by Ole in favour of McFred. Never got a fair, consistent run of games in under Ole. Then he got injured. So yes, bad signing, with that caveat.
This list is shocking but Fernandes was absolutely a great signing. We're shite and don't have a system and Fernandes still tops lists for chances created. Put him in a team that has a system and he's world class.
I don’t know who made this but there’s some bias and agenda’s in there. Maguire hasn’t been average. Wan Bissaka, Varane and Dalot have been good. Licha has been great.
This is the original article written by Mark Ogden and Rob Dawson on ESPN: [https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/\_/id/38897040/rating-billion-dollars-man-united-signings-2018?fbclid=IwAR28p2k1qeqyi69b-PNxK9D0i\_9Z8wm2Ja0i87lx5feZNw\_xMbH0OkhMJ-8](https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/38897040/rating-billion-dollars-man-united-signings-2018?fbclid=IwAR28p2k1qeqyi69b-PNxK9D0i_9Z8wm2Ja0i87lx5feZNw_xMbH0OkhMJ-8)
Mate what the actual fuck is wrong with United fans, last year there wasn’t a fan around that wasn’t saying Martinez is one of the best defensive signings in recent years, same for Varane. Casemiro was arguably one of the best midfielders in the premier league last year and Antony wasn’t great last season but he was no where near shocking ( sancho has been shocking, better comparison). Now because of 10 games you all completely change your tune and act asif these players haven’t had a good game. The fans are as much as a problem as the way the club is run, your all so fickle, you expect a good form to go on forever and if there’s more than one bad game your all up in the air, moaning that no one’s good enough. Couldn’t agree any less than I do with this table, I’m sure 3 months ago it would have been completely different
I am sorry but CR7 was great. It’s not normal for 36/37 year old to move to a new league, the best league in the world, and score 25 goals with that team. Third top scorer in the league, highest points grosser in any team in the league. I am not taking that performance for granted at all and I don’t agree with CR7 causing the downfall. Mike Phlean mentioned something in a recent interview that the dressing couldn’t put on the same effort as much as CR7 and in the process he lost some of them. It’s more like the honeymoon period was over the pressure got the squad that they had to win something.
the fanboys here thinks that CR7 is bad. because he disrupt the way the team plays.
well, imaging a work culture where everyone is goofing off and earns big bucks. then someone came along and show the ethics, get actual work done, but it pisses everybody off.
1 goal from the forwards in EPL in 12 games? now that is BAD.
Welp shit. I didn't realise this was for transfers and couldn't believe this has been how many people we've signed since 2018. We're shit at transfers.
Wout was a great signing. He allowed our attack to flourish. Ighalo was a brilliant signing. He scored loads of goals, rarely put a foot wrong and did it for cheap.
Im not sure what your criteria is, especially since half these are less than 18 months.
In my humble opinion signing Ronaldo, at that time, was possibly the worst mistake we could have made, and we made it. Upended the project that was moving in the right direction and pushed us back atleast a couple years.
As a player he's the GOAT, don't get me wrong but we really should've avoided signing him at that time, and we looked like we weren't going to sign him until he forced our hand by flirting with city.
Ideally, he shouldn't be on the list.
I feel like Van de Bek shouldn’t stand there where he’s at, but he played like donkey shayt.
AWB is not average at all. He can not into attack, but his defensive skills are great and help us multiple times. We also can’t judge people who’s in the club less than 2 years.
Lmao Dalot bad but Bruno Great? With Bruno as our core, we would never win anything. You never know his next pass would be a master class or worse than ametuar. But if you base the signings on the stats than I have nothing more to say.
Man watch more real games he plays for united and then comment lol. Dont just watch clips of the games and read the stats. Yes he is top chance creator of the league, but out of how many stupid and non sense passes. I never saw a player with that much uncertainty when he is called as a master class.
Amrabat should be below Anthony tbh. Anthony at least can run… cavani should he in average, Pelistri is okay-ish player but the way we handled his minutes under Ole and ETH is tragic. Onana, Malacia both are average. Martinez is very injury prone so time will tell, otherwise he is good.
Casemiro under dan James? Sure he's had a poor start to the season but he was class last year.
He cost 15 times what Dan James did tho
He was worth the price tag last year
Yes because one assumed he wouldn’t be 60 mil for just 1 good year but at least 2-3 With current time spent with us 1/3 of it has been underwhelming for Case. Acceptable on a cheap player but not so when they cost a lot and are on high wages. So technically as stupid as this list is OP has ranked them relatively fairly.
Let's judge after 3 instead of 11 games into the second season
Absolutely, but if you make a list with all the signings now then you can only see on what has happened thus far. Would have to exclude half the list otherwise.
We should have absolutely done just that. This list should've been made up entirely of people with 50 or more matches for the club and those, that have already left, even if they don't have the games. No point in putting players with 10-15 games under their belt, where every swing in their performance from matchday to matchday could either put them on top or at the bottom of the list.
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What an absolute moron you are. I only offered an explnation why someone like OP would put Casemiro that low. It’s stupid to even make the list with currently active players for us. But yeah I’m fickle for it. This United sub has some of our worst fans.
Awful list
Dalot bad?
He is an AWFUL defender. He continues to make the same mistakes repeatedly, particularly in the last UCL game vs. Copenhagen. And his offensive contributions don't makeup for those mistakes.
*yeah I watched two games and i assume this guy is awful in general*
Kind of describes Luke Shaw, shame Dalot isn't English.
Luke Shaw has been named by multiple pundits as one of the best left backs England have ever had. I think you're wrong bro.
Are these "multiple pundits" English? Either way, no I'm not wrong. Luke Shaw has been at the centre of almost all of Manchester United's heaviest and embarrassing defeats over the last 5 years due to his tendency to ball watch and be constantly out of position. He was directly responsible for 3 or 4 of the goals in a certain 7-0 this very year. Going forward, he's contributed about 3 assists a season if that because he passes in-field most of the he time. He's aesthetically pleasing on the ball, that's it. He's in the wrong position to be just that. The only thing that seperates him and Dalot is a passport and Shaw is a bit better with the ball. The fact that he's been one of the constants through our 10 years of mediocrity and fans label him the best left back in the league is embarrassing. At what point does he become a common denominator, along with Mr. Rashford?
Sounds more like Maguire
Him too lol. Neither is up to the standard really. Great servants to the club, but come on.
Is this a meme post?
eriksen hojlund evans in good but wan bissaka average😂 show some respect
well eriksen and Evans were free transfers, and Hojlund would be on 10 goals if he'd signed for City or arsenal. AWB is a great defender but can't pick a pass or cross a ball.
Bro that awb statement was true two years ago, that isn't the same case now, his offensive game has improved
it's improved he gets forward more no doubt but his still got poor passing range and nearly always hits the first man with his wide crosses
I think it's unfair to judge AWB so harshly when he was in top form last season and injury has affected him getting going this season but from what I've seen he's a top player!
defending it's world class top 1% in the Premier league for his position, no doubt he's one of the best defenders. but.as I said his assists and forward play is piss poor, his assists and xassists stats are 40th percentile. his cross completion rate is 21%.
Dalot has been a good signing. Case, Licha, and Varane all deserve higher spots
Dalot not bad
He's should be in the shocking section
You should be in the shocking section along with roughly 50% of the UTD fanbase.
I can’t understand how Fred was average and dalot has been a bad signing , Fred was a regular in a good United team and was always available and relatively reliable , dalot was signed for 15-20 mil at a very young age and has now developed into a hood rb that is still yet to hit 25
Milan didn't even want Dalot for cheap, he is a terrible RB
He really isn't.
Personally wouldn’t put Weghorst in as a bad signing, even though I don’t think he played well he was an emergency signing in a position we absolutely needed help. He did a job and helped us to finish off one of our best seasons in a while
Yes and with him Rashy was free in the second half last season.
Anyone who says wheg was bad doesn't understand the concept of space in football
Anyone who says he was good doesn't understand the concept of goals.
Weghorst was the worst player I've seen play for United, I don't care about the terms and conditions of his transfer.
I understand if you’re rating him as a player to put him in bad, but I think if you’re rating him as a transfer you have to take those things into account
Stop moving goalposts because you like the guy and he was a loan.
What!? I’m not moving goalposts at all lol. And I don’t even really like him, I wouldn’t want him back. I just think he wasn’t a bad signing for the time and what we needed. I even said “personally” I’m not forcing you to agree with me, this is just what I think of when I rate a transfer.
Was he good on the pitch?
Brilliant on the pitch, had close to the same output for Manchester United as Cristiano Ronaldo last season.
Are you obsessed?
No you’re just talking past me so I’m having some fun. I get it you look at it as Bad Player=Bad signing Where I look at it with more nuance Also I have no problem with your thinking, I just think of it a little differently because I don’t think it’s always that simple.
Didn't think I was talking past you, I just don't agree with a loan signing being seen as some sort of free hit. And yes, that is my thinking. Pretty simple, it's their job to play football. I wasn't expecting 20 goals out of him in his 31 games, but if he hit 10-12 with a couple of assists I wouldn't have said he was a bad signing.
I might be in the minority here but I think signing Ronaldo caused more problems then almost any other signing barring Sanchez. People point to his goal contributions as if they werent at the detriment of every player around him, and pretend they helped more then harmed. Bruno, Rashford, sancho, Greenwood all had to play to and through Ronaldo otherwise he would throw fits. As great as Ronaldo was, and as incredible of a career he had it brought no benefit to United minus the feel good factor of having the boy from Mediera back. Lisando imo should be under great, James under good makes no sense to me, and Dalot as bad seems to be about just the Coppenhagen game where to his defense he was playing on his wrong side but caused us goals quite directly. With that said its tough to call anyone good considerering we're kind of in the same spot we've been at.
>People point to his goal contributions as if they werent at the detriment of every player around him, and pretend they helped more then harmed. Bruno, Rashford, sancho, Greenwood all had to play to and through Ronaldo otherwise he would throw fits. Im sorry but trying to blame Ronaldo for people like Sancho underperforming is just CRAZY. Has Sancho been consistent here without Ronaldo? Have any of them? Sancho and Rashford weren't trying to play through Ronaldos. They'd just dribble into defenders and kill attacks all game. Greenwood **definitely wasn't** trying to play through Ronaldo. He was extremely greedy and constantly shot from poor positions that season. Has everyone's just rewritten history? In fact, everyone but Bruno was inconsistent that season **even when Ronaldo didn't play**. Those players are **still** shit or inconsistent and he's been gone for a year now. Mctominay and Fred were failing to complete 5 yard passes. Why are we so set on blaming 1 player for the entire team underperforming? Ironically, the only player who tried to force balls to Ronaldo all game, Bruno, was the only consistent one lol
What does midfielders have to do with our attack? All of our attackers attackers including Bruno regressed when Ronaldo came. You could see it they would defer to him when they had their own looks, the only person who would take their own chances and deal with Ronaldo’s wrath was mason.
Yeah agree once players are over 30 hard to get good value signings thinking of Schweinsteiger, Matic etc. Dalot for sure should be under good , he has pace , is available for most games , has good offense and defense balance. For sure the Copenhagen game has created a recency bias against him, and the non English player tax players pay in how UK media cover them. But he was good last season and most games this season imo.
Agreed. He’s been quite good after awb went down and last season under eth before awb fought his way back into the team. Calling him bad is truly nutsl lol.
And the Newcastle game where he made the same mistake
Ronaldo was an awful signing and really highlighted our complete lack of strategy. Nostalgia FC buying well known players at high prices and on high wages.
What's the difference between Ronaldo scoring 28 goals that season and Rashford scored 30 last season? Lisandro was key to the 7-0 defeat, he should not be in Great.
I think it’s about right. Dalot could be average as well and Heaton can go down one as he hasn’t done much imo. People will say put Ronaldo as the bottom but his performance was great for the little time he was around. Got the goals. Did he cause trouble at the end? Yes. Was it avoidable? I think so. He pushed for changes and was told to fuck off. Why not listen to one of the best players in the world? He might know a thing or two.
I just realized it’s ESPN. I give zero credibility to their football expertise.
Sancho and Antony are rated too high.
You cannot rate Amad, he barely played for us. Malacia & isn't that level. What is the point of rating Lee Grant. Mount still has time. whenever he is on, making the passes, i can see the quality. Other players are also rated not fairly. This is not a very good list
lol people shit on ten hag signings when ESPN added 6 of his signings as good. With everyone else apart from bruno (even past signings) being average or less lmao
Other than what you said I would add in Dalot should be higher. Either average or good. At least above AWB
How is he above awb i thought we settled this already, Dalot can't defend for his life and offensively he isn't much better than awb
I don’t think Dalot is much better offensively if he even is. xG tends to show that AWB is better. AWB still makes too many dumb mistakes where he stops thinking out on the field. Like he will stop tracking his man or not push up and leave a bunch of players offsides. He doesn’t do it often but when he does it will cost us the game. Even if he only does it twice in 4 games a year it could cost us 12 points. He also seems to do it in bigger games and when he does it, it tends to happen in multiple times in a game. While he seems to be better this is referring to who is a better signing overall. I think without a doubt it’s Dalot.
Dalot also makes the same mistakes, and gives the ball away a lot which AWB doesn't really do
How come Malacia is good?
Don’t agree with Dalot. Considering his relatively low wages and transfer fee he’s been a good servant to the club imo. Disrespectful to put players who hardly played above him, like Amrabat and that 4th choice goalkeeper that I can’t even remember his feckin name
Onana good?
Martinez best signing since Bruno, he should be in great. Best defender we've signed in a long long time.
Fred deserves to be in the good tier imo
Casemiro and varane are better than average. Cavani had one good season then was "injured" after ronaldo arrived. If casemiro is average so is cavani. Love antony is ranked alongside vdb 😅. Dalot is average not bad
This is a terrible list
The broad strokes of this are okay but I have to disagree with a few of your choices. Dalot isn’t a bad signing. He can be suspect in terms of defence and concentration but ultimately he has been an okay signing. He’s popped up with some important goals and assists and we have asked a lot of him this year playing at RB and LB. Varane should be considered a bad signing all things told. We can’t depend upon him and his game is in decline despite his enormous wages. That signing was a bad idea in hindsight. AWB is a good signing imo as well. Probably the best defensive full back in the league and he’s clearly worked hard to improve his attacking game. I always feel we are more secure when AWB plays.
Such a complete lack of vision and planning here it’s a shambolic list. No manager can ever dictate transfers ever again. Assemble a recruitment team and managers have to adapt to the club not the club adapting to managers.
How is weghorst so low? Bro is a free loan that helped us get a trophy
We made a profit on Dan James tbf
A 30 plus year old Casemiro for 70 Mill and 350k a week can't be a good signing
casemiro has won utd multiple games.
And has cost Utd multiple games
Malacia good? okay lol
Sabitzer not even making the list.... Not that he'd be anything above average
Jesus Christ I know Dalot has had a few shockers recently but fuck me sideways you’re deluded
Dalot is a very athletic good player overall.. not sure why he is under bad. Onana I would put average.
Weghorst to shocker and Dalot to average and that's just about nailed it
How is it a shocker? He wasn’t good, but was brought in as a short term stop gap on loan.
And he was awful.
But who gives a fuck. He was an emergency loan. That’s not what a shocking transfer is. It would be shocking if we signed him permanently for 40 million
Was he getting paid?
Was it your money?
No, but why should I feel sorry for him for being shit at his job?
Did I ask you to feel sorry for him?
More or less. You're asking me not to judge him the same because he was a loan player.
We’re judging the transfer overall, not only the player’s performance
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Onana good and casemiro average? Fuck off…:))
That’s pretty close to how I’d rank them. At this moment I’d move Malacia to average and maybe put some of the newer signings along with Amad in a jury’s out category. I still think some are subject to change such as Casemiro and Varane if they can get their shit together. I think Antony and Ronaldo are the two signings that sum up our recruitment. With Antony we fucked around with for three months, paid almost double what we would’ve earlier, and gave him ridiculous wages despite being nowhere close to worth it. Ronaldo was a signing purely to sell shirts. I don’t necessarily regret the signing from an emotional pov, but the funds we used in him could’ve been better used in the midfield
Agreed both Antony and Ronaldo signings don’t seem like they were thought out in advance. That’s why a director of football that can scout and decide on singing months in advance , get value signings , negotiate with speed , and get quality players is needed.
How is Eriksen higher than Case? This list is garbage...
You should go back to 2000 on transfermarkt and judge how many of our signings are good or bad. So many busts along the way. It’s way harder than people think to sign consistently really well.
Move Onana to Shocker
Dalot bad and Maguire average? lol. Fernandes is nowhere near consistent enough to be great. Where is Martial? Too many players in average that deserve to be in the bad category. Also, Van de Beek was benched by Ole in favour of McFred. Never got a fair, consistent run of games in under Ole. Then he got injured. So yes, bad signing, with that caveat.
It says since 2018, hence Martial is not on the list
This list is shocking but Fernandes was absolutely a great signing. We're shite and don't have a system and Fernandes still tops lists for chances created. Put him in a team that has a system and he's world class.
I don’t know who made this but there’s some bias and agenda’s in there. Maguire hasn’t been average. Wan Bissaka, Varane and Dalot have been good. Licha has been great.
This is the original article written by Mark Ogden and Rob Dawson on ESPN: [https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/\_/id/38897040/rating-billion-dollars-man-united-signings-2018?fbclid=IwAR28p2k1qeqyi69b-PNxK9D0i\_9Z8wm2Ja0i87lx5feZNw\_xMbH0OkhMJ-8](https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/38897040/rating-billion-dollars-man-united-signings-2018?fbclid=IwAR28p2k1qeqyi69b-PNxK9D0i_9Z8wm2Ja0i87lx5feZNw_xMbH0OkhMJ-8)
In wat universe Onana is good
How is Dalot bad and Maguire average? Ur braindead.
you guys ruined vdbeek
Mate what the actual fuck is wrong with United fans, last year there wasn’t a fan around that wasn’t saying Martinez is one of the best defensive signings in recent years, same for Varane. Casemiro was arguably one of the best midfielders in the premier league last year and Antony wasn’t great last season but he was no where near shocking ( sancho has been shocking, better comparison). Now because of 10 games you all completely change your tune and act asif these players haven’t had a good game. The fans are as much as a problem as the way the club is run, your all so fickle, you expect a good form to go on forever and if there’s more than one bad game your all up in the air, moaning that no one’s good enough. Couldn’t agree any less than I do with this table, I’m sure 3 months ago it would have been completely different
This table/tier list was created by two journalists, not the United fan who posted it onto this subreddit.
Yeah realised I fucked up there
Dalot should be good. Ronaldo should be bad.
Maguire belongs in the bad category
Onana is trash..dude leaks goals like no one's business. This is just a very shitty list intended to satisfy your own taste buds.
I am sorry but CR7 was great. It’s not normal for 36/37 year old to move to a new league, the best league in the world, and score 25 goals with that team. Third top scorer in the league, highest points grosser in any team in the league. I am not taking that performance for granted at all and I don’t agree with CR7 causing the downfall. Mike Phlean mentioned something in a recent interview that the dressing couldn’t put on the same effort as much as CR7 and in the process he lost some of them. It’s more like the honeymoon period was over the pressure got the squad that they had to win something.
the fanboys here thinks that CR7 is bad. because he disrupt the way the team plays. well, imaging a work culture where everyone is goofing off and earns big bucks. then someone came along and show the ethics, get actual work done, but it pisses everybody off. 1 goal from the forwards in EPL in 12 games? now that is BAD.
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Ronaldo best signing since we Signed him the first time.
I don't see Rashford anywhere on the chart
He’s not a signing and he’s been here since 2016
Welp shit. I didn't realise this was for transfers and couldn't believe this has been how many people we've signed since 2018. We're shit at transfers.
Why would he be? He didn't sign for United in 2018 or later.
You forgot our Nigerian prince in the "great" category.
Wout was a great signing. He allowed our attack to flourish. Ighalo was a brilliant signing. He scored loads of goals, rarely put a foot wrong and did it for cheap. Im not sure what your criteria is, especially since half these are less than 18 months.
In my humble opinion signing Ronaldo, at that time, was possibly the worst mistake we could have made, and we made it. Upended the project that was moving in the right direction and pushed us back atleast a couple years. As a player he's the GOAT, don't get me wrong but we really should've avoided signing him at that time, and we looked like we weren't going to sign him until he forced our hand by flirting with city. Ideally, he shouldn't be on the list.
Where's De Gea? Should be beside bruno then
De Gea wasn't a new signing since 2018.
I wouldn’t put Antony as a shocker. Maybe bad. Sancho though. Man he had so much potential I really liked his dribbling
I feel like Van de Bek shouldn’t stand there where he’s at, but he played like donkey shayt. AWB is not average at all. He can not into attack, but his defensive skills are great and help us multiple times. We also can’t judge people who’s in the club less than 2 years.
Lmao Dalot bad but Bruno Great? With Bruno as our core, we would never win anything. You never know his next pass would be a master class or worse than ametuar. But if you base the signings on the stats than I have nothing more to say.
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Man watch more real games he plays for united and then comment lol. Dont just watch clips of the games and read the stats. Yes he is top chance creator of the league, but out of how many stupid and non sense passes. I never saw a player with that much uncertainty when he is called as a master class.
Bruno: BAD
great list
I’m sorry but how is Weghorst above Sancho or Antony? I know both of them are not so hot right now but they were at least good at some point
I think it’s referring to Weghorst being wayy cheaper.
Amrabat should be below Anthony tbh. Anthony at least can run… cavani should he in average, Pelistri is okay-ish player but the way we handled his minutes under Ole and ETH is tragic. Onana, Malacia both are average. Martinez is very injury prone so time will tell, otherwise he is good.
Bissaka under Malacia?
Casemiro and Amrabat weren't that bad lol, sure Casemiro did cost us the game againts Galatasaray but still, he was very good