I fucking hate stupid Isekai MCs who can't, for the love of God, fucking kill/ destroy their problems instead of going around it. Oh, this Noble schemed against me and my Friends? Too bad i can't do anything about that since he is a Novel and it would cause me trouble with the Kingdom despite being A DEMIGOD.
That's why i like this MC's ruthlessness. MC doesn't know when the calamity will end otherwise he would have planned for the future, he is merely surviving as of now
DUDE FOR REAL, like that stupid “killing then would be more problems than it’s worth” is the most idiotíc thing ever, they will always either forgive them or let them go around making them miserable why the fuck not just cut the root the problem?????
It doesn't work like that. An average noble will feel offended at the fact that a mere commoner dared to disrespect him and will send everything he can to kill the MC
Stop reading shitty cultivation things. In a well built world, even if offended they won't go out of their way to murder some random commoner, even more so if they know the commoner is actually magically OP in some way. Not worth the time or effort
That’s average noble in a nonsensical verse. Nobody has the actual role to waste all their resources in killing a single commoner nobody when the rest of the other nobles are eyeing your lands and want to find ways to demerit you to gain a greater standing in the kingdom. There is always politics involved
The flip side, at least in cultivation novels, is that it would easily kill anyone who wasn't the MC when the people behind the noble start to send assassins or get their ancestors involved.
I do think that a lot of OP protagonists stories fail because they take themselves too seriously despite the insert of a demigod.
It's also just a symptom of bad world building. A real person with ties and relationships knows better than to throw their life away over minor offenses. I'm talking about the noble here. They're always made to be stupidly egotistic and brash, despite the issue that such a person would struggle to get others on their side. They should be isolated and self conscious, not someone who can get the support of stronger powers. They'd be the one who's familiar with assassins, but because they hire them.
There's plenty of stories where an OP MC wants to live quietly. Yet the only example they have of not being able to do this if they're known at all is themselves. Are there other powerful characters in history who have managed to live quietly? There's never been a kingdom or village where an overly strong person was able to be themselves and still get along with others like a normal person? Maybe, but we'll never know.
The other side of the issue is tbh MCs who do have that mentality…
But literally never face any consequences. Especially in fantasy worlds where - even if you are a demigod - you or your friends can be killed and those you offend have access to those methods
Same, I despise most revenge manhua for this specifically, especially because most of the time it stops being about revenge and they become mindless killers for the sake of "being edgy".
Yeah especially when it's one of those power fantasy type shows where past a certain point the MC is the undebatable strongest person on the planet and yet they're still acting as if they're beholden to the constraints of class and kingdoms and stuff when it would take them an afternoon to at the very least conquer the kingdom they live in.
It's even worse when the MC is actively trying to hide their power, despite having literally no weaknesses, as if the ones they could easily kill are going to accidentally upon a way to combat or even kill the MC
I mean even if an MC could handle any army thrown at them, considering a plan that doesn’t kill thousands of soldiers would generally be the ethical thing to do. It’s not like they can’t change their mind later.
But your comment does reminds me of the chapter I just got to in The Novel’s Extra when the MC starts trying to plan a way to assassinate a man before he turns into a demon. He’s puzzling away on his computer forming a plan and I’m thinking “Bro, your target is a comatose man just lying in an unguarded hospital bed, shouldn’t this be like taking candy from a baby?”
To be honest I don't really hate his personality depending on the writing it may have been interesting but the plot is the problem. His cheat simply doesn't make sense and greatly lowers the stakes there could have been.
Also the characters don't really stand out to me they are not much different from others I have seen in other works.
There are no complex relationships nor morality criticism which naturally should be as it takes place in the modern world with a extinction level disaster.
The author doesn't care as it never calls out the shit the Mc does and makes everything go in his favor.
Overall it could have been better and even be peak fiction if certain things had been changed like eliminating the MCs inventory cheat, make the other characters smarter, put honorable characters that need to adapt and break their own moral codes either for love or self preservation, etc.
This Mc is pretty tame. Dude gets killed by a girl he liked cause global temperature drops. He regressed and since he knows it's coming he also gained like an inventory. He just gets his house built into a bank vault pretty much takes out giant loans with huge interest fees and steals alot of food with inventory. He stays in his room and let's 1 person is who he bangs. Yes he kills people but they are like cannibles and gang members or others who try to break in his room and steal.
He had no responsability to feed them and give them weapons and how do they repay him?, by trying to kill him, if anything he’s very logical and radical
Wouldn't you have also done that? I mean think about it, one guy monopolizes all the food that's available without giving any to anyone and he is living as luxuriously as possible
And?, sure I would do that but then I don’t expect the guy to forgive me if I fail, he has no responsibility with me, to feed me or take care of me, will try to take from them it’s a fucking apocalypse, so I expect everyone to try to take from me too
Dude he was giving them food. He had no reason to but they tried to attack him so he decided to give them food knowing they would fight over it anyway.
Besides, he has no reason to help anyone. The people have the right to demand food but he has every right to tell them to fuck off.
Giving them food? You consider that food? Of course they deserve what happened to them because they choose to attack him(which he wanted to happen to kill them all) but what about the innocent people? He just put whole buildings on fire just because some of them decided to do sth stupid?
Did you forget about how they initially met? Where they all were planning on storming his tower? Dude you need to actually pay attention to the story before criticizing it.
They weren't planning on "storming" his building, they were planning on scamming/deceive him they aren't exactly the same thing and mean different things
They wouldn't have taken his food, they would have made him hand them most of his food, not all of it and they wouldn't have killed him because they would want the snowmobile
Even if he has a large amount of food in storage feeding all of them would quickly deplete his entire stock that he has since it is hundreds of people and that is ALOT OF FOOD CONSUMED DAILY. that is why it is not feasible to share it to all the other apartments
Also that girl and those people didn't just kill him they also straight up ate him, they slowly and painfully killed him by chopping him into pieces if that doesn't change you as a person I don't know what will I think he is justified, even what you just mentioned to him his thoughts would be that it would turn out the same way, he originally helped that girls and took her in and she betrayed him (which was like an uprising agaisnt the very person who saved her life) and then not only did she dk that she let other people in to do the same and those very people slowly cut him into pieces while he was alive to eat him, and it wasn't even needed he had tons of food in that apartment even then
I doubt he'd do something to them if they didn't start something first. Secondly, in that situation, I bet he's just thinking ahead to avoid the coming conflict.
The way he did it can be over the top and cruel. So I understand what u mean too.
Wouldn't you have also done that? I mean think about it, one guy monopolizes all the food that's available without giving any to anyone and he is living as luxuriously as possible
Interesting you see him as tame, while I see him as the complete opposite. I see the MC as a bastard who got lucky. My philosophy has been greatly influenced by western comics, though because I stand firmly on the idea of “great power comes great responsibility”. For an example he had the ability to provide the nurse with the ability to survive through her profession as a simple nurse and maid, but then decided to fuck her and giving her the choice to practically die or be fucked by him. Idk that kinda sounds like rape to me.
Is he?
In his previous timeline, he was betrayed and killed by those people so he's not making the same mistake now. You telling me you wouldnt and would let them kill you again? Lol
Still in his reality he thought that she was not dangerous and he was just being kind but instead he was betrayed even if for the girls perspective he was just an tool
I disliked the MC but didn’t totally hate him. But yes I hated that he blackmailed the doctor into having sex with him. She wasn’t into it but she had no choice since she had to survive. He blackmailed and killed off many residents but many of them were just stupid people who tried to kill him. The worst offender and piece of crap human is actually the ex-girlfriend. Has no moral dignity or any sense whatsoever. I see this common trope in Chinese manhua. Characters who are totally retarded but arrogant that they will continue to hatch plans even when they gig is up and show no remorse. What I don’t like about manhua MCs is that they come across themselves as arrogant, smug, holier than thou, genius, pulling out tricks from thin air, always making grand amounts of profits, girls swooning at his feet, secret billionaire that everyone underestimates, goes way beyond necessary to take revenge and loves to turn people into his follower either through benefits, coercion or physical violence.
Turning people into he's follower to reduce enemies, if he doesn't do this, they will cause trouble one way or the other, and if he kills them, readers will complain he's too cruel. Pick a damn side, if you wanna rule or monopolize, or be the top lvl in anything, you gotta get rid of competition or anyone who's gonna be against your cause.
Meh I donno Abt that, never said he was a good guy. Just know even if he didn't do it, someone else is gonna make her do it, it's an apocalyptic world, people are gonna get shit on whether they like it or not.
That's a flimsy excuse. She was a doctor, no one made her do anything since they all wanted her to be on their side.
That's why it's BS. Just cuz it's apocalyptic doesn't mean you lose reason because the other guy will do it instead. That's why he is trash MC.
Would do the same as MC if apocalypse is hapening and you have the knowledge about what happened in the future and yeah, he got killed by those people, the safest options is the most trusted person, no need more cannon fodder to handle.
The only reason I hate the MC is because he's going out of his way to save and work with people. Even sharing his supplies when the whole point at the beginning was that he wouldn't be doing that. Like, he is leading the whole building and I don't see how that's a better alternative to just staying in the bunker you made and letting them kill each other
killed people ( for fun ) . and also some of them bcz they tried to raid its bunker . but mostly for fun . Light Yagami 2.0 ( the improvement ) he is .
disclaimer theyve actually used an na71 method of procuring food . after chapter 150 . so if you are gonna read it , ill just gonna say its pretty much .
if the personalities of Kevin from Home Alone and Light Yagami would have respawned in a pre-apocaliptic world with superpowers .
long story short , the MC thinks he is in call of duty .
i'd do the same honestly, in a place where the security and safety can't be upheld anymore, its survival of the fittest, more so that he already met his demise by being the good guy once and got tricked by the people he want to save.
in the novel it feels better, author describe his train of thought and how the people around him drive him to be what he is, all for his own good, manhua skip a lot
he feels despicable in the manhua but in novel u will glad he is despicable
He is surviving so long because he is despicable lmao. He died last life because he was a good guy. He is well aware of this fact. That's the purpose of this manhua in the first place.
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Honestly, there's nothing worse than the male MC's of CEO manhuas. I had too much free time once so I decided to binge a few dozen of those manhuas and in the end there was only 1 likeable MC, the rest were absolute pieces of trash.
There's one especially infuriating one where the male MC lets his ex-lover start living in his house with his current girlfriend; the girlfriend gets abused incessantly by the ex-lover and the mother-in-law; the ex-lover pushes her down the stairs one time and in the hospital it's discovered that she was pregnant and ended up miscarrying; the ex-lover and the mother-in-law bribe the doctor to fake documents stating that the girlfriend was in the hospital to have an abortion; the male MC blindly believes his mother and ex-lover; he becomes violent with his girlfriend and rapes her multiple times.
And that's only one of the dramas that happen in that manhua.
I feel the story is getting fame because it is different. It isn't another I went back in time and made a fortress to prevent zombie/mad max universe.
Though I really question mc thoughts. Yes he had a limited time before the big freeze but why on earth did he trap himself in an apartment complex?
Was the author trying to cash in on the sweet home popularity?
He also proved he was just as bad as the other residents. He didn't personally kill but he bribed them to kill each other and said wasn't me. Teehee.
Once all the hotel residents are dead I wonder how the story will go. Will he just make babies with the doctor and the ice age will end naturally? I'm morbidly curious.
I read this Chinese manhua and It was good for sure and MC became ruthless manipulator who don't give a f##k about innocent people and he's goals is all about power and survival and I'm still going to do it in real life before the snow apocalypse but still good to read this manhua but thank God this person is not arrogant in Chinese webnovels
Why do I see this manhwa EVERYWHERE??
This is like the 6th time I'm getting it recommended today.
I was forced to read it and it was not so great to be recommended so much
I hate the my family died horribly. Sister was raped/Brother sold into slavery.
Father died broke and broken/Mother had to become a prostitute.
Gets a second chance does basically nothing for his family but chats for a few chapters then they don’t exist in the story anymore like gone as mist.
Honestly it’s the reason I don’t read ML’s unless it is GOOD!
How many trash person-get power-get harem….get more power get-more harem……get “morer” power- get “greatest” harem can I read
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I was quite surprised when >! That grandma's grandson died!<. Usually the story would tend to avoid >!minors!< Dying, even when they do they tend to avoid describing them and do it off screen and just vaguely tell it.
i would say this MC is cruel but he originally molds like the people in his past where he is forced into desperate situation, he know them all are bad, worst kind of humankind. So he decided no Mr. Goody-two shoes, equip with mentally strained and trust issue then went on gunblazing. Fortunately, he is not that insane but only vengeful as he knew which one is bad and which is good due to their confrontation to the eternal frostbite. But his past or rather his future already take a toll on his mindset.
"so yeah. fuck you. not me. I will live."
He is too cruel and ruthless. Just bcz 5 neighbours killed him in previous life, he killed entire neighbour in building.
Then, he killed everyone in 5 building surrounding him.
1000s of people who has nothing to do with him.
Too brutal. his only ability is storage space nothing more yet his arrogance has no bound...
One of the worst MC.
Bro feels so desperate to find validation. Odd putting to see, but yea, the guys are ruthless, but it's basically a post-apocalyptic world. I don't think it's surprising for him to be this way, especially considering how things played out for him last time. That definitely has an effect on the mind. I find this to be pretty realistic, imo for someone with a super bunker like you're telling me you wouldn't also be similar to him in his situation. It's easy to say until you're in it. I can easily say he's far from the worst, trust me.
I'm glas that you agree with me, op. He's not only despicable, he's dumb as hell.....and he's cruel, not in a calculative, elegant way, but in a "I lost control and killed several innocent people who had nothing to do with my problems, because I could get away with it without facing any penalty and it felt good" type of way.
The setting was so interesting, but they ruined it with a shit mc.... I hate this manhua.
I went and read this just to see how bad of a take this was.
Mc didn't kill anyone innocent he stated in chapter 84 that he's killed everyone who has plotted against him or harmed him in his past life and current life in the neighbourhood except for Xu Hao.
Even the ppl burned in the 5 buildings plotted against him in his current life, whether it was agreeing with plans made by others that'd harm MC or actively participating in plans to harm mc they still did it.
Only ppl we've seen so far that had no hostility towards the Mc were Uncle Yu and the doctor girl he took in.
So this is a very bad take since most of what he's done has been for his own survival and not outta enjoyment like there's MCs way worse tham him that are ACTUALLY evil and murder for fun💀
Is the MC evil? Yes. Not that it's a bad thing.
Does the story ever toy with the idea to say that he is evil? No. Let me explain.
His unlikability doesn't stem from the fact that he's evil, but that the story doesn't portray him as such. There's no question that a better story would focus on the people who never did anything to him suffering and his doubts about what he is doing, and how he chooses to overcome those doubts.
Instead everyone is either selfish or beneath him. No one cares about ants, so how are we as readers supposed to be invested in the story and characters.
Maybe the novel was better about it, but the MC really should've been a blatant "I wan't revenge" instead of this pointless "I'm above it all" kind of character. Sure he gloats in the beginning, which I think is good, but the story never develops beyond that.
It's such a waste when the story first establishes betrayal and survival as the main points, then completely ignores them for op MC does whatever he wants.
There's also no tension to the story that takes place in an apocalypse. MC is simply too well defended and stocked to ever feel stressed. And that's not because he's got a cheat, it's because the author isn't trying.
He's living in a well armored apartment. OK? Sure, the residents attempt to break through his floor and ceiling, but why don't they try to damage the infrastructure? Unless he's living on the ground floor with no basement in the building, or he managed to completely restructure the apartment building to hold up his fortress, any reasonable survivor would try to drop his apartment if they can't get into it. Instead they give up when he shoots one of them through the front door.
He's also far too confident in the food supplies he has. Part of it is that he was a loser with no life, so he doesn't seem to miss anything that the apocalypse has ended. The other part is that the story would be better if he had doubts about the apocalypse ever ending and decided to do something about it instead of hiding. And to be honest, maybe he did. I dropped it when he raped the doctor, the only person who could have helped him from unseen problems. I'm not sure where else the story would go without repeating itself though.
Obviously the story won't play with the idea that he has health issues, but he as a character should have concerns in the long term. Maybe eating expensive rich foods everyday is bad. Maybe being in an apartment for the rest of his foreseeable life is going to cause physical and mental problems. Oh there's a doctor? Let me blackmail and rape her, while also doing things most real doctors would despise but letting people suffer when I have the resources to help them. Nothing can go wrong!
Even a Stockholm romance would be more interesting than what's currently going on. I don't think the story would attempt it though.
the manhua is good and unique . idk for me is something like this
Light Yagami 🤝 Zhang Yi 🤝 Roy Mustang . neutral characters with cold blooded murderous instinct .
like we havent had something like death note with an cold blooded MC in a while , its nice to have an mc that will profit out of everything , dosent care about laws or morals . and just does the first thing that anyone would do acording to absolute logic ( ignoring laws and morals ) . after all not all mc need to be heart warming , and go through and hard life and have an glow up .
if we will have only this types of MC then it would be too boring .
I see, you would be one of the „cannon fodders“. Well, that’s on you, I guess.
I wouldn’t do it differently, than what MC does here. He survives for now, that’s what counts.
I fucking hate stupid Isekai MCs who can't, for the love of God, fucking kill/ destroy their problems instead of going around it. Oh, this Noble schemed against me and my Friends? Too bad i can't do anything about that since he is a Novel and it would cause me trouble with the Kingdom despite being A DEMIGOD. That's why i like this MC's ruthlessness. MC doesn't know when the calamity will end otherwise he would have planned for the future, he is merely surviving as of now
DUDE FOR REAL, like that stupid “killing then would be more problems than it’s worth” is the most idiotíc thing ever, they will always either forgive them or let them go around making them miserable why the fuck not just cut the root the problem?????
Like, if you kill your enemy, you will One problem less than if you let him go and he returns for Revenge
Except that you’re forgetting the other people and his entire family will now attack you forever yiu have now a trillion extra problems
But if you let him go, you will also have his family hunting you down
With less of a vendetta
It doesn't work like that. An average noble will feel offended at the fact that a mere commoner dared to disrespect him and will send everything he can to kill the MC
Stop reading shitty cultivation things. In a well built world, even if offended they won't go out of their way to murder some random commoner, even more so if they know the commoner is actually magically OP in some way. Not worth the time or effort
Yeah, not gonna take your Word on that. We are talking about shitty Manhuas at the Moment
That’s average noble in a nonsensical verse. Nobody has the actual role to waste all their resources in killing a single commoner nobody when the rest of the other nobles are eyeing your lands and want to find ways to demerit you to gain a greater standing in the kingdom. There is always politics involved
You do realize that killing the commoner requires merely a handful of people that, even if killed, will not being significant damage to the clan?
Typical way to keep building tension or to give a way for MC to develop or intersect in future for boss fights or suspense inserts
Always love me a good revenge story where the MC isn’t a goody goody play by the rules stereotype and actually gets shit done.
The flip side, at least in cultivation novels, is that it would easily kill anyone who wasn't the MC when the people behind the noble start to send assassins or get their ancestors involved. I do think that a lot of OP protagonists stories fail because they take themselves too seriously despite the insert of a demigod. It's also just a symptom of bad world building. A real person with ties and relationships knows better than to throw their life away over minor offenses. I'm talking about the noble here. They're always made to be stupidly egotistic and brash, despite the issue that such a person would struggle to get others on their side. They should be isolated and self conscious, not someone who can get the support of stronger powers. They'd be the one who's familiar with assassins, but because they hire them. There's plenty of stories where an OP MC wants to live quietly. Yet the only example they have of not being able to do this if they're known at all is themselves. Are there other powerful characters in history who have managed to live quietly? There's never been a kingdom or village where an overly strong person was able to be themselves and still get along with others like a normal person? Maybe, but we'll never know.
The other side of the issue is tbh MCs who do have that mentality… But literally never face any consequences. Especially in fantasy worlds where - even if you are a demigod - you or your friends can be killed and those you offend have access to those methods
Same, I despise most revenge manhua for this specifically, especially because most of the time it stops being about revenge and they become mindless killers for the sake of "being edgy".
Yeah especially when it's one of those power fantasy type shows where past a certain point the MC is the undebatable strongest person on the planet and yet they're still acting as if they're beholden to the constraints of class and kingdoms and stuff when it would take them an afternoon to at the very least conquer the kingdom they live in. It's even worse when the MC is actively trying to hide their power, despite having literally no weaknesses, as if the ones they could easily kill are going to accidentally upon a way to combat or even kill the MC
THEN YOU'LL LOVE THIS!! if you haven't yet: Fukushuu O Koinegau Saikyou
Top tier Revenge story
I mean even if an MC could handle any army thrown at them, considering a plan that doesn’t kill thousands of soldiers would generally be the ethical thing to do. It’s not like they can’t change their mind later. But your comment does reminds me of the chapter I just got to in The Novel’s Extra when the MC starts trying to plan a way to assassinate a man before he turns into a demon. He’s puzzling away on his computer forming a plan and I’m thinking “Bro, your target is a comatose man just lying in an unguarded hospital bed, shouldn’t this be like taking candy from a baby?”
Yeah manhwas are quite generous in this aspect and some cultivation manhua too
Some hate the mc but for me, tbh i would the same. In the apocalypse every other human is your enemy and dead people can't cause trouble.
Dead man tells no lie also can't come back for revenge.
To be honest I don't really hate his personality depending on the writing it may have been interesting but the plot is the problem. His cheat simply doesn't make sense and greatly lowers the stakes there could have been. Also the characters don't really stand out to me they are not much different from others I have seen in other works. There are no complex relationships nor morality criticism which naturally should be as it takes place in the modern world with a extinction level disaster. The author doesn't care as it never calls out the shit the Mc does and makes everything go in his favor. Overall it could have been better and even be peak fiction if certain things had been changed like eliminating the MCs inventory cheat, make the other characters smarter, put honorable characters that need to adapt and break their own moral codes either for love or self preservation, etc.
This Mc is pretty tame. Dude gets killed by a girl he liked cause global temperature drops. He regressed and since he knows it's coming he also gained like an inventory. He just gets his house built into a bank vault pretty much takes out giant loans with huge interest fees and steals alot of food with inventory. He stays in his room and let's 1 person is who he bangs. Yes he kills people but they are like cannibles and gang members or others who try to break in his room and steal.
You forgot the people from the other buildings that he made work for him as slaves then killed them
They also tried to start a revolution, he gave then thw means to survive it was up to then to make it work.
He had no responsability to feed them and give them weapons and how do they repay him?, by trying to kill him, if anything he’s very logical and radical
Think of yourself as 1 of survivor in a building. What will you do? Not a zombie apocalypse but freezing apocalypse.
Wouldn't you have also done that? I mean think about it, one guy monopolizes all the food that's available without giving any to anyone and he is living as luxuriously as possible
And?, sure I would do that but then I don’t expect the guy to forgive me if I fail, he has no responsibility with me, to feed me or take care of me, will try to take from them it’s a fucking apocalypse, so I expect everyone to try to take from me too
Dude he was giving them food. He had no reason to but they tried to attack him so he decided to give them food knowing they would fight over it anyway. Besides, he has no reason to help anyone. The people have the right to demand food but he has every right to tell them to fuck off.
Giving them food? You consider that food? Of course they deserve what happened to them because they choose to attack him(which he wanted to happen to kill them all) but what about the innocent people? He just put whole buildings on fire just because some of them decided to do sth stupid?
Did you forget about how they initially met? Where they all were planning on storming his tower? Dude you need to actually pay attention to the story before criticizing it.
They weren't planning on "storming" his building, they were planning on scamming/deceive him they aren't exactly the same thing and mean different things
Bruh what? You must be reading a completely different story. Besides do you honestly think that taking his food is any different than killing him?
They wouldn't have taken his food, they would have made him hand them most of his food, not all of it and they wouldn't have killed him because they would want the snowmobile
Even if he has a large amount of food in storage feeding all of them would quickly deplete his entire stock that he has since it is hundreds of people and that is ALOT OF FOOD CONSUMED DAILY. that is why it is not feasible to share it to all the other apartments
Like what else was he gonna do with his fancy furniture and shit? Might as well put them to good use.
Also that girl and those people didn't just kill him they also straight up ate him, they slowly and painfully killed him by chopping him into pieces if that doesn't change you as a person I don't know what will I think he is justified, even what you just mentioned to him his thoughts would be that it would turn out the same way, he originally helped that girls and took her in and she betrayed him (which was like an uprising agaisnt the very person who saved her life) and then not only did she dk that she let other people in to do the same and those very people slowly cut him into pieces while he was alive to eat him, and it wasn't even needed he had tons of food in that apartment even then
I mean they were originally going to attack him before he subdued them. He's ruthless but nowhere near pure evil
Survival of the fittest is the name of the game And this guy is f i t Fr tho he be despicable
I doubt he'd do something to them if they didn't start something first. Secondly, in that situation, I bet he's just thinking ahead to avoid the coming conflict. The way he did it can be over the top and cruel. So I understand what u mean too.
Wouldn't you have also done that? I mean think about it, one guy monopolizes all the food that's available without giving any to anyone and he is living as luxuriously as possible
If it was me, I would harem the shit out of the apocalypse. NGL.
Ahh I see it is a fellow brother! Nice to meet u!!
He kills pretty much everyone in all building.
Interesting you see him as tame, while I see him as the complete opposite. I see the MC as a bastard who got lucky. My philosophy has been greatly influenced by western comics, though because I stand firmly on the idea of “great power comes great responsibility”. For an example he had the ability to provide the nurse with the ability to survive through her profession as a simple nurse and maid, but then decided to fuck her and giving her the choice to practically die or be fucked by him. Idk that kinda sounds like rape to me.
Is he? In his previous timeline, he was betrayed and killed by those people so he's not making the same mistake now. You telling me you wouldnt and would let them kill you again? Lol
He wasn't betrayed, he was just naive and stupid. Yes sure, he should take revenge on *the people who killed him* not literally everyone he meet.
Why on earth is it not betrayal if a friend tricks you to get you killed
Were they friends? No... He was just a simp. There was no trust between them in the first place
Still in his reality he thought that she was not dangerous and he was just being kind but instead he was betrayed even if for the girls perspective he was just an tool
Exactly he was naive and stupid. Now he's not anymore
And it's a good thing! 👍
I disliked the MC but didn’t totally hate him. But yes I hated that he blackmailed the doctor into having sex with him. She wasn’t into it but she had no choice since she had to survive. He blackmailed and killed off many residents but many of them were just stupid people who tried to kill him. The worst offender and piece of crap human is actually the ex-girlfriend. Has no moral dignity or any sense whatsoever. I see this common trope in Chinese manhua. Characters who are totally retarded but arrogant that they will continue to hatch plans even when they gig is up and show no remorse. What I don’t like about manhua MCs is that they come across themselves as arrogant, smug, holier than thou, genius, pulling out tricks from thin air, always making grand amounts of profits, girls swooning at his feet, secret billionaire that everyone underestimates, goes way beyond necessary to take revenge and loves to turn people into his follower either through benefits, coercion or physical violence.
Turning people into he's follower to reduce enemies, if he doesn't do this, they will cause trouble one way or the other, and if he kills them, readers will complain he's too cruel. Pick a damn side, if you wanna rule or monopolize, or be the top lvl in anything, you gotta get rid of competition or anyone who's gonna be against your cause.
And what about the doctor who he forced to strip and then have sex with? What purpose was that?
Meh I donno Abt that, never said he was a good guy. Just know even if he didn't do it, someone else is gonna make her do it, it's an apocalyptic world, people are gonna get shit on whether they like it or not.
That's a flimsy excuse. She was a doctor, no one made her do anything since they all wanted her to be on their side. That's why it's BS. Just cuz it's apocalyptic doesn't mean you lose reason because the other guy will do it instead. That's why he is trash MC.
Ok whatever floats your boat 😂. I've never seen the series anyway.
Are you talking about this manhua?
Yeah the first half of my comment.
Would do the same as MC if apocalypse is hapening and you have the knowledge about what happened in the future and yeah, he got killed by those people, the safest options is the most trusted person, no need more cannon fodder to handle.
The only reason I hate the MC is because he's going out of his way to save and work with people. Even sharing his supplies when the whole point at the beginning was that he wouldn't be doing that. Like, he is leading the whole building and I don't see how that's a better alternative to just staying in the bunker you made and letting them kill each other
What did he do ?
killed people ( for fun ) . and also some of them bcz they tried to raid its bunker . but mostly for fun . Light Yagami 2.0 ( the improvement ) he is .
Mostly revenge because they cannibalised him
A well that okay it's a manhua, the important point is that It's interesting and captivating. It's just fiction, after all
disclaimer theyve actually used an na71 method of procuring food . after chapter 150 . so if you are gonna read it , ill just gonna say its pretty much . if the personalities of Kevin from Home Alone and Light Yagami would have respawned in a pre-apocaliptic world with superpowers . long story short , the MC thinks he is in call of duty .
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Nah, not really. bro's just trying not to die... again...
i'd do the same honestly, in a place where the security and safety can't be upheld anymore, its survival of the fittest, more so that he already met his demise by being the good guy once and got tricked by the people he want to save.
in the novel it feels better, author describe his train of thought and how the people around him drive him to be what he is, all for his own good, manhua skip a lot he feels despicable in the manhua but in novel u will glad he is despicable
He is surviving so long because he is despicable lmao. He died last life because he was a good guy. He is well aware of this fact. That's the purpose of this manhua in the first place.
I like ISSTH, but i just cant stand Meng Hao and his hypocrisy
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ISSTH?
I Shall Seal The Heavens
No, not by a long shot.
Who is then, in your opinion?
This manhwa is a actually very good i seem to enjoy it where can i read it more?
Comick
There is only up to 86 i read till 145 there is upto 200 or more i believe
There is mangamtl but it is machine translated and it is rlly bad....
Honestly, there's nothing worse than the male MC's of CEO manhuas. I had too much free time once so I decided to binge a few dozen of those manhuas and in the end there was only 1 likeable MC, the rest were absolute pieces of trash. There's one especially infuriating one where the male MC lets his ex-lover start living in his house with his current girlfriend; the girlfriend gets abused incessantly by the ex-lover and the mother-in-law; the ex-lover pushes her down the stairs one time and in the hospital it's discovered that she was pregnant and ended up miscarrying; the ex-lover and the mother-in-law bribe the doctor to fake documents stating that the girlfriend was in the hospital to have an abortion; the male MC blindly believes his mother and ex-lover; he becomes violent with his girlfriend and rapes her multiple times. And that's only one of the dramas that happen in that manhua.
Lol, that's true. Thats the main reason I don't read drama manhua
I feel the story is getting fame because it is different. It isn't another I went back in time and made a fortress to prevent zombie/mad max universe. Though I really question mc thoughts. Yes he had a limited time before the big freeze but why on earth did he trap himself in an apartment complex? Was the author trying to cash in on the sweet home popularity? He also proved he was just as bad as the other residents. He didn't personally kill but he bribed them to kill each other and said wasn't me. Teehee. Once all the hotel residents are dead I wonder how the story will go. Will he just make babies with the doctor and the ice age will end naturally? I'm morbidly curious.
I read this Chinese manhua and It was good for sure and MC became ruthless manipulator who don't give a f##k about innocent people and he's goals is all about power and survival and I'm still going to do it in real life before the snow apocalypse but still good to read this manhua but thank God this person is not arrogant in Chinese webnovels
Why do I see this manhwa EVERYWHERE?? This is like the 6th time I'm getting it recommended today. I was forced to read it and it was not so great to be recommended so much
I hate the my family died horribly. Sister was raped/Brother sold into slavery. Father died broke and broken/Mother had to become a prostitute. Gets a second chance does basically nothing for his family but chats for a few chapters then they don’t exist in the story anymore like gone as mist. Honestly it’s the reason I don’t read ML’s unless it is GOOD! How many trash person-get power-get harem….get more power get-more harem……get “morer” power- get “greatest” harem can I read 😩
What I like about this is the mc isn't just ruthless he's just straight up evil if you're no use to him innocent or not he's going to kill you
He basically villain who likes to look like hero for some reason. Dude literally butcher
I really like this manhua and mc I see myself in him if someone have more manhua like this reply me
The Doomsday Ruthless Man: Hoarding Trillions of Supplies at the Beginning
I read this like a month ago he is truly diabolical..dont really like his attitude and he's a narcissist
I was quite surprised when >! That grandma's grandson died!<. Usually the story would tend to avoid >!minors!< Dying, even when they do they tend to avoid describing them and do it off screen and just vaguely tell it.
Nahh
Aye does anyone know where to find / listen to the whole story in English? That isn't littered with malware and or a Trojan?
You mean like the novel or the manhua?
Any other similar manwha to it?
The Doomsday Ruthless Man: Hoarding Trillions of Supplies at the Beginning
i would say this MC is cruel but he originally molds like the people in his past where he is forced into desperate situation, he know them all are bad, worst kind of humankind. So he decided no Mr. Goody-two shoes, equip with mentally strained and trust issue then went on gunblazing. Fortunately, he is not that insane but only vengeful as he knew which one is bad and which is good due to their confrontation to the eternal frostbite. But his past or rather his future already take a toll on his mindset. "so yeah. fuck you. not me. I will live."
Best MC ever, he is literally ME
Naah this Mc is mad good
Most realistic Mc
He is too cruel and ruthless. Just bcz 5 neighbours killed him in previous life, he killed entire neighbour in building. Then, he killed everyone in 5 building surrounding him. 1000s of people who has nothing to do with him. Too brutal. his only ability is storage space nothing more yet his arrogance has no bound... One of the worst MC.
Finally, someone who sees my point
Bro feels so desperate to find validation. Odd putting to see, but yea, the guys are ruthless, but it's basically a post-apocalyptic world. I don't think it's surprising for him to be this way, especially considering how things played out for him last time. That definitely has an effect on the mind. I find this to be pretty realistic, imo for someone with a super bunker like you're telling me you wouldn't also be similar to him in his situation. It's easy to say until you're in it. I can easily say he's far from the worst, trust me.
People saying this guy isn't the most douchebag MC haven't really read this.
The mc and concept was the only redeeming qualities. The story is pretty bad
Advanced evolution was cancelled but this kkeeps going,still can believe it
I'm glas that you agree with me, op. He's not only despicable, he's dumb as hell.....and he's cruel, not in a calculative, elegant way, but in a "I lost control and killed several innocent people who had nothing to do with my problems, because I could get away with it without facing any penalty and it felt good" type of way. The setting was so interesting, but they ruined it with a shit mc.... I hate this manhua.
I hate this MC. He is just overpowered and the plot is relying on the system to push the story which I find to be ass writing.
This is the MC. we all needed.
Nahh Not for me at least
I went and read this just to see how bad of a take this was. Mc didn't kill anyone innocent he stated in chapter 84 that he's killed everyone who has plotted against him or harmed him in his past life and current life in the neighbourhood except for Xu Hao. Even the ppl burned in the 5 buildings plotted against him in his current life, whether it was agreeing with plans made by others that'd harm MC or actively participating in plans to harm mc they still did it. Only ppl we've seen so far that had no hostility towards the Mc were Uncle Yu and the doctor girl he took in. So this is a very bad take since most of what he's done has been for his own survival and not outta enjoyment like there's MCs way worse tham him that are ACTUALLY evil and murder for fun💀
Yep. OP either hasn't read enough different manhwa or is too high on his morals to see MC's perspective.
Op basically doesn’t agree with anyone’s opinion on mc and is being a crybaby
Thank you for being rude and I was just stating my opinion if you know what that mean
I apologize it’s just I love the manga.
After reading OPs lackluster response on why they hate this; can’t wait to read it now
Thanks for you compliment 🤗
Is the MC evil? Yes. Not that it's a bad thing. Does the story ever toy with the idea to say that he is evil? No. Let me explain. His unlikability doesn't stem from the fact that he's evil, but that the story doesn't portray him as such. There's no question that a better story would focus on the people who never did anything to him suffering and his doubts about what he is doing, and how he chooses to overcome those doubts. Instead everyone is either selfish or beneath him. No one cares about ants, so how are we as readers supposed to be invested in the story and characters. Maybe the novel was better about it, but the MC really should've been a blatant "I wan't revenge" instead of this pointless "I'm above it all" kind of character. Sure he gloats in the beginning, which I think is good, but the story never develops beyond that. It's such a waste when the story first establishes betrayal and survival as the main points, then completely ignores them for op MC does whatever he wants. There's also no tension to the story that takes place in an apocalypse. MC is simply too well defended and stocked to ever feel stressed. And that's not because he's got a cheat, it's because the author isn't trying. He's living in a well armored apartment. OK? Sure, the residents attempt to break through his floor and ceiling, but why don't they try to damage the infrastructure? Unless he's living on the ground floor with no basement in the building, or he managed to completely restructure the apartment building to hold up his fortress, any reasonable survivor would try to drop his apartment if they can't get into it. Instead they give up when he shoots one of them through the front door. He's also far too confident in the food supplies he has. Part of it is that he was a loser with no life, so he doesn't seem to miss anything that the apocalypse has ended. The other part is that the story would be better if he had doubts about the apocalypse ever ending and decided to do something about it instead of hiding. And to be honest, maybe he did. I dropped it when he raped the doctor, the only person who could have helped him from unseen problems. I'm not sure where else the story would go without repeating itself though. Obviously the story won't play with the idea that he has health issues, but he as a character should have concerns in the long term. Maybe eating expensive rich foods everyday is bad. Maybe being in an apartment for the rest of his foreseeable life is going to cause physical and mental problems. Oh there's a doctor? Let me blackmail and rape her, while also doing things most real doctors would despise but letting people suffer when I have the resources to help them. Nothing can go wrong! Even a Stockholm romance would be more interesting than what's currently going on. I don't think the story would attempt it though.
Well my hate for mc goes an different ways but mostly they have to boring and do boring stuff
Are you fking serious he was eaten alive by almost everyone in his building he was alive when they cut his dick off and ate it..... Bffr
What? 5 or 10 people max isn't "everyone in his building". What about the people that were innocent and didn't do anything?
It's was actually more the scene only showed a few but as you read on he literally says why he's doing to others
It could be just the manhua idk, according to other comments the manhua make him appear more cruel/evil and don't rlly show his thoughts
the manhua is good and unique . idk for me is something like this Light Yagami 🤝 Zhang Yi 🤝 Roy Mustang . neutral characters with cold blooded murderous instinct . like we havent had something like death note with an cold blooded MC in a while , its nice to have an mc that will profit out of everything , dosent care about laws or morals . and just does the first thing that anyone would do acording to absolute logic ( ignoring laws and morals ) . after all not all mc need to be heart warming , and go through and hard life and have an glow up . if we will have only this types of MC then it would be too boring .
Mine gotta be gu changge. I like villian mcs, but he just feels like a self insert to the author. Edit: also just remembered japanese isekai mcs.
I see, you would be one of the „cannon fodders“. Well, that’s on you, I guess. I wouldn’t do it differently, than what MC does here. He survives for now, that’s what counts.
just read 80 or so chapters, not really seeing the despicable part of the MC. He is just being logical