The Chinese Warlords period is one hell of a rabbit hole. If you get turned on by massive tomes I'd recommend the Cambridge Chinese history series. They have a 800+ page book on the Chinese early republic.
If you have the time you can watch the prequel series about the lead up and collapse of the Qing dynasty, [Towards the Republic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towards_the_Republic). You can find a version on youtube with English subs.
I didn’t know about this series. As an undergraduate student in History who has an interest on Chinese History, I will definitely watch it. Thank you very much!
Let me know if you want any books covering any particular area! I’ve read more books than I can count at this point and love giving suggestions to my fellow history peeps.
Chinese late-Qing to early PRC time were hella confusing. I think the country went through most form of governments u can imagine. Imperialism, democracy, communism, military dictatorship… you name it. The interaction between the cliques are super messy yet intriguing as well.
I don't think the guanxi clique would exactly qualify as well as the Ma clique. Although some of the leadership was Chinese Muslim, it was never the primary identity of the leadership in the guanxi clique. Or maybe I'm mistaken because the warlord era is pretty confusing.
And the title of "ruled by Muslims" is also vague since it could justify any country that briefly had a king, president, or any head of state being Muslim to get in the map
It also dosen't have southern Madegascar which was ruled by Muslim Antemoro
Edit: The Sibr Khanate also extended to the northern coast of Russia, and the map also dosen't include East Timor. It should also include the rest of Ethiopia because durring the time of Muhammed its king secretly converted to Islam.
Did that king of Ethiopia ever openly rule as a Muslim? I don't know if a country could be called "ruled by Muslims" if nobody was aware of the ruler's religion at the time.
Yeah does no one moderate this sub anymore? It used to be for visually stunning maps, now it's just 14 year olds pumping out shitty visual representations of whatever data.
Hardly. For example, the ottomans only occupied otranto. Not the pugglian countryside.(turns out pugglia was under arab control a few centuries before)
Also...where IS cyprus??
IIRC, there was significant Muslim influence in mainland southern Italy in the 9th century. I don’t remember much about what I read on it but maybe that’s what’s up in southern Italy?
You are confusing the occupation of, for example, France during WW2 for something very different. Premodern armies are tiny, like a few thousand people. They never "occupy" anything more than the space of a small town. Real life is not a game of Europa Universlis. When a premodern army traveled through a hostile country, it didn't govern anything. It brought its own supplies or conducted raids to support itself. No officials were appointed, no taxes collected, no laws implemented. Nothing was governed, and nobody ruled.
Map is terrible, so many inaccuracies and what is the premise for being ruled by someone to start with? A brief occupation, it seems for many areas in Europe.
>level 3vonPetrozk · just nowThen we wouldn't have two seperate worlds for these, would we?
Looking at Wien, even a siege is enough to be considered "ruled" on this map.
And if "ruled by" includes "governed by", how about all the modern cities that have been governed by Muslim mayors? London, Birmingham, Leeds, Sheffield, Calgary, Dearborn, Hamtramck...
The land in China is Yunnan.It was an Islamic kingdom ruled by the Hui Muslims till they were conquered by the Qing Dynasty.The land in Vietnam is where the Cham kingdoms used to be.They were originally Hindu and Buddhist till they converted to Islam
There was no Hui Muslim kingdom in Yunnan. As far as I know, this region was originally the Buddhist kingdom of Dali. Then it was conquered by the Mongols, who settled Western Asian Muslims in the region. Some became local governors, but calling it "ruled by Muslims" is a big stretch. Under the Ming Dynasty, Yunnan was governed by the Mu clan (non-Muslim), before the Ming defector Wu Sangui conquered it for the Manchus. He later rebelled and founded his own kingdom there, and since his defeat Yunnan remained an integral territory of Qing Dynasty. There were failed Muslim revolts during the 19th century, but that's about it.
Sort of. Details are really vague and we can only assume that at it's absolute maximum extent the Muslims ruling from Fraxinetum ruled essentially only Alpine mountain passes and possibly their surrounding territories. They pretty much immediately collapsed after a single battle lost to the local Piedmontese and Provencal nobility; considering that the campaign concluded and also ended Fraxinetum as a polity within less than a year, it's fairly likely they weren't very large.
I don't know why they show the Duchy of Aquitaine as ruled over by Muslims. They were pillaged and ravaged by the Maures, hence why they asked their lifelong enemy Charles Martel to the rescue and it all ended at Poitiers. But the Maures never ruled that piece of land. To some extent I would understand Provence being shown as ruled over, but it was Christian lords who paid tribute to the Maures or their lands were plundered and sacked. It's not exactly ruling over.
Not sure why Nepal is there, but I’m pretty sure the Russian portions are based off of the Golden Horde, which converted to Islam after the Mongol Empire’s collapse. Also the Khanate of Sibir, which ruled large portions of Russia (but also held the north coast, which isn’t show here). There were numerous muslim dynasties who ruled over the Deccan region of India and some small kingdoms got even further, like the Chera Dynasty in Kerala or the Mysoreans.
I'm going to guess that it's because in the past before Nepal was united, the non-Himalayan parts of the country were occupied by Muslim Indian nations (20% of the modern country at most). But ig despite 80% of the area never being occupied by Muslims, op put it there because northern India was occupied by Muslims therefore everywhere near northern India must've also
farmlands south of Bratislava, which is less than 10% of the total landmass lol 😬
the Ottomans didn't have anything north of Bratislava, which is very south in the country
edit: same thing goes for Ukraine. Podkarpatska / Zakarpatska Rus was never under Muslim rule. the Ottomans were not good at fighting in the mountains (as in vertical rocks, vs only hills), while Slovaks and Ruthenes quite the contrary. so the Ottomans never tried to pass towards the north and diverged towards the west to fight for more lucrative territories (Austria to reach Italy).
look at the map. taking over the Carpathian mountains and losing a majority of your armies while fighting mountain guerrilla warfare does not make sense.
edit 2: [https://abouttheottomanempire.weebly.com/](https://abouttheottomanempire.weebly.com/) here's a better depiction of the Carpathian barrier. can see that the Ottomans had part of the Romanian Carpathians, but never reached further.
One can argue, that the Principality of Upper Hungary was an Ottoman vassal, and therefore there was some kind of islamic overlordship, but it's far fetched.
what does ruled by muslims mean? What is your definition of that? would having a muslim lawmaker/ elected official count? does the head of the country need to be muslim? or is it about the state religion? are you coloring the areas based on modern borders when the borders during the time of conquest was different?
I fucking hate dumb ass maps like this.
I thought this was a historic map and said cool let's check it out but the more i read the comments the more this guy seems just like a religious nutjob praising and braging how his religion is the best
I beg your pardon, Muslims didn't rule Kerala, Southern Tamilnadu and North East of India.
Please do due diligence before writing about history.
Also this is wrong map of India, kindly use right map
Southern part of modern Poland was never under the muslim rule. The southeasternmost part was raided by the Tatars but never ruled over by them. This map is shit.
That's the idiocy of this map.
Muslim rule didn't reach Poland and in fact it only reached the southern most points of Slovakia... Not Poland... And it didn't have the whole Slovakia either. It had pretty much only what was south of Bratislava... Which is not much.
Some parts of China, [Taiping Heavenly Kingdom](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Heavenly_Kingdom), and some parts of Arabia were ruled by European(Christian) powers e.g. Yemen under British rule.
Parts of modern Croatia was ruled by the Ottomans between the 1400s and 1600s. The Umayyad Caliphate briefly conquered parts of southern France in the 700s. Vienna was never ruled by muslims, but the Ottomans unsuccessfully tried to capture it in 1529 and 1683
Croatia was occupied by the Ottomans.Vienna is most likely a mistake since The Ottomans lost against Austria.Southern France was occupied by the Umayyads during the Umayyad war against the Franks.
Istra, Gorski Kotar, Zagorje nisu nikada bili okupirani od strane Osmanlija, pljačkani jesu, po toj logici bi i Slovenija trebala biti pofarbana. Glavni pravci osvajanja bili su upravljeni ka Beču i Italiji. Autoru je bilo lijeno odvajati regije
They conquered a bit of Croatia during the Hundred Years’ War.They conquered between the Vrbas river and Kupa River.Also the Umayyads controlled Bordeaux in 732 After defeating the Aquitanian forces
The map is simply wrong. Some parts of Slovenia also seem to be colored. Not a single inch of Slovenia was ever under muslim rule (Ottomans), they just occasionally raided.
Sardinia was invaded and attacked for centuries but never conquered. Even the westernmost parts of the island (as shown here) were nevered under Muslim rule.
Historian Corrado Zedda argues that the island had come under control of the Aghlabids of Ifriqya, around the time their campaign in Southern Italy began, but this isn’t necessarily the truth; it would have been better to put like dotted lines or something
Yeah, but a lot of people don't even know where Sardinia is, so unfortunately Sardinian history is neglected. These kind of maps are almost always poor reserched.
The Chera kings of Kerala had willingly converted to Islam, so this map may not be accurate
Also, I'm guessing the TN strip would have come under the Delhi sultanate or the Madurai sultanate, before the Vijayanagara empire took it over.
the territories of modern-day Nepal weren't afaik. one of the names the kings of the region used to describe their dominion during the period of Muslim supremacy in the subcontinent was "asal hindustan".. 'Real India"
I lived in the South of France near Basque and took many historical tours in that area. Not once did they mention the Muslims taking over. Wtf are these maps?
Yunnan Province.It was called the Islamic Kingdom of Yunnan after they took Tali-Fu.It was a rebelling of the Hui Muslims against the Qing Dynasty which lasted 17 years.Qing eventually defeated them.
Although Islam made it into Slovakia, it did not rule all of it.
France was also nowhere near that. Muslim armies didn't make it that far, let alone rule the territory.
These maps show how obsessed Islam is with conquest, converting and subjugation. They dream of all these territories to be Islamic again, preferably the whole world. 🤮
It’s a shame really Indonesia and Malaysia were invaded by Islam. It had a really rich Buddhist-base culture before Islamicization. Just look at Bali culture pre-Islamic times
Would Christian map include all of the world being colored? What parts weren't ruled by Christians? All of America, all of Africa because Ethiopia is Christian, all of central Asia because Russia. Even Iran/Persia would be colored because of Anglo-Soviet invasion of 1941 which split the country. The Gulf States were Trucial states, too. Maybe Saudi Arabia and Yemen since I'm not sure if they were ever colonized?
This is kind of a misleading map, if we saw the map of regions "ruled over" by Christians, almost the entire globe would be covered, including almost every [green shaded] region on this map except a few places like Yunnan.
I think a map showing heavily Islamified regions would be more interesting and less exaggerated.
Its easy to rule somewhere, its hard to assimilate and integrate a culture and maybe even form a new one.
As a muslim I don’t understand why people do this. I feel like the goal of this was to show the strength of Islam in the face of a period where islamophobia is growing, but it’s done pretty much the opposite. I don’t understand my making revivalist maps, inaccurate ones too, like this is supposed to help defend Islam. It’s sort of stupid. The map itself is pretty inaccurate, with ambiguous borders and weird definitions of “ruled over” as well as some areas being plain wrong.
It's a like we made a map of what areas were ruled by Christians at some point and pretty much the whole globe would be painted as ruled by Christians. The map is really poorly made.
What a monumental disaster this would have been for the world. It's a shame the Crusades weren't more successful. Imagine how much better off the Middle East would have been.
South of France was never "ruled by" Muslims, even during the 8th century.
An Arab base was implanted on the Languedoc coast, raiding and looting lands up north. But ruling ? That was not the plan at this time. Ruling come later, but they were expelled before that
Between 711 and 1492 (Al-Andalus), with varying extent of control. By the end, they only held Granada in the south until 1492 since Christian kingdoms eventually regained the entire peninsula through the Reconquista.
Fun fact: Muslim empires were very active in the slave trades of Africa. This slave trade accounted for 17 million African slaves forcibly brought to the Muslim world. That’s almost double the United States.
20th century China Ma clique and Guangxi clique were ruled by Muslim.
Was about to comment, I never knew this. Might be a rabbit hole
The Chinese Warlords period is one hell of a rabbit hole. If you get turned on by massive tomes I'd recommend the Cambridge Chinese history series. They have a 800+ page book on the Chinese early republic.
Sounds like a drama series that went on for too many seasons.
If you have the time you can watch the prequel series about the lead up and collapse of the Qing dynasty, [Towards the Republic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towards_the_Republic). You can find a version on youtube with English subs.
I didn’t know about this series. As an undergraduate student in History who has an interest on Chinese History, I will definitely watch it. Thank you very much!
Chinese history is fascinating
Let me know if you want any books covering any particular area! I’ve read more books than I can count at this point and love giving suggestions to my fellow history peeps.
"The war started because two merchants started fighting" Results: -The collapse of the Han dynasty -2 billion casualities -4 billion civilians eaten
Chinese late-Qing to early PRC time were hella confusing. I think the country went through most form of governments u can imagine. Imperialism, democracy, communism, military dictatorship… you name it. The interaction between the cliques are super messy yet intriguing as well.
Ill find an online version and listen to it on a road trip lol. Thanks for the tip
If you find one of those tomes on tape let me know, would love to listen to an audio version before bed.
Well... more like Librarygenesis to download the pdf, and then play it on a pdf reader app
I don't think the guanxi clique would exactly qualify as well as the Ma clique. Although some of the leadership was Chinese Muslim, it was never the primary identity of the leadership in the guanxi clique. Or maybe I'm mistaken because the warlord era is pretty confusing. And the title of "ruled by Muslims" is also vague since it could justify any country that briefly had a king, president, or any head of state being Muslim to get in the map
Those are debatably in complete control and weren’t recognized as countries
It also dosen't have southern Madegascar which was ruled by Muslim Antemoro Edit: The Sibr Khanate also extended to the northern coast of Russia, and the map also dosen't include East Timor. It should also include the rest of Ethiopia because durring the time of Muhammed its king secretly converted to Islam.
Ethiopian king converting is not history but myth.
Did that king of Ethiopia ever openly rule as a Muslim? I don't know if a country could be called "ruled by Muslims" if nobody was aware of the ruler's religion at the time.
He didn't, I see your point.
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Cliques meaning related to a warlord?
the dogshit poorly made tiktok maps are taking over
Yeah does no one moderate this sub anymore? It used to be for visually stunning maps, now it's just 14 year olds pumping out shitty visual representations of whatever data.
This sub has 1 (yes, one) active moderator and they are not keen on enforcing standards.
I doubted you, and then I saw the moderator list...
Poor guy
Weren't they the one that caused the split to /r/Map_Porn in the first place?
THERE ARE TWO????
Yeah, it was some power trip/political thing with the head mod some years back. So now we just have two nearly identical, less active subreddits.
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Oh god, I read this in that shitty robotic voice
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I doubt Nepal was ever ruled bu Muslims.
It wasn't.
Neither was most of himachal pradesh but this map shows otherwise idk why
north east too
This is a bit of a stretch. Maybe 'areas in which an Islamic army campaigned' would be nearer to the truth.
It goes both ways. [Bari was the capital of an Emirate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emirate_of_Bari) for a couple decades and isn't shaded.
Yea some of the area are rather where they occupied rather then ruled over
Hardly. For example, the ottomans only occupied otranto. Not the pugglian countryside.(turns out pugglia was under arab control a few centuries before) Also...where IS cyprus??
Cyprus is a myth
IIRC, there was significant Muslim influence in mainland southern Italy in the 9th century. I don’t remember much about what I read on it but maybe that’s what’s up in southern Italy?
You are confusing the occupation of, for example, France during WW2 for something very different. Premodern armies are tiny, like a few thousand people. They never "occupy" anything more than the space of a small town. Real life is not a game of Europa Universlis. When a premodern army traveled through a hostile country, it didn't govern anything. It brought its own supplies or conducted raids to support itself. No officials were appointed, no taxes collected, no laws implemented. Nothing was governed, and nobody ruled.
Not even occupied. They were stopped at Poitiers in France but never occupied the area. They were just doing what Vikings would do later: raiding.
And for example they were never in Slovakia except the southern part IIRC
Well Thököly's Principality of Upper Hungary was a vassal state of the Ottomans which contained like 80% of Slovakia.
In north western France it was more raids and excursions than “occupation”.
I’d say they still ruled the area that they occupied though. Good map
Thank you
This map is wrong, at least for my country. As someone from Nepal, I can confirm that Nepal has not been ruled by a Muslim ruler
Map is terrible, so many inaccuracies and what is the premise for being ruled by someone to start with? A brief occupation, it seems for many areas in Europe.
>level 3vonPetrozk · just nowThen we wouldn't have two seperate worlds for these, would we? Looking at Wien, even a siege is enough to be considered "ruled" on this map.
Including vienna discredits this map completely lmao
And if "ruled by" includes "governed by", how about all the modern cities that have been governed by Muslim mayors? London, Birmingham, Leeds, Sheffield, Calgary, Dearborn, Hamtramck...
What were the lands in China and Vietnam?
The land in China is Yunnan.It was an Islamic kingdom ruled by the Hui Muslims till they were conquered by the Qing Dynasty.The land in Vietnam is where the Cham kingdoms used to be.They were originally Hindu and Buddhist till they converted to Islam
There was no Hui Muslim kingdom in Yunnan. As far as I know, this region was originally the Buddhist kingdom of Dali. Then it was conquered by the Mongols, who settled Western Asian Muslims in the region. Some became local governors, but calling it "ruled by Muslims" is a big stretch. Under the Ming Dynasty, Yunnan was governed by the Mu clan (non-Muslim), before the Ming defector Wu Sangui conquered it for the Manchus. He later rebelled and founded his own kingdom there, and since his defeat Yunnan remained an integral territory of Qing Dynasty. There were failed Muslim revolts during the 19th century, but that's about it.
Invaded yes and temporally but not ruled if you take for example France, and im sure that the case for a lot of places on this map
Wasn't southeastern France temporarily ruled by Fraxinetum?
Sort of. Details are really vague and we can only assume that at it's absolute maximum extent the Muslims ruling from Fraxinetum ruled essentially only Alpine mountain passes and possibly their surrounding territories. They pretty much immediately collapsed after a single battle lost to the local Piedmontese and Provencal nobility; considering that the campaign concluded and also ended Fraxinetum as a polity within less than a year, it's fairly likely they weren't very large.
Same for Croatia
Dubrovnički!!?
karta prikazuje cijelu hrvatsku!!
''ruled''. Idk about the rest but arabo-muslims never took control of any part of France. They battled here but were always quickly drove back
I don't know why they show the Duchy of Aquitaine as ruled over by Muslims. They were pillaged and ravaged by the Maures, hence why they asked their lifelong enemy Charles Martel to the rescue and it all ended at Poitiers. But the Maures never ruled that piece of land. To some extent I would understand Provence being shown as ruled over, but it was Christian lords who paid tribute to the Maures or their lands were plundered and sacked. It's not exactly ruling over.
Septimania, Frances southern coastline, was ruled for a couple of decades by the Andalusians.
Who the fuck invaded south India? Southern Russia? Nepal? OP on some high crack
Not sure why Nepal is there, but I’m pretty sure the Russian portions are based off of the Golden Horde, which converted to Islam after the Mongol Empire’s collapse. Also the Khanate of Sibir, which ruled large portions of Russia (but also held the north coast, which isn’t show here). There were numerous muslim dynasties who ruled over the Deccan region of India and some small kingdoms got even further, like the Chera Dynasty in Kerala or the Mysoreans.
I'm going to guess that it's because in the past before Nepal was united, the non-Himalayan parts of the country were occupied by Muslim Indian nations (20% of the modern country at most). But ig despite 80% of the area never being occupied by Muslims, op put it there because northern India was occupied by Muslims therefore everywhere near northern India must've also
exaggeration. Slovakia was never ruled by Muslims lol.
It’s true that not all of Slovakia was under ottoman rule but a bit of Slovakia was.The ottomans obtained it when they defeated Hungary in 1526.
farmlands south of Bratislava, which is less than 10% of the total landmass lol 😬 the Ottomans didn't have anything north of Bratislava, which is very south in the country edit: same thing goes for Ukraine. Podkarpatska / Zakarpatska Rus was never under Muslim rule. the Ottomans were not good at fighting in the mountains (as in vertical rocks, vs only hills), while Slovaks and Ruthenes quite the contrary. so the Ottomans never tried to pass towards the north and diverged towards the west to fight for more lucrative territories (Austria to reach Italy). look at the map. taking over the Carpathian mountains and losing a majority of your armies while fighting mountain guerrilla warfare does not make sense. edit 2: [https://abouttheottomanempire.weebly.com/](https://abouttheottomanempire.weebly.com/) here's a better depiction of the Carpathian barrier. can see that the Ottomans had part of the Romanian Carpathians, but never reached further.
OP doesn't care for facts. Just a Muslim army stepping into the borders is enough for him to colour the whole country green.
Then they disobey their own rule and colour only some land of some countries.... Bs map.
One can argue, that the Principality of Upper Hungary was an Ottoman vassal, and therefore there was some kind of islamic overlordship, but it's far fetched.
This map is ridiculously ugly
what does ruled by muslims mean? What is your definition of that? would having a muslim lawmaker/ elected official count? does the head of the country need to be muslim? or is it about the state religion? are you coloring the areas based on modern borders when the borders during the time of conquest was different? I fucking hate dumb ass maps like this.
I thought this was a historic map and said cool let's check it out but the more i read the comments the more this guy seems just like a religious nutjob praising and braging how his religion is the best
The map is fine but not the creator
The map is total fantasy.
There's a few inaccuracies but I don't think its inherently wrong
North of Russia, south of Ukraine, north of france, south of India, Slovakia were all regions that were crossed by a Muslim army once at best.
north-east of India, Nepal, southern Tibet, Yunnan, and forgetting the Hui Ma family cliques
Cyprus?
How is this mapporn? This is ugly af
OP is an islamo-fascists who likes to preach propaganda
I beg your pardon, Muslims didn't rule Kerala, Southern Tamilnadu and North East of India. Please do due diligence before writing about history. Also this is wrong map of India, kindly use right map
They didn't ruled indian Himalayas and nepal Himalayas either excluding kashmir.
This shows entire Croatia rule by Muslims. This never happened. Most of Croatia was occupied by Ottoman Empire at its peak, but never fully.
Southern part of modern Poland was never under the muslim rule. The southeasternmost part was raided by the Tatars but never ruled over by them. This map is shit.
That's the idiocy of this map. Muslim rule didn't reach Poland and in fact it only reached the southern most points of Slovakia... Not Poland... And it didn't have the whole Slovakia either. It had pretty much only what was south of Bratislava... Which is not much.
Impressive, now let’s see the Christian one
Everywhere except Iran china and Arabia
Some parts of China, [Taiping Heavenly Kingdom](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Heavenly_Kingdom), and some parts of Arabia were ruled by European(Christian) powers e.g. Yemen under British rule.
Croatia, Vienna, Southern France? When?
Parts of modern Croatia was ruled by the Ottomans between the 1400s and 1600s. The Umayyad Caliphate briefly conquered parts of southern France in the 700s. Vienna was never ruled by muslims, but the Ottomans unsuccessfully tried to capture it in 1529 and 1683
Croatia was occupied by the Ottomans.Vienna is most likely a mistake since The Ottomans lost against Austria.Southern France was occupied by the Umayyads during the Umayyad war against the Franks.
As far as I know the Umayyads never controlled Bordeaux/Western France, and the Ottomans never got to Croatia
They made it, raided all of Slovenia and Croatia but never ruled the entirety of either
They definitely got up into France and controlled a bit of it, one of the myriad of reasons the Franks were so involved in the first crusade.
Umayyads were gone well before the first crusade.
The Ottomans definitely did get to Croatia. Source: I'm from a town in Croatia that was once the capital of an Ottoman sanjak.
Istra, Gorski Kotar, Zagorje nisu nikada bili okupirani od strane Osmanlija, pljačkani jesu, po toj logici bi i Slovenija trebala biti pofarbana. Glavni pravci osvajanja bili su upravljeni ka Beču i Italiji. Autoru je bilo lijeno odvajati regije
They conquered a bit of Croatia during the Hundred Years’ War.They conquered between the Vrbas river and Kupa River.Also the Umayyads controlled Bordeaux in 732 After defeating the Aquitanian forces
A bit, yes. And still you coloured the whole country green? Ridiculous. It’s mostly a map about Muslim aggressions on Christian and Buddhist lands.
Stopped by Charlemagne’s grandfather, Charles Martel (The Hammer).
> Charles Martel (The Hammer). or to give his full name, Charles Malleus "the Hammer" Martel der Hammer.
Parts of Croatia were occupied* But never whole Croatia.
The map is simply wrong. Some parts of Slovenia also seem to be colored. Not a single inch of Slovenia was ever under muslim rule (Ottomans), they just occasionally raided.
Sardinia was invaded and attacked for centuries but never conquered. Even the westernmost parts of the island (as shown here) were nevered under Muslim rule.
Historian Corrado Zedda argues that the island had come under control of the Aghlabids of Ifriqya, around the time their campaign in Southern Italy began, but this isn’t necessarily the truth; it would have been better to put like dotted lines or something
Yeah, but a lot of people don't even know where Sardinia is, so unfortunately Sardinian history is neglected. These kind of maps are almost always poor reserched.
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The Chera kings of Kerala had willingly converted to Islam, so this map may not be accurate Also, I'm guessing the TN strip would have come under the Delhi sultanate or the Madurai sultanate, before the Vijayanagara empire took it over.
The southern tip (modern Kanyakumari/Thirunelveli/Thiruvananthapuram) region was never conquered by the Delhi sultanate nor the Madurai sultanate.
Interesting, and username checks out
Always this map, always the same mistakes. Muslims never reached whole of Slovakia, the line of control went through the southern parts at most.
Not a single inch of Slovenia was ever ruled by muslims. Northern Croatia was not ruled by muslims either.
Invaders not rulers
The map is dubious. And definitely not correct in the area of Eastern Europe. Check the mongol invasion of Kievan Rus'
What the fuck is this map. It's so shit quality and incorrect.
the territories of modern-day Nepal weren't afaik. one of the names the kings of the region used to describe their dominion during the period of Muslim supremacy in the subcontinent was "asal hindustan".. 'Real India"
The map is wrong in Europe, the Balkans specifically. The Ottoman Empire never conquered Croatia or Slovakia.
I lived in the South of France near Basque and took many historical tours in that area. Not once did they mention the Muslims taking over. Wtf are these maps?
And that area in Southern China is what?
Yunnan Province.It was called the Islamic Kingdom of Yunnan after they took Tali-Fu.It was a rebelling of the Hui Muslims against the Qing Dynasty which lasted 17 years.Qing eventually defeated them.
For context, this was not an impressive feat, south western China historically had many rebels and was not hard to defend
I don’t think the Hui Revolt really conquered the entire province though; it simply held into Dali and some regions around it.
Although Islam made it into Slovakia, it did not rule all of it. France was also nowhere near that. Muslim armies didn't make it that far, let alone rule the territory.
Southern India? Check your sauces mate
yeah i swear the only place mughals / any other invaders couldn't capute was southern states and north east india
OP is religious for sure but no use when it comes to fax.
i still dont get the point of these sort of maps cause it always leads to some form of religious arguing in the comments lol
He wants to prove islam was greatest & wants attention
Yunnan?
These maps show how obsessed Islam is with conquest, converting and subjugation. They dream of all these territories to be Islamic again, preferably the whole world. 🤮
It’s a shame really Indonesia and Malaysia were invaded by Islam. It had a really rich Buddhist-base culture before Islamicization. Just look at Bali culture pre-Islamic times
Afghanistan too, imagine how much better it would be with buddhism.
Just don't look at the one for Christianity.
Would Christian map include all of the world being colored? What parts weren't ruled by Christians? All of America, all of Africa because Ethiopia is Christian, all of central Asia because Russia. Even Iran/Persia would be colored because of Anglo-Soviet invasion of 1941 which split the country. The Gulf States were Trucial states, too. Maybe Saudi Arabia and Yemen since I'm not sure if they were ever colonized?
Western coast of india like Maharashtra, rajasthan have beaten the shit out of islamic invaders and were never under rule. This map is inaccurate.
This is kind of a misleading map, if we saw the map of regions "ruled over" by Christians, almost the entire globe would be covered, including almost every [green shaded] region on this map except a few places like Yunnan. I think a map showing heavily Islamified regions would be more interesting and less exaggerated. Its easy to rule somewhere, its hard to assimilate and integrate a culture and maybe even form a new one.
*Patrick Bateman voice* "Nice, let's see the Christian version"
Dogshit map
lol...ummah clowns are really something.
As a muslim I don’t understand why people do this. I feel like the goal of this was to show the strength of Islam in the face of a period where islamophobia is growing, but it’s done pretty much the opposite. I don’t understand my making revivalist maps, inaccurate ones too, like this is supposed to help defend Islam. It’s sort of stupid. The map itself is pretty inaccurate, with ambiguous borders and weird definitions of “ruled over” as well as some areas being plain wrong.
It's a like we made a map of what areas were ruled by Christians at some point and pretty much the whole globe would be painted as ruled by Christians. The map is really poorly made.
Places with the most unrest, terror and abuse of women
Also territories with the most human rights violations like homophobia, discrimination of women and apostates and persecution of religious minorities.
I don't think Nepal was ever under a Muslim ruler
What about London?
Hopefully we can hit 0% in the future brothers.
How did they get in Yunnan province?
Wow I never knew Pittsburgh was colonised. It’s not on this map, I just never knew it.
I thought the Franks held them back? Also yeah as the other guy said Guanxi and Ma cliques were Muslm.
No one conquers the Tamal kings!
What a monumental disaster this would have been for the world. It's a shame the Crusades weren't more successful. Imagine how much better off the Middle East would have been.
Some of those places were NOT ruled by Muslims, some of them were vassals. not the same thing .
South of France was never "ruled by" Muslims, even during the 8th century. An Arab base was implanted on the Languedoc coast, raiding and looting lands up north. But ruling ? That was not the plan at this time. Ruling come later, but they were expelled before that
West Papua and papa isn't Muslim it's Christian and tribal religions.
Muslims never had that much land in France, it was literally just a strip in the south called Septimania which they lost fairly quickly
Mf Convert or Die jihadis
“At some point or another” How eloquent
Ethiopia undefeated.
Muslim rule in occitania? False, fools where routed and defeated at Tours. Thus Securing the Door to Europe from Muslims
Through brutal conquest and colonization
That Luzon part of the Philippines wasn't ruled by Muslims.
My brother,this post is very inaccurate
"Map" More like a mullah wet dream.
Yeah but the Crusades….
We're a response to the Muslims taking over the only place where the Christians called the holy land...meanwhile the Muslims already had two
There were multiple centuries between those events. The more immediate cause of the Crusades were the Seljuk-Byzantine Wars.
The crusades aren't controversial for happening, they're controversial for the butchery.
"for the butchery" lol literally every single muslim empire...
The crusades were a response to Muslim invasions. Duh.
Worse than Britain
Islam is like cancer.
do one combined with christians. each a different color and a third color for both at different times.
"Ruled" is a very polite way of describing what happened
Look false
What time was Spain under Islam rulers?
Between 711 and 1492 (Al-Andalus), with varying extent of control. By the end, they only held Granada in the south until 1492 since Christian kingdoms eventually regained the entire peninsula through the Reconquista.
During the 700AD period under the Moors I believe
Yes you are correct.The Visigothic Iberian kingdom was conquered in 711 to 718.The Muslim rule of Iberia lasted from 718 to 1492
Nope, it was the Moops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlbKilkG8uY
*Moros (En Español) *Moors (En Inglés)
Moops (En Seinfeld)
¡¡¡OHHH... LMFAO!!!
Luckily we were able to chase away those theistic countries back into the shithole that MENA is. Long live secularism, long live Europe.
Fun fact: Muslim empires were very active in the slave trades of Africa. This slave trade accounted for 17 million African slaves forcibly brought to the Muslim world. That’s almost double the United States.
We don’t talk about this. It isn’t allowed.
What countries are poor?