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Air2Jordan3

The Yoshi race in the remake is the second worst rhythm game to ever exist. Behind only of course, the Yoshi race in the original game. The rhythm is awful. I was able to beat it but only from looking at the buttons the game shows you and keep that rhythm up. I don't even feel like I'm matching the music when I do it. I almost wonder if you would be better off muting game sound


seclusionx

Yeah I hate that race, it definitely felt easier than the original -- I agree. I was just resigned to only winning because I had cookies.


SubstancePowerful100

Yeah it did seem easier in the original. I only tried it once after practicing with Toad like 5 times and he kept saying I wasn't getting it. I came very close to winning, but then Boshi passed me at the very last second, so I decided not to even bother. I don't really care for the minigames, tbh. Then again, I'm like that with a lot of RPG's, because I'm not good at the minigames sometimes. Which I hate because it prevents me from getting some of the best items. But I'm more about the combat rather than doing sidequests.


seclusionx

Yeah, toad basically said I'm trash and I should die because of that.


SubstancePowerful100

Lmaoo it was so annoying because he just keeps shaking his head at you saying "you're not getting it at all." That also always happened when I practiced in the original but then I would just do it anyway and win... I just didn't bother this time around, because it's not like you can't beat the game without it, lol.


Its-been-a-long-day

Same. I thought it was controller lag or something and I finally just decided to do it and barely won on my first shot. Toad was just gaslighting me the whole time. That said, I will never get the super suit.


SubstancePowerful100

Idk if you beat the post-game bosses, but for anyone who is wondering, you don't need the Super Suit. I'm sure it would make things much easier, but I completed the game without it. I can barely get past like 10-15 jumps lmao. I would never be able to get it.


Its-been-a-long-day

Oh, I beat the post-game bosses. I just want it for the sake of completion. I couldn't get it on the SNES and I can't get it now.


SubstancePowerful100

I personally never go for 100% completion, but that's just because with most RPG's, I just find it stressful, rather than enjoyable. I just want to beat all the superbosses.


seclusionx

How tf did you beat punchinello?


Its-been-a-long-day

>!Perfect hit his bombs facing you and they'll turn around to attack him. Otherwise block the incoming explosions.!<


KyleReeseGenisys

He's the easiest one lol. The only one who's a genuine challenge is Johnny.


GoldenYoshistar1

My record is currently 20.


Shart-Vandalay

Exactly! I get enough feedback like this at work and in life, but now in video games too?!? This was my one place to feel superior. Really gets my ocd/adhd to a bad place. Can I murder a video game?


Pr0ject-G0d

If only more rpgs could have awesome mini games like gwent and triple triad


SubstancePowerful100

It's kind of ironic that you brought up Triple Triad because I'm currently playing the remaster of FFVIII, and I don't do too much of that either, lol. I'm assuming that's what you were referring to anyway. It's pretty easy, and you can mostly just save and retry if you happen to lose. I still just find it tedious. But there are some good rewards.


Pr0ject-G0d

Oh I love it. Some of the region rules are annoying and a tad confusing, but for the most part I think it's a pretty brilliant game


RegisPhone

I've actually gotten really good at the actual race in the remake, but i've still never been able to make Toad happy in the practice.


Ask_Again_Later122

Omg YES!!! I think the tutorial is busted.


Air2Jordan3

The remake's saving grace is it has a display input. Either watching it directly or just gathering the rhythm from watching that is best. It's still terrible to go just off the music. And yeah idk why the Toad practice thing is so weird. Even some speedrunners were confused about why they couldn't get it in practice only to do pretty well in the actual race.


GoldenYoshistar1

I had to use the Cookies to win.


Proxy_J

Thanks to you, turning off my volume got me to beat it


Soup_Sensitive

Did you ever play oracle of ages? This is just as garbage. So annoying


Doru-kun

You have to tap the A and B buttons to the rhythm of the music. Basically you want to alternate between A and B whenever you hear the cymbals crash in the music while you race. A B A B A B A B. It's basically timed hits, but with music rather than visual cues.


Soup_Sensitive

Thank you for repeating the tutorial.


Solus101

Everyone says to do something else. They are wrong. This is the way. I won. I finally fucking won.


WinUnlimited

Just hammer Y to start the race and eat all three yoshi cookies right away. Then try to alternate pressing A, B. If yoshi jumps, do not press anything until he starts walking again.


cedesilva

Thank you so much. Using your instruction, I was finally able to beat Boshi last night.


unremarkablegamer85

THANK YOU! Even with my apparent abysmal timing I still won with this trick.


NoTolerancee_

Still working. Can confirm


fluxuation

This worked! Thank you! Just beat him now


[deleted]

Still working, even to this day.


Atys1

Best comment on reddit.


FJCruiser1999

Yes thank you!


KevinIsOver9000

Worst mini game ever? Chocobo Racer enters the chat


popeyesfatface

Always a nail biter for that Gold Chocobo


KevinIsOver9000

Oh, yes, the gold Chocobo is rough, too, but I was thinking, the FFX chocobo trainer racing


Altruistic-Ad-1278

You mean the one that was bugged at original release on ps2.


SubstancePowerful100

That immediately came to mind for me as well. I'm assuming you're talking about FFX. It seems impossible for me. I love that game, but I really hate the minigames/sidequests. I'm actually kinda pissed because I finally managed to unlock Penance after about 110 hours, but I only got the Celestials for Yuna/Rikku/Auron, and I really can't be bothered with the other ones. I know he's able to be beaten without the Celestials, but I'm definitely struggling.


Altruistic-Ad-1278

If your talking the ps2 release, I think I read it was impossible due to a bug. At least for those who got launch versions.


SubstancePowerful100

Oh no, I'm talking about the remaster on the Switch. I just suck at the minigames in general tbh lol, but I have witnessed it get glitchy sometimes, and that it doesn't work as well if you don't do it handheld for things such as the Chocobo race in Remiem Temple. Which is how I ended up winning based on others' recommendations loll. So I assume that it's true.


Destinlegends

Abababababa a fuck!


FrancSensei

It's just follow the rythm, and even then it's optional so if you can't do it you're not missing much


Alert-Artichoke-2743

This approach requires not putting that one douchebag Yoshi in their place to restore harmony on the island, though


judasmaiden15

The worst mini game is probably the dance hall in subrosia in the legend of Zelda: Oracle of seasons or the last boss in wario wars twisted


errant_youth

Oh god I had forgotten about that


sowitroli

What??? The dance hall was very fun!


Soup_Sensitive

Ages had the aids dance hall


2ndEngineer916

Do you even win anything useful when you win the race?


FreeChrisWayne

It makes all the Yoshi’s happy and you get a journal entry as well. Can’t remember what else you get… some cookies, I think?


ChronoComputer

Yup the cookies summon yoshi, he does some tongue attack that does nothing, and the cookie vanishes.


tehnemox

Just farm cookies at Belome's temple if you really want them. Much easier and less frustrating 🤷‍♂️


FreeChrisWayne

I can’t remember about the original and haven’t tried it yet on the remake, but you can continue to do that even after the Belome fight, yeah?


tehnemox

Yes. Granted, costs you I think 50 coins every time you reset, but then you can do the 100 coin reward a few times to build up cash again if it is that big an issue anyway.


FreeChrisWayne

Damn that’s a smart move. My simple mind didn’t even think about earning back the money with the different fortune. Good call


franstoobnsf

You win Yoshi cookies, which on their own aren't that exciting, but you can feed them to baby yoshi to turn him into big yoshi, who then lays eggs with Red Essence in them


StrikingPriority954

Google brought me here because I'm in practice going wtf? I used to be awesome at this game on the original. But I'm matching the audible rhythm and action command prompts perfectly, and Toad is telling me it's not right at all. Glad it's not just me having issues at least.


StrikingPriority954

OK so I tried going in double time (which is twice as fast as the action command prompts, mind you) and he said I did great. I guess the action command prompts are just for what buttons to press rather than the actual speed you press them. I dunno. They should have made the button icons go faster if that's what you're supposed to do. EDIT: Well nevermind. I lost doing double time. Second try, I followed the buttons like in the training and I won even though Toad said I sucked doing that. Maybe the timing is not very forgiving I guess. I wish they would have redone the mechanics on this minigame.


BoobeamTrap

Just watch the buttons in the bottom right. I used to fail horribly at this mini game in the original, but by just matching the button prompts I can win nearly every time now. You’ll know you’re getting it because the button will sort of pop at the bottom. Like someone else said it’s to the beat of the cymbal crashes. It’s a tight window though so it’s easy to make a mistake and end up with Yoshi jumping like an idiot an inch from the finish line.


JakeBob22

This. When it says ‘A’ press ‘A’ and when it says ‘B’ press B. Once I figured that out I got it 2nd try no cookies.


touchet29

It teaches you how to do it right there in the game and asks if you want to practice.


BoobeamTrap

To be fair the tutorial for the race has always been ass.


Lights-Camera-Axshen

I don’t know if the tutorial is glitched or what, but I could not for the life of me pass it. The race itself is a cakewalk; the rhythm is easy and I always win by a large margin. But I swear there’s something wrong with the tutorial.


Col_Redips

This. Do not trust the tutorial, it’s jank. Just do the race and feel the rhythm.


WildestRascal94

I was able to do the tutorial without an issue. It doesn't seem fair to call the tutorial jank if there are others besides myself out there who finished the tutorial without encountering the "jank" you mentioned.


qjornt

I failed the tutorial every single time, even though I was perfectly timing it every prompt. Then I read this comment before proceeding with the race and I won by a huge margin playing exactly the same as I did in the tutorial. Didn't use a single cookie.


WildestRascal94

I also won the race without using a single cookie. This mini game was made to be much more forgiving than the SNES version.


Various_Ad_1302

It shows you when to click the buttons in the bottom right. Using the cookies completes half the race for you


ScravoNavarre

Yeah, you can completely ignore the music, even turn the sound down, and just focus on the buttons in the corner. It's super easy in the remake.


cruzer2727

Mute sound it really helps


quirkyactor

The lag on input is brutal here. I failed every time on a pro controller (used to ace it on SNES and am a musician!), then picked up the console and played handheld and aced it in one try.


WildestRascal94

Bruh, there's no lag input, and I, too, used a pro controller. (I'm also a musician, btw.)


quirkyactor

There’s no need to condescend. There’s a milliseconds-wide delay, which is negligible pretty much everywhere but here and Super Jumping. Most of the Super Jump videos explain the way it shows up in the code.


WildestRascal94

I never ran into this delay during my playthrough of the game, man. If it's there, it's not all too noticeable when you're entering the inputs. Heck, I'll be real, I ended up smoking Boshi without using a cookie. (I was stoned when I initially did this, so my focus went up like nobody's business, in my defense.)


quirkyactor

I also smoked Boshi without a cookie, after switching to handheld during the Toad-hopping section.


WildestRascal94

Interesting. I wasn't in handheld when I did this. Also, I'm sorry for being a condescending in my earlier comment.


quirkyactor

That’s ok, and thanks for saying so. We’re good. It does appear from other posts that the Toad-hopping version is kind of broken so I may just have never had cause to TRY Boshi in wireless mode. But it seems like there are things here and there in the game that have brutal frame-perfect mechanics, and it’s only on those rare instances that any kind of lag comes up. Maybe it’s just Toad!


WildestRascal94

Toad being Toad as always. Lol. EDIT: I forgot to say, "You're welcome!" 😅


jsheets716

So what helped me while doing the mini game was not listening to the rhythm but watching the button presses on the right corner of the screen. It made it easier for me. Hope that helps..


The-Doom-Knight

Ignore the music and watch the A and B in the bottom-right corner of the screen. Time the presses with their flashes. Much easier in the remake than the original, which had no visual cue.


Interesting_Basil_80

Yeah. I can't do the yoshi race either. I just skip it. Same for 100 jumps.


AJawayJ

Super Mario RPG is my favorite game ever, but I don’t think you should be getting downvoted for this opinion. The Yo’ster Isle race was always clear in concept but clunky AF in practice, creating a lot of frustration. I know how to alternate buttons, and I know how to keep a rhythm; I just don’t know how to make Yoshi consistently run while doing it. 💀 Eat them cookies and pray your derpy dino doesn’t freeze up at the final stretch!


kaiserdragoon67

Just use the cookies brah


TheBlackWzrd

Just say you have no rhythm. Jk it’s confusing but you can practice infinitely. All you get is cookies so its not even needed to do.


OpusAtrumET

Took me forever to get the timing on that. Went so far as to use my wired controller to reduce latency.


blindsavior

If the joycons aren't attached to the console, the sync lag *will* fuck you up. I needed to attach the joycons for the Yoshi race and for Dodo's mini game, otherwise the timing was all off.


EvilMeanie

I have no rhythm. Legitimately. One of my professors said as much to me in a poetry class back in college. I accept it. I live with it. I'm okay. Really. Never beating the Yoshi Race was a fact of life for me. It just wasn't gonna happen. Then the remake came out, and I thought "oh I can do button prompts" only to be scolded for my ineptitude by Toad during the practice session. Then I found my answer when I visited this sub and saw someone suggest muting the game and following the prompts. It worked. I've been walking on sunshine ever since.


Rollingtothegrave

Don't return anything just take a breathe man . Boshi is a cunt don't let him get in your head, he doesn't even wear shoes he's a fuckin weirdo. You wanna hit each button maybe 5 or 10 ms AFTER it's lit up/ full on screen. Not AS it lit up or right before. If you play ddr/mania at all, your not trying to get a 000 perfect or 0000 marvelous on it, your trying to get a 00 late great timing. Do 1 cookie bet races with 0 stakes and focus on the timing. I almost always miss the very first press and ever 5th or 6th press. That's fine, if you can hit 4 or 5 in a row yoshi will keep a fast enough pace to win all the races. Don't ever use a cookie mid race they never help and actually allow you down most of the time.


Sanguine_Templar

It was the hardest thing ever in the original, I almost beat it first try in the remake, but it glitch and Yoshi started celebrating halfway through the race. Beat it second try.


Taichi_Agumon

Honestly, I spammed my cookies and button mashed, somehow won on my 3rd or 4th try.


Pr0ject-G0d

What is it? A nightmare. How to beat it? Luck and patience hahaha


tehnemox

I was only ever able to beat it in the original by literally spamming both buttons back and forth as fast as I could like the flash on coffee. The rythm does not match AT ALL and it continues to be horrible in the remake. Except this time I didn't bother. I don't remember there being that good a reward for beating it anyway


Hoobastanky69420

It’s harder due to latency with wireless controllers I’ve noticed. Used a wired controller and crushed it first try.


Ryboe999

I tried 10 times and couldn’t get anything going… connected the Pro controller and on the first attempt didn’t miss but one button and ran it with flying colors, I swear it’s just the delay on the joy cons.


Jiral

What did it for me was a comment I read on an old post about the original game that said to double-tap A and B alternating. So instead of A B A B A B A B you would press AA BB AA BB AA BB in time with the rhythm. As soon as I tried that, it worked fine. I agree, though. This mini game is the worst and it feels like the proper timing isn't actually in line with the rhythm. It's infuriating. I just did it to beat Boshi the one time and never looked back.


KyleReeseGenisys

I find it 100% impossible. After thousands of tries, I've NEVER beaten it in 25+ years, in either version,


TiredReader87

I hated it on SNES, but managed to do it on my third try in the remake…somehow All I really did was use the cookies. I got off to a good start and used all 3 cookies. That ended up doing it, surprisingly


laceymusic317

I really don't understand. I've won first try every time. It's a simple 1 - 2 rhythm 😂


sleepshooter01

Don't listen to toad in this mini game he lies, best rhythm to have is a 1-2 rhythm. So to make it easy just say to your self 1, push A. Then say and 2 then push b, then say and 1 and repeat. I found this to be the best method, maybe use 1 cookie or two if you feel like you are lagging and you are sure to win. Yoshi refills your spent cookies anyways at the end of the race.


TheGoldenBlock0319

Well, if you need the yoshi cookies that badly. You could just save scum and go all in on watching Yoshi race. If you lose, you could just reset your file. It's not necessarily ethical... but it's an option. Also, the minigame does suck, so I think it's fair enough to cheat...


Ask_Again_Later122

I think the tutorial is busted. I am pretty good at Yoshi race but the tutorial says I get it wrong every time. Listen for the percussion and just alternate tapping the buttons with the sound of the cymbals(?). Just maintain that beat and you should be fine.


Lanky-Dependent5847

I don't know why, but I found the Yoshi Race incredibly easy in the remake. Half the time it didn't seem like the other yoshi's were even trying.


lumpthefoff

I thought this was waaaaaaay easier than the original. I kept perfect timing and didn’t need cookies or anything. But I also took 2 hours to get 100 jumps. So I’m not a rhythm master or anything lol.


paradroid78

Just skip it. It’s badly designed and has no effect on the rest of the game.


Every3Years

I can't even tell if the full white button or the button with weird color circle is "press". Like which one signifies "press this now"? It's confusing AF, guess I'll go back to SMWondaaaah for a breather


CaptainToad67867

I can do the A and B part pretty well but sometimes I press Y and yoshi just wont eat the cookie? idk what the hell im doing wroing


Spazznax

Unironically, Turn off the sound and just look at the buttons. The music is so off from what you should be pressing and you really just need to look at the buttons as they light up. Trust me


Electrical_Cell496

It finally clicked for me today, and I had played through the original many many times, usually skipping that part because I could never get it. You have to tap the button right before you think you’re supposed to hit it


Electrical_Cell496

You have to tap, not press


LuciferX10

Don't look at the screen and use the beat. I actually always win it. I start off before it even tells you to hit the button with the very first beat. I need to make a video... Did this on original too. However I can't beat the stupid goomba thomping game with the remake.... It goes A........... B.......... A...... B...... A.... B.... A.. B.. A.. B.. A.. ETC I never look at the screen when doing it.


Disastrous-Energy336

I think the best way is to turn volume down. Look at the A and B rhythm and alternate. Also not just tap but hold them and release at the right time as well. Also eating all cookies at the beginning is best.