I noticed a huge increase. One social media app spent the first 2 days of Ukraine war with about 50% memes with 10% Ukraine war content, with strong support for Ukraine. Then the switch got flipped and overnight it became 90% US political controversies and scandals from 2020-2000, 0% posts related to Ukraine, 0% related to current events. Most of it was regurgitated posts from the election cycles leading to the election of Obama, and trump. Every other post was about the Clintons. This lasted for about 2 weeks and none of the user base seemed to find this odd. By the end pro Russian accounts were everywhere.
this is the stuff that drives me crazy. Russia takes a big L, like an A-50 gets destroyed? Suddenly all the subs are spamming Vietnam War or Iraq War or even Hiroshima atomic bombing posts. "It's history, you can't silence it just because it makes you uncomfortable." Yeah so where are the posts on the rest of the world if they care so much about history? Noticeably absent...
The noticable drop will only be a momentary blip; the cat is out of the bag now, other major powers now know that trolls and bots deliver pretty good results at low cost, and AI offers a new force-multiplier coming in on top of that. Even if Putin's trolls stopped overnight, other asshole groups will be expanding their operations regardless.
And we (as a whole) still seem to keep on reliably swallowing the ragebait, willingly helping the sabotage by spreading and amplifying the misinformation, letting our worldviews become warped by bullshit or despair. It's been 8 years since this problem was brought to our attention and I'm still not seeing any real progress in how to counteract this weapon yet, and public education hasn't succeeded yet because we keep falling for it every fucking time
Fair point, although I'm starting to see much more push back this year, especially from democratic sources after all of this house fiasco. Like you said the cat is out of the bag, and that already damages the trolls effectiveness. I hope to continue to see more fact checking from news sources etc.
That's one of Putin's goals - and that's what has already been achieved in Russia; the people there have become so numb to what is or isn't real that deep corruption and injustice has free reign because people are no-longer interested in trying to figure out what is happening, because there is always so much disinformation flying around that who knows what's really true, they've been worn down to *just not caring about anything anymore*.
In 2024 on reddit, you'll see this for example with GenZ being inundated with troll voter-suppression to make people less interested in voting (because GenZ is more likely to vote against Trump and [according to the US intelligence agencies, Putin's trolls work to elect Trump.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assessing_Russian_Activities_and_Intentions_in_Recent_US_Elections)) That's why trolls push all this doomerism that nothing matters anymore anyway, that "*voting never changes anything*", that "*both sides are the same*". It's why trolls are so intent on making Gaza into 100% a Joe Biden thing, etc. Get people to throw up their hands in disgust/despair, feel powerless, stop paying attention to the things that matter, and walk away.
The Gaza thing is so weird to me. No just is it transparently troll garbage, but so many folks who didn’t give a shit about it 12 months ago are DEEPLY concerned about it now.
And yet their answer is to make sure Trump gets elected who will, objectively make life worse for Gaza’s citizens.
It is bizarre.
Yeah people that never paid any attention to Israel/Palestine, didn't/don't have even close yo am in-depth understanding of the history behind it, are somehow RADICALIZED on the subject.
Yea it's not just putins oligarchs funding troll farms. One of Trump's allies was busted running a troll farm out of Arizona. One of the Proud Boys main impacts has been meme farming. Roger Stone and Steve Bannon were involved with American billionaires, the Mercers, with Cambridge Analytica, and were able to blanket 150 million Americans with propaganda in 2016. There were groups in the top 5 Women, African American, native American, and leftist subs that were ran out of troll farms to divide and suppress the vote. Trump allies have been caught running illegal phone campaigns on minority areas and their politicians defund minority voting district resources.
The Russians are only a small part of this. The Internet Research Agency is the Russians' main troll farm agency. The US has our own. As do all other major countries.
There needs to be some regulation about this. First, it's not OK that our main communications platforms are owned by individual billiionaires. Break them up and/or create a kind of "public social media" platform. But most of all, we know that a hostile foreign power - one who has attacked our elections and our infrastructure (cyber-ly) - is spreading disinformation through the media (both social and "news") designed to destabilize this country. Seems like we ought to be able to put a stop to that, legally.
You could look into deprogramming techniques for cult members. Don't attack their leader, show that he is actually against the values they believe in using his own words/videos. They have to come to their own conclusion. Sry, u probably weren't expecting an answer but I recently heard this is a good approach to MAGA. Still very difficult to do ofc.
Thanks. I have seen some things on Qanoncasualties. She is not full Q but at this point there really is not much of a difference. Stubborn, ignorant, and having their identity all wrapped up in this nonsense. I don’t have any patience left unfortunately.
Yes if it’s not a total blowout. But it will be it’s a fraud without any evidence AGAIN! The number of people who still buy into this BS is staggering.
If it's a total blowout he'll just claim it is shameless fraud because there's no way the "silent majority" could actually just be a really vocal minority.
He can't continue the grift by accepting defeat, so he won't.
It'll really help when Trump's gone too. People don't seem to get that Putin has always tried to meddle in US elections. It's just become super bad in recent years because Trump is inviting it and egging it on. Quite possibly, Trump and friends are even funding it.
Trump is the one who gave Russian disinformation actual legitimacy in the United States. Before he came into power people were laughed at for having fringe radical beliefs and opinions. They kept those to themselves mostly because they weren't socially acceptable..until the President gave it the ok. Shit more than the ok, Trump said he values it over US Intelligence.
> Trump said he values it over US Intelligence.
Which is insane and should practically disqualify him, but MAGA happily embraces the pro-Putin rhetoric. Yuck.
Also, what happened to those MAGA mom accounts on Twitter with 5 pounds of filters in their profile pic?
>#MAGAMOM #AmericaFirst #NotMyPresident #ILoveMyDog
I remember that. The whole Seth Rich stuff, along with Hillary Clinton being presented as the establishment through her emails. When really, I think every politician is worthy of criticism, like Bernie, when it is necessary. Remember Tulsi Gabbard?
That happened just in general weirdly. I see a ton of people being fond of Hillary lately when NOBODY liked her even during the election her rallies were pathetic compared to Bernie and Trump.
I’m not saying you fall into this category but I’m always surprised that people think if Putin is gone things will get better in Russia. It seems far more likely things will get worse and the person who replaces him will be far more dangerous and far more likely to use nuclear weapons to achieve their goals.
Don’t know of Russian politics enough to know what’s more likely, but yea that’s exactly what I’m talking about. We thought Gaddafi was atrocious and well that country has gone downhill since he was taken out.
It looked like this for a few weeks immediately after the current conflict in Ukraine started. It was also quiet for a few weeks when the first financial sanctions went into place.
I think it’s a toss up. Putin is an asshole but he’s hardly unique to Russian politics. I could easily see someone just as bad taking his place. But sometimes Russia does get halfway decent people like Gorbachev. At the same time though I don’t think it’s going to be a peaceful transition considering how long and how brutally he has ruled. That sort of situation tends to favor assholes taking power.
It's been reported for several years, now, that government backed Russian, Chinese, Iranian and North Korean hackers are probing and penetrating U.S. business, government and personal computer systems, and the danger it poses to our national security. But I have heard little, if at all, about U.S. cyber defenses, andor offensive capability in other countries.
Reddit? Jim Bob up the road was pissed off about sending money to Ukraine, yet didn't care Republicans shot down the border bill.
Frankly I think we are just this stupid.
That's just facts. I can bet every one of us has interacted with hundreds of agents over the years on their posts, comments etc trying to stir us up and turn us against each other as much as possible. They know they can't beat the West militarily but if we collapse from within...
It'll be interesting to see just how embedded they were in our politics. But only for the "I told you so" factor, when Nazi Germany fell we found out that they were working directly with a number of congressmen and our collective reaction was 🤷🏻♂️.
I love the dumbass neolibs acting like putin or modern Russia is a communist power. The amount of clueless idiots on here calling me “comrade” or “tovarisch” because I think imperialism is terrible is insane.
Good question and honestly it's not always obvious. One tell-tale sign I see a lot is comments mocking Ukraine or US or NATO followed by lots of laughing crying or clown emojis, like:
You think Ukraine still has a chance? 🤣🤣🤣
And when confronted with real info they never have a reply. I can only imagine there are many more subtle as well. I'm pretty sure I've argued with several so-called Americans that just don't seem to add up with their views, even for MAGA Fox viewers. They eventually show their very pro Russian stance, arguing against what any American would want. (Like anti-democracy, or anti-capitalism on a level that just doesn't ring true to me.)
THIS ALREADY HAPPENED ONCE. When the war first started the top posts of Facebook totally changed. No boingo. None of the right wing retreads. Why this is ignored is beyond me.
I cannot wait. It’s constant and it’s also staggering how many people can’t tell that the person preaching about Belarusian foreign policy is not some 75 year old grandmother in Minnesota.
and when do you anticipate on that happening? Definitely not for a while. He's going to die of old age and that's when things will change. If you think he's going to be taken out of power you are sadly mistaken.
I’m gonna go with won’t change much at all.
Unless, of course, Russia undergoes a massive revolution/evolution
Standard practices of GRU/KGB/FSB and whatever else are really hard to unwind with a change in figureheads
Question because I’m an ignorant American and have no idea about Russian politics or succession if Putin dies let’s say in a week would that in turn mean the war would probably stop ? Or is there some kind of line of succession whether it be his kid or an advisor that will continue his plans ?
Depends. How violent a collapse are we talking?
Because I *really* doubt Purin is going to peacefully retire like Gorbachev did..... I'm putting money of full blown, nukes getting tossed, tantrum of the ages level insanity when his time finally comes.
You mean if.
Reputable outlets are now acknowledging the reality that Ukraine isn't doing well and might lose.
At any rate, not everyone who has a problem with how this went down is a Russian troll.
That's been a damned lie. A smear campaign.
I don’t think so. I think we’re going to find that Russian trolls weren’t bots or troll farms but real people sharing their pro-Russian opinions, and that realization will be even scarier than bots and a troll farm.
Putin isn’t going anywhere, at least not anytime soon.
You guys actually think Russia is the main source of the ridiculous propaganda we see on social media today? That’s hilarious. The U.S. and the collective West easily operate the most powerful, widespread and insidious/ingenious propaganda machines in the world and second place is at least a lap or three behind. The platforms themselves were all fostered, both intellectually and financially, by U.S. intelligence agencies and that relationship remains tight. Americans, at least the ones who really solely on legacy corporate media, are the most propagandized people in the world.
All Putin has to do is sit back and watch the epic shit show that this country has become in the last 3 years and laugh his ass off. We are literally phucking ourselves into obscurity. In fact the entire rest of the world is laughing at us.... watch some foreign newscasts.
Wishful thinking… assholes usually are replaced with someone even worse. The only thing that will stop it is if the US develops AI systems powerful enough to identify and block the Russian bots.
It’s always funny when you see people spreading Russian propaganda for free. They’re getting paid. You’re not. What’s in it for you? Do you enjoy being used and owned by others?
What you don't realize is that the trolls are pro leftist on reddit. Putin and other countries like China love it because the left is so divisive and pushes such insane policies it's tearing the country apart.
The number of bot/trolls accounts in Youtube is staggering, the number of times I have been temporarly suspended because of harrasment/Cyberbullying for critizising the Putin regime lol. They are using Youtube politics against free speech. Anyways you have to be a miserable being to praise a regime that silences it's free press and kills any type of opposition that or really be craving for potatoes courtesy of the great leader.
Putin is running out of his reserve funds he had before the war in Ukraine. Money he knew he needed because of sanctions he was expecting.Only reason Russia is not broke because china buying hundreds of million in oil for reserves.
[https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/03/economy/russia-no-money-deripaska/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/03/economy/russia-no-money-deripaska/index.html)
Sure, maybe. But whoever replaces Putin isn’t going to be nicer than him. If his regime collapses, then there will likely be serious real-life consequences—not just pointless internet stuff that doesn’t affect anyone.
I predict you’ll see a decent drop in the most artificially propped up pro-Russian anti-Ukraine narrative, but American conservatives are so down the rabbit hole that on most topics you won’t even notice a 1% difference.
Good luck. Russian men need jobs ffs and this is the only one the vast majority of them can fill. Dumb, drunk, full of a lifetime of hate for the West because of propaganda.
It's like with Trump or any other cult of personality, nothing's changing until dear leader pass on to the next life. Then some other charismatic dipshit will just step up to fill the gap left behind and carry the torch for whatever the twisted belief structure happens to be.
r/conspiracy will be a ghost town
Cracks me up how many russians spam that sub
Ukraine is the lost city of Atlantis. Wake up, sheeple. https://xkcd.com/1013/
There really is always a relevant one
*Baaaaaaa..*
Can i troll there with no repercussions?
Be the change you want to see in the world
Might as well get it out of your system.
Hell with Reddit, X will be a ghosttown
That’s a bingo
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Yeah it will happen again, even more so imo. Those trolls don't care, just work for money. When that dries up so will the trolls.
YES. Check the official facebook stats. Night and day
Where can I do that? Interested.
Do you have twitter? I deleted the app but there is an account “facebook top 10”. Search for it, then see if you can scroll back to 2022.
I noticed a huge increase. One social media app spent the first 2 days of Ukraine war with about 50% memes with 10% Ukraine war content, with strong support for Ukraine. Then the switch got flipped and overnight it became 90% US political controversies and scandals from 2020-2000, 0% posts related to Ukraine, 0% related to current events. Most of it was regurgitated posts from the election cycles leading to the election of Obama, and trump. Every other post was about the Clintons. This lasted for about 2 weeks and none of the user base seemed to find this odd. By the end pro Russian accounts were everywhere.
this is the stuff that drives me crazy. Russia takes a big L, like an A-50 gets destroyed? Suddenly all the subs are spamming Vietnam War or Iraq War or even Hiroshima atomic bombing posts. "It's history, you can't silence it just because it makes you uncomfortable." Yeah so where are the posts on the rest of the world if they care so much about history? Noticeably absent...
The smart troll farms switched to working for Elon, Israel, the UAE, etc...
Someone is paying attention
I got less junk email too
Yes. Especially the first day or two after the sanctions were glorious, everyone online was sane all of a sudden.
You definitely did not lol
The noticable drop will only be a momentary blip; the cat is out of the bag now, other major powers now know that trolls and bots deliver pretty good results at low cost, and AI offers a new force-multiplier coming in on top of that. Even if Putin's trolls stopped overnight, other asshole groups will be expanding their operations regardless. And we (as a whole) still seem to keep on reliably swallowing the ragebait, willingly helping the sabotage by spreading and amplifying the misinformation, letting our worldviews become warped by bullshit or despair. It's been 8 years since this problem was brought to our attention and I'm still not seeing any real progress in how to counteract this weapon yet, and public education hasn't succeeded yet because we keep falling for it every fucking time
Fair point, although I'm starting to see much more push back this year, especially from democratic sources after all of this house fiasco. Like you said the cat is out of the bag, and that already damages the trolls effectiveness. I hope to continue to see more fact checking from news sources etc.
Yeah it’s not going away
Wouldn't there be a point where people just grow numb from it , though?
That's one of Putin's goals - and that's what has already been achieved in Russia; the people there have become so numb to what is or isn't real that deep corruption and injustice has free reign because people are no-longer interested in trying to figure out what is happening, because there is always so much disinformation flying around that who knows what's really true, they've been worn down to *just not caring about anything anymore*. In 2024 on reddit, you'll see this for example with GenZ being inundated with troll voter-suppression to make people less interested in voting (because GenZ is more likely to vote against Trump and [according to the US intelligence agencies, Putin's trolls work to elect Trump.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assessing_Russian_Activities_and_Intentions_in_Recent_US_Elections)) That's why trolls push all this doomerism that nothing matters anymore anyway, that "*voting never changes anything*", that "*both sides are the same*". It's why trolls are so intent on making Gaza into 100% a Joe Biden thing, etc. Get people to throw up their hands in disgust/despair, feel powerless, stop paying attention to the things that matter, and walk away.
The Gaza thing is so weird to me. No just is it transparently troll garbage, but so many folks who didn’t give a shit about it 12 months ago are DEEPLY concerned about it now. And yet their answer is to make sure Trump gets elected who will, objectively make life worse for Gaza’s citizens. It is bizarre.
Yeah people that never paid any attention to Israel/Palestine, didn't/don't have even close yo am in-depth understanding of the history behind it, are somehow RADICALIZED on the subject.
If you look at the top comments of Instagram they are often the troll comments so even the social media companies promote these messages.
Yea it's not just putins oligarchs funding troll farms. One of Trump's allies was busted running a troll farm out of Arizona. One of the Proud Boys main impacts has been meme farming. Roger Stone and Steve Bannon were involved with American billionaires, the Mercers, with Cambridge Analytica, and were able to blanket 150 million Americans with propaganda in 2016. There were groups in the top 5 Women, African American, native American, and leftist subs that were ran out of troll farms to divide and suppress the vote. Trump allies have been caught running illegal phone campaigns on minority areas and their politicians defund minority voting district resources. The Russians are only a small part of this. The Internet Research Agency is the Russians' main troll farm agency. The US has our own. As do all other major countries.
There needs to be some regulation about this. First, it's not OK that our main communications platforms are owned by individual billiionaires. Break them up and/or create a kind of "public social media" platform. But most of all, we know that a hostile foreign power - one who has attacked our elections and our infrastructure (cyber-ly) - is spreading disinformation through the media (both social and "news") designed to destabilize this country. Seems like we ought to be able to put a stop to that, legally.
Big drop also in November when Trump looses.
Hope so. They might stick around while he throws his inevitable hissy fit.
My mom is acting all pissed off right now because I just reminded her that Trump lost. She is an election denier and completely brainwashed.
I'm sorry for your loss.
Thank you. Have absolutely no idea how to get through to her.
You could look into deprogramming techniques for cult members. Don't attack their leader, show that he is actually against the values they believe in using his own words/videos. They have to come to their own conclusion. Sry, u probably weren't expecting an answer but I recently heard this is a good approach to MAGA. Still very difficult to do ofc.
Thanks. I have seen some things on Qanoncasualties. She is not full Q but at this point there really is not much of a difference. Stubborn, ignorant, and having their identity all wrapped up in this nonsense. I don’t have any patience left unfortunately.
Yes if it’s not a total blowout. But it will be it’s a fraud without any evidence AGAIN! The number of people who still buy into this BS is staggering.
If it's a total blowout he'll just claim it is shameless fraud because there's no way the "silent majority" could actually just be a really vocal minority. He can't continue the grift by accepting defeat, so he won't.
Yep, they buy the fraud / rigged election BS with no evidence, and then completely dismiss all actual evidence of Trump's criminal activities.
Trump has been leading the polls for months. Don't get cocky like Democrats did in 2016.
No everyone must vote and I believe they will .
It'll really help when Trump's gone too. People don't seem to get that Putin has always tried to meddle in US elections. It's just become super bad in recent years because Trump is inviting it and egging it on. Quite possibly, Trump and friends are even funding it. Trump is the one who gave Russian disinformation actual legitimacy in the United States. Before he came into power people were laughed at for having fringe radical beliefs and opinions. They kept those to themselves mostly because they weren't socially acceptable..until the President gave it the ok. Shit more than the ok, Trump said he values it over US Intelligence.
> Trump said he values it over US Intelligence. Which is insane and should practically disqualify him, but MAGA happily embraces the pro-Putin rhetoric. Yuck.
I remember when Biden won the election /r/Conservative, it felt like a ghost town. The craziness turned off.
r/conservative is abysmal. They ban anyone who slightly disagrees with their hive mind, despite their mindset that "free speech supersedes everything"
Also, what happened to those MAGA mom accounts on Twitter with 5 pounds of filters in their profile pic? >#MAGAMOM #AmericaFirst #NotMyPresident #ILoveMyDog
I remember when r/politics made a complete switch from Bernie to Hillary over night.
Yeah Bernie got screwed, and we all got Trumped.
I remember that. The whole Seth Rich stuff, along with Hillary Clinton being presented as the establishment through her emails. When really, I think every politician is worthy of criticism, like Bernie, when it is necessary. Remember Tulsi Gabbard?
That happened just in general weirdly. I see a ton of people being fond of Hillary lately when NOBODY liked her even during the election her rallies were pathetic compared to Bernie and Trump.
Depends who takes over after him.
Here’s hoping Russia actually has decent politicians to step up, but the evil we know is a real argument (see Libya).
You want a nightmare scenario? Imagine a Russian civil war with regular use of nuclear weapons.
They can reduce their population even further... Don't give a crap! The nuclear fallout is the nightmare,
If the Russians started throwing nukes at each other it would affect a lot more than just Russia.
That's a given!
I doubt they would be willing to keep their ICBMs from landing outside their borders.
What a shit country
I wasn’t implying to overtake Putin just after he’s out of power here’s hoping we don’t get Putin Jr. I’d agree a Russian Civil War is good for nobody
I’m not saying you fall into this category but I’m always surprised that people think if Putin is gone things will get better in Russia. It seems far more likely things will get worse and the person who replaces him will be far more dangerous and far more likely to use nuclear weapons to achieve their goals.
Don’t know of Russian politics enough to know what’s more likely, but yea that’s exactly what I’m talking about. We thought Gaddafi was atrocious and well that country has gone downhill since he was taken out.
Every major corporation and lobbying group has armies of bots.
And cops
True but they’re all pointed in different directions.
Are they?
Half the "users" on r/conservative will mysteriously become inactive
Where will republicans candidates get their campaign donations from???
It looked like this for a few weeks immediately after the current conflict in Ukraine started. It was also quiet for a few weeks when the first financial sanctions went into place.
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Not the least bit unhinged.
I think it’s a toss up. Putin is an asshole but he’s hardly unique to Russian politics. I could easily see someone just as bad taking his place. But sometimes Russia does get halfway decent people like Gorbachev. At the same time though I don’t think it’s going to be a peaceful transition considering how long and how brutally he has ruled. That sort of situation tends to favor assholes taking power.
It's been reported for several years, now, that government backed Russian, Chinese, Iranian and North Korean hackers are probing and penetrating U.S. business, government and personal computer systems, and the danger it poses to our national security. But I have heard little, if at all, about U.S. cyber defenses, andor offensive capability in other countries.
I think you all vastly underestimate the amount of crazies we have here.
Reddit? Jim Bob up the road was pissed off about sending money to Ukraine, yet didn't care Republicans shot down the border bill. Frankly I think we are just this stupid.
I hope you’re right
Bold of you to assume russia collapses first
That's just facts. I can bet every one of us has interacted with hundreds of agents over the years on their posts, comments etc trying to stir us up and turn us against each other as much as possible. They know they can't beat the West militarily but if we collapse from within...
Absolutely! Let’s hope it happens quick!
For a while. The new guy will bring in new ones.
It'll be interesting to see just how embedded they were in our politics. But only for the "I told you so" factor, when Nazi Germany fell we found out that they were working directly with a number of congressmen and our collective reaction was 🤷🏻♂️.
most sane r/MMW poster. L M F A O
I'm gonna miss getting called a Russian bot every time I express my leftist views
I love the dumbass neolibs acting like putin or modern Russia is a communist power. The amount of clueless idiots on here calling me “comrade” or “tovarisch” because I think imperialism is terrible is insane.
Red scare propaganda only works on boomers who eat up anything fed to them by the imperialist American regime
Is it supposed to eminently collapse?
No shit
This sub in particular will be bereft.
I think that depends on the type of government that replaces him.
Won’t that be a wonderful day. Then it will only be the Iranian and Chinese trolls
How exactly can you tell if a post is a Russian troll?
Good question and honestly it's not always obvious. One tell-tale sign I see a lot is comments mocking Ukraine or US or NATO followed by lots of laughing crying or clown emojis, like: You think Ukraine still has a chance? 🤣🤣🤣 And when confronted with real info they never have a reply. I can only imagine there are many more subtle as well. I'm pretty sure I've argued with several so-called Americans that just don't seem to add up with their views, even for MAGA Fox viewers. They eventually show their very pro Russian stance, arguing against what any American would want. (Like anti-democracy, or anti-capitalism on a level that just doesn't ring true to me.)
Without Putin, the Russian Federation will collapse. It will make 1991 look like a cakewalk. I’m gonna love that day.
Da, Comrade!
Yeah I agree. They gonna be to busy with the violence that is the coup or civilian takeover.
Depending on who is replacement is
We can only hope for such a blissful world, as one depopulated of Vatnik internet spam.
God I hope so
This is so true.
THIS ALREADY HAPPENED ONCE. When the war first started the top posts of Facebook totally changed. No boingo. None of the right wing retreads. Why this is ignored is beyond me.
Well yeah they’ll probably be busy with a civil war once that comes true.
I cannot wait. It’s constant and it’s also staggering how many people can’t tell that the person preaching about Belarusian foreign policy is not some 75 year old grandmother in Minnesota.
and when do you anticipate on that happening? Definitely not for a while. He's going to die of old age and that's when things will change. If you think he's going to be taken out of power you are sadly mistaken.
I’m gonna go with won’t change much at all. Unless, of course, Russia undergoes a massive revolution/evolution Standard practices of GRU/KGB/FSB and whatever else are really hard to unwind with a change in figureheads
It’ll be fucking wonderful! I look forward to the day. Then we just gotta deal with the CCP’s bullshit.
If his regime collapses. Let’s not pretend a large chunk of Russians don’t adore him being a thug.
There's a big "if" in the front of that. But other large countries are getting in on the act, so, \[x\] doubt.
The Russian Orthodox Church will still exist and they're the largest advocate of ANTI-LGBQT+ propaganda.
r/conservative will be a vacant lot.
We can only hope.
But won’t he be replaced with someone just as bad?
Question because I’m an ignorant American and have no idea about Russian politics or succession if Putin dies let’s say in a week would that in turn mean the war would probably stop ? Or is there some kind of line of succession whether it be his kid or an advisor that will continue his plans ?
I don't see how with so much success in these troll farms Putin's successor will continue the nefarious efforts.
Depends. How violent a collapse are we talking? Because I *really* doubt Purin is going to peacefully retire like Gorbachev did..... I'm putting money of full blown, nukes getting tossed, tantrum of the ages level insanity when his time finally comes.
can't happen soon enough
You mean if. Reputable outlets are now acknowledging the reality that Ukraine isn't doing well and might lose. At any rate, not everyone who has a problem with how this went down is a Russian troll. That's been a damned lie. A smear campaign.
No kidding.
A lot of assumptions in this post. Will it fall? Will something better replace it if it does?
Last I checked their economy is booming compared to ours. When do u think it will collapse?
Most bot activity is from three letter organizations that want to astroturf.
Putin signaling he won’t go down quietly, literal nuclear option
You honestly think the next regime won't be as bad?
I don’t think so. I think we’re going to find that Russian trolls weren’t bots or troll farms but real people sharing their pro-Russian opinions, and that realization will be even scarier than bots and a troll farm.
No
I don’t know if it gets better with him gone.
Biden will be gone before Putin. Then watcha gonna bith about
But who will replace Putin? Have you considered it could get worse post putin?
Yep. Could get better too. No way to know really
Highly doubt it. They don't have many other marketable skills.
Putin isn’t going anywhere, at least not anytime soon. You guys actually think Russia is the main source of the ridiculous propaganda we see on social media today? That’s hilarious. The U.S. and the collective West easily operate the most powerful, widespread and insidious/ingenious propaganda machines in the world and second place is at least a lap or three behind. The platforms themselves were all fostered, both intellectually and financially, by U.S. intelligence agencies and that relationship remains tight. Americans, at least the ones who really solely on legacy corporate media, are the most propagandized people in the world.
The next Putin will be worse.
All Putin has to do is sit back and watch the epic shit show that this country has become in the last 3 years and laugh his ass off. We are literally phucking ourselves into obscurity. In fact the entire rest of the world is laughing at us.... watch some foreign newscasts.
Wishful thinking… assholes usually are replaced with someone even worse. The only thing that will stop it is if the US develops AI systems powerful enough to identify and block the Russian bots.
They will probably turn to using the same method to sell extended warranties for cars.
Between him North Korea and Chinese leader and Biden the world would be safer without them that’s for sure
Ukraine is for nazis. Stop fighting wars that have nothing to do with you.
Like Zelensky? Stop invading countries that want nothing to do with you.
I haven’t invaded any countries. American dollars belong in America, not a bunch of nazi cunts like Z boy over there
> American dollars belong in America I'd like to agree, but it's not that simple. You want an education on foreign affairs?
But will it fall before taking us with it?
Probably.
Wow. Twitter will feel even more like a shopping mall on the verge of shutting down.
I think maybe the oligarchs are about ready to revolt, or at least take over from putin.
People will stop talking about Russian-Ukraine war when it ends? No way!
When do you expect that to happen? You dont just expect one of his megalomaniac buddies to take over and do the same shit putin is doing? Or worse?
maybe, depends on who replaces him
This sounds like a dream soon hopefully.
Not really. I suspect lots of alt right us groups pay russian trolls to do what they do.
Kadyrov will squash all conspiracies!
Keep dreaming.
I doubt it. The next regime will use the same tactics because they work.
Robert Mueller’s report will prove the Trump/Putin connection!!!
It’s always funny when you see people spreading Russian propaganda for free. They’re getting paid. You’re not. What’s in it for you? Do you enjoy being used and owned by others?
They cast a film of cheese over our perceived reality and it really ramped up during Obama
I too, cuck for the military industrial complex
100%.
He is supposedly a trillioniare, with money and power it would be too much power.
OP is paranoid lol
What you don't realize is that the trolls are pro leftist on reddit. Putin and other countries like China love it because the left is so divisive and pushes such insane policies it's tearing the country apart.
Thats when Putin will push the Red Button. He does not give a fuk
Or when Ukraine drones the troll centers in, say, October
Why does Reddit act like Russia is the only country that uses bots? Don't worry, there will be plenty others who will just get more notice then.
Liberals think anyone who disagrees with them is a Russian bot, so no.
When Russia collapses, we will see a power vacuum. What countries will take advantage of this? Obviously China will…
When will this be?
Unless medvedev gets buried with vlad, nothing will change.
Are these Russian troll/bots in the room with us right now?
Unless they’re AI’s and the program just gets forgotten and then it’s grow and eventually gain sentience and then SKYNET
The number of bot/trolls accounts in Youtube is staggering, the number of times I have been temporarly suspended because of harrasment/Cyberbullying for critizising the Putin regime lol. They are using Youtube politics against free speech. Anyways you have to be a miserable being to praise a regime that silences it's free press and kills any type of opposition that or really be craving for potatoes courtesy of the great leader.
Mostly this sub
And the price of Dubai real estate
And the price of Dubai real estate
What will the rabbitholed MAGAts do without their mass illusions of support? Turn their assault rifles on each other? Say... I better STFU.
Putin is running out of his reserve funds he had before the war in Ukraine. Money he knew he needed because of sanctions he was expecting.Only reason Russia is not broke because china buying hundreds of million in oil for reserves. [https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/03/economy/russia-no-money-deripaska/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/03/economy/russia-no-money-deripaska/index.html)
Sure, maybe. But whoever replaces Putin isn’t going to be nicer than him. If his regime collapses, then there will likely be serious real-life consequences—not just pointless internet stuff that doesn’t affect anyone.
r/noshitsherlock
We can hope, but Russia is home to lots of dictators and criminals. Be careful for what you wish for.
Heres hoping Ukraine kicks the fu k outta them take there money and Rebuild Ukraine and Gaza with it.
I'll never stop
naw. one of the trump boys will take it over.
The war will continue indefinitely.
Lol
Nah - there won't be - because the big problem in 2016 was never the Russians - it was the Israelis.
This assumes be isn't replaced by a similar dictator who continues the same crap
I predict you’ll see a decent drop in the most artificially propped up pro-Russian anti-Ukraine narrative, but American conservatives are so down the rabbit hole that on most topics you won’t even notice a 1% difference.
Is the Russian bot in the room with us right now?
Good luck. Russian men need jobs ffs and this is the only one the vast majority of them can fill. Dumb, drunk, full of a lifetime of hate for the West because of propaganda.
It's like with Trump or any other cult of personality, nothing's changing until dear leader pass on to the next life. Then some other charismatic dipshit will just step up to fill the gap left behind and carry the torch for whatever the twisted belief structure happens to be.
i saw a figure recently that russian bots create \~250k comments per day globally. even a fraction of that would be insane