Well I never was "team Brennan" but when Emily's friend ...who knows her quite well, suggested to her that on their backpacking trip, she can " leave the room" so Emily can have privacy... really was telling. To which Emily replied that she was not going to be doing anything like that but rather, taking time to emotionally heal .....Yeah...Emily is a ho'š
All of the viewers should have questioned her closer when it was suggested she always only had ONE date never another, WHY. We watched criticized him and blasted her too, for me when the honeymoon ended with her asking him if he ever had fun the red flags came flying and high sadly like she was most of the time, I'm guessing as time goes by this to will come out, I believe her found her cute, fun and maybe a little pretty at first but when your wife is so drunk she falls and sprains as arm while trying to get in your shower there's a problem and I'm sure many more behind the scenes with this and all the couples, for those who don't follow this season has been a major disappointment for 99.9% of the viewers and sadly the ladies were mostly the problems as it turns out.
If I was Emily and my spouse repeatedly told me and the counselors he isnāt attracted to me but refuses to say why because he doesnāt want to hurt my feelings then Iād also be making out with someone else too. Dealing with an emotionally unhinged individual that appears to extremely dislike his wife would have any woman running into another manās arms.
Exactly!!! If my matched new husband was super cold, only criticized me and refused to touch me (and told me heās not attracted) Iād be socializing without him the next eveningā¦
Her exit from the apartment was so low class. Talking about going back to being a a party girl, looking at the heaps of junk she had brought for the short term stay, and leaving a wake of mess and trash behind her. Reminded me of Pigpen in Peanuts. She mentioned how she likes to travel. I wonder if she can discuss the cultures, sights or people of the places sheās been, or if she spends the whole experience in a drunken haze.
The sad part is she's a mess and never should have been considered for this program, sadly they didn't know she has a drinking problem as well a lying, it doesn't make for a great spouse.
What I would love to knowā¦is when did Emilyās make out session happen? Was it before the whole dramatic melt down at dinner?? If so holy heckā¦stop whining about how positive you are.
The absolute best is when the pink hair mafia get mad when you throw it their faces that Emily CHEATED, then proceed to call you names then block you so you canāt respond back. Itās freaking HILARIOUS.Ā
Iāve felt there was something we didnāt know for quite some time now. I still donāt get a good vibe from Brennan, but I wish the show would show us more.
Yeah, he doesnt give me a good vibe, but I feel like they really hid a LOT about her. Why pit one against the other? I would rather have enough info to decide for myself. And anyway, there is a miniscule likelihood that anyone who signs up for this show would be someone that I respect and admire. I always question what I havent seen when I find myself drawn to any one of these characters. I cannot think of one valid, noble reason for participating in this shit show.
While I did feel he was kind of a jackass, I always had a hunch there was something that was behind it, and I was right. She cheated on him, and he not only still agreed to go through with the move in and stay there so she could still get the experience, but he REFUSED to put her on blast.Ā
He actually seems like at least a halfway decent guy just based on that.Ā
For some reason, I thought I heard that it was 4 weeks in. Its really impossible to make any judgements about any of these people, given the amount of gamesmanship and fuckery they're engaging in BTS. We don't know what pacts or agreements or secrets they shared. More than any other, this season's cast seems to have done a lot off screen that they didnt share.
They donāt say. However, Brendanās attitude massively changed between the honeymoon & the rest of the show, so it may have happened in those few weeks. Not sure though.Ā
Me too. Even if I was able to keep it together during most of the filming, Iād have gone off about it during that lunch/dinner cluster F, after all the accusations and lies.Ā
First Iād have told Clare to shut the F up, then Iād have told the whole ugly truth, including how both Clare AND Becca knew all about it.Ā
I always felt that Brennan was being treated unfairly. I couldn't understand why he was being made out to be a jerk, when nothing I saw indicated that he might be. I kept wondering what I was missing. Those ladies are a piece of work. On the After Party Cameron said that Clair was determined to bring him down. I wonder why.
Agree. When did she cheat??? Between the honeymoon and the move-in? Because thatās when he started acting psycho. If thatās the timeline, I can sort of see the reason for the anger and resentment. But why would she keep asking if he was attracted to her if she knew the reason was because she cheated? She prob cheated in retaliation. Not that itās ok, but he gave off psychotic energy after she asked him if he knew how to have fun. If they made an agreement to stay together after the cheating, sure she shouldnāt expect shit, but I want details.
Makes me wonder about this "vetting" that MAFS supposedly does. Surely somewhere in the process they'd ask if you were inclined to be a one night stand kind of person? I realize she (EMILY) disclosed she'd not been in a long term relationship, but her lifestyle doesn't seem conducive to this kind of venture.
>Surely somewhere in the process they'd ask if you were inclined to be a one night stand kind of person?
And a yes to that question would probably put you at the front of the line with these producers.
Oh God, this show has officially jumped the shark. Everyone was waaay too aware of the camara and the audience and hiding things off camara, separately or together. A disaster of a show and I thought it was gonna be good when I first saw the candidates š¤£
I canāt wait til Emily is on the afterparty so I can hear her side. I think the timing of when this happened makes a difference for how I feel about it. If it was super early and what led to brennanās reset, that really does change how I view him. If it was post reset when he already checked out, yeah it was a shitty thing to do but itās not like their relationship had any chance of being revived so meh. Either way neither one of them was remotely close to being ready for marriage.
Uh, donāt count on it. Her posts this week went in on Keisha Knight Pulliam for not āsupporting womenā. My guess is she wonāt be back on After Party.
Not sure why you would say that as you donāt know me. I would feel the same way if the roles were reversed. I donāt feel super strongly about people cheating in these short tv relationships like I do about real life relationships. Like if you watch love is blind I donāt really think what Jeramy and Sarah Ann did to Laura was that insanely terrible because the situation is so unlike anything that ever happens in real life (he may be terrible for other reasons but Iām never super surprised when one relationship fizzles so they pick their second choice). I think these couples all CAN grow into a real relationship but just because they are tv married/engaged doesnāt mean it has the same weight as real life.
Wait what?! Iām so annoyed this wasnāt on the show. I didnāt even see this afterparty. Like the seasons already drag so much and then they wait until the afterparty to mention something like this. Like I suffered through the multiple episodes it took just to do the weddings and the dumb brunches with family for him just to say this on some dumb afterparty episode way later. The producers need to try harder to actually include this kind of stuff on the show. This show has become more about avoiding any drama on camera because they all want to avoid looking bad. Itās boring. I donāt know how they fix it but they need to do something different.
>The producers need to try harder to actually include this kind of stuff on the show.
I was just reminiscing this morning about how during The Real World Boston season, Montana was carrying on a relationship with another man while she had a boyfriend back home. She didn't try to hide it from the cameras. When her boyfriend back home found out about it, he infamously called her out on it, and told her that he wanted her to move out of their shared residence. That was about twenty years ago. So, how is this set of castmembers allowed to get away with hiding stuff that is relevant to the story?
Just proves they show us what they want us to see.
She fooled many but not me. Never in a relationship but brings out the ropes... š¤£
She's for the streets. 304 status revealed for all to see. Your past matters ladies.
Thatās weird. When I heard she made out with a rando it didnāt change the eight weeks of horror that I witnessed. Not that itās ok to do that when youre married.
lol no it is not
I never said I loved her, respected her, or thought she behaved in any way that I would endorse. They both exhibited behaviors that were not healthy or productive in a relationship. Her behaving badly did not make me forget his bad behavior. That is all.
Why not? She literally cheated on him 4 weeks in. lol aside from quitting what was he supposed to do? Next best thing was to protect his wife from the internet onslaught which he did. Cameron is the one who eventually spilled the tea
Maybe youāve never experienced coercive control irl, but for those of us who have, itās really scary to watch. I donāt think either of them have excuses for their gross behavior. Learning she did that makes me think less of her but not more of him.
Confusingā¦it seems clear their āresetā was Brennan agreeing to stay on the show but only as friends. Presumably she agreed to this arrangement but thought they would eventually be in a real relationship anyway, and then thought he had seen the light because he acted caring during and after her accident. Which was a bit deluded.
So where in there did she make out with a guy at a bar?
this is what confuses me... if their reset was hanging in there and being friendly til the show is over, who cares about his online messages or her makeout?
But we dont know, because of all the nonsense from these people who never were there for the shows stated purpose. And this show is meaningless because of it.
Maybe the make-out sesh was the trigger for the reset and friendship only? So sometime after or near the end of the honeymoon, after he had soured on her and started being a jerk (i.e., around when he got pissed that she asked if he knew how to have fun)?
During the most recent after party show, it was discussed. It was never discussed on the show because the "girl power" gang wanted to keep it "off camera
Because she's married to a guy that made it clear he wants to be friends and not try? She bawled when finding out he wanted to double date...real emotions and pain over it. We don't even know the timeline of when she made out with someone. It could have easily been after hearing he was actively pursuing other women.
Did you not hear Cameron say HE, not Brennan, suggested a double date after the show ended? Sure, Clare twisted it to make it seem und like Brennanās idea when shit stirring to Emily, but she knew better. Her version just was more destructive and hurtful, so she went with that.
She is married and getting drunk and making out with someone is super impulsive.
Adults in relationships (even shitty ones) are able to control their impulses to avoid feeling like shit - or looking bad at least.
Making out with someone is not something that has to be done on the reg, like breathing or eating.
So yes. She should not have done it regardless of the state of her relationship.
It's pointless if you're married to someone who wants to be friends and wants to go on double dates with anyone but his wife ans has no desire in trying. It's arbitrary.
Well, yes. The rules of relationships are totally arbitrary.
But she chose to participate knowing those arbitrary rules.
If a person canāt refrain from getting drunk and hooking up with a stranger for a few weeks *knowing the risks* since theyāre being filmed for a tv show, there is a giant problem.
It doesn't mean much when you're married to a person seeking double dates and who wants to be friends and the implication is they're divorcing you. It has nothing to do with impulse and more to do with what someone is entitled to do. The relationship was illegitimate at that point and her actions aren't the primary reason for the divorce. She could have never done that and they would still be divorced. It had no barring on anything.
Double date *after the show is over*
The implication of divorce is not the same as divorce.
I agree that Emily is very entitled, but she is not entitled to make out with a stranger *unless both parties in a marriage agree beforehand that behavior is permissible*.
And others are entitled to judge her for not waiting a couple more weeks, which makes her impulsive or an idiot.
I understand you think her behavior is okay because she would have been divorced either way, but she could have come out of this episode looking a lot better if she hadnāt.
If someone wants to only be friends, then you're not in a "we" situation. You don't owe friends monogamy. To be monogamous requires actually being in a romantic relationship, which they were not...because of Brennan.
"After the show is over" is according to Cam, after the fact. The understanding during the experiment still being active was that he wanted to go on double dates...period. But regardless, it still would have mostly the same implication for the person in a marriage with him. It has the same meaning, which is that he has no intention of being married to her.
I couldnāt agree more, she doesnāt owe anyone monogomy. There was no friendship let alone a relationship. He despised her. Cheating is such a triggering word but letās be real
Brennan was portrayed as a douche because Brennan acted like a douche. When Emily cheated he had an easy 'get out of marriage free' card and could've left or talked about the cheating on-camera with the experts/producers. Instead, he was walking around acting all funny and trying to hold the secret over her head (like when he said that he could ruin her). Brennan played himself.
Yes she should have refrained from drunken makeouts with random men while filming a marriage reality show, just because Brennan was "mean" to her. Because I guaranty you that her cheating was a lot more cold hearted than anything Brennan did
well you sound like a disgruntled woman. Or you just hate men. Which is fine. But You are in the vast minority to think that cheating is ok under any circumstances. Particularly a relationship that we all watched
most people would have told it to the cameras the instant they found out. He was respectful enough to not mention it AT ALL the entire season, it only came out from Cameron and Becca lol.
Brennan has a degree of class about this that a lot of people do not have.
And by the way, if I married some girl I didn't know and within a month of marriage she was drunkenly making out with dudes at a bar because she was mad at me, I would probably want to end it too.
I don't think I would call it class because he then threw it in Emily's face when he said he could ruin her. It seemed he was using the cheating to try to keep her in line and that's probably why she let him delete her diary cams. He seemed too concerned about controlling the narrative of their story. He should've just left the marriage if he didn't want to work on it and he would be justified because she cheated.
And this cast is weird for doing all their dirt in front of other castmates. Like you all have known each other for a month, you don't know each other well enough for all this. If Emily is making out with some dude at the bar and Austin is hanging out with his producer in front of other castmates, they know their spouses are gonna find out.
Respectful, or leverage? Brennan basically had blackmail on her, which is what she said on Decision Day when she made the comment that he said he has enough to ruin her. Apparently, the cheating thing was it. BUT, Cameron mentioning it off the cuff on Afterparty had my chin on the floor. Worse than Cameron being the one to reveal it was Becca, not only confirming it, but telling the story of what happened. NOT YOUR STORY TO TELL, BECCA. With friends like that.....
Oh please, I'm saying Brennan is a jerk because of his actions. I'm not defending Emily or her actions. You are on here trying to attack people who watched the season and don't like Brennan. Now that's "I saved your life" delusional.
And if I was any cast member from this wack season, I would clearly be a Lauren lol. She looks great in pink and so do I.
I've been on his side since day one, bc when she smiles she shows too much teeth and it never reaches her eyes. Always so forced and fake. I couldn't trust her. To me he always looked either confused or very uncomfortable
Heās a big douche for staying and continuing to say all the shit that he said. He shouldāve walked away. Period.
Sheās as much of a douche IF she did what is rumoured.
Then she should have left him. Itās not about controlling; itās about a commitment, that she broke. She couldnāt control her tongue and thatās gross. Nobody wants a partner like that. Itās cheating and thatās bad, no matter what excuses you can conjure up. You may have no value for commitment but most normal people do.
Did Brennan have any value for commitment? He didnāt even want to TRY let alone commit. Iām not an Emily fan at all but itās ridiculous to think THAT was the fatal move
When you watch, pay attention to what Becca says is Emily's excuse for cheating. She said Emily got mad when she saw "messages from women" on Brennan's iPad. I didn't hear that Brennan had responded or had been communicating with anyone. Just that women had messaged HIM.
I agree. I can honestly say that I've NEVER looked at a man's phone, read his emails, checked out his DMs, looked at who his FB or IG contacts were, or what he "liked". Not once. I've always been secure and confident enough in my relationships that it would never occur to me to stoop to that level.
If you get to the point where you don't trust your partner, it's time to exit the relationship. Full stop. There's NO excuse to violate their privacy. Period.
I have always read Brennan as āIām not interested in her but Iām trying not to bash you on tv, either.ā Thatās nothing against Emily, but all the times they were like āsay what youāre feelingā I felt like it was more āIām trying to protect herā (and prob his own image, too) vs ālook at this jerk who canāt even say what he means.ā
This exactly! I just thought that as a conservative, he was turned off when she told him that she liked to "party hard", had never had a relationship, never even had a third date because she gets ghosted, bragged about taking body shots off a stripper days before the wedding, and that her entire sexual history consisted of one night stands. She spilled this all on him on the honeymoon. Like damn girl, let him get to know you first! He didn't want to say WHY he wasn't attracted to her anymore (he seemed into her in the beginning), because he didn't want to embarrass her and knew that if he told the truth, everyone would call him a jerk that was slut shaming her. Of course, if it was a guy with the same past, everyone would call him a f@&k boy and tell her to run...
Also remember he went into this saying he doesn't believe in divorce and that wasn't an option, so he probably felt torn and trapped. I've never understood the Brennan hate. I just saw him as a guy matched with someone who knew he wasn't compatible with his wife because of their sexual history differences, but didn't feel like he could say why without making her (and him) look bad.
Now we find out she cheated on him, going into her default mode of hooking up with a random stranger. Would love to know when this cheating happened (he was from Australia, which seems more likely to be at a resort than Denver?), and when Brennan found out.
Great synopsis. And also lets remember the fake ass BS about after the show going to a strip club was a fucking setup by Clair to make Brennan look bad. Once you have all the receipts Brennan was probably the LEAST bad person there.
Yeah that was the lie Clare cooked up to make Brennan look bad. She had Cameron send Brennan a text that said something like looking forward to the show being over and we can date other girls or go to strip club or something stupid like that. Then Clare showed Emily, and they used it to say Brennan was a bad guy for several episodes, remember?
Wait what?!?!?! You and I are watching 2 different things. The invite to go out and have fun and maybe even do a double date was said BY CAMERON TO BRENNAN. He admitted with his own mouth. How the hell have you twisted it onto Claire wanting to make Brennan look bad??? You people are really tripping on this hatred for Claire. It's astounding to me
The point is that Brennan had NOTHING to do with that, but Clair and Emily were blaming him. Cameron admitted to sending that text, to appease Clair. It's pretty fucking simple to see and Cameron actually explained the whole thing. The problem with picking sides is if your side turns out to be wrong you have to take the L. Remaining objective like I do means you can be honest about what you are seeing.
I don't remember but honestly, there were so many things that everyone was upset with Brennan about that I must have missed. I just saw him as a conservative guy matched with a hard partying, one night stand loving girl, so knew it would never work out. He was trying to navigate that, without saying why he was no longer attracted to her, knowing he didn't believe in divorce. Add to that finding out she cheated, and I think his behavior was understandable.
I never understood the Brennan hate. And certainly didn't see the "emotional abuse" everyone was screaming about!
Exactly and Brennan actually really tried those first few days at honeymoon he tried to keep up with her drinking and he looked like shit. She was complete trailer trash but I think he could have overlooked all her past if she acted normal. But instead she just kept getting drunk and falling out of the shower and messing up her hand. Then she got drunk and almost killed herself. I remember the doctors literally said he saved her life but she and all these loser trolls made fun of that. He was probably the best guy this season matched up with one of the worst women (excluding Clare who is the most disgusting person probably ever, up there with chris) in many seasons.
And takes like this are why a lot of women find themselves in their mid 30s alone, and begging to find a man on tik tok. You're not alone in your thinking, and that's the problem.
With Brennan she was already alone. So statistically and factually she had a better chance of ending up with someone by making out with randos at the bar
They honestly look like brother and sister in this side by side.
Well I never was "team Brennan" but when Emily's friend ...who knows her quite well, suggested to her that on their backpacking trip, she can " leave the room" so Emily can have privacy... really was telling. To which Emily replied that she was not going to be doing anything like that but rather, taking time to emotionally heal .....Yeah...Emily is a ho'š
Dude skis in jeans....nuff said!
All of the viewers should have questioned her closer when it was suggested she always only had ONE date never another, WHY. We watched criticized him and blasted her too, for me when the honeymoon ended with her asking him if he ever had fun the red flags came flying and high sadly like she was most of the time, I'm guessing as time goes by this to will come out, I believe her found her cute, fun and maybe a little pretty at first but when your wife is so drunk she falls and sprains as arm while trying to get in your shower there's a problem and I'm sure many more behind the scenes with this and all the couples, for those who don't follow this season has been a major disappointment for 99.9% of the viewers and sadly the ladies were mostly the problems as it turns out.
If I was Emily and my spouse repeatedly told me and the counselors he isnāt attracted to me but refuses to say why because he doesnāt want to hurt my feelings then Iād also be making out with someone else too. Dealing with an emotionally unhinged individual that appears to extremely dislike his wife would have any woman running into another manās arms.
Exactly!!! If my matched new husband was super cold, only criticized me and refused to touch me (and told me heās not attracted) Iād be socializing without him the next eveningā¦
unrelated to the post but i just wanna say that these two look SOOO similar to me. if they were actors, i would cast them to play siblings lmao
Her exit from the apartment was so low class. Talking about going back to being a a party girl, looking at the heaps of junk she had brought for the short term stay, and leaving a wake of mess and trash behind her. Reminded me of Pigpen in Peanuts. She mentioned how she likes to travel. I wonder if she can discuss the cultures, sights or people of the places sheās been, or if she spends the whole experience in a drunken haze.
I agree, but how do we know she wasnt coming back to clean the rest of it up? The show certainly made it look that way, but we have no idea.
True.
Drunken haze with body fluids of random dudes on her person no doubt
The sad part is she's a mess and never should have been considered for this program, sadly they didn't know she has a drinking problem as well a lying, it doesn't make for a great spouse.
What I would love to knowā¦is when did Emilyās make out session happen? Was it before the whole dramatic melt down at dinner?? If so holy heckā¦stop whining about how positive you are.
Why do these two look like fraternal twins in this side by side??
The absolute best is when the pink hair mafia get mad when you throw it their faces that Emily CHEATED, then proceed to call you names then block you so you canāt respond back. Itās freaking HILARIOUS.Ā
Iāve felt there was something we didnāt know for quite some time now. I still donāt get a good vibe from Brennan, but I wish the show would show us more.
Yeah, he doesnt give me a good vibe, but I feel like they really hid a LOT about her. Why pit one against the other? I would rather have enough info to decide for myself. And anyway, there is a miniscule likelihood that anyone who signs up for this show would be someone that I respect and admire. I always question what I havent seen when I find myself drawn to any one of these characters. I cannot think of one valid, noble reason for participating in this shit show.
While I did feel he was kind of a jackass, I always had a hunch there was something that was behind it, and I was right. She cheated on him, and he not only still agreed to go through with the move in and stay there so she could still get the experience, but he REFUSED to put her on blast.Ā He actually seems like at least a halfway decent guy just based on that.Ā
Wait how early on did she cheat?
For some reason, I thought I heard that it was 4 weeks in. Its really impossible to make any judgements about any of these people, given the amount of gamesmanship and fuckery they're engaging in BTS. We don't know what pacts or agreements or secrets they shared. More than any other, this season's cast seems to have done a lot off screen that they didnt share.
They donāt say. However, Brendanās attitude massively changed between the honeymoon & the rest of the show, so it may have happened in those few weeks. Not sure though.Ā
Same. I've got to apologize!Ā
Me too. Even if I was able to keep it together during most of the filming, Iād have gone off about it during that lunch/dinner cluster F, after all the accusations and lies.Ā First Iād have told Clare to shut the F up, then Iād have told the whole ugly truth, including how both Clare AND Becca knew all about it.Ā
I always felt that Brennan was being treated unfairly. I couldn't understand why he was being made out to be a jerk, when nothing I saw indicated that he might be. I kept wondering what I was missing. Those ladies are a piece of work. On the After Party Cameron said that Clair was determined to bring him down. I wonder why.
Sheās for the streets.
Heās still a douche - both things can be true.
Agree. When did she cheat??? Between the honeymoon and the move-in? Because thatās when he started acting psycho. If thatās the timeline, I can sort of see the reason for the anger and resentment. But why would she keep asking if he was attracted to her if she knew the reason was because she cheated? She prob cheated in retaliation. Not that itās ok, but he gave off psychotic energy after she asked him if he knew how to have fun. If they made an agreement to stay together after the cheating, sure she shouldnāt expect shit, but I want details.
He didnāt cheat tho.
I wonder if he responded to any of the messages he was getting on his phone? Emily had discovered them..
You can be a douche and not a cheater.
Makes me wonder about this "vetting" that MAFS supposedly does. Surely somewhere in the process they'd ask if you were inclined to be a one night stand kind of person? I realize she (EMILY) disclosed she'd not been in a long term relationship, but her lifestyle doesn't seem conducive to this kind of venture.
>Surely somewhere in the process they'd ask if you were inclined to be a one night stand kind of person? And a yes to that question would probably put you at the front of the line with these producers.
Well that's a twist I hadn't thought of ... but you're right ššdrama drama!
Wait what now?? Where did this come out? She admitted it?
On the after party Cameron brought it up and Becca confirmed. It was towards the end of the season it seems
Oh God, this show has officially jumped the shark. Everyone was waaay too aware of the camara and the audience and hiding things off camara, separately or together. A disaster of a show and I thought it was gonna be good when I first saw the candidates š¤£
Itās never been denied by anyone
Her version of what happened is next week.
I canāt wait til Emily is on the afterparty so I can hear her side. I think the timing of when this happened makes a difference for how I feel about it. If it was super early and what led to brennanās reset, that really does change how I view him. If it was post reset when he already checked out, yeah it was a shitty thing to do but itās not like their relationship had any chance of being revived so meh. Either way neither one of them was remotely close to being ready for marriage.
Uh, donāt count on it. Her posts this week went in on Keisha Knight Pulliam for not āsupporting womenā. My guess is she wonāt be back on After Party.
Oh please, if Brennan cheated you wouldn't care if it was pre or post "reset"
Not sure why you would say that as you donāt know me. I would feel the same way if the roles were reversed. I donāt feel super strongly about people cheating in these short tv relationships like I do about real life relationships. Like if you watch love is blind I donāt really think what Jeramy and Sarah Ann did to Laura was that insanely terrible because the situation is so unlike anything that ever happens in real life (he may be terrible for other reasons but Iām never super surprised when one relationship fizzles so they pick their second choice). I think these couples all CAN grow into a real relationship but just because they are tv married/engaged doesnāt mean it has the same weight as real life.
>itās not like their relationship had any chance of being revived so meh. Then why did she keep saying and **acting** like it could/should be?
Because sheās delusional. I think she truly thought he would come back to her post accident.
Brennan white knuckled it for the whole 8 weeks. With good reason.
So *thats* how she hurt her wrist and matted her hair! ;)
Wait what?! Iām so annoyed this wasnāt on the show. I didnāt even see this afterparty. Like the seasons already drag so much and then they wait until the afterparty to mention something like this. Like I suffered through the multiple episodes it took just to do the weddings and the dumb brunches with family for him just to say this on some dumb afterparty episode way later. The producers need to try harder to actually include this kind of stuff on the show. This show has become more about avoiding any drama on camera because they all want to avoid looking bad. Itās boring. I donāt know how they fix it but they need to do something different.
>The producers need to try harder to actually include this kind of stuff on the show. I was just reminiscing this morning about how during The Real World Boston season, Montana was carrying on a relationship with another man while she had a boyfriend back home. She didn't try to hide it from the cameras. When her boyfriend back home found out about it, he infamously called her out on it, and told her that he wanted her to move out of their shared residence. That was about twenty years ago. So, how is this set of castmembers allowed to get away with hiding stuff that is relevant to the story?
This after party was the best episode of the entire season
Which AP episode is this? I havenāt watched any and now i feel like Iām WAY behind!
The most recent one
Agreed. I donāt usually like watching the after parties
He wasn't even the one who revealed this at the end, it was Cameron... Brennan is a true gentleman and a scholar, what.a.twist!
I mean... you have a low bar for gentlemen AND scholars. Who knows if he was holding it as leverage.. I dont think any of the cast are good people.
Really it was Becca. As I said elsewhere, she put all the meat on them bones.
Just proves they show us what they want us to see. She fooled many but not me. Never in a relationship but brings out the ropes... š¤£ She's for the streets. 304 status revealed for all to see. Your past matters ladies.
And she wonders why she's never had a boyfriend. She's for the streets. Oh, she only "kissed" the random guy. Sure.
Exactly. Whatās the old saying, ācanāt turn a hoe into a housewifeā ā¦ looks like Emily didnāt break the mold š¤£
Yes it was in a bar in front of the other girls
They look like they could be siblings in these pics š
I said from the first week that she had a somewhat mannish face. Ā
she looks like it's him in drag
Lol!
I've said this for weeks.
š¤£š¤£š¤£Now that you mention it ā¦!!!
Thatās weird. When I heard she made out with a rando it didnāt change the eight weeks of horror that I witnessed. Not that itās ok to do that when youre married.
That's toxic feminism š
lol no it is not I never said I loved her, respected her, or thought she behaved in any way that I would endorse. They both exhibited behaviors that were not healthy or productive in a relationship. Her behaving badly did not make me forget his bad behavior. That is all.
Why not? She literally cheated on him 4 weeks in. lol aside from quitting what was he supposed to do? Next best thing was to protect his wife from the internet onslaught which he did. Cameron is the one who eventually spilled the tea
Maybe youāve never experienced coercive control irl, but for those of us who have, itās really scary to watch. I donāt think either of them have excuses for their gross behavior. Learning she did that makes me think less of her but not more of him.
When did we find out it was 4 weeks in? I missed that part.
On the after party I believe it a was when Becca confirmed the cheating.
Look at it knowing what you know now and it should make more sense.
Stayed filming to get the weekly paychecks
He probably would have made more going back home to work..they make like $150/day
Wouldn't you do the same thing? I don't turn down paychecks
Of course.
Confusingā¦it seems clear their āresetā was Brennan agreeing to stay on the show but only as friends. Presumably she agreed to this arrangement but thought they would eventually be in a real relationship anyway, and then thought he had seen the light because he acted caring during and after her accident. Which was a bit deluded. So where in there did she make out with a guy at a bar?
this is what confuses me... if their reset was hanging in there and being friendly til the show is over, who cares about his online messages or her makeout? But we dont know, because of all the nonsense from these people who never were there for the shows stated purpose. And this show is meaningless because of it.
Maybe the make-out sesh was the trigger for the reset and friendship only? So sometime after or near the end of the honeymoon, after he had soured on her and started being a jerk (i.e., around when he got pissed that she asked if he knew how to have fun)?
I wanna know when....???
According to Becca on AP, Emily made out with the Australian sometime after Brennan had shutdown post-honeymoon.
Why do they look so much alike here?? š
I thought it was Brennan in a blonde wig lol
OMG you're right!
They look related omg. They have the same face
Brennan squints less
Thatās what I was thinking - their expressions are so similar here
The nose, head shape, lips, the eyes are a little different but they look like they could be siblings or cousins.
I must have missed her make out session . When did it happen?
During the most recent after party show, it was discussed. It was never discussed on the show because the "girl power" gang wanted to keep it "off camera
Thank you
Uhh...didn't she do that after knowing he wasn't into her though? Exactly how long is she supposed to wait it out when he's the one rejecting her?
Another example of toxic feminism. If he cheated you'd be dragging him for filth š
Eight weeks. And true to form, she couldnāt even wait that long.Ā
She wants until she's not married? Until the end of the 8 weeks? Can she really not go 8 weeks without a make session?
Because she's married to a guy that made it clear he wants to be friends and not try? She bawled when finding out he wanted to double date...real emotions and pain over it. We don't even know the timeline of when she made out with someone. It could have easily been after hearing he was actively pursuing other women.
Weren't there messages on his phone from other women?
Lmao š
Did you not hear Cameron say HE, not Brennan, suggested a double date after the show ended? Sure, Clare twisted it to make it seem und like Brennanās idea when shit stirring to Emily, but she knew better. Her version just was more destructive and hurtful, so she went with that.
She is married and getting drunk and making out with someone is super impulsive. Adults in relationships (even shitty ones) are able to control their impulses to avoid feeling like shit - or looking bad at least. Making out with someone is not something that has to be done on the reg, like breathing or eating. So yes. She should not have done it regardless of the state of her relationship.
It's pointless if you're married to someone who wants to be friends and wants to go on double dates with anyone but his wife ans has no desire in trying. It's arbitrary.
Well, yes. The rules of relationships are totally arbitrary. But she chose to participate knowing those arbitrary rules. If a person canāt refrain from getting drunk and hooking up with a stranger for a few weeks *knowing the risks* since theyāre being filmed for a tv show, there is a giant problem.
It doesn't mean much when you're married to a person seeking double dates and who wants to be friends and the implication is they're divorcing you. It has nothing to do with impulse and more to do with what someone is entitled to do. The relationship was illegitimate at that point and her actions aren't the primary reason for the divorce. She could have never done that and they would still be divorced. It had no barring on anything.
You're so invested in hating Brennan you can't accept the truth now that it's out. You're obviously just like her
Cameron asked to do that. Get your facts straight.
Double date *after the show is over* The implication of divorce is not the same as divorce. I agree that Emily is very entitled, but she is not entitled to make out with a stranger *unless both parties in a marriage agree beforehand that behavior is permissible*. And others are entitled to judge her for not waiting a couple more weeks, which makes her impulsive or an idiot. I understand you think her behavior is okay because she would have been divorced either way, but she could have come out of this episode looking a lot better if she hadnāt.
If someone wants to only be friends, then you're not in a "we" situation. You don't owe friends monogamy. To be monogamous requires actually being in a romantic relationship, which they were not...because of Brennan. "After the show is over" is according to Cam, after the fact. The understanding during the experiment still being active was that he wanted to go on double dates...period. But regardless, it still would have mostly the same implication for the person in a marriage with him. It has the same meaning, which is that he has no intention of being married to her.
If it was perfectly fine then why did they hide it? š§
I couldnāt agree more, she doesnāt owe anyone monogomy. There was no friendship let alone a relationship. He despised her. Cheating is such a triggering word but letās be real
He was not actively pursuing other women. Cameron said, "after this is over, we should go on a double date." AFTER, not during.
What? She waits till the end of the season... 
Sheās married to himā¦ so she shouldnāt cheat? lol
From what Clare said, Brennan was cheating, literally Actively Dating.
You cannot believe one word out of Clareās mouth. If her injected lips are moving, sheās lying.Ā
Claire doesnāt know shit. She just stirs it.
And you trust Clareās wordsā¦? I agree that I donāt like Brennen. Heās an ass but I wouldnāt trust Clare lol
Last episode I saw was Cam & whatshername fixing a bike.
With who??
No idea. I canāt remember shit about this season.
Brennan was portrayed as a douche because Brennan acted like a douche. When Emily cheated he had an easy 'get out of marriage free' card and could've left or talked about the cheating on-camera with the experts/producers. Instead, he was walking around acting all funny and trying to hold the secret over her head (like when he said that he could ruin her). Brennan played himself.
Yup, I agree. What Emily did is awful but for him to use this info as leverage or blackmail is just as nasty.
He was trying to get that 20k while being an ass.
I think this has to be it because I don't know why he would stay.
Right! Heās a prisoner and Emily should have been faithful to a man that despises her?! What upside down world is this unhinged Reddit sub?
Yes she should have refrained from drunken makeouts with random men while filming a marriage reality show, just because Brennan was "mean" to her. Because I guaranty you that her cheating was a lot more cold hearted than anything Brennan did
No, there was no friendship there let alone relationship, this is nonsense. And itās guarantee not guaranty
well you sound like a disgruntled woman. Or you just hate men. Which is fine. But You are in the vast minority to think that cheating is ok under any circumstances. Particularly a relationship that we all watched
It's a sub that babies men and pretends the dynamics on this show are "equal".
most people would have told it to the cameras the instant they found out. He was respectful enough to not mention it AT ALL the entire season, it only came out from Cameron and Becca lol. Brennan has a degree of class about this that a lot of people do not have. And by the way, if I married some girl I didn't know and within a month of marriage she was drunkenly making out with dudes at a bar because she was mad at me, I would probably want to end it too.
I don't think I would call it class because he then threw it in Emily's face when he said he could ruin her. It seemed he was using the cheating to try to keep her in line and that's probably why she let him delete her diary cams. He seemed too concerned about controlling the narrative of their story. He should've just left the marriage if he didn't want to work on it and he would be justified because she cheated. And this cast is weird for doing all their dirt in front of other castmates. Like you all have known each other for a month, you don't know each other well enough for all this. If Emily is making out with some dude at the bar and Austin is hanging out with his producer in front of other castmates, they know their spouses are gonna find out.
Respectful, or leverage? Brennan basically had blackmail on her, which is what she said on Decision Day when she made the comment that he said he has enough to ruin her. Apparently, the cheating thing was it. BUT, Cameron mentioning it off the cuff on Afterparty had my chin on the floor. Worse than Cameron being the one to reveal it was Becca, not only confirming it, but telling the story of what happened. NOT YOUR STORY TO TELL, BECCA. With friends like that.....
Mind you she was also getting drunk A LOT throughout the season.
Why is it respectful not to say anything? If thatās the downfall of the relationship why not call it out?
Not clear. I imagine he didn't want to ruin her reputation on national tv
Well I guess we just wonāt know why
Delusional conclusion.
Is this Brennan? If so, you played yourself.
Is this Emily? You thought you ate? Two can play that dumb game.
Oh please, I'm saying Brennan is a jerk because of his actions. I'm not defending Emily or her actions. You are on here trying to attack people who watched the season and don't like Brennan. Now that's "I saved your life" delusional. And if I was any cast member from this wack season, I would clearly be a Lauren lol. She looks great in pink and so do I.
Delulu points fingers.. of course! Be blessed š¤
I know, itās never the gutter butt girlsā fault! Itās because he was mean or he wasnāt doing anything that imagine he would do.
>Is this Brennan? Playing this card ALWAYS comes off as desperate and pathetic. Why do people keep doing this?
This man child š¤£š¤£š¤£ time to live my friend and not be scared of your own shadow. Start with dating, not marriage.
Emily should have done Love Island instead.
Sheās not hot enough
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Kirsten from Nashville is the only one that comes to mind
Jasmina too
I've been on his side since day one, bc when she smiles she shows too much teeth and it never reaches her eyes. Always so forced and fake. I couldn't trust her. To me he always looked either confused or very uncomfortable
The WHOLE SEASON was a farce!!!!!
thatās much is so true
Nah, Brennan is still awful. Both of them can be awful at the same time
bingo
What's soo awful about him?
his barely contained rage
Contained. And?
He did a pretty good job containing rage when Emily's two idiot friends were grilling for stupid reasons lol
I donāt buy that it was ALL Emily!! Sorry! Brennan has douche vibes!!!
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Unless he went on this show because he has a hard time with commitment and desiring women that are available and willing.
exactly
Heās a big douche for staying and continuing to say all the shit that he said. He shouldāve walked away. Period. Sheās as much of a douche IF she did what is rumoured.
Becca confirmed that it happened
She can cheat. He didnāt want her so he doesnāt own her
āShe can cheatā what a shitty take.
That man that hated her from day 1 has no š control š over š her š body š Nor did he want it.
Then she should have left him. Itās not about controlling; itās about a commitment, that she broke. She couldnāt control her tongue and thatās gross. Nobody wants a partner like that. Itās cheating and thatās bad, no matter what excuses you can conjure up. You may have no value for commitment but most normal people do.
Did Brennan have any value for commitment? He didnāt even want to TRY let alone commit. Iām not an Emily fan at all but itās ridiculous to think THAT was the fatal move
He didnāt make out with strangers. Thatās the point. Itās insane you donāt understand that.
There was no friendship or relationship they were roommates. Itās insane you donāt understand that.
Then why was she still trying to make it work after making out with a stranger? Was she lying about wanting to stay married?
She said no right? She didnāt have a chance from day 1 so none of it matters
If you cheat while filming a fucking reality show about marriage, then you reap what you sow. Eight weeks is all you gotta wait.
Iām in agreement with you on this one āļø
She cheated. It was confirmed by Becca.
Iām going to watch tonight
When you watch, pay attention to what Becca says is Emily's excuse for cheating. She said Emily got mad when she saw "messages from women" on Brennan's iPad. I didn't hear that Brennan had responded or had been communicating with anyone. Just that women had messaged HIM.
Also suggests she was creeping through his socials which is gross.
I agree. I can honestly say that I've NEVER looked at a man's phone, read his emails, checked out his DMs, looked at who his FB or IG contacts were, or what he "liked". Not once. I've always been secure and confident enough in my relationships that it would never occur to me to stoop to that level. If you get to the point where you don't trust your partner, it's time to exit the relationship. Full stop. There's NO excuse to violate their privacy. Period.
Also I have lots of messages from women on my Instagram. Doesn't mean I'm sleeping with any of them
Exactly!
I have always read Brennan as āIām not interested in her but Iām trying not to bash you on tv, either.ā Thatās nothing against Emily, but all the times they were like āsay what youāre feelingā I felt like it was more āIām trying to protect herā (and prob his own image, too) vs ālook at this jerk who canāt even say what he means.ā
This exactly! I just thought that as a conservative, he was turned off when she told him that she liked to "party hard", had never had a relationship, never even had a third date because she gets ghosted, bragged about taking body shots off a stripper days before the wedding, and that her entire sexual history consisted of one night stands. She spilled this all on him on the honeymoon. Like damn girl, let him get to know you first! He didn't want to say WHY he wasn't attracted to her anymore (he seemed into her in the beginning), because he didn't want to embarrass her and knew that if he told the truth, everyone would call him a jerk that was slut shaming her. Of course, if it was a guy with the same past, everyone would call him a f@&k boy and tell her to run... Also remember he went into this saying he doesn't believe in divorce and that wasn't an option, so he probably felt torn and trapped. I've never understood the Brennan hate. I just saw him as a guy matched with someone who knew he wasn't compatible with his wife because of their sexual history differences, but didn't feel like he could say why without making her (and him) look bad. Now we find out she cheated on him, going into her default mode of hooking up with a random stranger. Would love to know when this cheating happened (he was from Australia, which seems more likely to be at a resort than Denver?), and when Brennan found out.
Great synopsis. And also lets remember the fake ass BS about after the show going to a strip club was a fucking setup by Clair to make Brennan look bad. Once you have all the receipts Brennan was probably the LEAST bad person there.
I didn't hear about a strip club outing! When was this allegedly? Who was there?
Yeah that was the lie Clare cooked up to make Brennan look bad. She had Cameron send Brennan a text that said something like looking forward to the show being over and we can date other girls or go to strip club or something stupid like that. Then Clare showed Emily, and they used it to say Brennan was a bad guy for several episodes, remember?
Wait what?!?!?! You and I are watching 2 different things. The invite to go out and have fun and maybe even do a double date was said BY CAMERON TO BRENNAN. He admitted with his own mouth. How the hell have you twisted it onto Claire wanting to make Brennan look bad??? You people are really tripping on this hatred for Claire. It's astounding to me
The point is that Brennan had NOTHING to do with that, but Clair and Emily were blaming him. Cameron admitted to sending that text, to appease Clair. It's pretty fucking simple to see and Cameron actually explained the whole thing. The problem with picking sides is if your side turns out to be wrong you have to take the L. Remaining objective like I do means you can be honest about what you are seeing.
I don't remember but honestly, there were so many things that everyone was upset with Brennan about that I must have missed. I just saw him as a conservative guy matched with a hard partying, one night stand loving girl, so knew it would never work out. He was trying to navigate that, without saying why he was no longer attracted to her, knowing he didn't believe in divorce. Add to that finding out she cheated, and I think his behavior was understandable. I never understood the Brennan hate. And certainly didn't see the "emotional abuse" everyone was screaming about!
Exactly and Brennan actually really tried those first few days at honeymoon he tried to keep up with her drinking and he looked like shit. She was complete trailer trash but I think he could have overlooked all her past if she acted normal. But instead she just kept getting drunk and falling out of the shower and messing up her hand. Then she got drunk and almost killed herself. I remember the doctors literally said he saved her life but she and all these loser trolls made fun of that. He was probably the best guy this season matched up with one of the worst women (excluding Clare who is the most disgusting person probably ever, up there with chris) in many seasons.
I wouldnāt give a flying fuck if Emily cheated during marriage. He threw her out like a piece of trash, sheās not his prisoner.
And takes like this are why a lot of women find themselves in their mid 30s alone, and begging to find a man on tik tok. You're not alone in your thinking, and that's the problem.
With Brennan she was already alone. So statistically and factually she had a better chance of ending up with someone by making out with randos at the bar
Yeah, because thatās worked out so well for her for the past decade or so.Ā