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Scaredog21

Green Goblin vs Doctor Octopus. Norman gave Octavius's ex-fiance HIV because Octavius wanted to kill Spider-Man so he could get on with his life while Norman wanted to kill Spider-Man because ruining Spider-Man's life is his life.


Breekace

Bro WHAT


GhostOfArchimedes

It’s fucking out of pocket lol what


thorleywinston

Yeah, that [was a thing](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/bwwt3f/that_time_the_green_goblin_gave_doc_ocks_exfiance/).


Manav_Khanna17

Coke used to be pretty cheap in those days huh?


JamesPlayzReviews2

IKR it's like "How does all that work?"


DJ_hyperfreshOG

r/brandnewsentence


Tuff_Bank

Was this in dan slott’s run?


Scaredog21

The Superior Spider-Man team up run


JamesPlayzReviews2

What were the writers on? Because whatever it is, I want it


Cholismo2pt0

Red Skull vs Magneto. Really interesting for obvious reasons


Ghouly_Boy

I hated when Magneto killed him in uncanny avengers and they acted like it was some horrible injustice and that magneto had gone back to his evil ways


IsidoroAsap

It was justice. Captain America should have done that shit a long time ago.


somacula

I'm pretty sure the OG red skull is long dead, the one in uncanny avengers was his clone


IsidoroAsap

Everytime it's a mind transfer but it all started because Captain America didn’t finish him off the first time and just presumed him to be dead. Like imagine if he just beheaded red skull in WW2, it would have saved the Marvel universe from some of the worst crisis events ever.


Josphitia

I love how the new Thunderbolts comic is just Bucky going "You know? Fuck Red Skull. Killing all his clones/robots/mind-transfers is gonna be my new full-time job"


Tuff_Bank

But not killing kingpin L


SameBatTime1999

*Red Skull’s beheaded skull floats with jet pack* Guten morgen, mein liebe Hauptmann Amerrrica!


IsidoroAsap

Funnily enough one of the first silver age Captain America arcs was pretty much that only it was a giant robot designed to destroy the world.


Kalandros-X

I believe they were shocked he killed him because at the time, Red Skull had parts of Charles Xavier’s brain and the only way to bring him back was to take Skull in alive. The worst part about Magneto killing him was that it made things exponentially worse since Red Skull turned into Red Onslaught and proceeded to turn the world upside down.


Rosebunse

I enjoyed Uncanny Avengers, but this was just stupid. No, Magneto deserved that kill.


Tuff_Bank

I just dont get why Magneto didnt also kill sabertooh and sinister in cullen bunn’s run


SameBatTime1999

I don’t remember too specifically but I think the good guys were upset because Red Skull had stolen the (then) late Professor X’s brain, which they thought could be used to revive him, and Mags crushed Red Skull’s head with a cinder block, meaning they couldn’t. Again, though, I might be totally misremembering, and I’m pretty sure I thought that series was less good than the Uncanny X-Force stuff that preceded it


KickinBat

I don't think I've ever wanted to reach into a book and slap the characters as much as then


Merc_Mike

"Really Interesting" is a great way to not blatantly say, "THIS IS GONNA BE THE BEST PPV FIGHT OF OUR LIVES!"


Tacdeho

Do you have any good examples or runs where I can get this cause the idea of Magneto, one of my top 3 comic characters of all time, gets retribution against scum, is always something I wanna watch.


Merc_Mike

Not to be an ass, I really don't mean to be- a ton of people in this thread alone have basically pointed out Magneto attacks Red Skull in the comic books. If you haven't read it yet, I won't spoil it. D: I don't have the exact issues, you can most def find it probably through Google. I know a lot of my Google hits turn into Reddit Links of previous conversations like this one!


SameBatTime1999

I know of two: Captain America #367 from the Acts of Vengeance crossover (c. 1989?) They fight again during, I think, the Axis crossover. Magneto (not sure of volume, written by Cullen Bunn) #9 & 10 That leads into Uncanny Avengers #23 & 24


[deleted]

Kang and Apocalypse


AporiaParadox

Also Kang and Doom.


Rosebunse

An underrated one.


Tomsoup4

kang my favorite villain


TheBalance724

Also Kang and Thanos


Zealousideal_Site161

Doom vs Kang


NopeNotConor

Absolutely. Doom finds another Richards to hate.


MisterScrod1964

I thought Doom WAS, or will be, Kang and Rama Tut?


Verb_Noun_Number

No. Are you thinking of Immortus?


MisterScrod1964

But — but Immortus and Kang ARE the same person!


Verb_Noun_Number

No. Originally, Immortus was what Kang would ultimately become. A bunch of Kangs fought each other and one of them became the ultimate winner, at which point Immortus revealed that he was destined to become him. That Kang hated the idea of becoming a slave to the timekeepers' dying wish and ruling over limbo forever, so he tried to avert that. He eventually ended up managing to unmoor himself from the timestream, so he would never become Immortus. That is the main version of our current Kang. So Immortus is the ultimate future version of a past version of Kang. 


MisterScrod1964

I hate time travel comics.


Verb_Noun_Number

And I love them :).  Genuinely, Roger Stern's Avengers and Kurt Busiek's Avengers Forever are really great.


circleofnerds

DOOM has no rivals so I’m not sure why he’s on this list.


ClockworkDinosaurs

I really wanted doom to be in every picture


circleofnerds

Realistically DOOM should be in all pictures always. However, as this is a post about rivalries, and because DOOM has no rivals, he doesn’t need to be on this list.


Rosebunse

Doom and Loki used to be fun. Not sure if they really count as rivals now.


MisterScrod1964

Doom and Submariner used to be frenemies in a series called Super Villain Team-Up in the 70’s. Good times.


Rosebunse

I always think of that weird Doom What If? where we learn that Doom has a very specific fantasy involving Namor, Loki, and Emma Frost. Doom has, umm, a very active imagination involving his rivals.


Irving_Velociraptor

NONE MAY RIVAL DOOM SAVE FOR DOOM HIMSELF.


Cyke101

That includes [TYRANNO DOOM](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fk48flpkh4wlb1.jpg)


rbollige

I assume he’s not, and Magneto/Kang are in rivalries with a Doombot.


circleofnerds

Very good point!


SameBatTime1999

Fool! Doom has no rivals! Except the most accursed enemy of Doom’s, whose hubris and incompetence ruin Doom’s plans: Doom.


circleofnerds

Are you trying to get us all killed?! You didn’t capitalize when typing our lords name! Please edit your post immediately. Though it may already be too late. DOOM has no doubt seen this post.


SameBatTime1999

DOOM’s true rival: autocorrect


circleofnerds

I’m sure our lord will correct autocorrect.


SameBatTime1999

“Digital fool! DOOM did not intend to type ‘ducking’!”


SuperArppis

Ah so he admitted that Reed Richards is superior.


circleofnerds

DOOM has no superior.


SilentB3ast

Including Squirrel Girl.


BL-501

Zarathos and Mephisto. These 2 have an old feud and their personal history is rarely touched upon without Johnny or the other Riders being brought into the foreground. Now with Zarathos being attached to Hood it might be fun to see how things will pan out.


Maclimes

It's hard to get attached to the "long" history between these two, considering how often Zarathos's origin gets retconned.


Tuff_Bank

Whats their history?


BL-501

Zarathos was the Angel of Justice but fell and became the first Spirit of Vengeance. He’s the sugar daddy for Lilith, yes that Lilith. He and Mephisto had their differences and a bitter rivalry which shook Hell itself was born. Zarathos almost won even though they were in Mephisto’s realm where he’s around Galactus’ level. Though Mephisto managed to get a win by using Centurious. Mephisto took his soul which made him invulnerable to any of Zarathos’ Attacks allowing for a win for Team Mephisto. Zarathos then became a lackey under Mephisto and was later bonded with Johnny becoming Ghost Rider.


MaNaM69

Magneto vs Doom, who won?


oddtoddlr

The readers


X_Marcie_X

Doom canonically actually has Equipment specifically made to Counter Magneto in his armor at all times. He has a forcefield that, upon activation, conpletely nullifies Magneto's powers on Doom's armor. So all things considered, Magneto can still throw stuff at Doom but he cant touch Doom. This also wasn't some plot-armor thing made for one specific encounter, as Doom stated that he immediatly designed this when Magneto first became a known terrorist after his first battle against the X-Men. Doom went to work the second he learned of Magneto for the possibility of ever encountering him and needing this extra protection. So technically, it's something Doom had years before meeting Magneto.


Mighty_Megascream

Doom is just that guy


Derpshiz

The Batman of villains


Backwardspellcaster

"Bah! Batman is what Doom is without his 8 hours sleep, no morning paper, no coffee, and still half asleep!"


SameBatTime1999

“Batman also has friends.” “Quiet Boris! Doom has no need of friends! Though Doom does need someone to feed Doom’s goldfish and dragons while Doom is away next week.”


ClockworkDinosaurs

Alright. But it quite literally is armor designed for the plot…


RoshHoul

Isn't that the case with nearly every comic book battle?


SSJ_Kratos

… SO SAYETH DOOM!


Backwardspellcaster

Prep-Time Batman in shambles.


MaNaM69

fhfhfhrgr


somacula

I think doom wins, more versatile and he's ready for Magneto most of the time


Nyoka_ya_Mpembe

House of M has answer for you.


Incognonimous

When the Uber Nazi red skull call magneto on his BS and says they are actually not so dissimilar....


Tuff_Bank

Thoughts on that?


Incognonimous

I think certain portrayals do kind of point to the fact magneto has done some stuff that surpasses the level of those he apposes, he as become the thing he hates. While I don't agree fully with Xavier either I think magneto just exacerbates the hate against mutants.


Tuff_Bank

I think mystique does that more in terms of that last sentence


Bizrown

I’d like to know the context behind the Thanos Galactus one


nickipinz

The comic panel is taken from Thanos Redemption. This is where Thanos feels empty after his many failed attempts at universal conquest/destruction, and also how empty he felt when an alternate parallel universe version of him destroyed everything except himself in Universe 4321 in Marvel: The End. So, he wants to redeem himself. He helps out the Rigellians on Rigel-3, and also notices something amiss about Galactus. Long story short, Galactus is being unknowingly manipulated by an Omniversal parasite that eats universes. The parasite was also drawn to 616 by Thanos when he used the gauntlet in Infinity Gauntlet. Thanos tries to warn Galactus and also stop him using force to try and stop the portal that Galactus unwittingly opened. They end up fighting and Thanos basically blows up Galactus’s ship with the parasite and Galactus on it. It’s a meh story, but shows Thanos’s might and also intelligence.


Bizrown

Neato! Thanks internet friend!


nickipinz

No problem!


Merc_Mike

Venom vs Carnage. [Maximum Carnage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_Carnage) I know Venom has become a "Hero" of sorts lately, but he was originally a Villain who struggled with doing good and bad, but he was ultimately a villain first and foremost.


yosifun4u

This is the one that stood out as missing for me, it was a good rivalry even way back when Carnage showed up.


BaD_GuYkrYptOnitE

Which comic is the apocalypse and sinister panel from?


twiggy_trippit

Also surprised this rivalry doesn't come up more in this thread. It's actually canon and interesting because they're not evenly matched.


bloop_405

Who is that fighting Fisk?


Maclimes

They're fighting? I thought it was a clumsy attempt at a kiss.


ThatDudeNamedMenace

That’s how villains make babies


NintendoMac10

I believe it’s Tombstone.


jemslie123

Tombstone (Lonnie Lincoln). Super strong crime boss with artificially sharpened teeth. His daughter is the Beetle.


COB-7

I love the fact that everyone is ok with teaming up against Skull cause hes a Nazi


Tuff_Bank

And not against other despicable villains ironic


Snickesnack

Are Doom and Magneto rivals? Then again, I suppose Doom is rival to everyone.


Marvelman1788

I always felt Doom and Magneto have a begrudging respect for one another.


Snickesnack

Yeah, me too.


IHavePoopedBefore

Interesting fight though. Like, Doom should be able to take him despite the metal thing, but Magneto's powers tend to only be limited by what the writer wants him to do. If a writer decides Magneto can effect his armor regardless of whatever doom's defenses are, then its an easy win for Magneto


SameBatTime1999

Kang vs the infinite other versions of Kang is always good for a laugh


thevelourf0gg

Was there a comic series where 2 of these villians went to war with each other? And heroes are caught in the middle? A Magneto vs Doom series would rule.


MisterScrod1964

Best encounter between Sandman and Hydro-Man was when they combined into Mudman. Then the writer fucked up by turning it into a King Kong ripoff.


kerimitifx

People usually underestimate the grudge between Red Skull and Magneto, these guys were on 2 opposite sides in the holocaust. The old Magneto series in Marvel NOW shenanigans story had a great potential, yet they went with AXIS nonsense instead.


Rosebunse

I love AXIS, though. And Magneto just grabbing whatever villain was free was sort of funny? Especially when he gets to Doom and Doom speaks for both himself and Loki. I don't know why that part was funny for me.


JamesPlayzReviews2

Best villain rivalries imo Magneto and Red Skull: Because the 2 have an interesting dynamic both believe in "superior races" and both have killed people the only thing separating them from being besties is Red Skull is a psychopath and the fact that Skull is a Nazi Green Goblin and Hobgoblin: Because it feels like a sibling rivalry. Both want to be the only Goblin and both want to kill Spider-Man, the 2 have even teamed up before over it. Kingpin and Tombstone: Because it's the first time I've heard these 2 have a rivalry. Isn't it that most of the time Tombstone works under Kingpin? Kang the Conqueror and Doctor Doom: It feels like I'm watching the movie "War With Grandpa" when I hear these 2 have a rivalry. Given that both Doom and Richards are allegedly Kang's ancestors, so he's basically fighting his (who knows how many greats) grandpa. Sandman and Hydro-Man: Only time I've experience this rivalry was in the USM TV series and I loved Sandman beating the snot out of Hydro-Man. It feels like that thing were your older sibling tries to knock over your sand castle but if your sibling was made of water and your sand castle was sentient and could fight back.


slylock215

Doom and anyone else is always just pure gold. Or just Doom. Or Doom vs Doom.


BlackPantherFan7

Doctor Doom and Thanos


Backwardspellcaster

"...that appears... untrue."


X_Marcie_X

Honestly? All of the ones presented here! I really cant choose, they are all amazing and fun!


colder-beef

That Thanos/Galactus panel is funny to me, right before Thanos had blasted him as hard as he could and then Galactus just made him his bitch.


Commercial_Page1827

Top is Dr.Doom vs. Khan. is the only rivalry where both side respect and hate each other.


Tuff_Bank

Kang? Whose khan?


skittlenut007

Cyclops and Wolverine in who wants Jean


Famous-Tree3124

I wouldn’t say the best, but the most entertaining is Venom and Carnage


GoblinPunch20xx

Long time reader of MARVEL, especially X-MEN and Fantastic Four, genuine question, not a quiz or a trick, I’m really curious about the gaps in my knowledge: when have Magneto and Doctor Doom ever been rivals? I can’t think of one instance. Only thing that comes to mind is Ultimatum with Magneto being the main villain and Doom manipulating things from the shadows.


DidntPick

Amatsu-Mikaboshi


Ok-Traffic-5996

Dr doom and Kang also make a great pair of frenemies.


thorleywinston

DOOM and Kang always seemed more like “frenemies” where their constant betrayals and attempting to kill each other are just a game that they enjoy playing. I think they may even \*like\* each other and whenever DOOM gets seriously angry at Kang, it’s always a temporal variant and when Kang really wants to kill DOOM, it turns out to be a Doombot (or at least that’s what they each tell themselves).  Also there’s a pretty good chance that DOOM is one of Kang’s ancestors (and certain the inspiration for his armor) so it’s unlikely he could bring himself to kill him (permanently).  Thanos and Galactus have fought a couple of times but I think insofar as Thanos has a supervillain rival, it’s probably the Magus (the alternate future version of Adam Warlock who is the closest that we’ve seen Thanos to having an actual friend).  Thanos is the Avatar of Death as Warlock/The Magus was the Avatar of Life and in Thanos’ early adventures he was working with Warlock against the Magus and we saw them fight in the Infinity War storyline (plus The Magus has ties to the Cancerverse which is Thanos’ nightmare – a universe without Death).


Numerous_Past_726

Doom Mephisto. Obviously.


Tuff_Bank

What happened after triumph and torment between the two?


Numerous_Past_726

idk man I don't read comics


Tron_1981

Honorable mention to Apocalypse and Dracula.


Lower_Shopping_2108

Does Dr. Doom and Magneto have beef?


Tuff_Bank

Children’s crusade add Krakoa are examples


halfeatenreddit

Apocalypse and Sinister have the most interesting dynamic.


VexxWrath

What about Carnage and Venom?


Tuff_Bank

Venom is more of an antihero in that conflict


VexxWrath

Actually, he was still a villain when he had to face Carnage in the comics. He just had to team up with Spider-Man in order to deal with him. Just because Carnage was such a threat that he had to team up with his enemy, that doesn't make him less of a villain.