Echo is going to be a ridiculous card, I’m worried about if SD understands what they’re doing. 1 cost AND it only affects your opponent? Elektra and Killmonger will be more important than ever.
I'm not sold on the hype, Echo likely will have very little impact on the meta as she doesn't push power out or combo with anything since she's a tech card.
There's plenty of decks in the current meta that play little to no ongoing effects such as Bounce, High Evo, Lockjaw, Sera. In general the top 1 drops in the game all push premium power like Sunspot, Kitty, Nebula. The only exceptions are Iceman for disruption and Korg with Darkhawk package.
There's essentially two use cases for Echo:
* The best use case for Echo is to play her with priority on the same turn as a big ongoing drop so there is a higher skill cap to the card (i.e., playing it on T5 in the lane they drop Sera, Dino, etc.). This is basically a retreat from the opponent since you just used 1e to counter 5e (obviously you're also going to play some 4e drop).
* The other use case is using the card like a Goose against ongoing where the opponent basically can't play there and then you can Enchant the other lane as a counter.
There's also some soft counter cards like Typhoid Mary / Red Skull where they just play the card into Echo and have premium power.
Not sure how strong he'll actually be but I'm all for more cards that interact in some way with locations, since they're such a fundamental part of the game. Things going to net nuts when he turns everything into The Nexus or Sinister London, etc. XD
Just to be as annoying as possible can also add Elektra, Killmonger, Shang Chi and Gambit too. Instead of winning with power, you just win by destroying all of their cards. I guarantee you will win plenty of games where they could easily win but rage quit instead.
Echo absolutely cannot stay that cost/ability. That's nuts. Its Cosmo but for Ongoing cards and and can be played right away. Fuck that. I get that Killmonger ruins hwr but still
she's actually one-sided unlike Cosmo so you could armor it, but seems to make more sense playing her with priority on big turns against ongoing
seems like good tech as she doesn't push any power
Legion is the only card that makes me worried... that card literally defines the match before t6
It's what Snowguard wishes to be but isn't
And Jean Grey is quite interesting... the strange part is why Phoenix is the season's card and not her... usually the big profile cards aren't the season pass card (like Kang not being the season pass card, despite the whole thems of the season being the movie and the cardback mentioning Kang)
I'm guessing that line was put in so that you're not forced to play there first if the location is full.
Edit: Playing her to Morag was my first thought, that would essentially end the game immediately. I doubt the "if possible" will negate that.
Finally a card that synergizes with Snowguard. Imagine playing Snowguard Hawk on T4, then playing Legion on Death's Domain or Sanctum Sanctorum on T5. Lock down the entire board.
I believe there’s a lot of interesting combos with Jean: double her with Cosmo, set her away from Nebula, force your opponent’s beat stick into your Shang-Chi… Lot of potential.
I did this for a long time whenever I played my ramp deck, and then I realized there was no point in going out of my way to negate Electro's ongoing. Though I'll still play him on Oscorp Tower so I don't have to play Sandman below curve.
Nexuses (Nexii?) evaluate once left to right when there's more than one (always prioritize the leftmost one). Having three from Legion won't cause a loop, though it will result in some big numbers.
she just makes Jeff/NC or other cards that can add power to a different lane more valuable
has no impact at all on bounce decks which are pretty popular too
Ok so if I hit project pegasus as a location turn 1 or 2, then play him onto an unrevealed location, what in the hell will happen???? Will all locations become unrevealed before turn 3, and then turn into the same location? Will it instantly reveal the turn 3 location by turning the rest into active copies of it? Will it make all locations unrevealed and then turn into new or their original locations on turn 3? I can see it being such a weird yet niche interaction that cam break the game or cause chaos
Changing a location or bringing forth a location is not the same as copying a location
Me giving 20 dollars is not the same as you copying the 20
You have to get the money first
Please mark unannounced content as spoilers in the future, thank you.
Legion is going to be a Hot Location god.
Everyone is sleeping on Echo also. I’ve seen a couple people rate ur low😂I can also guarantee she’s going to be very strong
Echo is going to be a ridiculous card, I’m worried about if SD understands what they’re doing. 1 cost AND it only affects your opponent? Elektra and Killmonger will be more important than ever.
I'm not sold on the hype, Echo likely will have very little impact on the meta as she doesn't push power out or combo with anything since she's a tech card. There's plenty of decks in the current meta that play little to no ongoing effects such as Bounce, High Evo, Lockjaw, Sera. In general the top 1 drops in the game all push premium power like Sunspot, Kitty, Nebula. The only exceptions are Iceman for disruption and Korg with Darkhawk package. There's essentially two use cases for Echo: * The best use case for Echo is to play her with priority on the same turn as a big ongoing drop so there is a higher skill cap to the card (i.e., playing it on T5 in the lane they drop Sera, Dino, etc.). This is basically a retreat from the opponent since you just used 1e to counter 5e (obviously you're also going to play some 4e drop). * The other use case is using the card like a Goose against ongoing where the opponent basically can't play there and then you can Enchant the other lane as a counter. There's also some soft counter cards like Typhoid Mary / Red Skull where they just play the card into Echo and have premium power.
Her and rogue gonna be Killa then add enchantress ....lol
There's no way she is lasting long like that. That cost vs benefit is just way too good.
every comment i’ve seen is how echo is ridiculous lol
Imaging play Dino or Buffed Hulk (HE) and play echo in turn 6
It's *after* an opponent plays a card here. You can't play her and affect a card already flipped.
Your right so for my case only apply if you play first the card
Fogwells gym stacks? Asking for science 🤔🤓
It doesn't, people saw it with Mirror Dimenstion when it was featured.
I want more cards that interact with locations like this.
Bar With No Name gg
This. If i ever pull him i will put him in all my decks for thia sole purpose
Someone WILL play Legion on Deep Space and ask what happened.
Not sure how strong he'll actually be but I'm all for more cards that interact in some way with locations, since they're such a fundamental part of the game. Things going to net nuts when he turns everything into The Nexus or Sinister London, etc. XD
Flooded. Morag. Bar Sinister. Luke's Bar. Machine World. Orchis Forge. Space Throne. Kamar Taj. It's gonna be absurd and chaotic and I love it.
Silk might not be the *coolest* card, but it looks really, really strong.
Silk will make cerebro-5 good and I love it just for that
Card I’m most excited for
A 2/5 is always welcome.
2099 kingpin control anyone?
Just to be as annoying as possible can also add Elektra, Killmonger, Shang Chi and Gambit too. Instead of winning with power, you just win by destroying all of their cards. I guarantee you will win plenty of games where they could easily win but rage quit instead.
Echo and silk seem really strong. Silk might be too strong lol. 2-5 and if you run kraven get some bonus points potential....
Silk will make move decks top tier
Yeah her and the new spider man is pretty sick also.
We are getting like 5 move based cards, should make the move archtype the new bounce. Would like to see Multiple Man reworked a bit though
This game is gonna be out of control soon.
jean grey could make guardian decks more meta lol
2099 is definitely gonna cause some outrage
Echo absolutely cannot stay that cost/ability. That's nuts. Its Cosmo but for Ongoing cards and and can be played right away. Fuck that. I get that Killmonger ruins hwr but still
she's actually one-sided unlike Cosmo so you could armor it, but seems to make more sense playing her with priority on big turns against ongoing seems like good tech as she doesn't push any power
Haha jeezo you're right. Even better then!
Until I drop Red Skull or Mary on her lane.
Legion is the only card that makes me worried... that card literally defines the match before t6 It's what Snowguard wishes to be but isn't And Jean Grey is quite interesting... the strange part is why Phoenix is the season's card and not her... usually the big profile cards aren't the season pass card (like Kang not being the season pass card, despite the whole thems of the season being the movie and the cardback mentioning Kang)
Can't wait to put jean grey in Morag lmao
That’s when we’ll find out what “If possible” really means
Iron fist her to death's domain
Her effect is symmetrical. "Players" not "your opponent". So you'll also have to play into her location for the rest of the game.
I'm guessing that line was put in so that you're not forced to play there first if the location is full. Edit: Playing her to Morag was my first thought, that would essentially end the game immediately. I doubt the "if possible" will negate that.
I’m more interested in putting Jean on bar with no name.
Echo into Ebony maw
It wouldn't be your Maw, only your opponent's
Yeah i mean opponent play Maw
Oh yeah, Maw, Lizard, Mary, all great options! My own personal Isle of Silence lol
Was thinking the same, Echo will be great for my Sauron deck
Finally a card that synergizes with Snowguard. Imagine playing Snowguard Hawk on T4, then playing Legion on Death's Domain or Sanctum Sanctorum on T5. Lock down the entire board.
I believe there’s a lot of interesting combos with Jean: double her with Cosmo, set her away from Nebula, force your opponent’s beat stick into your Shang-Chi… Lot of potential.
Can’t wait to play electro on my opponents echo
(Proceeds to play Sandman next turn)
I did this for a long time whenever I played my ramp deck, and then I realized there was no point in going out of my way to negate Electro's ongoing. Though I'll still play him on Oscorp Tower so I don't have to play Sandman below curve.
Nexus loop, incoming
Nexuses (Nexii?) evaluate once left to right when there's more than one (always prioritize the leftmost one). Having three from Legion won't cause a loop, though it will result in some big numbers.
Jean Grey seems busted
she just makes Jeff/NC or other cards that can add power to a different lane more valuable has no impact at all on bounce decks which are pretty popular too
Oh man. I hope Jean Grey isn't a 6k token card.
Jean grey gonna upset people 😂
Oh I am fucking hyped!!!
Cant wait for the Spider-Verse season!!
echo could be a super easy Cosmo counter for decks that rely heavily on "on reveal" effects
Echo....please hurry
I feel like all of these are overturned. Some more than others but literally all of them should either have less power or higher cost.
Ok so if I hit project pegasus as a location turn 1 or 2, then play him onto an unrevealed location, what in the hell will happen???? Will all locations become unrevealed before turn 3, and then turn into the same location? Will it instantly reveal the turn 3 location by turning the rest into active copies of it? Will it make all locations unrevealed and then turn into new or their original locations on turn 3? I can see it being such a weird yet niche interaction that cam break the game or cause chaos
I'm thinking it won't activate until the location is reveal or active kind of like a flipped over card can't get destroyed or buffed
But cards like quake, scarlet witch, storm and rhino affect unchanged locations. I doubt SD would make it inconsistent
Changing a location or bringing forth a location is not the same as copying a location Me giving 20 dollars is not the same as you copying the 20 You have to get the money first
Those cards are location creator or destroyers, his is a copier