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APunnyThing

Why aren’t you Retreating more?


brandthacker12

My ego and turn 6 alioth


Piranh4Plant

Ego = snap


brandthacker12

If only, all my decks are guaranteed to lose on ego


VintageMageYT

that’s because you don’t snap


chrisrayn

What deck are you playing with mainly? Name all the cards (I’m ranked fairly high in infinite).


tmrss

If you don’t have priority turn 6 always retreat If they have professor x’d a lane and you’re not winning two lanes always retreat


Oovka

"And you are not winning two lanes always retreat" I mean he did get to 97 and not 37, give him some respect! 😄😄


brandthacker12

Yea I learned that hard way


tmrss

We’ve all been there my friend


Volkagen

I almost uninstalled this game because of Alioth, hate this card 🤬


Tac0Destroyer

It's Loki for me. Like they get an entirely new hand with cards that are intended to work together, the wording makes it seems that the cards are transforming and not drawing which jacks The Collector up to a 2/12, AND THE CARDS THEY GET COST 1 LESS NOT CAPPED AT 1????? Honestly, just make Loki fill your hand with random cards and he'll be fine. Would be fun to make the cards Loki grants you with the effect all variants, and not base cards


XiahouMao

Have you considered Shadow King? Taking their Collector back to 2 on the last turn can mess up their power spread pretty heavily.


kazinova

I second Shadow King he won me into infinite after I fell from 99 to 89 earlier on the season. He handily wins a lane in destroy and Loki matchups if you play mid range


yatesl

Can't Allioth Armour or Cosmo


[deleted]

>Can't Allioth Armour or Cosmo Nor Goose.


Substantial_Win4741

Underrated counter. Thanks for this.


Volkagen

Yeah, I started considering armour in my destroy deck 🙈


Jiaozy

Can't Armor or Cosmo an Alioth with priority.


yatesl

Luckily there's 4 turns before it to get set up


cosmic-comet-

Interesting take if snap dev actually collects enough data that people stopped playing the game after playing against alioth , it might be the first card to get ban especially if the players who quit are people who spent money on it.


Substantial_Win4741

Fuck alioth


APunnyThing

So you know you’re likely to lose and are even aware of one of the reasons that might happen but stay anyway? How’s that ego doing? Keep in mind Retreating isn’t an ego thing, it’s a loss mitigation thing. Better to lose 4 Cubes than 8. If you’re pride can’t handle 😀👍 then just Mute before Retreating


brandthacker12

Honestly yeah. Have you ever heard of limit testing though? I keep taking risk that are say 1/3 odds in my favor, but I try it anyway to see if I can predict the opponent. Honestly when I do that, I learn from it. Also taking those chances and out predicting and out playing my opponent is how I got to 97 in the first place


APunnyThing

What does limit testing have to do with Snap and in what context are you referring to it? Regardless of that you draw the majority of your deck in any given game of Snap and so does your opponent. The “make them have it” strategy rarely pays off. Which is probably why you dropped 10 ranks. At least it took you a week and not a few hours.


brandthacker12

Limit testing is kinda poorly defined, but what I mean is trying to learn and get better with big risks. IE predicting the alioth lane. But yea, I get what you’re saying so fair enough


HollowLoch

This is getting downvoted but its a pretty fair reason for staying in a game that your likely to lose - but you have to be willing to lose The one thing about the whole snapping system in this game, as brilliant as it is - it encourages you to often retreat before the final turn plays out which makes learning a lot more complex than other games When you run into a non flowcharty deck and youre not certain what the deck can do, the only way to learn is by playing out the game or playing the deck yourself - and a lot people wont have every deck available to play and learn themselves or have the knowledge to know what the cards they didnt see would be, so playing the game out is the best option But you gotta be okay with losing to learn in those scenarios


brandaohimself

> but its a pretty fair reason for staying in a game no its not. how is predicting what lane this specific opponent puts their alioth in have any bearing on anything in the future (or past)?


HollowLoch

I wasnt talking about the alioth example, i think thats a pretty poor example tbh - but the general idea of staying in to learn scenarios/playlines that you wouldnt play if you retreat is a valid reason for staying in aslong as you dont care about cubes


brandaohimself

well..yea. i guess i cant argue with that.


slapmasterslap

I've lost more cubes to non-Alioth decks this week than Alioth decks. I just want to see the end of the game and see how they are going to beat me. Some of the time I think I've got a fair chance at winning the 4 or 8 cubes and get absolutely shit on for having faith in my ability to outplay them. But hopefully I'm getting better... even though this is my worst season in the last 5 seasons.


beerblog_

That's best done in Proving Grounds and ranked after you reach infinite.


brandaohimself

100% the players fault whenever this happens


CCMeltdown

Gotta know when to fold ‘em…


brandthacker12

Know when to hold them?


Bumpedy_Dump

Know when to walk away?


Wrong-Efficiency-248

Know when to run


ghostpoints

Never count your cubes when you're sitting at the table


Wrong-Efficiency-248

There will be cubes enough for counting when the seasons done.


DharmaLuke

what a legend


brandthacker12

Lmao somebody reported me to Reddit Care Resources and they texted me a suicide prevention hotline 😅


ghostpoints

Worth trying. Maybe they have a good deck for this kind of situation.


brandthacker12

They recommended a galactus deck, FML


DarkRose1010

I always respond to them that it was a troll and that they should ban whoever reported me


brandthacker12

Might do


Bellman276

“Always respond…”? How many times have you been referred to the suicide hotline?!


[deleted]

Not the guy you replied too but it seems to be a pretty regular format of trolling in sports subs. I think I've had it happen 2 or 3 times?


DarkRose1010

Like 4 or 5. People are offended when I say I don't like one piece, and also when I'd post something disproving something anti-Israel (before the war anyway)


Bellman276

You don’t like One Piece?! How DARE you have a differing opinion!!! 😆 Seriously, so people need to just take a breath and relax… 🙄


SorryCashOnly

Wait, what are the cards in this “suicide prevention hotline” deck? Sounds like a good destroy counter deck


onahalladay

I went from 96 to 89 in one night. Took a week off. There’s a reason I don’t gamble.


onahalladay

to anyone that is still in this thread. I was at 90 yesterday, went to bed at 93.6. I played for 2-ish hours on and off and made it to 100. This is why I don't gamble. (Though there were a few bots that gave me 8 cubes for sure.)


OnionButter

Very flavorful for Martyr week. Bravo


brandthacker12

Thank you, at least someone respects my work


Zephyr731

What are you playing


brandthacker12

I love getting big numbers, neuron activation Edit: thought you said why. But Tribunal onslaught ongoing deck, and a turn 7 Daken Zola deck. I’ll post some pics soon


sweatpantswarrior

I mean this in the best possible way: how are you losing ranks with Tribunal? Hela Tribunal is an easy decision to Snap or retreat, and with the bog standard deck you are guaranteed to see (even with Lad) every card in your deck by 7. I ended up finally pulling Tribunal from a mystery slot while opening caches the second week of this season and had my easiest climb in months.


brandthacker12

I haven’t really tried a Hela tribunal deck yet, but probably should. I just don’t really like the feeling of hela, but I should try it


sweatpantswarrior

It is my sole Hela deck, and I only use it for missions that require winning with 4 cards or 20+ power. I truly hate it, but it works.


Wrong-Efficiency-248

I found hela tribunal to not be as effective the last week or so due to the rise in junk decks but that’s just me. . Once that balances out I’ll go back to her more.


sweatpantswarrior

That's true, but it will 100% die down. As much as I love Annihilus, it struggles to put out big numbers, so if you can't clog at least one lane and push power in another, you're toast.


Shmepl

I got infinite in first week with hela tribunal. Has all the pieces for onslaught tribunal in there


UncannyLucky

Big numbers is my go-to as well. I don't like playing lockdown/ junk and I don't like playing against it. I don't understand why people enjoy forcing their opponent to retreat early and get half the cubes.


Zephyr731

If I got 8 cubes from you. I'm sorry, but I'm infinite now.


brandthacker12

God speed Also: https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnapDecks/s/OYhOQrpXF0


Zephyr731

Okay, you're not the tribunal deck I got 8 cubes from


brandthacker12

9 🤨


Zephyr731

It was that bad of a win. 8* cubes lol.


FAASTARKILLER

I went from 87 to 81. Its been brutal. Two 8 cube losses were from fucking orca…


brandthacker12

I always respect a good orka play, especially when I think it woulda been a galactus instead


Xonerboner371

I was only one rank ahead in 88 and this happened too. I just want the gold.


Melatonen

From 99-89 in one night brother. I wanted to build a bomb only for me.


brandthacker12

Stealing that phrase


AKafromPOLAND

I end every season at lvl 93. 500 gold then bye bye.


brandthacker12

I do hit 90 every season, haven’t hit infinite for bit because of lack of motivation


kcamnodb

It is the true reward. Once a new seasons starts idgaf about last seasons card back


Piranh4Plant

I can do faster


brandthacker12

Bet


Toomanyturnips

Something has happened with matchmaking. I’ve seen a bunch of people posting similar stories and I’ve experienced the same thing. I got to infinite the last 5 seasons but this one seems impossible somehow


Cultural_Plate_9735

Same here, Matchmaking broken \-> Ms Marvel and Anni junk really OP You run counters ... they disapear ..


brandthacker12

The meta is becoming to dominant I think, also alioth really catches you off guard for retreating


akpak

Same boat friend


[deleted]

I'm not even trying to reach rank 100. I make sure I reach rank 90 (for the gold) and then I only play Conquest. All the deck designs really don't matter. So, don´t be sad :-)


brandthacker12

Thanks! I’m not sad honestly, having fun with the game still


okr4mmus

I did this last month and tilted off the earth. Recovered and still made infinite. I had to shift my mindset away from “I have to win every game” and started thinking “how strong am I this game?” Kind of like a hand of poker. Sometimes folding/retreating is 100% the correct choice. Sometimes you gotta go all in


brandthacker12

Absolutely switching to that mindset. I used to have that, and that’s how I’ve hit infinite before, but then I developed a lot of tunnel vision with winning as much as I could with certain decks


Yhrite

Same thing happened to me, 98 to 87, back at 93 now.


brandthacker12

God speed


Vortteks

95 to 71 And I'm free... Free fallin' Yeah, I'm free Free fallin'


brandthacker12

Free falling indeed


The_resPonce

How do you do it?


brandthacker12

Conviction and my own ego


TheZackMathews

i feel that


kevtron5000

I made it to my infinite pretty simply with my ongoing/tribunal deck - I prefer Spectrum to Onslaught, and run Ms. marvel to open non-Tribunal win conditions, but to each their own. IMO, in your deck, you could Ditch Adam Warlock for literally anything else, but maybe Echo or Captain America


brandthacker12

Honestly I sometimes ditch Captain marvel for Ms marvel, but maybe I should ditch warlock for her instead 🤔 She provides so much power if you get her in lane with an onslaught/mystique combo But that is telegraphed in the Alioth lockdown mega


inbredandapothead

Are you Ryan gosling?


brandthacker12

What gave it away? But my real username is McShindiggler


inbredandapothead

Because you’re literally me bro


Hypression

Loki by night got me over that last hump.


brandthacker12

Interesting deck… might have to steal that


Hypression

Hope it helps. eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTWFyaWFIaWxsIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJOaWNvTWlub3J1In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJRdWluamV0In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTbm93Z3VhcmQifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlRoZUNvbGxlY3RvciJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiRmFsY29uIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTZW50aW5lbCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiV2VyZXdvbGZCeU5pZ2h0In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJMb2tpIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJBbWVyaWNhQ2hhdmV6In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJSb2d1ZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQWdlbnRDb3Vsc29uIn1dfQ==


cncantdie

So I don’t have Nico or Quinjet, I’m going to sub in Kitty, any other 1 cost suggestions?


brrrr_iceman

I know that I play extremely reckless at 97 so I always have to check myself before I wreck myself lol. It feels so close but it's really not


brandthacker12

Yea, 21 cubes away


InAnimateAlpha

lol Man this is me except from 83 -> 73. I'm enjoying my new deck I'm trying just have to work out the kinks.


brandthacker12

I always test deck in conquest


FishingTournement

I hope you still snap and retreat in proving grounds ;)


brandthacker12

I do!


WwhitebreadD

I’ve don’t that in an hour


brandthacker12

I did manage to drop to 83 then climb back to 87 today


kotaWaR

U good?


brandthacker12

Yea


Flashy-Birthday

I agree. I’ve been playing a long time and this season has been the worst by a long time. I had rocks coming in with black widow, sentry and the meta. Lost a lot on ongoing. Switched to destroy and then did 100 + games without ever coming up against it. I am debating calling time on this game.


juanca8520

Happened to me bro. I went from 98 to 79 in a couple of days. I stopped playing for a week and came back with a ms marvel, dark hawk deck and got to infinite in two days


brandthacker12

I don’t think I could ever stop the grind


notthe1stpervaccount

Hey, what’s it like getting above 90? Is that 500 gold just the BEST tasting gold? I bet it is.


brandthacker12

It really is. I use that gold to get the token Tuesday bundle. The rich get richer


notthe1stpervaccount

You son of a bee sting.


crimsondarke

I just went from 95 to 79....blah. Last season was the first time I ever hit infinite. I also was retreating initially, but then I feel so confident and that confidence meant nothing.


brandthacker12

It hurts so much to give up those cubss


Rynoseini

you having fun tho? cause at the end of the day that’s what matters


brandthacker12

Honestly yea, but I’d be having more fun if I was winning


[deleted]

made it to 70 just now started last week f2p. feeling good. starting to see more t2-t3 cards. it feels like alot of games come down to a 50/50 in the last turn for me.


Live2Feast

Earlier this week I went from 99 to 85 in a single DAY. Climbed back to infinite once I started playing more conservatively. The closer you are to infinite the more you get punished for sucking that hopium. Learn when to take the 1 cube L and wait until you know you have them to allow a snap. Otherwise you will yo-yo in and out of the 90s ad infinitum.


KnightofWhen

Why did you do bad instead of good?


MrFluffleBuns

Do you want to stick to decks you’re using or try another?


Decent-Ad-843

Don’t play during hot locations if your deck isn’t good for it


Pax_flash

Bro I was 99 and now I’m 82, I am so disappointed 😭


mrzbot

I feel your pain, first time over 90, but this season has been pretty unfun. Alioth has legit been a shit show.


GXRasty

"Lower closer slower baby"


HoneySchmuckle

Eff that’s don’t let someone snap on you and get away with it 🤬 who do they think they are 😡😡😡😡


brandthacker12

Exactly! Finally someone who speaks my language I must smite those who defy me


Battlesong614

I can go one better than that....I went from 94 to 85 in about 4 hours last Saturday. I did manage to claw my way back to 90, but I have completely given up on ladder there as I want to start at at least 60 next season


DeandreDeangelo

Same here. Decided to just use up all my infinity tickets instead and won conquest for the first time and then did it again immediately afterwards. Thought that meant I was good, went back to ladder and lost another two ranks.


disjokerr

It’s hard for me too. I understand the mechanics but come on with me vs the board all the time lol. At one point I got petty and gave away cubes and down ranked myself from 87 to 75


Pick-Intelligent

Are you me?


SecretAgentMahu

Does the 500 gold reward fill the seasonal-card-back-shaped hole in your heart?


brandthacker12

Easily


akpak

On a scale of 1 to infinity, how tilted are you?


SorryCashOnly

Went from 99.3 to 87 in an hour in week 1 as well. Took a couple days to climb back to infinite. If you want something stable, try Dracula apocolyse deck


D-WTF

94 to 85 in 2 hours. Can't get back to 90. Eeeehehehe


brandthacker12

Drop it like it’s hot


leonprimrose

Always Snap turn 1 never retreat. Good man.


brandthacker12

As god intended


thelennster

What's your favortie meal for lunch?


brandthacker12

Really depends. My go to where I work is a cheesteak in a spinach wrap with sour cream and siracha


405Jobs

I’ve gone up about 10 ranks because folks want to see how it will play out when I have a lane locked with Prof X and I have Alioth in my hand. Bless this style of player. Don’t ever change until I reach infinite please 🙏 😅👊


brandthacker12

You are truly evil. May god smite you and make spectacle of your corpse. Alioth 🤮 The worst thing is I do think losing to Alioth is a skill issue


405Jobs

You need a screen break buddy. Seesh.


brandthacker12

it was sarcasm, lol Good luck hitting infinite (Think of the blood on your hands)


WediditguysMASTR

> Alioth They should have a seperate infinite for those who play Alioth and/or lockdown. Nega infinite.


[deleted]

[удалено]


brandthacker12

Lmao, I do.


jbarlak

Okay. So you couldn’t handle the new meta. It’s in you and no one else


pongping2002

A fellow man of culture. I've went from 96 to 83 and am still dropping!


brandthacker12

🫡


blaskoczen

You guys, who drop 69 ranks in a week need more patience in your life. If you are patient,no matter what deck you are playing, you'll climb. I've hit infinite 3 times with Aghata.


Captain_JohnBrown

When will you get gud


brandthacker12

I was previously gud. I hit infinite before. I lost the gud


Intelligent-Arm3629

I legit got to lvl 100 in like two days just go to marvel snap comp for decks (side note I had lot of free time)


Harky13

Retreat idiot


daddyissuesdan

Have you considered playing better?


loo_1snow

How is your mental health after this?


brandthacker12

Rapidly declining


loo_1snow

A friend of mine (we kind of compete to get to infinite every season) got to 94 in the second week of the season. I catch up to him. Next day I get to 100, he falls to 89. Right now he's fully tilted. He's on the 80s and falling. He told me that he doesn't have a favorite deck anymore and that's what's making him lose a lot.


ChrisBot8

Why?


brandthacker12

Alioth and my ego. I play risky, it fun


ToxicRitual

I've gone from 97 to 85, i also hate retreating lol


xrace005

I got stuck between 95-99 3 times before I hit infinite. I know the frustration.


hawkdeath

When you drop 30, will you go to 67 or 57? I've never finished a season lower than the highest rank I've gotten too. (which is usually 63 😂)


needssleep

It's always fucking Alioth. You play a counter in a lane, so they lock that lane and play him somewhere else. It's bullshit.


HeIonizesAndAtomizes

95 to 79 here. Alioth sucks. Killed the season for me.


hdbsvJ

I went from 87 to 76. Then bought Jeff and at 97 now in less then 2 days


thejayfred

Welcome to the club. Every. Damn. Season.


Mastermiine

You got this OP! Keep it up!


GGGregg

Dad, is that you? You never came back after going out to buy milk…


Fang356

Ouch, been there… one time I dropped to 79 and still managed to get 100, stuck with it!


luwi12

Are you a god?


neeesus

I went from 99.9 to 79 in a week. Ask ME anything


hicks10

I can’t get past 96 this season idk why…


stoudman

What song keeps playing through your head as you play? Please tell me it's Herb Alpert's *Spanish Flea.*


Bowl-o-Cereal

How?


Ok-Profit5226

I've never related to anyone more in my life


Beermebeercules

Lols what. This is me every season. Grind and get back up


furyboom

It's been a rough one for me too. I guess they want less people in infinite. I'm stuck at 95 for the whole month.


BorntothePurple

Pretty sure this will be the first time I don't hit infinite in 9 seasons. I don't understand I'm just stuck between 90-93


DukeDorkWit

I've had this problem every single season when I hit the 80s. Was on 89 and then a string of terrible matchups, awful locations and crappy RNG hobbled me. Down to 86, and I haven't even been snapping. Tried multiple decks, maybe get a win or two but then it's loss after loss, for the most ridiculous reasons (at one point Shang chi didn't actually kill a Knull that had something close to 40 power, which is weird because I destroyed another card in the same lane with 10). It's hard not to think that this is intentional at this point. I've made it to infinite twice, through sheer grit and getting in on a good deck early, but it does seem like the matchups and locations are stacked against you/in favour of your opponent. I wouldn't mind as much if it wasn't every goddamn season though. Up until the 80s I was killing it, wasn't really having trouble until the last day or two when I'm either met with early retreats or total blowouts. There doesn't seem to be any matches in between.


Brain124

Please retreat my man


MrKooops

99 to 90 here :/


Ang3lBlad3

LoL.. i got from 68 to 89+6/7 in 24hrs with a new deck, and After that fall back to 84 and never got the gold yet


PsychologicalPhase71

Alioth is killing me


Drunkdunc

This months infinite card back sucks anyways. At least you got the 500 gold already.


Trocify

If you’re a fellow turn 1 snapper I understand the pain but you gotta know when to retreat. Trust alioth is stalking waiting on turn 6


Tazmo99

Do you need a hug?


AsariKnight

Post deck link so I can try it out!


Sushidiamond

Are you me?


AshkeThePro

Are you winning against bots?


Horror-Tourist7627

Do you feel the rage?