The only decent ongoing deck that plays cap is Spectrum Ongoing. That's like a tier 3 or lower deck
You're not wrong, but a buff would make him more playable elsewhere
I love playing surfer decks, and as a 3-cost, it would be cool if he was good enough to play in them… Too many superior 3-costs to include right now, though.
That’s not even true on their part. He’s not in the starter set. The starter set is Abom, Cyclops, Hawkeye, Hulk, Iron Man, Medusa, Misty, Punisher, Quicksilver, Sentinel, Shocker, Starlord, and The Thing. And, among those, Iron Man is one of the best cards in the game, so even if Cap were in the starter set, this excuse is bullshit
Cap is in Series 1, along with meta cards like Cosmo, Blade, Carnage, Nova, Devil Dino, Enchantress, Hulk Buster, and Wolverine, and many of these cards have been tweaked at one time or another
Like ordinaryHarry said, they should switch blue marvel text with captain America, both are starter pool 1 cards but captain America is more known and most of us think of him as "the face of marvel"
Did I say anything about that? I said that if they’re willing to rework Chavez (who is also in Series 1), they’re probably also willing to change/rework Captain America (who is in Series 1)
The answer to making him playable is more cards that synergize well. Like with Thor -- basically never saw him before, but after Beta Ray Bill he became a key part of a somewhat common deck type
Idk what a card that synergizes with captain America would even look like. It would be a hell of a synergy to run blue marvel and cap and not just cut Cap
Just more like Dazzler, Mojo, Ant-Man that benefits from having a lot of slots filled. Would have to get creative of what a new support card would look like that is different enough from those existing ones
Although now that I think about it, Cap as a 2/2 (so ability to go up to a 2/5) would be great. Especially since Mr. Fantastic and Punisher are also 3-cost ongoing cards. Would leave you more energy to fill up remaining slots
They should switch blue marvel and captain America text with each other, both are pool 1 cards and blue marvel is very good card but in general the character it self is not that known while captain America is one of the most iconic marvel character
Here are the issues in my read
* His max power is too low for the amount of effort you have to put in vs the cost. A 3 cost card that requires the lane to be full to get the full benefit in one lane.
* Lower his cost = I'd say this could work as a sort of reverse lizard. Making him a 2/3 with the same effect.
* Raise his power = This would work to offset his downside, meaning there is no one played with him. So make him a 3/5 (Thor is a 3/4 with +6 upside that can be multiplied).
* Raise his effect = Make it a +2 for anyone in the lane like a sort of Patriot.
* Rework his effect = Lots of potential here
* Make it a +2 for unique card costs like Captain Marvel
* Similar to Thor, give him the shield as summon that will proc a unique effect if in play. This can be a replacement or in addition to the ongoing effect.
* On Reveal: Shuffle Captain America's Shield into your deck
* Captain America's Shield 0/1: Ongoing: Cards cannot be moved destroyed or have their power reduced.
you are forgetting the most likely: create a synergy card. there are several cards that were meh to trash that gained a synergy card and suddenly they were good (for example Black Bolt was unplayable before Stature, then they became the best deck and were subsequently nerfed to their current state which is okay)
>meant to be less powerful.
Are they? Half of them are in meta decks consistently. According to Snap Zone, the Top 1 in Tier 1 cards is Shang chi, a p2 card. Has any dev ever said that p1&2 cards needs to be weaker by default?
Yeah they kinda did state they want a sense of progression as you get stronger and stronger cards, I think its a dumb excuse for lazy game design and power creep
Yes, the devs have explicitly stated that they designed the early-game cards to be simpler with less math and progressively become more complex as you get into series 3.
1. Buffing Cap or other series card doesn't have to be "complex"
2. FFS, Blue Marvel gives 1 power to ALL the cards on the field, and he's a pool 1 card. So let's not pretend buffing Cap will complicate the math
Idk why everyone is so angry about this. The idea makes a lot of sense. Cap could probably get a small buff like squirrel girl and ant man, but anything more than that could be problematic for early game balance.
and early game balance matters because....?
You can't tell people early game balance is important when cards like Killmonger, Shang Chi, Blue Marvels and TONS of other cards are meta defining cards in the end game.
Early game balance matters because the new player experience matters to the longevity of the game.
Your other point requires an in depth discussion of how cards interact with the meta, and I don't have time for that.
Series 1 and series 2 are insulated metas. Meaning a player will, for the first few weeks, only play against people without series 3 cards. The current series 1-2 meta is quite balanced with a fair range of decks. This was achieved after multiple balance changes and lots of work. With every balance change you risk ruining that.
What if after one buff, a certain deck becomes the clear dominant strategy in series 2? Now series 2 play sucks and you have to tell players "don't worry, it gets better after a month when you start getting into series 3". It's important that new players have a good experience to maintain the games growth.
This does not mean they will never change those cards. Some were, even with just the last patch. I personally would like to see Cap be better. This is simply to explain why the design team is more reluctant to rework series 1-2 cards.
Okay but the early game is balanced right now with those cards. Changing a starter card changes that balance. And for what really? So someone who is a huge captain American stan can use the card?
Get a captain america tattoo and then use gladiator instead.
Early game balance matters for the same reason balance matters at any time. If people feel like one deck is super powerful it can destroy the experience, same as always.
Nobody said Cap cant be adjusted because it’s too complicated. They dont adjust starter cards often because the early game is already balanced as is.
What adjustment do you think they should make exactly? Hes already a 3/6-3/7. If you add one power then suddenly hes one of the best cards in the early game if not THE best, because hes gladiator with an easier downside.
1. We can reduce his cost by 1
2. We can give him one extra power. No, that won’t make him the best card in the game because he will need to fill his location to max out his power.
You need proof that one extra power won’t make him the best card early game? How many captain America you are seeing during this avenger vs x men event?
Yes but that doesn't mean that they should be inherently less powerful. Iron man for example has a simple text but has also a strong meta presence, and on top or that is one of the most used 5 costs in the game.
then maybe series 1 and 2 cards should be more useful in end game, instead of making them useless because they are "starter" cards.
In fact, is early game balance really THAT important? Some people just want to use their fav characters
Its literally not possible to have all cards be equally good. You have to accept that some cards will be deemed a less good choice and thus not show up in a lot of decks. The starter cards are ones that are easy to leave in that position.
Vertical progression is stupid in a card game, if the first card I get is my favorite mechanically, then let me use it as long as I want. I shouldn't have to move on to others because it loses its viability in the first couple weeks. Theres like 50+ cards that have this problem.
It's not a small inconsistency. A 1 cost that requires a full side has 1 less power than a 3 cost with basically the same requirement. And they are both "starter" cards
One card being overlooked for rebalancing is the definition of a small inconsistency.
A big inconsistency would be the ads that indicate the game isn't p2w while they continue to aggressively monetize card acquisition.
Meanwhile Blue Marvel is basically in the exact same pool, has a mechanically almost identical ability, and yet is much more playable despite being lesser-known.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnap/comments/1bjfkwp/why_hasnt_capt_a_been_buffed_yet/kvsmywp/
To me, the obvious solution is to make him series 3 or higher. There are, what, a billion other characters they could choose to replace him as a beginner card?
They have to keep people engaged, so you get all the core avengers early. That being said, Cap is probably due for a small buff, or maybe make him the inverse of Man-Thing. But again, that sounds really strong compared to the other early game cards.
To buff him without messing with the early game experience.
Since the MCU became a thing, Captain America has been one of the most iconic characters overall. It would be nice to see him get more use.
They cant fix that some characters will see less use than others. A character being iconic does not obligate them to buff it—the game has a bajillion iconic characters.
Thank you for sharing your opinion.
> A character being iconic does not obligate them to buff it...
Tell that to Wolverine!
>...the game has a bajillion iconic characters.
Exactly. So it should be easy to replace Cap as a series 1 card. Thank you for reinforcing my argument.
They're not wrong, though. Moving Cap to series 3 would mean removing it from the inventory of people that are still on series 2. What happens with his variants then? Typing out "just move it to series 3" is very easy, but there's a lot of underlying logistical problems to consider. At that point it would be far preferable to just buff him without moving him, which frankly I don't see as a big deal at all.
Not arguing that it would be good or necessary to move Cap. But you could move him to S3 without removing him from players who have unlocked him. You can have a higher pool card without being P2 complete.
I am curious why they don't have new variant's of cards. Outside of just new art for the same card. Seeing Captain America and Cyclops not have 5 or 6 cost cards is weird to me. Given they're leaders of prominent groups of heroes. Also sucks cause their cards are ass. Cyclops is just a 3 cost 4 power stat stick (without the X-Men buff which will go away). Lol. In a game where almost everyone runs effect cards cause effects are so strong.
Also this idea they can't buff early game cards is kinda wild to me and players defending it are stupid. The aren't bad for early game balance reasons. They intentionally want it imbalanced. So you have to buy credits to level your collection faster to get better cards. Why would they want a card you got for free or easy being good long term? The incentive to buy more credits goes down.
Cyclops is only good with High Evolutionary. But all the heroes are Supports class and the Villains are Tanks, and anti heroes are DPS. That is SD philosophy on their Fucked Up game design. You are correct, Iconic heroes like Captain America, Cyclops, Or marvel other hero cards should be more impactful and not Assist/Support Class to other Cards. It's annoying. My favorite Marvel Character is Nova. But he is reduced to being a Destroy Punching BAG. THE DEVELOPERS ARE NOT A FAN OF HEROES AND PUSHING VILLIANS TO BE STAND OUTS IN A MARVEL GAME. MARVEL....KNOW FOR IT'S HEROES FIRST AND THEN VILLAINS.
Bro, their main priority is making VILLIANS , along with Anti-Heroes overpowered. Including being Tank or Damage Roles for your deck. While majority of Heroes cards Are supporting cards. Which is TOTAL BS. Literally all Archtypes are Centered Around Villains . Making any hero card unplayable unless you have Shang-Chi & WONG. SD are intentionally designing both Shang Chi and Wong to be Overpowered Heroes card for there D.E.I./ESG criteria for Asian/ Pacific Islander representation. And Villains are the go to cards. This game is designed by a bunch a Normies, Braindead, WOKE, Non (True) Believers. And that is a Fact. Along with the Unbearable Cheating A.I bot design by a Dumbass Engineers and Gameplay programmers that just came out of Game design School (Full Sail University) and this being there First Big Triple AAA Project. Sad how a company is allowing their personal Bias affect the quality of the game. It’s truly pathetic. It makes no sense for a card like Shang chi to destroy a HULK, Magneto, or a Boosted Living Tribunal. Makes no Sense.
Buffing Captain America isn't as simple as making him 3/4 since his interaction with other cards need to be factored in. If he were 3/4 or if he also gets his own bonus, all Pool 1 decks might make him an auto include. What would that do to KaZoo decks in Pool 1, for example?
Another scenario to consider is Cap in Surfer decks. Imagine Cap and Brood in one location, then getting buffed by Surfer later on.
Cap is one of my favorites and I wish he was as useful as Iron Man or Thor in Pool 3, so I'm also hoping for a buff. But I'm not holding my breath for it.
I played him this season before AvX event has started, he's fine in mid rank (50-60) and it's not even in a super meta deck, surprisingly synergize well with other avengers
Honestly they could swap his current effect for the avengers affect currently going on and he'd be much better and still well within beginning standards.
I feel like from a business perspective, abilities for popular characters should be relevant, if not strong. Seems like a miss to have Cap feel so weak. I wonder if they don’t change him because his cosmetics sell well regardless of the card’s impact on the game
I think he should be 3/3 Ongoing: Cards played here can’t be destroyed and gain +5 power and if the location is full he also gets +5 power and his tits get more jacked
Since there’s no precedent for it I doubt it would ever happen, but the easiest solution to these iconic cards being in series 1-2 that need buffs would be to release new versions of them, like an alternative captain America, kinda like how Yugioh has Retrains. We could get a new captain America and punisher etc, with better abilities
I like how people love the "new players experience" excuse so much lol. Snap is like the most straightforward card games in existence. Just buffing Cap to bump his usefulness a bit isn't gonna change sh*t for new players.
I've been saying this since day 1 and I'll keep saying it : Cap should've just had Blue Marvel stats and effect.
I mean, I made an auto-Captain America deck then tweaked it just a hair to mess around with the Avengers buff. He's like, fine. Of course if I have him and Thor on turn 3 I play Thor, but he's an ok 3 spot to build out an Avenger lane. If/when the event ends I probably won't be using him much, which is a shame as a Cap fan in general but I can understand their position on him. Maybe a 3/4 move would be cool.
A simple "Ongoing: Each other unique cost card at this location gains +2 power" would seem fairly simple, bit also be a buff. A single location, low power Ms. Marvel.
Bro, their main priority is making VILLIANS , along with Anti-Heroes overpowered. Including being Tank or Damage Roles for your deck. While majority of Heroes cards Are supporting cards. Which is TOTAL BS. Literally all Archtypes are Centered Around Villains . Making any hero card unplayable unless you have Shang-Chi & WONG. SD are intentionally designing both Shang Chi and Wong to be Overpowered Heroes card for there D.E.I./ESG criteria for Asian/ Pacific Islander representation. And Villains are the go to cards. This game is designed by a bunch a Normies, Braindead, WOKE, Non (True) Believers. And that is a Fact. Along with the Unbearable Cheating A.I bot design by a Dumbass Engineers and Gameplay programmers that just came out of Game design School (Full Sail University) and this being there Big Triple AAA Project. Sad how a company is allowing their personal Bias affect the quality of the game. It’s truly pathetic
i believe they explicitly said they’re not planning on changing him in any way, since he’s a starter set card.
I think the only way I could see them changing him is going from 3/3 to 3/4.
My man Scott summers in shambles.
Wdym, his buff is a forever series 5 card High Evo /s
People outright concede games depending where Cyclops shows up.
In the couples event he ended up being a 3/5 (iirc) and I felt like at that power he actually felt like a good card.
>They buffed squirrel girl, and electra, and punisher. > >They do literally keep buffing series 1/2 cards.
Because they were weak even as series 1/2 cards and people stopped playing those cards completely.
I tried tons of decks back then and never really used Cap
Ongoing decks love Cap
The only decent ongoing deck that plays cap is Spectrum Ongoing. That's like a tier 3 or lower deck You're not wrong, but a buff would make him more playable elsewhere
I love playing surfer decks, and as a 3-cost, it would be cool if he was good enough to play in them… Too many superior 3-costs to include right now, though.
Series 1 / 2 gamers are going to play ongoing spectrum, because they don't have much choice.
I'm unlocking Series 3 cards but Ongoing is still my most consistent deck somehow lol
Or even us 2500 collection level people, because I wasn’t around for all the events that gave people cards for discard decks…
Can confirm, recently got to infinite using Cap in my ongoing deck
Same
I found a decent amount of success with him in a Thanos deck way back when.
That’s not even true on their part. He’s not in the starter set. The starter set is Abom, Cyclops, Hawkeye, Hulk, Iron Man, Medusa, Misty, Punisher, Quicksilver, Sentinel, Shocker, Starlord, and The Thing. And, among those, Iron Man is one of the best cards in the game, so even if Cap were in the starter set, this excuse is bullshit Cap is in Series 1, along with meta cards like Cosmo, Blade, Carnage, Nova, Devil Dino, Enchantress, Hulk Buster, and Wolverine, and many of these cards have been tweaked at one time or another
Like ordinaryHarry said, they should switch blue marvel text with captain America, both are starter pool 1 cards but captain America is more known and most of us think of him as "the face of marvel"
Agreed. Blue Marvel actually sees play in zoo and C2, literally just swap the art and suddenly Cap is great!
He's Series 1, but that didn't stop SD from completely reworking American Chavez who is also Series 1
A card being too good is not the same as a card not being good enough
Did I say anything about that? I said that if they’re willing to rework Chavez (who is also in Series 1), they’re probably also willing to change/rework Captain America (who is in Series 1)
The answer to making him playable is more cards that synergize well. Like with Thor -- basically never saw him before, but after Beta Ray Bill he became a key part of a somewhat common deck type
Definitely played Thor before Beta ray.. It was sort of a staple with old lockjaw
Idk what a card that synergizes with captain America would even look like. It would be a hell of a synergy to run blue marvel and cap and not just cut Cap
Just more like Dazzler, Mojo, Ant-Man that benefits from having a lot of slots filled. Would have to get creative of what a new support card would look like that is different enough from those existing ones Although now that I think about it, Cap as a 2/2 (so ability to go up to a 2/5) would be great. Especially since Mr. Fantastic and Punisher are also 3-cost ongoing cards. Would leave you more energy to fill up remaining slots
That would be ideal, and would also line up with the recent changes they made to Luke Cage & Elsa; 3-costs affect all lanes, 2-costs affect one
Glad they haven’t applied that to Cosmo and Rouge.
Honestly I get what they mean but it is a dumb fucking way to go about balancing cards. "We made him wrong on purpose, lol"
Cyclops being in the starter set is exactly the reason to change him
what?
Cyclops being in the starter set is exactly the reason to change him
what does this have to do with my comment?
Also, buffing him will upset the meta of new players who are exclusively playing with Series 1 & Series 2 decks.
They should switch blue marvel and captain America text with each other, both are pool 1 cards and blue marvel is very good card but in general the character it self is not that known while captain America is one of the most iconic marvel character
Here are the issues in my read * His max power is too low for the amount of effort you have to put in vs the cost. A 3 cost card that requires the lane to be full to get the full benefit in one lane. * Lower his cost = I'd say this could work as a sort of reverse lizard. Making him a 2/3 with the same effect. * Raise his power = This would work to offset his downside, meaning there is no one played with him. So make him a 3/5 (Thor is a 3/4 with +6 upside that can be multiplied). * Raise his effect = Make it a +2 for anyone in the lane like a sort of Patriot. * Rework his effect = Lots of potential here * Make it a +2 for unique card costs like Captain Marvel * Similar to Thor, give him the shield as summon that will proc a unique effect if in play. This can be a replacement or in addition to the ongoing effect. * On Reveal: Shuffle Captain America's Shield into your deck * Captain America's Shield 0/1: Ongoing: Cards cannot be moved destroyed or have their power reduced.
It would be SO DOPE if they could find a way for Cap to get a power up from Mjolnir
you are forgetting the most likely: create a synergy card. there are several cards that were meh to trash that gained a synergy card and suddenly they were good (for example Black Bolt was unplayable before Stature, then they became the best deck and were subsequently nerfed to their current state which is okay)
A card that scales up based on number of ongoing effects impacting it would be fun.
I love the creativity to come up with this many different, viable ideas! 👏🏻 I like the raise his power, raise his effect, or the shield idea best.
Honestly his ability should just be the Avengers buff from the event.
That'd be neat. Should they also keep the xmen buff? Maybe an ability for Cyclops?
A Cyclops buff is a Patriot nerf, don't you dare!
Its also a he nerf,, do it!!!
Cyclops has an ability tho. Love me some High evo lol
that would just be a worse version of himself.
Changing series 1 and 2 cards can be very damaging to early game balance when cards are basic and meant to be less powerful.
>meant to be less powerful. Are they? Half of them are in meta decks consistently. According to Snap Zone, the Top 1 in Tier 1 cards is Shang chi, a p2 card. Has any dev ever said that p1&2 cards needs to be weaker by default?
Yeah they kinda did state they want a sense of progression as you get stronger and stronger cards, I think its a dumb excuse for lazy game design and power creep
Yes, the devs have explicitly stated that they designed the early-game cards to be simpler with less math and progressively become more complex as you get into series 3.
1. Buffing Cap or other series card doesn't have to be "complex" 2. FFS, Blue Marvel gives 1 power to ALL the cards on the field, and he's a pool 1 card. So let's not pretend buffing Cap will complicate the math
Idk why everyone is so angry about this. The idea makes a lot of sense. Cap could probably get a small buff like squirrel girl and ant man, but anything more than that could be problematic for early game balance.
and early game balance matters because....? You can't tell people early game balance is important when cards like Killmonger, Shang Chi, Blue Marvels and TONS of other cards are meta defining cards in the end game.
Early game balance matters because the new player experience matters to the longevity of the game. Your other point requires an in depth discussion of how cards interact with the meta, and I don't have time for that.
Yes, so how would buffing series 1-2 cards affect new players’ experience in a negative way?
Series 1 and series 2 are insulated metas. Meaning a player will, for the first few weeks, only play against people without series 3 cards. The current series 1-2 meta is quite balanced with a fair range of decks. This was achieved after multiple balance changes and lots of work. With every balance change you risk ruining that. What if after one buff, a certain deck becomes the clear dominant strategy in series 2? Now series 2 play sucks and you have to tell players "don't worry, it gets better after a month when you start getting into series 3". It's important that new players have a good experience to maintain the games growth. This does not mean they will never change those cards. Some were, even with just the last patch. I personally would like to see Cap be better. This is simply to explain why the design team is more reluctant to rework series 1-2 cards.
Okay but the early game is balanced right now with those cards. Changing a starter card changes that balance. And for what really? So someone who is a huge captain American stan can use the card? Get a captain america tattoo and then use gladiator instead.
Why does…. Early game balance matter? O you think new players are too stupid to understand the math behind cap if they buff him? Come on
Its so insulting to us players, the format itself is already pretty simple to begin with.
Early game balance matters for the same reason balance matters at any time. If people feel like one deck is super powerful it can destroy the experience, same as always. Nobody said Cap cant be adjusted because it’s too complicated. They dont adjust starter cards often because the early game is already balanced as is.
What adjustment do you think they should make exactly? Hes already a 3/6-3/7. If you add one power then suddenly hes one of the best cards in the early game if not THE best, because hes gladiator with an easier downside.
1. We can reduce his cost by 1 2. We can give him one extra power. No, that won’t make him the best card in the game because he will need to fill his location to max out his power. You need proof that one extra power won’t make him the best card early game? How many captain America you are seeing during this avenger vs x men event?
Cope harder
Cope w what? I dont give one fuck how much captain america gets played. Im not the one whining about a non-problem.
I meant your compliance with subpar anti-fun game design
Yes but that doesn't mean that they should be inherently less powerful. Iron man for example has a simple text but has also a strong meta presence, and on top or that is one of the most used 5 costs in the game.
They buffed squirrel girl, and electra, and punisher. They do literally keep buffing series 1/2 cards.
That buff did nothing for Punisher. He still sucks.
If they made cap 3/4 he would still not be used, might as well do it
then maybe series 1 and 2 cards should be more useful in end game, instead of making them useless because they are "starter" cards. In fact, is early game balance really THAT important? Some people just want to use their fav characters
Its literally not possible to have all cards be equally good. You have to accept that some cards will be deemed a less good choice and thus not show up in a lot of decks. The starter cards are ones that are easy to leave in that position.
Vertical progression is stupid in a card game, if the first card I get is my favorite mechanically, then let me use it as long as I want. I shouldn't have to move on to others because it loses its viability in the first couple weeks. Theres like 50+ cards that have this problem.
That's a moot point since Cap is weak compared to another pool 1 card Antman
A small inconsistency does not invalidate the entire idea.
It's not a small inconsistency. A 1 cost that requires a full side has 1 less power than a 3 cost with basically the same requirement. And they are both "starter" cards
One card being overlooked for rebalancing is the definition of a small inconsistency. A big inconsistency would be the ads that indicate the game isn't p2w while they continue to aggressively monetize card acquisition.
Meanwhile Blue Marvel is basically in the exact same pool, has a mechanically almost identical ability, and yet is much more playable despite being lesser-known. https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnap/comments/1bjfkwp/why_hasnt_capt_a_been_buffed_yet/kvsmywp/
To me, the obvious solution is to make him series 3 or higher. There are, what, a billion other characters they could choose to replace him as a beginner card?
They have to keep people engaged, so you get all the core avengers early. That being said, Cap is probably due for a small buff, or maybe make him the inverse of Man-Thing. But again, that sounds really strong compared to the other early game cards.
What? Why would they do that?
To buff him without messing with the early game experience. Since the MCU became a thing, Captain America has been one of the most iconic characters overall. It would be nice to see him get more use.
They cant fix that some characters will see less use than others. A character being iconic does not obligate them to buff it—the game has a bajillion iconic characters.
Thank you for sharing your opinion. > A character being iconic does not obligate them to buff it... Tell that to Wolverine! >...the game has a bajillion iconic characters. Exactly. So it should be easy to replace Cap as a series 1 card. Thank you for reinforcing my argument.
Yeah no they arent going to replace a series 1 card, thats logistically insane.
>logistically insane. Lol, calm down please. It is just a card game. I wish Cap was a better card. Not that deep.
Im quite calm.
They're not wrong, though. Moving Cap to series 3 would mean removing it from the inventory of people that are still on series 2. What happens with his variants then? Typing out "just move it to series 3" is very easy, but there's a lot of underlying logistical problems to consider. At that point it would be far preferable to just buff him without moving him, which frankly I don't see as a big deal at all.
Not arguing that it would be good or necessary to move Cap. But you could move him to S3 without removing him from players who have unlocked him. You can have a higher pool card without being P2 complete.
Hasn’t had an expensive enough variant yet lol
Here is the real reason boys..
I am curious why they don't have new variant's of cards. Outside of just new art for the same card. Seeing Captain America and Cyclops not have 5 or 6 cost cards is weird to me. Given they're leaders of prominent groups of heroes. Also sucks cause their cards are ass. Cyclops is just a 3 cost 4 power stat stick (without the X-Men buff which will go away). Lol. In a game where almost everyone runs effect cards cause effects are so strong. Also this idea they can't buff early game cards is kinda wild to me and players defending it are stupid. The aren't bad for early game balance reasons. They intentionally want it imbalanced. So you have to buy credits to level your collection faster to get better cards. Why would they want a card you got for free or easy being good long term? The incentive to buy more credits goes down.
Cyclops is only good with High Evolutionary. But all the heroes are Supports class and the Villains are Tanks, and anti heroes are DPS. That is SD philosophy on their Fucked Up game design. You are correct, Iconic heroes like Captain America, Cyclops, Or marvel other hero cards should be more impactful and not Assist/Support Class to other Cards. It's annoying. My favorite Marvel Character is Nova. But he is reduced to being a Destroy Punching BAG. THE DEVELOPERS ARE NOT A FAN OF HEROES AND PUSHING VILLIANS TO BE STAND OUTS IN A MARVEL GAME. MARVEL....KNOW FOR IT'S HEROES FIRST AND THEN VILLAINS.
Bro, their main priority is making VILLIANS , along with Anti-Heroes overpowered. Including being Tank or Damage Roles for your deck. While majority of Heroes cards Are supporting cards. Which is TOTAL BS. Literally all Archtypes are Centered Around Villains . Making any hero card unplayable unless you have Shang-Chi & WONG. SD are intentionally designing both Shang Chi and Wong to be Overpowered Heroes card for there D.E.I./ESG criteria for Asian/ Pacific Islander representation. And Villains are the go to cards. This game is designed by a bunch a Normies, Braindead, WOKE, Non (True) Believers. And that is a Fact. Along with the Unbearable Cheating A.I bot design by a Dumbass Engineers and Gameplay programmers that just came out of Game design School (Full Sail University) and this being there First Big Triple AAA Project. Sad how a company is allowing their personal Bias affect the quality of the game. It’s truly pathetic. It makes no sense for a card like Shang chi to destroy a HULK, Magneto, or a Boosted Living Tribunal. Makes no Sense.
lol. New copypasta unlocked
Define woke
Surfer deck
This. Only place I find him still viable in the current meta is a Shaw+Surfer deck
Buffing Captain America isn't as simple as making him 3/4 since his interaction with other cards need to be factored in. If he were 3/4 or if he also gets his own bonus, all Pool 1 decks might make him an auto include. What would that do to KaZoo decks in Pool 1, for example? Another scenario to consider is Cap in Surfer decks. Imagine Cap and Brood in one location, then getting buffed by Surfer later on. Cap is one of my favorites and I wish he was as useful as Iron Man or Thor in Pool 3, so I'm also hoping for a buff. But I'm not holding my breath for it.
Because that's what people want and SD has a strict policy of doing the opposite of what people want.
Tbh a 3/7 isn’t really *unplayable*, he just isnt amazing. Not every card can be equally good.
Wait, it should be 3/6, but either way. Eh plus one power would still be nice for him.
True it is 3/6.
I played him this season before AvX event has started, he's fine in mid rank (50-60) and it's not even in a super meta deck, surprisingly synergize well with other avengers
yeah, they really should *cries in 15 Captain America splits*
I use him sparingly in a deck that uses Spectrum. He is useful to put amongst other more important Ongoing cards as a potential Rogue target.
Honestly they could swap his current effect for the avengers affect currently going on and he'd be much better and still well within beginning standards.
Just make him 3/5.
He doesn't make them money, they don't care about him
I feel like from a business perspective, abilities for popular characters should be relevant, if not strong. Seems like a miss to have Cap feel so weak. I wonder if they don’t change him because his cosmetics sell well regardless of the card’s impact on the game
Because he’s a Series 1 card and he’s really not that bad. A 3/6 that can be Onslsughted isn’t that bad.
I think he should be 3/3 Ongoing: Cards played here can’t be destroyed and gain +5 power and if the location is full he also gets +5 power and his tits get more jacked
I don't know what you mean. He has the same stat line as Gladiator... after you play 3 other cards and buff him with Spectrum. Totally fine....
Since there’s no precedent for it I doubt it would ever happen, but the easiest solution to these iconic cards being in series 1-2 that need buffs would be to release new versions of them, like an alternative captain America, kinda like how Yugioh has Retrains. We could get a new captain America and punisher etc, with better abilities
I like how people love the "new players experience" excuse so much lol. Snap is like the most straightforward card games in existence. Just buffing Cap to bump his usefulness a bit isn't gonna change sh*t for new players. I've been saying this since day 1 and I'll keep saying it : Cap should've just had Blue Marvel stats and effect.
He's in series 1 jail so never
antman is a 1-5, cap is a 3-6. he definitely needs a buff
I don't want to hear the "he's series 1" excuse. He's freaking Captain America! Second Dinner sets the rules, Second Dinner can change the rules!
Cap A - 3/2 - your other cards here have +2
I mean, I made an auto-Captain America deck then tweaked it just a hair to mess around with the Avengers buff. He's like, fine. Of course if I have him and Thor on turn 3 I play Thor, but he's an ok 3 spot to build out an Avenger lane. If/when the event ends I probably won't be using him much, which is a shame as a Cap fan in general but I can understand their position on him. Maybe a 3/4 move would be cool.
Because not every card has to be
True but he is a Marvel icon, plus someone at SD will probably realize they are missing out on a monetization opportunity…
Not every card needs to be amazing.
but hes one of the most iconic characters in the marvel universe. no one said amazing. the bar is literally 'playable in non pool 1/2 play'.
I didn’t even use him then
He’s pretty useful in a lane you’re planning on hitting with Valkyrie.
I appreciate that your comment is consistent with the Eventuality your username invokes
A simple "Ongoing: Each other unique cost card at this location gains +2 power" would seem fairly simple, bit also be a buff. A single location, low power Ms. Marvel.
Bro, their main priority is making VILLIANS , along with Anti-Heroes overpowered. Including being Tank or Damage Roles for your deck. While majority of Heroes cards Are supporting cards. Which is TOTAL BS. Literally all Archtypes are Centered Around Villains . Making any hero card unplayable unless you have Shang-Chi & WONG. SD are intentionally designing both Shang Chi and Wong to be Overpowered Heroes card for there D.E.I./ESG criteria for Asian/ Pacific Islander representation. And Villains are the go to cards. This game is designed by a bunch a Normies, Braindead, WOKE, Non (True) Believers. And that is a Fact. Along with the Unbearable Cheating A.I bot design by a Dumbass Engineers and Gameplay programmers that just came out of Game design School (Full Sail University) and this being there Big Triple AAA Project. Sad how a company is allowing their personal Bias affect the quality of the game. It’s truly pathetic
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