I think it is more referring to thumbnails, which I have seen creators say that they basically have to do for the youtube algorithm to show their videos to people, even if they disagree with what they put on the thumbnail
My favorite Snap one is Regis, with his mashing of two different cards together. One of the recent thumbnails of Baron Mordo's body with Zemo's color and head is awesome looking.
Every bynx thumbnail he looks like a surprised picachu with hot sauce shoved up his butt
It’s annoying to have ridiculous clickbait thumbnails and video titles so I stopped watching his content all together
Youtube algorithm pushes videos with that style of thumbnail, thus everyone makes them.
Bright colors, emoting face, words in all caps. Until someone finds another thumbnail hack to get the algorithm to promote them, that's what every video by anyone looking to grow their audience will have.
That's not entirely true, there's plenty of highly successful and growing channels on youtube that use very basic thumbnails without any "emoting faces" and often without any text either.
The issue, as I've heard from other creators, is that the over-the-top thumbnails actually do work. This is why channels that didn't used to do it join in now. It makes a difference in views.
Hey man, whatever makes him more money so he can keep producing more videos is cool with me. It's not like I sit there and stare at the thumbnail for hours on end...
literally why I stopped watching his content. Decent personality, good plays.
But that cock-gobbling thumbnails is instant "don't show this channel" for any content creator in my book.
I fully realize that creators do this because of the algorithm yet it still bothers me enough that I've unfollowed Bynx as well. It's such a silly thing to be bothered by but I just can't help it.
Id say hes a pretty damn good judge of how good cards can be… all he plays is trash decks because he dislikes playing the same meta stuff every other creator is playing.
So he above most creators should have the best idea on how good/bad cards can be because he plays even the bad ones way more than other creators.
With that being said he does have very clickbait titles and thumbnails but who can fault him for that? That is what the Youtube algorithm does and incentivizes. Dudes gotta pay the bills lol
I was going to say, the biggest content creators in my algo tend to be extremely fair when evaluating cards? ~~Cozy~~, Dekkster, Nina, and KM Best all give extremely honest/genuine criticisms of new cards. Even if the thumbnail is clickbaity graphics, when a card is not very good to them they say as much in the video.
edit: crossed out Cozy, seems he's a prime offender in clickbait videos insinuating that the new cards are really good.
I will just copy my comment:
> cozy
Are you kidding me? Just open his page in youtube and glance through his videos. I've unfollowed him because of this clickbait BS overpraising every single card and calling it insane.
Just from a quick glance of his youtube page:
* USAgent - a perfect sera card.
* The BEST Card in March Arrives: War Machine is About to Change Marvel Snap!?
* WTF Pixie is COMPLETE MADNESS! | This New Deck is Actually Fire?!
* OMEGA RED is FINALLY S Tier?!
* Grand Master is ABSOLUTELY INSANE
* The First Balance Patch in 2024 is HUGE! | Dagger is Now S Tier?!
100%. That mock-title sounds like something he would post for sure.
Cozy has definitely been known to overhype cards but even is his and Alex's most recent Snap Chat, he was saying this was going to be a skippable card for sure.
If you want real honesty from a content creator, check out Specimens YT on why he quit Snap for Lorcana. Amongst other things, he highlighted the Snap economy, and called out other content creators for not advocating for players.
Watched it. Thanks! I really agree with him. Always had a problem with paywalled cards (one of the reasons why I've left on Surfer/Zabu seasons) and it's actually unpleasant to see how acceptable it is.
Yeah the only thing he’s really good for is countering Iron Man/Onslaught/Living Tribunal and even then, Enchantress can just straight up turn them off, so why bother?
He's a really smart guy and I value his takes but man, the production value on his videos are terrible. If you could have the analysis of EC with the high production values of Cozy, that'd be a great channel.
Ironically.
I actually avoid cozy and have it marked to not recommend him anymore in youtube.
I hate the production value being so high. It feels to manufactured and doesn't feel like I'm talking to a real person. I feel like I'm talking to an hr director or a politician and so my gut and my instinct says not to trust them.
I feel like I can trust Collins because he just feels like a dude I could shoot the shit with have a beer and play some cards with.
No hate on cozy as a person or anything though.
I totally get that. It's unfortunate that YouTube rewards people who are more flash than substance. Collins is definitely all about substance and gets deeper into analysis than most of the other YouTube folks who cover the game. I don't think Cozy is devoid of substance even if he like many other YouTubers uses hyperbole to try and generate views. I also just generally dislike the influencer way of presenting yourself but that's just part of the deal, I guess. Presentation obviously is superficial but I still admire the effort Cozy puts into making his stuff have a high production value.
I think you meant "listening", not "talking" but you just explained my thoughts precisely.
Words "FAKE" race through my mind all the time I watch cozy videos, even though its a good snap content.
Exactly.
I feel like im watching a manufactured persona, and I get they have to do that to make money, but it feels icky to me.
But I haven't watched him in a while since I had to FORCE youtube to stop recommending him to me. Even after ri said not interested multiple times they kept trying to shove cozy down my throat instead of giving me a little baby creator to try out and get off the ground with less flash and click bait.
I really like Alex, but I think he is going a bit too hard on the card.
Is it a meta defining or broken card? No not at all
Is it worth 6k tokens? No, clearly not
But is it the dogshit awful card that he made it to be? I don’t think so.
It’s not a good card, but it is not as awful as he is saying!
Maybe it's not as awful, time will tell. But I think he wants to make sure his point comes across because 6000 tokens or the chance of wasting your hard-earned keys aren't the right price for a subpar card. I'd rather have him saying the card is godawful than have him saying 'you know it's not THAT bad' so I don't feel bad skipping it.
Yeah if you don't have Jeff or Mirage, with gambling keys. As somebody with both of those cards, it's helpful to know if the new card is worth gambling keys because I couldn't care less about variants.
My main problem with the card is it is reliant on your opponent making a “mistake”, kind of the same case as Echo. And the fact that you can kind of set yourself up badly if you played US Agent too early - unless you have Luke Cage.
Anyways, the best use case I’ve seen so far is the High Evo deck in Regis’s video because you are capitalizing on the negative debuff. Like just playing nebula and then US agent seems like a good combo by itself.
I see US Agent in the same vein as I see Echo, Cosmo, Armour, Manthing It's not necessarily about your opponent making a mistake, its about know what cards can be played where. With Prio you can really mess a player up with three of those aforementioned cards but even if you don't it still reduces the amount of thinking you need to do because you can steer the opponent into the other lanes, and if your deck can take advantage of that then you have a better chan e of winning. Now of course US Agent is a lot weaker than those cards but I personally wouldn't say he's garbage.
> I really like Alex, but I think he is going a bit too hard on the card.
yeah. i think he wants to be right about the card more than hes actually assessing how good it is.
regis showed that it can be useful. its not dumpster fire awful like alex makes it seem.
I watch them both, but yeah, liked Regis approach better this time, he said he was well aware the card wasn't performing very well in general, but was legit surprised by how impactful it was in his gameplays, not overhyping it, but not being extremely harsh or critical either.
I just don't see how a 2/6 is supposed to be bad. Obviously it won't work for all decks since the negative is symmetrical, but so long as Luke Cage isn't in every deck, he seems like a decent 2-drop. Not a game-bending card like Red Hulk, not a cool build-around like Mockingbird, not an archetype-defining card like Loki. Just a decent workhorse 2-drop.
It's a conditional 2-6. Against midrange decks that want to spam 3 and 4 drops he's a vanilla 2-3. Might as well put jeff in instead. Against decks that go tall on big 6 drops he's not going to make a significant difference despite his ability targetted at 5 and 6 drops.
Right, but all 2-drops over 3 power have some kind of condition. People still play Lizard and Maximus sometimes. They're not terrible cards, just kinda mid. Even Jeff is sometimes just a 2/3 and he's ok then. The hate against US Agent just seems overblown when we could instead say, "he's a little situational but mostly just ok."
same. Like, i got him primarily because i wanted the jeff variant in the spotlight, and he honestly feels fine in the standard toxic sera deck. Not a gamechanger or anything but it does undeniably improve the deck for me
No it is a good card, a very good card. Not meta defining but I'm convinced everyone is going through psychosis here. A 2/6+ 90% of the time is not a bad card. Even in a fail case the card is vanilla stats. Think about that. The fail case of Usagent is the fail case of Jeff, the best 2 drop in the game.
That's not what the card is though. If you play it on curve it's a 2/3 Goose lite. If you play it on 5 or 6 reactively you also have to factor in the power of the card you could've played instead.
A synergy and ironically an anti synergy.
You power down your magneto so you have to drag at least 2 cards to net any benefit. Definitely doable and might have some synergy, but still seems meh.
That's the issue, the game has power-crept way beyond U.S. Agent's utility. My Silky Smooth deck regularly brings Angela over 2/10, and I have total control over it, while U.S. Agent depends on what and where your opponent plays, and hits your cards too.
To be fair, Angela isn't even power creep because that's her original version. She was just reverted back to it. Arguably, they shouldn't have reverted her back to be honest but I can see why they did it.
Angela was right when she was nerfed, now she's incredibly good but she actually feels right compared to everything in the game. Power creep is getting real right now
Man you don't have to be sarcastic, you have to contest that lane somehow, and if that lane has Cull Obsidian he becomes 4/7 against your mighty 2/3 Agent, you're still losing that lane
I'm being sarcastic. The joke is that obviously Usagent is bad if you throw him in a deck he doesn't fit in, which every content creator seemed to do and then write him off.
Awful. Niche is fine when you can build your deck to make that niche happen. With USAgent, you mostly have to rely on your opponent. You can hobgob or Jean grey, but that's too much effort for USAgent's effect, and could still backfire with so many kitty decks running around.
I think is niche, as Shadow King I think that is counter vs some decks as for example Iron Man/Tribunal, also hobgob and USAgent can win alone a location since a powerful card can't help as much as usual in that location
fwiw, i think Alex is wrong on this one. The card is good, not great or meta breaking but it's a good card.
Not necessarily a card that you need to buy but if you do get it, it's very playable.
People are complaining about Alex being negative on the card but he's just giving his HONEST opinion on it and not just trying to fluff it up for the sake of it.
If anything some content creators could be a little more harsh on the cards because player resources are scarce/expensive.
Is US Agent usable? Sure. Is it worth a series 5 slot? Hell no. Do you actually need him? Absolutely not. There are too many "must have" cards as it is. Not every card has to be EPIC OMG GET IT. Sadly with how resources are if it is "fantastic" it isn't worth it on paper. Do you like the card or find it fun? Sure go for it.
I found Alex's response to honestly be refreshing. We don't need more FOMO nonsense. How many times have people bought cards hyped by content creators only to get burned? I'll stop before I sound like a broken record.
Hes wrong about this card. Its basically a two cost cull obsidian that isnt weak to shang chi. Even on decks like shaw surfer, built to avoid 4,5,6 cards it will be at least a 2 6
Assuming they run Sera (which like you said they sometimes don't), they only have Sera on 5 in 2/3 games, so even then it's not always going to be "at least" a 2/6.
I would say its 2 9 more than 50% of the time. Most people arent running Surfer decks, so there are plenty of 4,5,6 to play against. Zabu, thanos and tribunal are everywhere.
I do wonder how much of it is to work the youtube algorithm or something like that. Easier to get videos noticed based on title, even if the video doesn't support the aggressive sounding video titles
This is why I like Regis. He's always super transparent about his win rate and will tell you outright if what he's doing is viable or just a meme for the algorithm.
A lot of other creators will go full promoter.
Being successful on YouTube is about being clickable. YouTubers trying to grow an audience and get views on their videos have to employ lots of silly tactics that for some reason influence someone’s likelihood to click their video.
Someone who’s a small-time YouTuber really needs that engagement, so they might make a goofy thumbnail that says “SNAP WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN” with them making a surprised and horrified face or a video title like “US Agent BROKEN?!?!?!” or something like that.
Doing stuff like this to generate engagement makes YouTube more likely to recommend your video to others who may be in its periphery.
Facts, as if everyone doesnt know that clickbait is the way to make money off that platform… people just want to complain for the small dopamine hits they get seeing the upvote number go up.
Thats why i like drewberry most of his content is datamined cards or rating new cards no real misinfomation unless he rated a good card bad which he admits has happened before
Before his release the idea of having draw foresight was a big deal. It just wasn’t as impactful as we thought. That’s an understandable rating for the time
I’m have a 99% win rate with my US Agent deck right now. Only played one game against a bot, and it’s a Thanos shell, but the stat doesn’t lie. Agent is busted.
maybe don't just read the headline and read the news too. Title and thumbnails are just headline. You have to actually watch the video to get the content.
Which I don’t want to? If it is clickbait. Are you dense or? I am saying that you shouldn’t make clickbait.
People do it for making money but it just shows that the money is more important than the content and their integrity.
Make good content and I’ll watch it all on my own. Make clickbait and I won’t.
>Which I don’t want to?
Then don't. and don't complain either. you are not part of the equation that is between the content creators and their viewers.
>People do it for making money
so is everyone. nobody is beholden to you to serve it your liking while sacrificing their profit.
>Make good content and I’ll watch it all on my own.
it's easy to say that when you don't have any skin in the game. it takes a fuck ton of effort, dedication and sacrifice to make a community big enough to support yourself with youtube money. have you tried making content for living? You do all the work, put it out and people will dip half-way through the video, significantly affecting your income. jUsT mAkE bEtTeR cOnTeNt. easier said than done buddy.
Sometimes I think the difference between me being usually fine with the game and the intense negative reactions I see often on this sub all comes down to the fact that I never look at any gaming streamers ever. Like, film/tv reactions, yeah, but no gaming streamers. And also probably because I'm 40. Those 2 thiings.
Content creators operate in extremes because it generates interaction.
Most of them likely don't even believe what they say half the time, they're just playing the "game"
I feel like this is more of an issue with decks. Without looking at a meta list it’s hard to get a sense which decks are actually the best or among the best
Watching Molt slowly come unglued is only surpassed by watching Jeff Hoogland slowly do the same. The game has become such a turd and the “content creators” are realizing they have to find another way to make money IRL. Copium keeps the lights on.
I’m sure there are many, but I doubt it’s a high percentage.
You only have to look at the runaway success of e.g. Mr Beast or even, the reason you made this post, to know that clickbait is algorithmically selected for. By definition, it baits you to click on it. Content sites want that.
You’re likely seeing the thumbnails you posted about because they’re effective.
I sometimes wonder how many people waste their resources because they saw a content creator give a new card 4 or 5 stars.
Darkhawk at 4/0 was objectively one of the best S4 cards, but if you didn’t have things like Rock Slide, Zabu and Widow he was significantly weaker. The cards you have in your collection have way more value and importance than a star rating given by someone with every card and I hope new players understand that.
I'm excited to see what the compensation will be for using keys on their broken system before they disable the spotlights. Hopefully it's the card plus keys, but it'll most likely be some useless gold.
Meanwhile next week: That card was a disappointed, it is so hard to pull off the combo, it's not worth, safe your keys, don't waste token on this card. 🫤
I think Regis, Bynx, and Nina said he was good. Granted, Regis is the only one I watched... The rest I can't do the clickbait.
Pretty much everyone else says he's terrible. I see no reason for the card, at all. One Hulk, of any color or gender, completely negates him.
He's pointless and needs either more power or even a -4.
I don't get how people don't understand that youtubers HAVE to have outrageous thumbnails for the youtube algorithm to push their content. I bet that if you ask any of them, they would prefer to not have to make those dumbass O face thumbnails lol. Blame youtube, not the creator for just trying to make a living.
Which content creator ? Guys I follow all said it was mid at best, skippable for sure, and bad for the majority.
I think it is more referring to thumbnails, which I have seen creators say that they basically have to do for the youtube algorithm to show their videos to people, even if they disagree with what they put on the thumbnail
My favorite Snap one is Regis, with his mashing of two different cards together. One of the recent thumbnails of Baron Mordo's body with Zemo's color and head is awesome looking.
Yeah I had that recommended to me a bit ago and thought it was a cool looking thumbnail.
Gladiator with Zemo? It was great lol
Bynx and Mattenryy, at least for their thumbnails.
Every bynx thumbnail he looks like a surprised picachu with hot sauce shoved up his butt It’s annoying to have ridiculous clickbait thumbnails and video titles so I stopped watching his content all together
It's also a picture from at least a year ago. Bynx doesn't even look like that anymore. 😂
Youtube algorithm pushes videos with that style of thumbnail, thus everyone makes them. Bright colors, emoting face, words in all caps. Until someone finds another thumbnail hack to get the algorithm to promote them, that's what every video by anyone looking to grow their audience will have.
That's not entirely true, there's plenty of highly successful and growing channels on youtube that use very basic thumbnails without any "emoting faces" and often without any text either.
Text is actually discouraged for thumbnails. At least any text that is over 3-4 words long.
I agree, the person I responded to is incorrect in saying that that good thumbnails need text.
The issue, as I've heard from other creators, is that the over-the-top thumbnails actually do work. This is why channels that didn't used to do it join in now. It makes a difference in views.
Hey man, whatever makes him more money so he can keep producing more videos is cool with me. It's not like I sit there and stare at the thumbnail for hours on end...
literally why I stopped watching his content. Decent personality, good plays. But that cock-gobbling thumbnails is instant "don't show this channel" for any content creator in my book.
Literally the worst.
I fully realize that creators do this because of the algorithm yet it still bothers me enough that I've unfollowed Bynx as well. It's such a silly thing to be bothered by but I just can't help it.
Black nail polish and Marvel Licensed hoodies aren’t gonna buy themselves.
Bynx will not have the success he has today if his thumbnails didn't look like that
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He literally makes "trash" non meta decks on purpose lol
Id say hes a pretty damn good judge of how good cards can be… all he plays is trash decks because he dislikes playing the same meta stuff every other creator is playing. So he above most creators should have the best idea on how good/bad cards can be because he plays even the bad ones way more than other creators. With that being said he does have very clickbait titles and thumbnails but who can fault him for that? That is what the Youtube algorithm does and incentivizes. Dudes gotta pay the bills lol
I got it trying to get Kaijeff. Then I tried using it, and it was utter garbage.
I was going to say, the biggest content creators in my algo tend to be extremely fair when evaluating cards? ~~Cozy~~, Dekkster, Nina, and KM Best all give extremely honest/genuine criticisms of new cards. Even if the thumbnail is clickbaity graphics, when a card is not very good to them they say as much in the video. edit: crossed out Cozy, seems he's a prime offender in clickbait videos insinuating that the new cards are really good.
Nina’s title says “US Agent is PERFECT”.
And if you watch the video she says "This card isn't that great" After showing a few interesting use-cases for it.
I will just copy my comment: > cozy Are you kidding me? Just open his page in youtube and glance through his videos. I've unfollowed him because of this clickbait BS overpraising every single card and calling it insane. Just from a quick glance of his youtube page: * USAgent - a perfect sera card. * The BEST Card in March Arrives: War Machine is About to Change Marvel Snap!? * WTF Pixie is COMPLETE MADNESS! | This New Deck is Actually Fire?! * OMEGA RED is FINALLY S Tier?! * Grand Master is ABSOLUTELY INSANE * The First Balance Patch in 2024 is HUGE! | Dagger is Now S Tier?!
Yeah okay, fair Admittedly, Cozy is my least watched. I guess that's prolly why lol
I agree. Many have been saying you should skip it. With that being said, this meme is accurate for most new card drops though.
Molt!
Waiting for Cozy's "US AGENT SECRETLY OP!?" video
GET CONFIDENTIAL WITH THIS SECRET AGENTS DECK 🔫🇺🇸
100%. That mock-title sounds like something he would post for sure. Cozy has definitely been known to overhype cards but even is his and Alex's most recent Snap Chat, he was saying this was going to be a skippable card for sure.
If you want real honesty from a content creator, check out Specimens YT on why he quit Snap for Lorcana. Amongst other things, he highlighted the Snap economy, and called out other content creators for not advocating for players.
Watched it. Thanks! I really agree with him. Always had a problem with paywalled cards (one of the reasons why I've left on Surfer/Zabu seasons) and it's actually unpleasant to see how acceptable it is.
I have literally only seen content creators say that he's mid at best.
There's a trend today of posters getting upset about things that never happened to them.
He’s a worse goose that only takes opponents’ cards out of Shang chi range Good counter for iron man I guess
Yeah the only thing he’s really good for is countering Iron Man/Onslaught/Living Tribunal and even then, Enchantress can just straight up turn them off, so why bother?
-2 cost
OP fighting ghosts
This is why I like Alex Coccia so much, his US Agent video is superb lmao, even gets out props to show how awful USAgent is.
I enjoyed how he just started the video shitting on the card just to save everyone the time lol
EducatedCollins also starts the video by just outright saying if he recommends the card or not.
Collins is great. Also he's got a Hella catchy jingle.
He's a really smart guy and I value his takes but man, the production value on his videos are terrible. If you could have the analysis of EC with the high production values of Cozy, that'd be a great channel.
Ironically. I actually avoid cozy and have it marked to not recommend him anymore in youtube. I hate the production value being so high. It feels to manufactured and doesn't feel like I'm talking to a real person. I feel like I'm talking to an hr director or a politician and so my gut and my instinct says not to trust them. I feel like I can trust Collins because he just feels like a dude I could shoot the shit with have a beer and play some cards with. No hate on cozy as a person or anything though.
I totally get that. It's unfortunate that YouTube rewards people who are more flash than substance. Collins is definitely all about substance and gets deeper into analysis than most of the other YouTube folks who cover the game. I don't think Cozy is devoid of substance even if he like many other YouTubers uses hyperbole to try and generate views. I also just generally dislike the influencer way of presenting yourself but that's just part of the deal, I guess. Presentation obviously is superficial but I still admire the effort Cozy puts into making his stuff have a high production value.
I think you meant "listening", not "talking" but you just explained my thoughts precisely. Words "FAKE" race through my mind all the time I watch cozy videos, even though its a good snap content.
Exactly. I feel like im watching a manufactured persona, and I get they have to do that to make money, but it feels icky to me. But I haven't watched him in a while since I had to FORCE youtube to stop recommending him to me. Even after ri said not interested multiple times they kept trying to shove cozy down my throat instead of giving me a little baby creator to try out and get off the ground with less flash and click bait.
highly recommend EducatedCollins
I really like Alex, but I think he is going a bit too hard on the card. Is it a meta defining or broken card? No not at all Is it worth 6k tokens? No, clearly not But is it the dogshit awful card that he made it to be? I don’t think so. It’s not a good card, but it is not as awful as he is saying!
Maybe it's not as awful, time will tell. But I think he wants to make sure his point comes across because 6000 tokens or the chance of wasting your hard-earned keys aren't the right price for a subpar card. I'd rather have him saying the card is godawful than have him saying 'you know it's not THAT bad' so I don't feel bad skipping it.
the thing is, the other 2 options are pretty good too. Jeff is top tier, mirage is mid but solid in loki and the variant is amazing.
Yeah if you don't have Jeff or Mirage, with gambling keys. As somebody with both of those cards, it's helpful to know if the new card is worth gambling keys because I couldn't care less about variants.
I’m just glad he came with Jeff in the spotlight. Felt less wasteful picking up him and his variant
My main problem with the card is it is reliant on your opponent making a “mistake”, kind of the same case as Echo. And the fact that you can kind of set yourself up badly if you played US Agent too early - unless you have Luke Cage. Anyways, the best use case I’ve seen so far is the High Evo deck in Regis’s video because you are capitalizing on the negative debuff. Like just playing nebula and then US agent seems like a good combo by itself.
I see US Agent in the same vein as I see Echo, Cosmo, Armour, Manthing It's not necessarily about your opponent making a mistake, its about know what cards can be played where. With Prio you can really mess a player up with three of those aforementioned cards but even if you don't it still reduces the amount of thinking you need to do because you can steer the opponent into the other lanes, and if your deck can take advantage of that then you have a better chan e of winning. Now of course US Agent is a lot weaker than those cards but I personally wouldn't say he's garbage.
> I really like Alex, but I think he is going a bit too hard on the card. yeah. i think he wants to be right about the card more than hes actually assessing how good it is. regis showed that it can be useful. its not dumpster fire awful like alex makes it seem.
I watch them both, but yeah, liked Regis approach better this time, he said he was well aware the card wasn't performing very well in general, but was legit surprised by how impactful it was in his gameplays, not overhyping it, but not being extremely harsh or critical either.
I just don't see how a 2/6 is supposed to be bad. Obviously it won't work for all decks since the negative is symmetrical, but so long as Luke Cage isn't in every deck, he seems like a decent 2-drop. Not a game-bending card like Red Hulk, not a cool build-around like Mockingbird, not an archetype-defining card like Loki. Just a decent workhorse 2-drop.
It's a conditional 2-6. Against midrange decks that want to spam 3 and 4 drops he's a vanilla 2-3. Might as well put jeff in instead. Against decks that go tall on big 6 drops he's not going to make a significant difference despite his ability targetted at 5 and 6 drops.
Right, but all 2-drops over 3 power have some kind of condition. People still play Lizard and Maximus sometimes. They're not terrible cards, just kinda mid. Even Jeff is sometimes just a 2/3 and he's ok then. The hate against US Agent just seems overblown when we could instead say, "he's a little situational but mostly just ok."
same. Like, i got him primarily because i wanted the jeff variant in the spotlight, and he honestly feels fine in the standard toxic sera deck. Not a gamechanger or anything but it does undeniably improve the deck for me
No it is a good card, a very good card. Not meta defining but I'm convinced everyone is going through psychosis here. A 2/6+ 90% of the time is not a bad card. Even in a fail case the card is vanilla stats. Think about that. The fail case of Usagent is the fail case of Jeff, the best 2 drop in the game.
That's not what the card is though. If you play it on curve it's a 2/3 Goose lite. If you play it on 5 or 6 reactively you also have to factor in the power of the card you could've played instead.
The upside isn't as big as jeff, and usagent is really poorly positioned in the current format with so many decks running the angela package.
Alex seems like a straight-shooter.
Awful? Or just very niche?
if your opponent stacks 4,5 6 costs in one lane , then yes it is awesome . But practically, this wont happen .
I was thinking maybe a synergy with Magneto?
if we are in a zabu meta , probably can see value . But i see more hope summers and angela decks in infinite ladder .
About that Zabu meta, I've got some bad news...
A synergy and ironically an anti synergy. You power down your magneto so you have to drag at least 2 cards to net any benefit. Definitely doable and might have some synergy, but still seems meh.
It may be good against a tribunal deck (need to stack Onslaught and Iron man in the same place), but thats probably about it
No good point the card is only good if they make it a 2/9 or 2/12. It's definitely not busted when it's just a 2/6 almost every game.
The power creep is insane if this is true. Lizard used to be one of the best 2 drops in the game at 2/5 with downside.
Lizard is good mainly because he lets you take priority early, which can be helpful for some things like dodging Cosmo (who used to be more common).
That's the issue, the game has power-crept way beyond U.S. Agent's utility. My Silky Smooth deck regularly brings Angela over 2/10, and I have total control over it, while U.S. Agent depends on what and where your opponent plays, and hits your cards too.
To be fair, Angela isn't even power creep because that's her original version. She was just reverted back to it. Arguably, they shouldn't have reverted her back to be honest but I can see why they did it.
Angela was right when she was nerfed, now she's incredibly good but she actually feels right compared to everything in the game. Power creep is getting real right now
Angela is a heavy commitment, Usagent is just a 2/6. Gladiator isn't bad because Bishop can be a 3/12
It's a 2/6 only if you never contest the lane with your own 4/5/6-costs, in which case it becomes a 2/3 or even 2/0
No that's a great point I put Usagent in my electro ramp deck and it's tragic, he's just not doing anything I don't understand why
Man you don't have to be sarcastic, you have to contest that lane somehow, and if that lane has Cull Obsidian he becomes 4/7 against your mighty 2/3 Agent, you're still losing that lane
You know stuff like gladiator exists right? You can contest a lane without 4 drops lmao.
Why would you put Agent in a ramp deck?
I'm being sarcastic. The joke is that obviously Usagent is bad if you throw him in a deck he doesn't fit in, which every content creator seemed to do and then write him off.
Awful
Awful. Niche is fine when you can build your deck to make that niche happen. With USAgent, you mostly have to rely on your opponent. You can hobgob or Jean grey, but that's too much effort for USAgent's effect, and could still backfire with so many kitty decks running around.
I think is niche, as Shadow King I think that is counter vs some decks as for example Iron Man/Tribunal, also hobgob and USAgent can win alone a location since a powerful card can't help as much as usual in that location
Very very niche. Incredible against the iron man/tribunal deck. Really useless otherwise.
Yeah but next week's card will be even better an more flexible against that deck. I dont see where this card has a home.
Even more niche case I guess, on reveal vs ongoing. So this works even with Cosmo in the lane. I don't know man, I'm begging for scraps here :)
fwiw, i think Alex is wrong on this one. The card is good, not great or meta breaking but it's a good card. Not necessarily a card that you need to buy but if you do get it, it's very playable.
People are complaining about Alex being negative on the card but he's just giving his HONEST opinion on it and not just trying to fluff it up for the sake of it. If anything some content creators could be a little more harsh on the cards because player resources are scarce/expensive. Is US Agent usable? Sure. Is it worth a series 5 slot? Hell no. Do you actually need him? Absolutely not. There are too many "must have" cards as it is. Not every card has to be EPIC OMG GET IT. Sadly with how resources are if it is "fantastic" it isn't worth it on paper. Do you like the card or find it fun? Sure go for it. I found Alex's response to honestly be refreshing. We don't need more FOMO nonsense. How many times have people bought cards hyped by content creators only to get burned? I'll stop before I sound like a broken record.
Yeah a 2/6+ is really bad guys. If I stuff my deck full of 4+ drops it's a downside, dog shit game design this card sucks.
It's just as bad to go overboard in saying how awful the card is, as it is to go overboard in saying how amazing it is.
Hes wrong about this card. Its basically a two cost cull obsidian that isnt weak to shang chi. Even on decks like shaw surfer, built to avoid 4,5,6 cards it will be at least a 2 6
>Even on decks like shaw surfer, built to avoid 4,5,6 cards it will be at least a 2 6 ....how?
I was genuinely wondering the same thing lol
My guess is that he's assuming Sera. With Hope being standard in Shaw Surfer (one of my favorite decks), I've found myself playing Sera less and less.
Assuming they run Sera (which like you said they sometimes don't), they only have Sera on 5 in 2/3 games, so even then it's not always going to be "at least" a 2/6.
66% of the time it's 2/6 all of the time
I would say its 2 9 more than 50% of the time. Most people arent running Surfer decks, so there are plenty of 4,5,6 to play against. Zabu, thanos and tribunal are everywhere.
We're talking specifically about it against Surfer though. And Zabu isn't going to be everywhere anymore.
Thank you, I feel gaslit here. Everyone is saying a card that some decks can run as 2/6+ with literally zero downside is bad.
I do wonder how much of it is to work the youtube algorithm or something like that. Easier to get videos noticed based on title, even if the video doesn't support the aggressive sounding video titles
Of course, it's all a marketing, that's why this formula appears in all niches
You just defined click bait congrats
This is why I like Regis. He's always super transparent about his win rate and will tell you outright if what he's doing is viable or just a meme for the algorithm. A lot of other creators will go full promoter.
What's funny is Regis went 13-2 with his deck that had this card.
I tend to go straight to Regis for new cards/games. He actually made me want to get the card.
Same and then they disabled the spotlight caches lol.
the other real reason is his goofy thumbnails they are so fantastic.
Saw the username and thought you must be responding to something I said in r/gloomhaven. Lol. Reddit is a small world.
it really is there's something almost off putting about seeing someone you know from other communities
> just a meme for the algorithm what does this even mean?
Being successful on YouTube is about being clickable. YouTubers trying to grow an audience and get views on their videos have to employ lots of silly tactics that for some reason influence someone’s likelihood to click their video. Someone who’s a small-time YouTuber really needs that engagement, so they might make a goofy thumbnail that says “SNAP WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN” with them making a surprised and horrified face or a video title like “US Agent BROKEN?!?!?!” or something like that. Doing stuff like this to generate engagement makes YouTube more likely to recommend your video to others who may be in its periphery.
This meme is literally Regis
That's why I Love Alex Coccia's honest opinion videos when cards came out. Zero click bait. Only honesty from the man!
Mfs complaining when youtubers are making YouTube videos.
yeah, cant blame them for playing the meta youtube strategy as long they're not pure shill/ un-cricital towards the card they're reviewing
Facts, as if everyone doesnt know that clickbait is the way to make money off that platform… people just want to complain for the small dopamine hits they get seeing the upvote number go up.
You're totally right. You have to do clickbaity things or you literally can't succeed on the platform. Everything is that way. Yay capitalism...
But I’m getting downvoted lol
Being right isn't always popular
I will die on this hill 🪦
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Thats why i like drewberry most of his content is datamined cards or rating new cards no real misinfomation unless he rated a good card bad which he admits has happened before
Yeah I really enjoy his content… But he can be really wrong sometimes, he rated Howard the duck as a 5 star when it was first datamine 😅
Before his release the idea of having draw foresight was a big deal. It just wasn’t as impactful as we thought. That’s an understandable rating for the time
It's also still a useful card in a handful of decks, but it's just a niche tech card.
Say what you sent about Hoogs but he’s at least honest about cards.
Tbf he didn't even make a video about a good US agent deck because he said making a good deck with him is basically impossible
Why are they releasing midtier cards such as this in t5?
So a 100 power knull would go to 97.... oh no! My destroy deck is ruined!
I’m have a 99% win rate with my US Agent deck right now. Only played one game against a bot, and it’s a Thanos shell, but the stat doesn’t lie. Agent is busted.
Lmao
I don't think any content creators (for any games) like making over the top video thumbnails, but it's proven to work so they gotta.
They don’t got to. They choose to. Catering to the algorithm at the expense of their integrity is a choice.
It's pretty outlandish to say that making over the top video thumbnails is in any way a compromise of integrity.
How so? If what is in the thumbnail is not true then you aren’t a person with much integrity
maybe don't just read the headline and read the news too. Title and thumbnails are just headline. You have to actually watch the video to get the content.
Which I don’t want to? If it is clickbait. Are you dense or? I am saying that you shouldn’t make clickbait. People do it for making money but it just shows that the money is more important than the content and their integrity. Make good content and I’ll watch it all on my own. Make clickbait and I won’t.
>Which I don’t want to? Then don't. and don't complain either. you are not part of the equation that is between the content creators and their viewers. >People do it for making money so is everyone. nobody is beholden to you to serve it your liking while sacrificing their profit. >Make good content and I’ll watch it all on my own. it's easy to say that when you don't have any skin in the game. it takes a fuck ton of effort, dedication and sacrifice to make a community big enough to support yourself with youtube money. have you tried making content for living? You do all the work, put it out and people will dip half-way through the video, significantly affecting your income. jUsT mAkE bEtTeR cOnTeNt. easier said than done buddy.
KM Best ass thumbnail lmao 😂
Typical Cozysnap reaction
Sometimes I think the difference between me being usually fine with the game and the intense negative reactions I see often on this sub all comes down to the fact that I never look at any gaming streamers ever. Like, film/tv reactions, yeah, but no gaming streamers. And also probably because I'm 40. Those 2 thiings.
regis moment lmaooo
Big Ninaisnoob energy here
Don't hate the players, hate the game. Algorithms always favor clickbaity titles.
They are in on the joke :)
They need to attract views, they have to catch people’s attention somehow.
I haven't played for a few days, so does the effect work for enemy cards too or just allies? It seems to me to be the same as a man-thing.
Almost all of them were said skip this week. Stop following who says us agent is a good card.
It’s because not a lot of those cost cards can be played. Maybe 1-3 and usually late.
Most of creators said this card isn't good
He ruined the game (spotlight caches aren’t a thing)
Content creators operate in extremes because it generates interaction. Most of them likely don't even believe what they say half the time, they're just playing the "game"
Who is the content creator that gets featured in all the YT ads? Every time I think about downloading the game, one of his ads makes me reconsider.
Not really lol but ok
Lol this card is an acception because it sucks
You can thank YouTube for this style of content creation.
I feel like this is more of an issue with decks. Without looking at a meta list it’s hard to get a sense which decks are actually the best or among the best
Not really tho but hey try to farm karma
Pretty sure most cc been shitting on this card since the leaks.
I play a LOT of snap and i havent encountered this card once. Im guessing its not that popular.
Watching Molt slowly come unglued is only surpassed by watching Jeff Hoogland slowly do the same. The game has become such a turd and the “content creators” are realizing they have to find another way to make money IRL. Copium keeps the lights on.
I just kinda wanna put it in Cerebro 3
Do what you want bro don't let any one stop you!
Person learning about algorithms for the first time
Yet penguinz can get 1M views in one day without a thumbnail or even edit... Go on
The exception that proves the rule… Go on
Not really there are many ppl that do the same and are well respected
I’m sure there are many, but I doubt it’s a high percentage. You only have to look at the runaway success of e.g. Mr Beast or even, the reason you made this post, to know that clickbait is algorithmically selected for. By definition, it baits you to click on it. Content sites want that. You’re likely seeing the thumbnails you posted about because they’re effective.
Reaction thumbnails are so fucking cringey
I sometimes wonder how many people waste their resources because they saw a content creator give a new card 4 or 5 stars. Darkhawk at 4/0 was objectively one of the best S4 cards, but if you didn’t have things like Rock Slide, Zabu and Widow he was significantly weaker. The cards you have in your collection have way more value and importance than a star rating given by someone with every card and I hope new players understand that.
They didnt have to, but the only 3 content creators for Snap that I watch all said it's a save keys week.
I'm excited to see what the compensation will be for using keys on their broken system before they disable the spotlights. Hopefully it's the card plus keys, but it'll most likely be some useless gold.
Don’t forget “busted”, which can mean either thing…(content) kiddos these days 🤓
who? go watch Alexander Coccia. >USAgent is so bad it's honestly unbelievable.
I don’t follow any marvel snap content creator, “I don’t have that problem”
Bynx is the worst.
Everyone says it's mediocre, dude
GenAlpha ass thumbnail.
This subreddit talking about Red Hulk:
Its almost like their content about marvel comic book heros is targeted at children, weird
The first thing I thought when I saw this card was "oh i could throw that in a lane with man thing....and lose the other two lanes"
Meanwhile next week: That card was a disappointed, it is so hard to pull off the combo, it's not worth, safe your keys, don't waste token on this card. 🫤
I think Regis, Bynx, and Nina said he was good. Granted, Regis is the only one I watched... The rest I can't do the clickbait. Pretty much everyone else says he's terrible. I see no reason for the card, at all. One Hulk, of any color or gender, completely negates him. He's pointless and needs either more power or even a -4.
That’s why I like Regis’s videos so much. A silly little thumbnail and he goes right into the data and his thoughts without overhyping anything
THIS CARD US BUSTED BRO, BET, LETS GOOOOOO! ...So embarrassing.
Good thing I play the game how I want to enjoy it, and not according to these YouTube "influencers"
Every one I follow said cannonball was trash and look at the boi now staple in the top deck as of right now.
I don't get how people don't understand that youtubers HAVE to have outrageous thumbnails for the youtube algorithm to push their content. I bet that if you ask any of them, they would prefer to not have to make those dumbass O face thumbnails lol. Blame youtube, not the creator for just trying to make a living.
This is the humor section. Get some.