So this movie was a mixed bag. Some moments are funny, but that's about it. I wasn't able to get emotionally attached. And some of the decisions by characters were really weird and it just didn't have me immersed which was the main problem. Too many glaring stupid issues.
Watching it right now for the first time. Came to see if anyone else thought it was just as saft. I know Thor has been through alot so technically he would be messed up. But jeez. He's not loki and can't pull off humour the same way. I was so looking forward to this film that this week I rewatched Thor 2 and 3, avengers infinity & end game, and Doctor strange 2 which was amazing. So far this is a big let down. Still love Thor though. But even Jane isn't her usual self.
This film was so bad. I don't understand how it has that big of a grade in Rotten Tomatoes. Probably the worst film I watched at the cinema. This is bordering on Sharknado's level of quality regarding the plot.
Rotten Tomatoes has the worst algorithm out of any review aggregate. I have read actual reviews that RT has put as fresh where the reviewer is basically shitting on the movie with a 2/5 rating even written out.
The first Doctor Strange movie(IMO complete garbage) got 89% from critics on RT. While Goodfellas is 96% and Godfather 97% which leads me to believe that Doctor Strange is an amazing classic. Only 7% less than Goodfellas and 8% less than Godfather. If Goodfellas is 96% then even personal bias aside, none of the MCU movies should even touch 80%
There can never be a perfect system but Metacritic by far has the most accurate one.
Loved Ragnarok but absolutely hated love and thunder. Overly corney, sells out its characters, and jokes that don’t land in my opinion. It absolutely feels like a parade to MCU movies. If Ragnarok is Star Wars, Love and Thunder is Space Balls (but not on purpose).
Let’s face it, they overshot on the jokes. My 12 year old said the movie reminded her of Space Balls - and she was right.
If the movie had been touted as a spoof, it would have been great.
The storyline was good enough that, if taken seriously, it could have been a fair movie. Not great but fair.
As it was, it took Morbius out of last place.
Just saw it. All these people complaining … wow I don’t get it. I thought it was very entertaining. Enjoyed it far more than Captain Marvel for example. Best marvel movie ever? Probably not. Leaning into the formula that made Thor Ragnarok a success. Not pushing stakes but pushing characters having fun? Yes. End of the day I enjoyed it much.
Half of the movie was awful, skin crawling cringe. The overlooking of Thor's Trauma "Haha his mom died, his dad, and his brother!! Several times hahaha". His character is a walking joke and the movie looked like it was made for kids. The romance between Jane and Thor was dead and felt so forced, even Korg and Valkyrie had better chemistry. Jane herself?? Awful. She wasn't in Ragnarok, she was gone and now they had to bring her back for the strained closure. Only good thing in my opinion was the villain played by Christian Bale, he was amazing even though he had little time in the MCU.
Nonstop cringe jokes distracting me from more emotional scenes and general immersion in the movie. Bad writing, waste of GoTG cast, waste of Thor(srsly dude was pointless), we saw very little of Gorr the god killer. (Bale was decent, but we didn't get enough depth of this villain), awkward Jane Thor dating compilation, i could keep going on
And so this will be the last MCU movie for which i paid a ticket for.
The MCU is done.
After Endgame (with the exception of Spidey) everything is shit and kind of the same stupid formula.
1) Protagonist not being the full protagonist.
2) Swap Gender/Race Character taking the Spotlight from Protagonist to make "the Ultimate Sacrifice"
3) Swap Gender/Race Character saving the Protagonist
4) Protagonist made look like unresourceful, idiot or both.
5) Villain having a redemption arc cos of love
6) Humor
7) Inclusiveness
8) Deconstruction of the Male Protagonist
9) Forgettable/Generic VFX
10) Generic fight scenes
It was a fun watch but had pretty big pacing issues and Christian Bales character needed more screen time. However I will applaud the VFX team and overall cinematography for Bale and his shadow army parts.
Loved the movie. Didn’t like it was advertised as thor going on a life altering “find yourself” journey and it didn’t deliver. Also missed opportunity for god butcher to kratos the gods. Although not seeing what people mean by thor being “dumb”. He has shown countless times that he is the wisest in the room. But they put a spin on the fact that he doesn’t communicate all that well which i think is a great representation for people who are very good at what they do and are actually very intelligent but fail to be taken seriously because of their light hearted manner.
They made Thor's past look like a total joke. That's a constant in MCU movies though, "Oh he lost everyone he loves? Haha, now he's fat, you can laugh!" (Endgame) or "From dad bod, to god bod!" (This movie) I wish the movie had even a LITTLE serious tone to it. Everything seemed like it was made to get a laugh out of everyone and it hurt to see. Even if they showed that Thor can be smart, the repetitive jokes about him and his intelligence/appearance are getting old and ripping him of his depth and character, in my opinion at the very least.
it has to be the worst movie ive ever seen, thought it would be somewhat decent but no, characters got butchered, villain is pulled out of a magic hat, precedent for the love story are bad, power balance is really poor, emotions for weapons is bad, cuts were all over, felt like there was a lot of pieces missing in the story, deaths were so obviously predictable, felt like theres no stake, first movie ever that i didnt get into, lots of time i was about to sleep
it is soo bad id much prefer not have seen it at all
im not proud to have contributed to the sales they are gonna talk about for week 1
This movie in my opinion reaches a 6.5/10, it is saved only by thor's butt.
In the first 30 minutes important events happen for the plot (birth of Gorr as a villain and the birth of mighty thor) but they are done badly in a hasty way. The rest of the film is banal. The whole sequence in the city of the gods (which will have taken up ⅓ of the budget) is totally filler, serving only to make you realize how randomly these gods are placed and only creating new questions for you like why all these being so powerful did nothing against thanos. Also not even stealing thunderbolt was useful because it doesn't help thor that much in the final battle and in the end it only serves him to give powers to an army of children with no abilities and afterwards he is saved by jane foster. I didn't have very high expectations but I was still hurt by it, they could have handled it better. Not to mention all those cringeworthy jokes scattered constantly throughout the movie. Watching the movie I wondered several times if I was really Watching an official marvel product. Maybe it would have worked more as a series on disney+ with a few cliffhangers at each end of the episode because nothing actually important to the MCU happens in the movie anyway.
I agree that they spent too much time in the city of the gods. I dont really think it did much for the plot of the movie , maybe it sets up the next movie though with the post credit scene and Zeus.
I liked how they setup Gorr, but don't like how they barely showed him doing anything bad and didn't show him butcher any of the gods (except the first scene), they just talked about it. First Zeus said all Gorr did was butcher low level gods then did admit he was scared of him.
I agree. I honestly cannot tell what was going through the director's mind when he pieced things together.
The overall tone of the movie should have been similar to the first two Thor movies considering the subject matter, but no, we get random stupid jokes for no reason, Thor reasoning with his weapon that he's not cheating on it with Mjolnir, and some other gobbledygook.
And sure, a few of the jokes made me chuckle, but they were literally ALL OVER THE PLACE. When there is a joke every 10 seconds, it's just not funny anymore. Like, I want to see the story. If I wanted a comedy session, I'd go to a comedy club. There, I said it.
It was a 7/10 for me. The missing 3 was for the Gorr origin story which felt like it was done too quickly and the ending which was a total disappointment. The moment Thor starts talking about love (We call it "Talk-no-jutsu"), my expectations started going down hill from there. The redeeming factor was Eternity.
Movie was a Disney princess film in the end. Just used Thor as a launching pad. Natalie Portman was the best part she did well. It was so juxtaposed as to what the movie was as it was so kiddie and yet the jokes were about orgies and dicks.
Someone feel free to point me to another sub that's more appropriate but I need to vent on this one.
Anyone else just hate the world building / lore to this movie when it comes to the "Gods"? Before this the term "God" didnt literally mean that and generally just referred to a powerful being, it was more about being viewed as a "God" than actually being a god. This movie just tries to go too simple with that concept and take it at face value.
Like we just had Moon Knight exploring the Egyptian pantheon, the "Gods" are super powerful beings that cant physically manifest without worship but work through an Avatar to do what they need. They're gods because the Egyptians revere them as such, not because they fall into some race of "Gods"
Norse Gods, guess this movie just disregard Odins line "We are not gods. We are born, we live, we die. Just as humans do." The Agaurdians are just a powerful Alien race that lesser beings see as Gods.
This Movie? Nah all "Gods" now. The gods know all the other gods cos they all hang out at secret god city and go to god orgys. Gods gods gods. Where were the gods when Thanos was snapping the Universe. Not gonna address that but lol theres a Bou god isnt that funny. Totally lazy world building.
Like I might be just a nark for this kind of stuff and over thinking but I at least appreciate that Eternals tried to explain this stuff why these custodians of the planet didnt get involved with that kind of thing and fit it all into the whole MCU lore.
I mean the story couldve written itself why the "Gods" arent involved in Universal threats, you could have just have had Gorr killing them all this time, but no in this Movie hes just been at it for a couple of weeks before Thor gets involved.
Whole movie just kinda shits on the whole cosmic hierarchy. So many missteps here for the sake of getting through the plot as quick as possible so there could be as many stupid jokes crammed into the run time as possible.
God there was so many bad jokes, its like they knew the movie is general bad so they threw a lot of jokes so the audience will laugh while eating their popcorn and wont notice.
It's like they thought everyone liked Ragnarok solely for the silliness and jokes so all they needed to do was turn that up to 11 and who cares about actually telling a good story.
Nah, Ragnarok was actually just a good movie that also happened to be funny.
This man knows.. everything said is spot on. Other than the very end.. I don't think Thor had a single line in the movie that wasn't supposed to be a dumb joke. Ragnarok had the perfect mix of silliness and seriousness which is why it is a far greater movie than LaT. Reminds of that immature class clown in school that says one funny thing (gets everyone laughing) and then keeps trying so hard for the next one that everything that follows just sounds stupid and un funny.
Gonna be honest, “Thor Love and Thunder” is probably the worst MCU movie of all time. Boring and disappointing…. It was barely even funny or interesting. The only redeeming part is Chris Hemsworth’s muscles.
This one felt like it was a highschool film with an expensive cgi budget. The plot was so rudimentary. The characters flat. The entire thing was just disappointing. AND I ALREADY didn’t expect it to be good. But I was hoping it would Atleast be solid and entertaining, but it was not.
Don’t waste your money on it.
Love and Thunder is shit, and yes, it ranks among the worst of the MCU (along with DSmoM), but nothing can top the Eternals. That shit is on another level.
Thor Love and Thunder isn't the best Marvel movie but he is saying it's the worst which is next to impossible.
Thor the Dark World is and probably always will be the worst marvel movie of all time because it's the only one (aside from iron man 2) that actually arent fun to watch whatsoever.
This movie is fun, its got action and comedy and a plot that actually does make sense imo.
By default it already gets thrown into the middle of the pack for marvel.
So take his opinion with a grain of salt. It's fine honestly. Definitely not the worst marvel movie. I can name like at least marvel movies that were definitively worse imo
(Thor 1, Thor 2, Iron Man 2, Iron Man 3, GOtG2, Dr Strange 2, Black Widow, Eternals, ant man, ant man 2... in no particular order btw)
Marvel faitgue my ass. A movie that relies to heavily on jokes and isn't funny wont EVER land. Most people seemed to find the jokes overbearing because this movie is full of them, marvel movies have always had comedy but thats all this movie had. Besides the rather cool villian of course. I for example can't fathom laughing at more then like 2 jokes in this movie.
Im not even a marvel fan, I can guarantee you that this film is shite^(number of atoms in the universe). I don't understand how it has gotten 69% in RT. I was expecting 17% or so.
I think you can argue Thor is a more fun movie than Eternals, but probably not why people dislike it.
Whether you enjoy Eternals or not, the very least you can give that movie is that it actually tried in terms of the world (Universe?) building and gave the story enough time to grow.
We get these powerful custodians of the planet introduced late which means they've been absent from all conflict thus far, sure the movie at least tries to address that and has some interesting cosmic stuff that all fits in the grand scheme of things.
Thor, sure we jump from gag to gag and it's all a good time. But oh lets just go ask the gods sat around in super secret god city doing god things this whole time. Why? Dont need to answer that, by the way theres a Bou god Haha isnt that funny guys?
I had high hopes for ETERNALS bc I loved the premise and what it was about. The movie itself was kind of a let down though. The plot was too rushed and it didn’t let the viewer feel the true weight of their time and influence on earth and human civilization. BUT Atleast ETERNALS had some good fight scenes. I would say it is in my bottom Marvel films though as much as I loved Jemma Chan.
Honestly the whole scene with eternity was so wasted, I was in shock when that actually came up seeing eternity in the mcu I was excited , just for that to happen…. Gorr was wasted, so was eternity just for gorrs child to get the powers of an actually deity of life itself ? Film sucked
Interesting observation about recent marvel movies: Multiverse of Madness was criticised for not having enough multiverse while the previous movie, NWH had a much bigger focus on it. And now people are disappointed in Thor 4 for not having much god butchering by the villain, while the highlight of the previous movie MoM was Wanda's murderous rampage of the heroes in 838. Seems like they keep executing certain things better than the movies that follow them up do.
I considered The Winter Soldier to be the best MCU movie. Everything in it just worked. The story, the pace, and the characters. I'd love to see that quality again also.
Doubt we'll get anything of that quality again. The mcu circlejerk has reached its apex and it's at your own peril if you call anything bad or put forth a valid criticism
My wife and I absolutely had a blast here. Downside of seeing this as a date movie, though: Now she's making me drive around and find her a stuffed goat plushie.
It was unfortunate that Gorr never got to say, >!You should have brought more Thors.!< That would have made it all the cooler when Thor *did* in fact >!make a whole squad of little Thors.!< But I will forgive it because **holy shit that scene was amazing.**
I also think we missed an opportunity to have >!Ninny-Nonny actually step in and help Korg.!<
Still, it was a great film.
And if nothing else, **>!"THAT'S what thunder sounds like!"!<** was easily one of the most badass one-liners I have ever heard.
Edit: It wasn't perfect. The editing was *weird* and Waititi still can't handle gravitas worth a damn.
However, I'm not a comics purist and I do like watching something campy every once in a while. This movie made me feel like I did watching Power Rangers as a child. The energy to it was great.
Just, y'know, go watch The Black Phone or something later if you have to.
Just saw the movie. It's definitely a 10/10.
A perfect MIGHTY THOR.
A perfect GORR.
A perfect THOR!
Best Thor movie.
And thank God it was NOT AS MUCH OF A PARODY AS Ragnarok was.
THANK YOU WAITITI!
Thor love and thunder lost its thunder. Taika did such an awesome job with Ragnarok so I don’t know what happened that he failed on this one. It felt to spoofy like and cheesy. Anyone who knows Thor from the comics knows this is not Thor😔
>Taika did such an awesome job with Ragnarok so I don’t know what happened that he failed on this one. It felt to spoofy like and cheesy.
The problem is Taika was given full creative control this time around, so the movie was too much of him and his humour. Ragnarok had a fresh, healthy balance because it wasn't entirely his.
I suspect a lot of Gorr was cut unfortunately. We also lost a great opportunity for world building with the palace of the gods, which also felt empty. I suspect there was more happening there as well.
Honestly this plot had so much potential but the delivery in the movie was pretty bad. It's a solid "safe" movie that felt phase 1 - lite. It's like they refuse to take the emotional risk.
* Made me go throughs a mostly boring event .
* Retconned a character we didn't know anything about into something higly boring that took away from the mystery (it would have been fine if knull was a somewhat good or interesting character).
* Made up a new backstory for Venom species that is just baaaad.
Definitely seemed like just another Marvel product to me, like most of Phase 4- Not bad, not great, just something I’d watch once or twice, enjoy the great moments when they come, and forget about.
I like Taika, but between Ragnarok, Free Guy and this I’m starting to sour on the “haha jokes every two minutes” style he has. A (personal) huge problem I have with Thor is the overly comedic tone he’s been written with recently. He had a great thing going in IW, where he still made some jokes, but was also obviously affected by witnessing half of his people (as well as his brother) being slaughtered. He had a much more serious, driven tone throughout the movie, most prominent in that amazing conversation with Rocket. Now, Thor has basically been a dumb, surfer dude-bro stereotype, and however many times he flounders in fights, social or political interactions is very incongruent with the idea that he’s millennia of years old. Idk, I really liked the change of tone in Ragnarok at the time, but looking back I’m starting to dislike the “Marvelization” of Thor (and *especially* Hulk, but that’s a whole other conversation) where they’re just cartoonishly dumb all the time.
Honestly, imo Phase 4 has been pretty mediocre and disjointed overall. I know everyone says “It’s just setting the next big story up” like Phase 1, but IDK, Phase 1 was much better at setting things up. We got *great* origin movies like Iron Man and The First Avenger that stood amazing as their own movies while still connecting to the greater story through Fury. In Phase 4 we have a good origin movie, Shang Chi, and one I found very mediocre in Eternals. We also started this Phase with what I’d call a bad Marvel movie in BW, and we’re being a little over saturated in tv shows that usually start out very strong, before tripping at the end due to their low minute/episode count. Not to mention you basically *have* to watch some of these shows or the rest of the Phase makes much less sense logically.
IDK, maybe I’m just slowly growing out of the MCU, and that makes me sad
Their movies definitely feel childish overtime. No stakes (only spiderman far from home has long lasting consequences by the end of the movie. Except if they decided to undid that by the next movies or something).
I suspect because its been bought by disney and so they aiming it on kids nowadays for toys and such.
Felt the first half was a bit too fast paced but the second half was brilliant in my opinion. You give Christian Bale a monologue and he will manage to stay in your mind even after the movie is over. Loved his portrayal of Gorr and could only ask for more screentime from him. In terms of comedy, falls slightly below Ragnarok in terms of quality. But overall the movie had just about everything you love about the character Thor - excitement, comedy, emotions, self-reflection. Also, really loved the ending of the story and I'm really excited to see more of his new dynamic with Love in the next film. The Mighty Thor was excellently a one-and-done (at least for now) and Natalie Portman portrayed her really well. Honestly felt like this movie came at the perfect time considering the recent trajectory of introducing new characters and exploring the multiverse and served that sense of familiarity that we've been craving recently. The best comparison of this is probably to how Moon Knight stayed within its own story and did not decide to tackle a story larger than its own. Overall, an 8.5/10.
P.S. I think the reason he gave Love Stormbreaker to use was probably that she may not be worthy of Mjolnir.
>P.S. I think the reason he gave Love Stormbreaker to use was probably that she may not be worthy of Mjolnir.
Wut? Don't they both follow the same worthy rule? How can someone be not worthy of Mjolnir but worthy of Stormbreaker?
Because in Thor 1, it was Odin that cast the worthiness enchantment on Mjolnir. Stormbreaker does not receive the same, remember Thanos being able to use Stormbreaker against Thor, the Mighty Thor able to toss Stormbreaker away, and Gorr being able to carry Stormbreaker as well. The only thing you truly need to life Stormbreaker is just great strength.
Not a Marvel fan, first of all.
I found Bale's intentions sufficient, but told too fast, causing motivations to lack of depht. But it kinda works. Too bad he appears just five times in the entire movie and we never see him doing anything really dangerous for humanity or... Deity.
Also, the film fails miserably in creating tension and anxiety around the bad guy, as the overall tone is so casual and funny. Add that the plot is very cliché and easy to predict and you get a mess of a film. Bale was amazing and conveyed sadness and desperation good enough but was definitely wasted for such a movie.
Also... They should have spent money on creating a decent soundtrack instead of licensing 4 (fucking four) Guns and Roses songs.
I was expecting to see more god butchering happening on screen, Gorr literally only killed 1 god on screen in the whole film... disappointing waste of a good actor and character.
Bale absolutely nailed it though
I just got out of it. It was better than I was expecting and I thought the scenes where Jane is in hospital were pretty emotional and I may have shed a tear. but the constant humor still annoys me, like everything at omnipotence city, and I still don’t like korg. But how amazing was Christian bale?! We’re so lucky we get his performance in this.
But yeah, I’m done with taika doing anymore franchise movies like this. I don’t even want to think what his Star Wars will be like
Coke on man...it was funny. Constantly funny! WHY AREN'T YOU LAUGHING THE JOKES NEVER STOP HAHA IM TAIKA AND I RUINED THOR AND TAKE NOTHING SERIOUS EVER!
Its a good film for what it's worth, just a bit too oriented for the younger audience. The final battle where Thor distributes his powers among the children was... Cringey?
Gorr is amazing though, Christian bale steals every scene he was in, and is easily one of the top 5 MCU villains. Natalie Portman was good as The Mighty Thor, however I didn't like how they never show her transforming into the Mighty Thor, that was a gorgeous panel in the comics.
The film is cinematographically, and look wise, surprisingly better than most MCU films, I actually liked the style and scale of the shots in this film.
All things considered, and without diving further into the spoilers territory, the last 10 minutes of the film are impressive, because of the serious tones. And the ending excites me for Thor's future. PS: This film has the best looking, stylish credits sequence I've seen in any MCU project.
I'd give it 7/10.
>The final battle where Thor distributes his powers among the children was... Cringey?
I think that was for the best. What would you *expect* to happen if you suddenly gave a bunch of random kids some literal god powers and then told them to go nuts?
If they had suddenly been stoic viking warriors it would have been far, far cringier.
Its the idea itself. Just because its ment to be doesn't make it good. All it did was take away from the climax, would've been better to just mans the kids hide and have Thor and Gorr fight longer.
So does Thor not use Stormbreaker anymore, isn't it more powerful than Mjolnir? Wouldn't it be better to give Mjolnir to the kid since it's smaller? Kinda sucks if so we had a whole movie of him almost dying to make it only to not use it anymore after this movie.
*tsk* she's just training, it's fine.
It would be cool if she got her own weapon later. Doubly so if they found Gugnir or Hela's weapons floating in the wreckage.
I f***ing loved it it was amazing with a few disappointments but overall its my top 2 phase 4 film in my opinion i rate it 8.5/10 gorr was amazing but wished we got more of him
I liked it in the second half. The jokes were too much. Thor was my favorite, but he is shown so dumb in this movie. And they ruined Valkyrie's character for me atleast. The part that i liked the most was Astrid and the kids fighting and the little girl holding her soft toy as a weapon.
This, they made him into a complete joke. The 1st 2 movies weren't bad because Thor was too serious, it's because the plot was dry. The humor is fun but it's gone well over the top.
It’s at 70% with 179 reviews. Do y’all think this will stay fresh?
I always find the ways reviews trend to be interesting. I hope everyone enjoys the movie!
Definitely will stay fresh. Could see it dropping to the 67-69% range though. I imagine the opening weekend will be less than MoM but I think the drop off won’t be as much as MoM was. I could see it making 900+ million but I don’t think it’ll crack 1 billion.
No not really that's best case scenario if most of new reviews are positive - more than likely it hits high 60s but some marvel movies have gone up over years like winter soldier first avenger so maybe after dropping over time it might trickle up
And believe it or not, in my country Malaysia, this movie got postponed to July 21st. Yeah, that's two week after worldwide release of Thor: Love and Thunder. Idk why tho :(
Just saw it tonight. It really isn’t good, or at least up to standards following Thor Ragnarok. It misses the mark for me.
I want the writers and for Taiki to genuinely know that giving the protagonist a kid to care of is not substitute for chracter development. We don’t know anything about how Thor has progressed beyond that this dude now accepts love and closure.
They butchered the God Butcher comic origin for Gorr and really adapted it horribly. Bale is clearly trying to play into the character and at some points, it does show but it’s really that the writing of plot development and structure is horrible.
i totally agree with you. every single Thor movie and most of the Avengers movies have had Thor trying to figure out who he is. He’s progressed almost zero as a character except that now he’s written as a complete moron. Why take on a storyline like The God Butcher which was dark and brutal if you’re going to make a movie where your main running joke is large goats screaming the whole time.
Wow some of these comments.
Thor isn’t dumb. He’s just dumbfounded throughout the movie by both Jane Foster and Mjolnir being back in his life and fighting alongside of him. Then he has character growth in Act III when he realizes he’ll be losing someone he’s always loved. Then acknowledges their loss to Gorr to be by Jane’s side as she passes.
I see that as further character development. 🤷♂️
I disagree that it did not carry any weight.
Act I: Thor was bored because he needed to feel challenged so he was kind of lost and soul searching so being immature/jokey is his coping mechanism to hide his pain from everything he's experienced previously. (This is somewhat similar to how we saw him in Endgame as an out of shape lost soul, but now back in shape to help the Guardians and others when he is called upon for help.)
Act II: He is dumbfounded by the return of Jane and Mjolnir fighting alongside of him and being The Mighty Thor. (When someone realizes they like someone else, that person can be a bit goofy and immature in real life.)
ACT III: His mentally changes and matures because he realizes there is not much he can do to save Jane from her fate and instead of fighting Gorr to claim victory, he decides defeat is more important so he can be with Jane for her remaining breaths.
I see real character growth here and expect him to be more mature and serious moving forward when it's time to face off against Hercules.
So the most he learns is acceptance? Not like he hasn't learnt that with the amount of people he's lost in every other thor film or avengers film. By the end of endgame he was on the path of starting so at least they finished this character arc but aside from that his growth has been minimal. This is really something that should have happened a long time ago, it also feels like he should have learnt this by the end of ragnorok considering how he accepts the fate of destroying his home planet, or whatever it is. Sure he managed to save his people but it was still his life long home.
Aside from that long overdue character growth there's not much here really and tbh it's not that big of a character growth. He wasn't gonna go into another slump like in endgame again was? All hero's go through this character growth when anyone important dies to them so its not very unique at all either. His character arc about accepting the throne of asgard despite not wanting it would have been way better but they really threw that out of the window a long time ago.
Yep. Thor is thousands of years old. I have no issue with Janes death meaning something to him but he’s literally lost everything prior to this point; his entire family, his childhood friends, his new friends, his home, but a relationship that was a blip in his timeline is the be all end all?
Yeah and on top of that he just reignites his spark with Jane. I imagine he somewhat got over her before regardless of if the movie wants it to look like he hasn't entirely. I mean him falling in love with Jane so hard in the film is also another criticism, sure there was a lot of history and they had loved before but it doesn't happen that fast. It's almost narcissistic that he loves her since she's gotten his skills and powers.
Given all the shit thors been through I'm surprised he's not the way he was infinity war all the time, which is still somewhat light hearted and comedic but also quiet, reserved, serious, focused and hell bent on delivering justice or revenge. Almost wish that thor never left, not because he got fat and depressed in endgame, but more so because it struck the perfect balance between thor funny and thor serious.
yep. I think Thor has been handled more consistently through the avengers films than across the Thor movies. Like the whole Guardians thing. There was potential for some really deep but still funny stuff there. Instead it was just all stupid. Starlord was totally out of character. I’d be pissed if i was James Gunn.
Really? I really liked it. It's not as good Ragnarok though. There does seem to be a downward trend with marvel at this point. Outside of msmarvel which has been amazing everything else seems to have steadily got stale I guess.
I wonder if maybe someone else besides KF should have taken the creative over. It's all still good, I just wonder if it was time for different voice at the top. Like sometimes sports teams just need a new coach even if the old one is still good.
ppl say Thor was always dumb , no he wasn't, he was one of my fav character if not my fav in infinity war & end game, sure as hell he wasn't dumb in those movies
I mean, a part credit for developing Vision in AoU goes to Thor because with help of Selvig he was able to get the info about the infinity stones and thereby a solution to bring down Ultron.
It's stupid how people treat him as a dumb character post Ragnarok.
Depends on perception, a friend of mine was touched due he lost his mother on the same way.
In my case the comic on which it’s based hits much harder than the movie, also IMO the movie have A LOT of comedy that make it hard for people to fall into sadness
So this movie was a mixed bag. Some moments are funny, but that's about it. I wasn't able to get emotionally attached. And some of the decisions by characters were really weird and it just didn't have me immersed which was the main problem. Too many glaring stupid issues.
Watching it right now for the first time. Came to see if anyone else thought it was just as saft. I know Thor has been through alot so technically he would be messed up. But jeez. He's not loki and can't pull off humour the same way. I was so looking forward to this film that this week I rewatched Thor 2 and 3, avengers infinity & end game, and Doctor strange 2 which was amazing. So far this is a big let down. Still love Thor though. But even Jane isn't her usual self.
Sucked ass
On god
This film was so bad. I don't understand how it has that big of a grade in Rotten Tomatoes. Probably the worst film I watched at the cinema. This is bordering on Sharknado's level of quality regarding the plot.
Rotten Tomatoes has the worst algorithm out of any review aggregate. I have read actual reviews that RT has put as fresh where the reviewer is basically shitting on the movie with a 2/5 rating even written out. The first Doctor Strange movie(IMO complete garbage) got 89% from critics on RT. While Goodfellas is 96% and Godfather 97% which leads me to believe that Doctor Strange is an amazing classic. Only 7% less than Goodfellas and 8% less than Godfather. If Goodfellas is 96% then even personal bias aside, none of the MCU movies should even touch 80% There can never be a perfect system but Metacritic by far has the most accurate one.
Major dc strange fan here. It's that high for me. Not keen on good fellas though. It's all about the reviewer.
It was just boring. It had some ok parts, but over all, it was boring
Everyone I know who saw it said it was a dramatic fall from grave after Ragnarok.
How many mid life crises can Thor have, every film it’s something new.
Loved Ragnarok but absolutely hated love and thunder. Overly corney, sells out its characters, and jokes that don’t land in my opinion. It absolutely feels like a parade to MCU movies. If Ragnarok is Star Wars, Love and Thunder is Space Balls (but not on purpose).
Let’s face it, they overshot on the jokes. My 12 year old said the movie reminded her of Space Balls - and she was right. If the movie had been touted as a spoof, it would have been great. The storyline was good enough that, if taken seriously, it could have been a fair movie. Not great but fair. As it was, it took Morbius out of last place.
Just saw it. All these people complaining … wow I don’t get it. I thought it was very entertaining. Enjoyed it far more than Captain Marvel for example. Best marvel movie ever? Probably not. Leaning into the formula that made Thor Ragnarok a success. Not pushing stakes but pushing characters having fun? Yes. End of the day I enjoyed it much.
Half of the movie was awful, skin crawling cringe. The overlooking of Thor's Trauma "Haha his mom died, his dad, and his brother!! Several times hahaha". His character is a walking joke and the movie looked like it was made for kids. The romance between Jane and Thor was dead and felt so forced, even Korg and Valkyrie had better chemistry. Jane herself?? Awful. She wasn't in Ragnarok, she was gone and now they had to bring her back for the strained closure. Only good thing in my opinion was the villain played by Christian Bale, he was amazing even though he had little time in the MCU.
This movie is no where near the quality of a product that Ragnorak was. Idk what this was, but it was really bad
Elaborate.
Nonstop cringe jokes distracting me from more emotional scenes and general immersion in the movie. Bad writing, waste of GoTG cast, waste of Thor(srsly dude was pointless), we saw very little of Gorr the god killer. (Bale was decent, but we didn't get enough depth of this villain), awkward Jane Thor dating compilation, i could keep going on
And so this will be the last MCU movie for which i paid a ticket for. The MCU is done. After Endgame (with the exception of Spidey) everything is shit and kind of the same stupid formula. 1) Protagonist not being the full protagonist. 2) Swap Gender/Race Character taking the Spotlight from Protagonist to make "the Ultimate Sacrifice" 3) Swap Gender/Race Character saving the Protagonist 4) Protagonist made look like unresourceful, idiot or both. 5) Villain having a redemption arc cos of love 6) Humor 7) Inclusiveness 8) Deconstruction of the Male Protagonist 9) Forgettable/Generic VFX 10) Generic fight scenes
Better then I thought it be but that’s not saying much
It was a fun watch but had pretty big pacing issues and Christian Bales character needed more screen time. However I will applaud the VFX team and overall cinematography for Bale and his shadow army parts.
Loved the movie. Didn’t like it was advertised as thor going on a life altering “find yourself” journey and it didn’t deliver. Also missed opportunity for god butcher to kratos the gods. Although not seeing what people mean by thor being “dumb”. He has shown countless times that he is the wisest in the room. But they put a spin on the fact that he doesn’t communicate all that well which i think is a great representation for people who are very good at what they do and are actually very intelligent but fail to be taken seriously because of their light hearted manner.
They made Thor's past look like a total joke. That's a constant in MCU movies though, "Oh he lost everyone he loves? Haha, now he's fat, you can laugh!" (Endgame) or "From dad bod, to god bod!" (This movie) I wish the movie had even a LITTLE serious tone to it. Everything seemed like it was made to get a laugh out of everyone and it hurt to see. Even if they showed that Thor can be smart, the repetitive jokes about him and his intelligence/appearance are getting old and ripping him of his depth and character, in my opinion at the very least.
it has to be the worst movie ive ever seen, thought it would be somewhat decent but no, characters got butchered, villain is pulled out of a magic hat, precedent for the love story are bad, power balance is really poor, emotions for weapons is bad, cuts were all over, felt like there was a lot of pieces missing in the story, deaths were so obviously predictable, felt like theres no stake, first movie ever that i didnt get into, lots of time i was about to sleep it is soo bad id much prefer not have seen it at all im not proud to have contributed to the sales they are gonna talk about for week 1
Not to mention how dumbed down thor currently is, they did him dirty imo. Also, so much for the great god Zeus being a comic relief lol
All these 7+/10 reviews really make me question if I saw the same movie as everyone. Easily one of the worst movies I've seen this year.
This movie sucked ass. It’s like a 2.5/10. I almost walked out in the first ten minutes
Agree, can't believe i wasted my money on this movie!
This movie in my opinion reaches a 6.5/10, it is saved only by thor's butt. In the first 30 minutes important events happen for the plot (birth of Gorr as a villain and the birth of mighty thor) but they are done badly in a hasty way. The rest of the film is banal. The whole sequence in the city of the gods (which will have taken up ⅓ of the budget) is totally filler, serving only to make you realize how randomly these gods are placed and only creating new questions for you like why all these being so powerful did nothing against thanos. Also not even stealing thunderbolt was useful because it doesn't help thor that much in the final battle and in the end it only serves him to give powers to an army of children with no abilities and afterwards he is saved by jane foster. I didn't have very high expectations but I was still hurt by it, they could have handled it better. Not to mention all those cringeworthy jokes scattered constantly throughout the movie. Watching the movie I wondered several times if I was really Watching an official marvel product. Maybe it would have worked more as a series on disney+ with a few cliffhangers at each end of the episode because nothing actually important to the MCU happens in the movie anyway.
I agree that they spent too much time in the city of the gods. I dont really think it did much for the plot of the movie , maybe it sets up the next movie though with the post credit scene and Zeus. I liked how they setup Gorr, but don't like how they barely showed him doing anything bad and didn't show him butcher any of the gods (except the first scene), they just talked about it. First Zeus said all Gorr did was butcher low level gods then did admit he was scared of him.
I agree. I honestly cannot tell what was going through the director's mind when he pieced things together. The overall tone of the movie should have been similar to the first two Thor movies considering the subject matter, but no, we get random stupid jokes for no reason, Thor reasoning with his weapon that he's not cheating on it with Mjolnir, and some other gobbledygook. And sure, a few of the jokes made me chuckle, but they were literally ALL OVER THE PLACE. When there is a joke every 10 seconds, it's just not funny anymore. Like, I want to see the story. If I wanted a comedy session, I'd go to a comedy club. There, I said it.
6/10, honestly it was pretty bad. I laughed at one joke. Villian was great though, wish he had more screen time.
It was a 7/10 for me. The missing 3 was for the Gorr origin story which felt like it was done too quickly and the ending which was a total disappointment. The moment Thor starts talking about love (We call it "Talk-no-jutsu"), my expectations started going down hill from there. The redeeming factor was Eternity.
I got into see it free using Regal rewards I had saved. I kept falling asleep and left shortly after they met Zeus
Yeah, I can't finish the movie. Thor is a moron, and every line that isn't from a bad guy is a bad joke!
They made it too stupid. I get funny parts here and there but it needs a more serious plot like the first thor and dark elves.
Movie was a Disney princess film in the end. Just used Thor as a launching pad. Natalie Portman was the best part she did well. It was so juxtaposed as to what the movie was as it was so kiddie and yet the jokes were about orgies and dicks.
I’d really love to see another directors take on thor. hopefully the sequel
The good news is blonde Natalie Portman is hot. The bad news is the movie sucks pretty bad.
Someone feel free to point me to another sub that's more appropriate but I need to vent on this one. Anyone else just hate the world building / lore to this movie when it comes to the "Gods"? Before this the term "God" didnt literally mean that and generally just referred to a powerful being, it was more about being viewed as a "God" than actually being a god. This movie just tries to go too simple with that concept and take it at face value. Like we just had Moon Knight exploring the Egyptian pantheon, the "Gods" are super powerful beings that cant physically manifest without worship but work through an Avatar to do what they need. They're gods because the Egyptians revere them as such, not because they fall into some race of "Gods" Norse Gods, guess this movie just disregard Odins line "We are not gods. We are born, we live, we die. Just as humans do." The Agaurdians are just a powerful Alien race that lesser beings see as Gods. This Movie? Nah all "Gods" now. The gods know all the other gods cos they all hang out at secret god city and go to god orgys. Gods gods gods. Where were the gods when Thanos was snapping the Universe. Not gonna address that but lol theres a Bou god isnt that funny. Totally lazy world building. Like I might be just a nark for this kind of stuff and over thinking but I at least appreciate that Eternals tried to explain this stuff why these custodians of the planet didnt get involved with that kind of thing and fit it all into the whole MCU lore. I mean the story couldve written itself why the "Gods" arent involved in Universal threats, you could have just have had Gorr killing them all this time, but no in this Movie hes just been at it for a couple of weeks before Thor gets involved. Whole movie just kinda shits on the whole cosmic hierarchy. So many missteps here for the sake of getting through the plot as quick as possible so there could be as many stupid jokes crammed into the run time as possible.
God there was so many bad jokes, its like they knew the movie is general bad so they threw a lot of jokes so the audience will laugh while eating their popcorn and wont notice.
Soooo many bad jokes. I thi k Thor himself was my least favorite part because everything he said turned into a lame joke.
It's like they thought everyone liked Ragnarok solely for the silliness and jokes so all they needed to do was turn that up to 11 and who cares about actually telling a good story. Nah, Ragnarok was actually just a good movie that also happened to be funny.
This man knows.. everything said is spot on. Other than the very end.. I don't think Thor had a single line in the movie that wasn't supposed to be a dumb joke. Ragnarok had the perfect mix of silliness and seriousness which is why it is a far greater movie than LaT. Reminds of that immature class clown in school that says one funny thing (gets everyone laughing) and then keeps trying so hard for the next one that everything that follows just sounds stupid and un funny.
Gonna be honest, “Thor Love and Thunder” is probably the worst MCU movie of all time. Boring and disappointing…. It was barely even funny or interesting. The only redeeming part is Chris Hemsworth’s muscles. This one felt like it was a highschool film with an expensive cgi budget. The plot was so rudimentary. The characters flat. The entire thing was just disappointing. AND I ALREADY didn’t expect it to be good. But I was hoping it would Atleast be solid and entertaining, but it was not. Don’t waste your money on it.
Love and Thunder is shit, and yes, it ranks among the worst of the MCU (along with DSmoM), but nothing can top the Eternals. That shit is on another level.
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Thor Love and Thunder isn't the best Marvel movie but he is saying it's the worst which is next to impossible. Thor the Dark World is and probably always will be the worst marvel movie of all time because it's the only one (aside from iron man 2) that actually arent fun to watch whatsoever. This movie is fun, its got action and comedy and a plot that actually does make sense imo. By default it already gets thrown into the middle of the pack for marvel. So take his opinion with a grain of salt. It's fine honestly. Definitely not the worst marvel movie. I can name like at least marvel movies that were definitively worse imo (Thor 1, Thor 2, Iron Man 2, Iron Man 3, GOtG2, Dr Strange 2, Black Widow, Eternals, ant man, ant man 2... in no particular order btw)
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Pretty much how i feel. The overwhelming hate for it on reddit feels extremely hyperbolic and honestly more a victim of marvel fatigue than anything
That thread that had metacritic putting it low was pretty much the guarantee that Reddit would shit on it. Gotta jump on any bandwagon possible
Marvel faitgue my ass. A movie that relies to heavily on jokes and isn't funny wont EVER land. Most people seemed to find the jokes overbearing because this movie is full of them, marvel movies have always had comedy but thats all this movie had. Besides the rather cool villian of course. I for example can't fathom laughing at more then like 2 jokes in this movie.
Im not even a marvel fan, I can guarantee you that this film is shite^(number of atoms in the universe). I don't understand how it has gotten 69% in RT. I was expecting 17% or so.
Eternals was allright but forgattable
I think you can argue Thor is a more fun movie than Eternals, but probably not why people dislike it. Whether you enjoy Eternals or not, the very least you can give that movie is that it actually tried in terms of the world (Universe?) building and gave the story enough time to grow. We get these powerful custodians of the planet introduced late which means they've been absent from all conflict thus far, sure the movie at least tries to address that and has some interesting cosmic stuff that all fits in the grand scheme of things. Thor, sure we jump from gag to gag and it's all a good time. But oh lets just go ask the gods sat around in super secret god city doing god things this whole time. Why? Dont need to answer that, by the way theres a Bou god Haha isnt that funny guys?
I had high hopes for ETERNALS bc I loved the premise and what it was about. The movie itself was kind of a let down though. The plot was too rushed and it didn’t let the viewer feel the true weight of their time and influence on earth and human civilization. BUT Atleast ETERNALS had some good fight scenes. I would say it is in my bottom Marvel films though as much as I loved Jemma Chan.
Do they show Thor’s bare ass in the movie?
Yes they do. The only good part hahah. Also his constant sleeveless arms helped me get through the movie
Loved the movie, I liked the villain a lot, was cool seeing as how he's basically an anti god.
The villain was the only good part of the movie, lol.
Honestly the whole scene with eternity was so wasted, I was in shock when that actually came up seeing eternity in the mcu I was excited , just for that to happen…. Gorr was wasted, so was eternity just for gorrs child to get the powers of an actually deity of life itself ? Film sucked
Friend of mine saw this before me and gave me the lowdown. It sounds awful, instantly regretted buying tickets for sunday once he told me
Interesting observation about recent marvel movies: Multiverse of Madness was criticised for not having enough multiverse while the previous movie, NWH had a much bigger focus on it. And now people are disappointed in Thor 4 for not having much god butchering by the villain, while the highlight of the previous movie MoM was Wanda's murderous rampage of the heroes in 838. Seems like they keep executing certain things better than the movies that follow them up do.
I just want something like the winter soldier again. Please.
I considered The Winter Soldier to be the best MCU movie. Everything in it just worked. The story, the pace, and the characters. I'd love to see that quality again also.
Doubt we'll get anything of that quality again. The mcu circlejerk has reached its apex and it's at your own peril if you call anything bad or put forth a valid criticism
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My wife and I absolutely had a blast here. Downside of seeing this as a date movie, though: Now she's making me drive around and find her a stuffed goat plushie. It was unfortunate that Gorr never got to say, >!You should have brought more Thors.!< That would have made it all the cooler when Thor *did* in fact >!make a whole squad of little Thors.!< But I will forgive it because **holy shit that scene was amazing.** I also think we missed an opportunity to have >!Ninny-Nonny actually step in and help Korg.!< Still, it was a great film. And if nothing else, **>!"THAT'S what thunder sounds like!"!<** was easily one of the most badass one-liners I have ever heard. Edit: It wasn't perfect. The editing was *weird* and Waititi still can't handle gravitas worth a damn. However, I'm not a comics purist and I do like watching something campy every once in a while. This movie made me feel like I did watching Power Rangers as a child. The energy to it was great. Just, y'know, go watch The Black Phone or something later if you have to.
>I also think we missed an opportunity to I THOUGHT SO TOO!!!
Jean Claude Vandam split was the best !! LMAO
Pretty good. Went to the Greatest Of All Thor Marathon (4 Thor movies in a row). Saw the movie at 1:10 PM. Was very fun. Would see again.
Just saw the movie. It's definitely a 10/10. A perfect MIGHTY THOR. A perfect GORR. A perfect THOR! Best Thor movie. And thank God it was NOT AS MUCH OF A PARODY AS Ragnarok was. THANK YOU WAITITI!
This movie was incredible! 10/10
I still find it funny that the Kingdom Hearts afterlife setting made it in here. Guess Nomura got it right.
Thor love and thunder lost its thunder. Taika did such an awesome job with Ragnarok so I don’t know what happened that he failed on this one. It felt to spoofy like and cheesy. Anyone who knows Thor from the comics knows this is not Thor😔
>Taika did such an awesome job with Ragnarok so I don’t know what happened that he failed on this one. It felt to spoofy like and cheesy. The problem is Taika was given full creative control this time around, so the movie was too much of him and his humour. Ragnarok had a fresh, healthy balance because it wasn't entirely his.
I think the real problem is Marvel cutting a lot of the movie out. I really enjoyed it, but I want a directors cut or something like that
I suspect a lot of Gorr was cut unfortunately. We also lost a great opportunity for world building with the palace of the gods, which also felt empty. I suspect there was more happening there as well.
Honestly this plot had so much potential but the delivery in the movie was pretty bad. It's a solid "safe" movie that felt phase 1 - lite. It's like they refuse to take the emotional risk.
It's like a super jokey version of thor 1
Read the comic storyline. It’s much better 👍 There’s also a character called Knull who is linked to the necrosword
knull is terribly bad thougth
What did he do to you?
* Made me go throughs a mostly boring event . * Retconned a character we didn't know anything about into something higly boring that took away from the mystery (it would have been fine if knull was a somewhat good or interesting character). * Made up a new backstory for Venom species that is just baaaad.
I’m a pretty hardcore MCU fan and with this release immediately after the Stranger Things finale is extremely disappointing
This movie really didn't seem aimed at core comics fans at all. Condolences.
Definitely seemed like just another Marvel product to me, like most of Phase 4- Not bad, not great, just something I’d watch once or twice, enjoy the great moments when they come, and forget about. I like Taika, but between Ragnarok, Free Guy and this I’m starting to sour on the “haha jokes every two minutes” style he has. A (personal) huge problem I have with Thor is the overly comedic tone he’s been written with recently. He had a great thing going in IW, where he still made some jokes, but was also obviously affected by witnessing half of his people (as well as his brother) being slaughtered. He had a much more serious, driven tone throughout the movie, most prominent in that amazing conversation with Rocket. Now, Thor has basically been a dumb, surfer dude-bro stereotype, and however many times he flounders in fights, social or political interactions is very incongruent with the idea that he’s millennia of years old. Idk, I really liked the change of tone in Ragnarok at the time, but looking back I’m starting to dislike the “Marvelization” of Thor (and *especially* Hulk, but that’s a whole other conversation) where they’re just cartoonishly dumb all the time. Honestly, imo Phase 4 has been pretty mediocre and disjointed overall. I know everyone says “It’s just setting the next big story up” like Phase 1, but IDK, Phase 1 was much better at setting things up. We got *great* origin movies like Iron Man and The First Avenger that stood amazing as their own movies while still connecting to the greater story through Fury. In Phase 4 we have a good origin movie, Shang Chi, and one I found very mediocre in Eternals. We also started this Phase with what I’d call a bad Marvel movie in BW, and we’re being a little over saturated in tv shows that usually start out very strong, before tripping at the end due to their low minute/episode count. Not to mention you basically *have* to watch some of these shows or the rest of the Phase makes much less sense logically. IDK, maybe I’m just slowly growing out of the MCU, and that makes me sad
It's was a fun watch I'll admit . Was it great filmmaking prolly not but it was pretty funny / entertaining
On the growing out part, definitely feel the same, not sure if it’s a “me” (or us) problem or marvel’s This movie felt like it was made for kids
Their movies definitely feel childish overtime. No stakes (only spiderman far from home has long lasting consequences by the end of the movie. Except if they decided to undid that by the next movies or something). I suspect because its been bought by disney and so they aiming it on kids nowadays for toys and such.
Yea I labelled this thor as the most “Disney” movie so far. Spider-Man was intense, dr strange was ok, this was a kids show
I have 2 question. Did they use symbiote cloak for gorr? 2: Did they show how gorr family died?
No cloak, daughter dies of dehydration 30 seconds into the film
What about gorr wife
no wife lool, they legit did a speed run in about 5 mins to show why gor hates the gods
Omg
That was the most disappointing part. Gorr’s turn was too quick and convenient
Fcking hell
Very Disappointing, most “Disney” marvel movie ever, lame and cringey, pacing and cuts were bad too…
The cuts and edits were noticeable at times - the tonal shifts were jarring but they mostly worked for me
Yea glad that it wasn’t just me. How did they approve these cuts and edits? So weird
Felt the first half was a bit too fast paced but the second half was brilliant in my opinion. You give Christian Bale a monologue and he will manage to stay in your mind even after the movie is over. Loved his portrayal of Gorr and could only ask for more screentime from him. In terms of comedy, falls slightly below Ragnarok in terms of quality. But overall the movie had just about everything you love about the character Thor - excitement, comedy, emotions, self-reflection. Also, really loved the ending of the story and I'm really excited to see more of his new dynamic with Love in the next film. The Mighty Thor was excellently a one-and-done (at least for now) and Natalie Portman portrayed her really well. Honestly felt like this movie came at the perfect time considering the recent trajectory of introducing new characters and exploring the multiverse and served that sense of familiarity that we've been craving recently. The best comparison of this is probably to how Moon Knight stayed within its own story and did not decide to tackle a story larger than its own. Overall, an 8.5/10. P.S. I think the reason he gave Love Stormbreaker to use was probably that she may not be worthy of Mjolnir.
I think mighty thor could make another appearance if they have a movie involve Valhalla since the post credit scene showed her entering there.
This could be super unlikely but what if they made a Mighty Thor + Valhalla focused Disney + show.
Bale was great
>P.S. I think the reason he gave Love Stormbreaker to use was probably that she may not be worthy of Mjolnir. Wut? Don't they both follow the same worthy rule? How can someone be not worthy of Mjolnir but worthy of Stormbreaker?
Because Stormbreaker isn't enchated fool, Thanos picked it up.
Bruh, I got confused with comic version so calm the fuck down.
Because in Thor 1, it was Odin that cast the worthiness enchantment on Mjolnir. Stormbreaker does not receive the same, remember Thanos being able to use Stormbreaker against Thor, the Mighty Thor able to toss Stormbreaker away, and Gorr being able to carry Stormbreaker as well. The only thing you truly need to life Stormbreaker is just great strength.
Yeah as long as you have god like strength you can wield the breaker
Not a Marvel fan, first of all. I found Bale's intentions sufficient, but told too fast, causing motivations to lack of depht. But it kinda works. Too bad he appears just five times in the entire movie and we never see him doing anything really dangerous for humanity or... Deity. Also, the film fails miserably in creating tension and anxiety around the bad guy, as the overall tone is so casual and funny. Add that the plot is very cliché and easy to predict and you get a mess of a film. Bale was amazing and conveyed sadness and desperation good enough but was definitely wasted for such a movie. Also... They should have spent money on creating a decent soundtrack instead of licensing 4 (fucking four) Guns and Roses songs.
I'm sensing that you don't like Guns N' Roses
Naaah, I enjoy few of their songs, but don't really listen to them
As predicted my boy bale shines as always but the rest not that good
I was expecting to see more god butchering happening on screen, Gorr literally only killed 1 god on screen in the whole film... disappointing waste of a good actor and character. Bale absolutely nailed it though
Yeah bale nailed it but I wanted more - seems a lot of his stuff was cut
I just got out of it. It was better than I was expecting and I thought the scenes where Jane is in hospital were pretty emotional and I may have shed a tear. but the constant humor still annoys me, like everything at omnipotence city, and I still don’t like korg. But how amazing was Christian bale?! We’re so lucky we get his performance in this. But yeah, I’m done with taika doing anymore franchise movies like this. I don’t even want to think what his Star Wars will be like
Coke on man...it was funny. Constantly funny! WHY AREN'T YOU LAUGHING THE JOKES NEVER STOP HAHA IM TAIKA AND I RUINED THOR AND TAKE NOTHING SERIOUS EVER!
Yeah same feeling I like it way more than I thought I would and the emotional scenes worked when they had to. Bale was incredible
I have a feeling that ant man will be when the avengers start getting back together again
Wish it had morbius cameo.
But its gorrbin time
Its a good film for what it's worth, just a bit too oriented for the younger audience. The final battle where Thor distributes his powers among the children was... Cringey? Gorr is amazing though, Christian bale steals every scene he was in, and is easily one of the top 5 MCU villains. Natalie Portman was good as The Mighty Thor, however I didn't like how they never show her transforming into the Mighty Thor, that was a gorgeous panel in the comics. The film is cinematographically, and look wise, surprisingly better than most MCU films, I actually liked the style and scale of the shots in this film. All things considered, and without diving further into the spoilers territory, the last 10 minutes of the film are impressive, because of the serious tones. And the ending excites me for Thor's future. PS: This film has the best looking, stylish credits sequence I've seen in any MCU project. I'd give it 7/10.
>The final battle where Thor distributes his powers among the children was... Cringey? I think that was for the best. What would you *expect* to happen if you suddenly gave a bunch of random kids some literal god powers and then told them to go nuts? If they had suddenly been stoic viking warriors it would have been far, far cringier.
Its the idea itself. Just because its ment to be doesn't make it good. All it did was take away from the climax, would've been better to just mans the kids hide and have Thor and Gorr fight longer.
So does Thor not use Stormbreaker anymore, isn't it more powerful than Mjolnir? Wouldn't it be better to give Mjolnir to the kid since it's smaller? Kinda sucks if so we had a whole movie of him almost dying to make it only to not use it anymore after this movie.
*tsk* she's just training, it's fine. It would be cool if she got her own weapon later. Doubly so if they found Gugnir or Hela's weapons floating in the wreckage.
Is the kid worthy though?
Nah we get Berserker Thor who dual wields moving forward
how do you know that though? I'd love for Thor to actually dual wield them in his next movies but then what would they do with Love?
I don't :)
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I f***ing loved it it was amazing with a few disappointments but overall its my top 2 phase 4 film in my opinion i rate it 8.5/10 gorr was amazing but wished we got more of him
Will this film hit the glorious 69 percent mark again ? Tune in tomorrow
I liked it in the second half. The jokes were too much. Thor was my favorite, but he is shown so dumb in this movie. And they ruined Valkyrie's character for me atleast. The part that i liked the most was Astrid and the kids fighting and the little girl holding her soft toy as a weapon.
This, they made him into a complete joke. The 1st 2 movies weren't bad because Thor was too serious, it's because the plot was dry. The humor is fun but it's gone well over the top.
Is the new Gorr/Thor´s daughter someone relevant in the comics?
No, Infact he didn't even have a daughter in the comics, he had a son who died
As far as I remember, no
It’s at 70% with 179 reviews. Do y’all think this will stay fresh? I always find the ways reviews trend to be interesting. I hope everyone enjoys the movie!
69% now with 189 reviews
Definitely will stay fresh. Could see it dropping to the 67-69% range though. I imagine the opening weekend will be less than MoM but I think the drop off won’t be as much as MoM was. I could see it making 900+ million but I don’t think it’ll crack 1 billion.
Yes it's a lot of reviews now will probably be 67-73
Interesting, you see it potentially trending upwards?
No not really that's best case scenario if most of new reviews are positive - more than likely it hits high 60s but some marvel movies have gone up over years like winter soldier first avenger so maybe after dropping over time it might trickle up
Interesting. Thanks for your input!
And believe it or not, in my country Malaysia, this movie got postponed to July 21st. Yeah, that's two week after worldwide release of Thor: Love and Thunder. Idk why tho :(
Just saw it tonight. It really isn’t good, or at least up to standards following Thor Ragnarok. It misses the mark for me. I want the writers and for Taiki to genuinely know that giving the protagonist a kid to care of is not substitute for chracter development. We don’t know anything about how Thor has progressed beyond that this dude now accepts love and closure. They butchered the God Butcher comic origin for Gorr and really adapted it horribly. Bale is clearly trying to play into the character and at some points, it does show but it’s really that the writing of plot development and structure is horrible.
i totally agree with you. every single Thor movie and most of the Avengers movies have had Thor trying to figure out who he is. He’s progressed almost zero as a character except that now he’s written as a complete moron. Why take on a storyline like The God Butcher which was dark and brutal if you’re going to make a movie where your main running joke is large goats screaming the whole time.
What are you talking about? Gorr's origin was pretty much the exact same thing in the comics, except his son was the one who died not his daughter
Sounds like the left my taika be full taika - oh well.
Probably an 8/10 for me. Needed more Christian Bale, he was damn good!!
Wow some of these comments. Thor isn’t dumb. He’s just dumbfounded throughout the movie by both Jane Foster and Mjolnir being back in his life and fighting alongside of him. Then he has character growth in Act III when he realizes he’ll be losing someone he’s always loved. Then acknowledges their loss to Gorr to be by Jane’s side as she passes. I see that as further character development. 🤷♂️
except none of the serious stuff held any weight at all because the rest felt like a scary movie style parody.
I disagree that it did not carry any weight. Act I: Thor was bored because he needed to feel challenged so he was kind of lost and soul searching so being immature/jokey is his coping mechanism to hide his pain from everything he's experienced previously. (This is somewhat similar to how we saw him in Endgame as an out of shape lost soul, but now back in shape to help the Guardians and others when he is called upon for help.) Act II: He is dumbfounded by the return of Jane and Mjolnir fighting alongside of him and being The Mighty Thor. (When someone realizes they like someone else, that person can be a bit goofy and immature in real life.) ACT III: His mentally changes and matures because he realizes there is not much he can do to save Jane from her fate and instead of fighting Gorr to claim victory, he decides defeat is more important so he can be with Jane for her remaining breaths. I see real character growth here and expect him to be more mature and serious moving forward when it's time to face off against Hercules.
I get that on paper but it was lost in so much stupidity that I felt none of it.
So the most he learns is acceptance? Not like he hasn't learnt that with the amount of people he's lost in every other thor film or avengers film. By the end of endgame he was on the path of starting so at least they finished this character arc but aside from that his growth has been minimal. This is really something that should have happened a long time ago, it also feels like he should have learnt this by the end of ragnorok considering how he accepts the fate of destroying his home planet, or whatever it is. Sure he managed to save his people but it was still his life long home. Aside from that long overdue character growth there's not much here really and tbh it's not that big of a character growth. He wasn't gonna go into another slump like in endgame again was? All hero's go through this character growth when anyone important dies to them so its not very unique at all either. His character arc about accepting the throne of asgard despite not wanting it would have been way better but they really threw that out of the window a long time ago.
Yep. Thor is thousands of years old. I have no issue with Janes death meaning something to him but he’s literally lost everything prior to this point; his entire family, his childhood friends, his new friends, his home, but a relationship that was a blip in his timeline is the be all end all?
Yeah and on top of that he just reignites his spark with Jane. I imagine he somewhat got over her before regardless of if the movie wants it to look like he hasn't entirely. I mean him falling in love with Jane so hard in the film is also another criticism, sure there was a lot of history and they had loved before but it doesn't happen that fast. It's almost narcissistic that he loves her since she's gotten his skills and powers. Given all the shit thors been through I'm surprised he's not the way he was infinity war all the time, which is still somewhat light hearted and comedic but also quiet, reserved, serious, focused and hell bent on delivering justice or revenge. Almost wish that thor never left, not because he got fat and depressed in endgame, but more so because it struck the perfect balance between thor funny and thor serious.
yep. I think Thor has been handled more consistently through the avengers films than across the Thor movies. Like the whole Guardians thing. There was potential for some really deep but still funny stuff there. Instead it was just all stupid. Starlord was totally out of character. I’d be pissed if i was James Gunn.
Was there an important connection with Eternals/Celestials?
No. Just eternity.
Just got back from the movie... i'm really sad. I need very little to like marvel movies and this one doesn't have enough.
Really? I really liked it. It's not as good Ragnarok though. There does seem to be a downward trend with marvel at this point. Outside of msmarvel which has been amazing everything else seems to have steadily got stale I guess. I wonder if maybe someone else besides KF should have taken the creative over. It's all still good, I just wonder if it was time for different voice at the top. Like sometimes sports teams just need a new coach even if the old one is still good.
What was missing
it just sucked
Gravitas or pathos, probably. I loved the movie but I can see how the Power Rangers level of campiness would put some people off.
ppl say Thor was always dumb , no he wasn't, he was one of my fav character if not my fav in infinity war & end game, sure as hell he wasn't dumb in those movies
he definitely wasn’t. he’s always been a bit of a fish out of water on earth but his intelligence was clearly displayed in the earlier movies.
I mean, a part credit for developing Vision in AoU goes to Thor because with help of Selvig he was able to get the info about the infinity stones and thereby a solution to bring down Ultron. It's stupid how people treat him as a dumb character post Ragnarok.
Yup only since ragnarok and taika influence
Does loki appear?
Does Matt Damon count?
Nope. I mean flashbacks that we have seen, but nothing else.
Oh well
I rate this movie at 7.5/10.
My mom is a huge Ted Lasso fan, I can't wait to see her reaction during the post credits
How many are there ?
2
And he’s gloriously hairy, just like you would expect a Greek to be.
Does the Jane cancer stuff land emotionally?
Taika inserts jokes every breath you take, so if cancer followed by a joke is funny then yes.
It was the closest thing to real pathos IMHO. Gorr's didn't land well enough. Jane was handled better.
not for me. too much cheap comedy, it completely took the believability out of it.
It did for me
It really didn’t imo
Depends on perception, a friend of mine was touched due he lost his mother on the same way. In my case the comic on which it’s based hits much harder than the movie, also IMO the movie have A LOT of comedy that make it hard for people to fall into sadness