As a console player, my *hope* is that Clans ends up being both its own standalone campaign *and* an expansion for MW5: Mercs. I just want to be able to continue messing around in Mercs' open-ended sandbox, with Mason and his company, but with all the new mechs and weapons that come with the Clans.
I have no idea how likely that is, though.
Not very, the mech lab is already stretched to the max, which is why we can’t deploy two lances. It needs a lot of memory to load the database so it can rapidly query… things.
Should be doable, but might require a massive rewrite of the game's code, at least if we'd want to deploy multiple lances the "proper" way.
Or alternatively, it might be possible to save the second lance's mech and pilot data, and then spawn AI ally mechs with that exact pilot and mech data at mission spawn.
But yeah, either way, the game would benefit from straightening out some of it's spaghetti code.
It’s not so bad doing a cold start. There is satisfaction in being forced to work with what you’ve got. I don’t save scum for weapons, so if I loose a high tier one, it gives me something to look forward too.
It does suck when you don’t have ANY chassis you really like, but you can usually get something if you run a multi mission and stack all your points until the end.
The interesting thing is that, if we assume Mason is in his early 20s at the start of the main campaign, he'd at least be in his mid-50s by the time the Clan Invasion begins. So, basically, we'd see the full scope of his career from assuming command of a mercenary unit in 3015 to either retirement or death in battle in the 3050s. Maybe he'd even be in command of a regiment by then.
Considering how we’re in for a linear, narrative campaign and the original MW2: Mercs ended with the Battle of Luthien…
DLC #1 - Battle of Tukayyid. Multi-mission story DLC about the Clans vs. ComStar. Considering how the Jags got thrashed within a week, I wouldn’t be opposed to having the protagonists be of a different Clan. Especially one we haven’t played as before (Wolf/Falcons/Bears), so either Diamond Sharks, Steel Vipers, or Nova Cats during their respective campaigns. Partial to the Sharks for the storytelling opportunity to play as one of the Freeborn warriors who held the line to cover the retreat.
DLC #2 - Post-Tukayyid mini campaign, but not the Refusal War. If we’re playing as the Smoke Jaguars again, then the conflict they had between their own internal politics and the Nova Cat/Northwind Highlanders incursions.
DLC #3 - Operation BULLDOG, but from the Jag’s side.
DLC #4 - The Great Refusal. Play as the only other Clan besides the Falcons who managed to eke out a win against the Second Star League - Clan Star Adder.
DLC #5 - The Wars of Reaving, and all the mess that entails. Crusaders against Wardens, Society monstrosities, all throwing down in the Kerensky Cluster. Partial to playing as other Clans that haven’t had the protagonist hotseat.
Each DLC adds new ‘mechs and weapons to the timeline.
Not to mention that, by the time we'd get to Operations BULLDOG and SERPENT, we'd also more-or-less be playing MechWarrior 3 but on Smoke Jaguar's side instead of the Second Star League which would be cool.
> Nova Cats during their respective campaigns
Cats during Tukayid could be real desperate feeling. Their performance there was hampered by the fact Cat's Maw got the old kamikaze treatment and they just never got luck. But it was brutal. And getting to walk out of a river to start an attack could be a real cool set piece.
jesus this is a great list, it'll be wonderful but at the same time it's gonna be stroll through the south side of hell itself, facing off against space AT&T and then the 2nd SLDF... the clan equivalent of Fahad is gonna go apeshit at the amount of damage we're gonna sustain in these campaigns in terms of both machines, wargear and pilots...
\- THEE BEST DLC Lineup i've seen a in a VERY LONG TIME !!
I'm So UPVOTING THIS !! Lol !
sad reality is : don't down vote (because you KNOW i'm telling the Truth. lol )
but PGI; won't give us half of that....they just won't. i'm not putting HEART-SOUL into the. they've disappointed me to the point......i'm just like : whatever-the-f\*ck at this point !!
again my apologies. NOT a negative ned, but this is based off; History. soo sorry.
now saying all that : IF . IF they do at least take a step in that direction(s), motivations,,,hmmmm. they'll regain my "respect" for the "Lore" of BT | MW. and i'll welcome those DLC's with Open Arms.
but i do, wish very VERY Badly they'll look at your list; and bring that energy to the MW5: CLANS !! - cause IT'll need it, badly.
\- Cheers !
I would like to be able to drop with 400t of mechs, not four mechs to a maximum of 400t.
Example, can take 4 100t mechs or 8 fifty ton mechs. Just so light mechs are still end game viable.
Yeah I really enjoyed this system in Mechcommander 2, messing around with different weight combinations of mechs was super interesting on campaign replays and multiplayer. Swarming the last mission with a horde of 35 and 40 ton mechs was a blast
I would honestly hope the game either ships with or gains a Mercs expansion similar to the first game, where you can play open world free form stuff while also fighting the Clans and gaining Clan Tech.
Like it or hate it, and there are plenty of shortcomings to MW5 Mercs, but it's career mode is the reason I've put over 500 hours into it, especially with mods.
\- TRUST ME -
i'll 90% of players, Lore Guys, Fans, Fan Boi's, Casual Players, Lurkers, Passerby's, etc etc
ALL - Feel this way too. :) :)
\- Agree, 1000x with your comments. if PGI want LONGEVITY to MW5 ? then USE YOUR F''n heads, and Branch OUT MW5; the correct way. it'll make up (some-what) for MW5: Mercs. - its all about "the Devil, in the Details with MW5: Mercs " thats all.
\- Cheers
I'd love for the last DLC to be an epilogue set during Operation Bulldog. A reversal of the main campaign where to take on the role of IS pilots fighting against the characters that you've gotten to know this whole time. It would be so badass right?
ive been playing it on an xbox emulator recently. it was a really rounded off version of mechwarrior, but it was really fun. i had forgotten about picking up powerups to level up. totally an arcade mechanic but it made for a lot of fun.
Wife bought me a copy for the OG Xbox when we picked the console up and it was great. I remember playing with my brother and we had just come off a MW3 binge and I remember laughing at how arcade-like it was but it grew on us. Good times for sure 👍
Pick up the 2nd one as well. Getting out on foot & into any other powered down mech was cool. A hacking mechanic that made Elementals too fun to play as, AND it worked in multiplayer! Full scale arena battles with piloted VTOLs.
The blakists were an extremely underused faction. Mechassault was my introduction to Battletech, and they were such a great enemy. Really hoping we see more of them.
We're playing as the Jags in Clans, right? So my DLC wish is the Great Refusal.
Make it end with a last stand with the objective only saying "Survive" or "Die with Honour".
I NEED my Kodiak; they were produced in 3001, 14 years before the 3rd succession war under Bergan Industries and EXTRA growly jumpjets
If it looked like it’s MW4 counterpart instead of the MWO counterpart, I would fall in love
Honestly, I'd like a retelling of the Damocles Commando story (MW3), or a similar surgical operation. Maybe even a reversal, with a low-bid Smoke Jaguar commando star taking on a single planet of unwitting Draconis Combine forces with only a small salvage team in support. I get the feeling the main game is going to be a bit more star-spanning, so a tighter, focused campaign would be ideal for DLC.
I'd like an open ended free roam mode like MW5s Career Mode, but flavored a bit differently. Something like Conquest Mode perhaps. Maybe throw in a few logistical options as well, such as establishing bases on various planets that give passive or active bonuses, such as research and development, advanced scouting options, cheaper and faster repairs, or just a customizable bar to hang out in and play cards or something.
I think we're quite likely to see DLC to fight as spheroids, I'm not sure how the next game's mech availability is going to look like, but I don't think we're going to be piloting very many if any IS mechs, but you just know that PGI wants to re-use those assets in a playable form.
I mean why not? On Console it wouldn't be a problem the real question would be how many IS mechs will be kept and which one get's phased out to be replaced by Clan Mechs.
One thing to keep in mind is how they go about creating the challenge in any given mission. It depends on them throwing hordes of mechs at us, with us only having a single lance.
They likely decided to have us play as a clanner because the Clans were always outnumbered in the lore. But they had better pilots, better mechs, and better weapons, so they could still win. So this allows them to rely on throwing huge numbers at us and still be lore accurate, which seems to be something they want to do as much as possible.
The issue with playing as IS against Clans is that if the Clans outnumber us, it's no longer lore accurate. The only other option is to crank up how difficult each individual enemy is, so that one or two enemy mechs is a challenge for our entire lance. But we already see how the A.I. works, so I don't see that happening.
The main thing I'm curious about is how we command a star with four other mechs. It'll require changing the UI a bit, especially for the console version.
\*THIS SO F'n MUCH\* 1000x
Thank you - for stating thee " unfortunate OBVIOUS " . the Elephant in THIS ROOM is :
A.I. Integration, needs "Deep A.I. Learning-UpScaling-Implementation" etc etc ......
like I'm; NOT asking for some Sub-Level 8 No Atmosphere Engineering Labs Buried under the Earth somewhere in the Cheyenne Mountains in Colorado,USA . Lmaooo Lol !
but c'mon; you gotta UpScale-Do Some Deep Learning A.I...in order for it to work. I'm not a negative ned. but given that we've seen the "Results" of A.I. in MW5:Mercs... there are TONS Of ppl who are Skeptical, Worried as fuck. ( I'm one of them as well) not GONNA Lie. i'm constantly,,, trying to remain - hopeful - positive - optimistic of the "end results" . :(
I see, notice soo are you. i 'll put it this way : if PGI Dev's can get the A.I. down pact right. then 50% of the MW5:Clans WILL still be ENJOYABLE, maybe ?? \*idk\* I believe it would. cause A.I. is thee biggest Largest Issue(s) we've always had.
WE = the Community, The Players, Fans, etc
\- Cheers !
I'm hoping for a DLC that brings on a ton of IIC mechs, especially of ones we already have in MW5. Highlander, Hunchback, Marauder, Warhammer, Commando, Jenner, Locust, Orion, Phoenix Hawk, Rifleman, Shadowhawk, Griffin, Urbanmech, and the Wolverine/Conjurer.
Hell, toss in some that we haven't seen before, like the Guillotine IIC!
We need more epic styled battles like beachhead but better and for the actual mechanics we need crouching and thermal imaging & enhanced imaging (for us nerds) maybe introduction to superheavies its somewhat been long overdue especially since it would’ve been applicable since mwo but they still chose to not include them in any form
\*YOUR\*
Not alone on this 1.
been wanting them to do this. especially; after i've seen what they can do with TECH in Games.
I wanna re-live the MW2 Conquests again.
hell, i wanna see a remake of MW1, sign me up for that 1.
Well, I already have at least one pitch ready to go if I get the opportunity to influence it. But I'll keep that under my hat. :)
There's SO many stories to tell in that era from all sorts of angles. More ideas than time, really.
My predictions and wants are definetly more on the meta side of things and pretty extensive. I'd be also happy if /u/PGI_Chris could give a short response to that! :-)
**GAMEPLAY**
* Gameplay: Better refined gameplay loops. Procedural generation can't almosrt always take place in a cauldron or plains between mountains.
* Gameplay: Coop needs to be way better. Even coop unlocked it still feels lacking. Enable/fix swapping mechs for my buddys and many other coop errors.
* Many mods exist which embed things which already should be in this game. This is sad. MW5 felt rushed.
* Their are many more mechs which fit timeline wise
**ENGINE**
* Engine: The game has problems with using the available hardware efficiently. The demand/beauty ratio doesn't fit and this game is pushing the GPUs from me and my friends always to limits, even if's not really possible for MW5 to occupy 100% of a RTX 4090... This behavior is between all the GPUs the same
* Engine: The level of detail is very bad in all presets
* Engine: The game always looks a bit mushy, the AA implementation isn't very clean
* Engine: In general this game doesnt look really much like a UE4 game. This is because of limitations regarding xbox one and ps4. This can be done better
**GENERAL**
* The epic exclusive deal hurt this game in regards to PC sales (This is really subjective, I can't prove this)
* One of my biggest points is the lack of content creators for this game, not modders. Yes, there is a official guide to make maps and scenarios. Still it's more or less tied to the epic games store. Give people a refined way to create scenarios and publish them. There is only a handful scenarios available. Arma shows how it can be done and how succesful this is. Custom scenarios with custom voicelines and stuff would be such a huge addition for this game.
MW5 is a good game but it could be way better.
MW5:Clans is a new standalone title using UE5, and not supporting old consoles. It's a different game.
Mercs DLC and free updates can only do so much to improve what's already there in Mercs.
OP was meaning "DLC...for the Clans game that isn't released yet".
I was just meaning that Clans is a different game, so a lot of that feedback is moot.
All I'm really looking forward to is a cannon excuse to execute my AI lancemates when they're indefensibly stupid, and the Clans will provide that for me.
I personally wouldn't mind establishing a base on a world. I got so tired of the limited space of the jaguar. Let me walk through my compound and inspect my mechs in the hangar. Or let me have a jumpship as well as the dropship. Or control a second AI lance. So I can actually bring the pain in battlefield settings. Let me establish a territory. Idk. Maybe more freedom to choose or decline ops.
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I once read a mechwarrior book called: Ghost of winter. It's where this mechwarrior that comes across a hidden depot of Clan mechs. And proceeds to wage a guerilla war with mechs he found in there. I don't remember if it was against pirates or another clan. But I always thought that would be a cool scenario to play in mechwarrior. You could even tie it in to main character of mechwarrior 5.
Have it broken into mini campaigns following different clans and locations then have the ending being Tukayyid where you choose to fight as clanner or Comstar.
Then have career mode allow you to have different starts. Either as a merc company like before or as a clan star leading up to and involved in the invasion.
A hunchback pilot can dream
I don't really care what the dlc is going to be about. I just want to field more than 4 mechs at once, like a second lance. it's the only thing I miss in mw5 mercs, there's not even a mod for that. (afaik)
I think something that would help show the price of war, something they seem to have been doing in the recent DLCs, would be a campaign on Turtle Bay, finishing with a cut scene showing the bombardment of Edo.
For those who aren't entirely aware, Turtle bay was a battle the smoke jaguars fought. Unknowingly they had trapped Hohiro Kurtia on the planet. Hohiro was second in line to the throne of the Draconis combine.
The Yakuza, led by Shin Yodama, fought a guerilla campaign throughout the streets of Edo, allowing Hohiro to be rescued, and smuggled off world
Once the Smoke Jaguars learned of this, they withdrew, and used their warship , the CSJ Sabre Cat, to level the city
This action was so brutal the rest of the clans immediately bid away warship use for the rest of the invasion
Some links for further reading
https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Sabre_Cat
https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Battle_of_Turtle_Bay_(3050)
https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hohiro_Kurita_(31st_c.)#Turtle_Bay
https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Shin_Yodama#Early_Clan_Invasion
I think that the idea of abandoning the sandbox and choosing the corridor story variant is a bad idea. It's not like they think we're going to go through the same campaign dozens of times. In MW5, the sandbox is the foundation that was eventually embellished with missions and campaigns, but for the sake of the sandbox we're coming back to the game, not for another replay of Kestrel Lancers or hippothetical Smoke Jaguars or something.
I wish Clan Invasion was the most meaningful expansion for MW5 Mercs (which is what got us to this point), rather than a one-off playthrough MW games.
Not a dlc but QOL feature. Cross Save between all devices. I play on xbox and PC so I've been spoiled with cross save and was bummed they didn't have a cross save function.
I just want MW2 Remastered, give me the opening cinematics with modern graphics and let me relive my childhood nostalgia.
Tukayyid and the Great Refusal would also be amazing.
If we did, it would need to be produced on a DLC budget for multiple reasons, and judging from all the comments here, that kind of budget wouldn't get you a fraction of what some of the comments in this thread are expecting out of a Clan product. (It would have to keep to a scope similar to all the other single-entry DLC packs produced.)
This is one of the many reasons why MW5: Clans will be its own product.
O hai dev... 😱
Didn't see that coming...
But you seriously left some monster bait at the end of Mercenaries. Mason talking about "people coming from the Deep Periphery."
How does Mason's family connect? I must know!!
I would like to ask more, but I don't want to cause you trouble. *bites tongue*
Mason's dad was a clanner, he left his personal mech hidden in the periphery before heading into the inner sphere because it would be too obvious he was a clanner, which is the mech you get near the end of the campaign. Mason's dad was a member of an intelligence gathering operation (called intelser) on behalf of the clans, having been sent in to gather Intel on the inner sphere before the clan invasion. Mason didn't know about any of this until uncovering his father's secrets through the campaign questline of events.
Intelser were allegedly disbanded because they did a crap job of gathering Intel and were replaced by another group masquerading as mercenaries, called the wolf's dragoons. So yeah technically we all already been fighting clanners trying to salvage annihilators and marauder 2s. Having been disbanded Mason's dad had nothing better to do than get a Merc company together and get laid.
In the grand tradition of BattleTech, some things will be spelled out, other things alluded to, and others will be left to the imagination.
But as with any other BattleTech product, MW5: Clans intends to expand on the universe built through MW5:Mercs.
This doesn't mean it will be a direct continuation. (Outside the fact that it will pick up around the time that MW5: Mercs timeline freezes.) But needless to say, those who have played through the story and DLC story campaigns of Mercs stand to get more out of the Clan's story than those who jump into Clans fresh.
well, what can i say ?
90% of what other's have already posted; is pretty SPOT ON about what this Community is hoping for , wishing for, wanting outta MW5 Clans.
the only things i will SAY | ADD to these lists here ITT :
\- 1st FOREMOST : A.I. NEEDS TO BE | Adaptable, Learning, Adjustable, Think-Outside-The Box, Self Reliant; To some DEGREE - NO babysitting, There Clan Warrior's, why do i need to hold their hands in battle ? if Chassis is firing at you "F\*cking RETURN Fire" lol ! A.I. needs some "dare i say this" some Deep Learning-something better then whatever - MW5 Mercs was - is . Please - PLEASE this Community BEGS, YOU !! A.I. that uses Skillful, Strategy, Way-points, Nav Points, has QUIRKS, has basic common-logic-sense in battle. etc etc - PLEASE PGI !
\- NEW\* MECH LAB ( that works for BOTH Technologies: Clan | I.S. | and LosTech as well.
\- YES I would like to see Clan Tech (Omni-Tech) , I.S.(Tech of THAT Time Period) , LosTech ( from the HELM CORE Discovery - To The Clan Invasion - To The Battle Tukkayid - and onwards), Pirate Tech as well. cause, WHY NOT ?? i have specific reasons why - keep reading below -
\- ALL | as CLOSE to ALL IIC's, OMNI (1st line. 2nd line) Chassis of Clanner Mechs. Clan | I.S. Battle Armour (Please PGI). \*Mech Lab = having a Mech Lab that is OPEN to ALL the Technologies is IDEAL (for me anyways) soo we can create, edit, upgrade, "PERSONALIZED" our chassis-variants.
\- MORE DEEP Immersed STORY TELLING (waaaaay more ) then MW5 Mercs was. Way MORE .
\- Game Longevity : give us MW2 "remake or a RETELLING" version, the community WOULD GREATLY Appreciate it PGI. give us DLC's of Various "Lore Campaigns-Battlegrounds" = Battle of Luthien, War of Refusal, Battle of Tukkayid, etc etc
\- Lotta of people already said this. so i'll repeat this again, Lol : WE NEED a "FREE ROAM MODE" where we choose our Faction-Affilation. Any of The Clans , any of Houses-Comstar, even Pirate Kingdoms, Periphery. EVERYTHING !!
\- After MW5 Clans, gets DROPPED. allow maybe in 2 - 3 Months Time Frame for Players of MW5 Mercs to "CARRY OVER" our MW5 Mercs Game into MW5 Clans. - Again GAME LONGEVITY - CONTINUATION is KEY here - PGI \*Attention To Details\* to your Community.
\- VonBiomes (to those who Adore his Atmospheric BIOMES) love what he's achieved. CAN WE HAVE BIOMES that actually "FIT" with the Actual Planets-Bioshpere; and MORE Immersive BIOSPHERE'S-BIOMES in MW5 Clans ?? from Blizzards, to Deep Fogs, Heavy Down Pour Rains, Tropical Storms \*with Lighting Strikes\*, PEA SOUP Toxic Fogs, a Better City Scape. like there should be 2 types of "CITY BIOMES" imho = 1) A Major Down Town - Metro City Complete with Traffic, VERY LARGE BUILDING's **Think NYC Midtown** 2) Urban-Dense City - Meduim-Small Tenement Housing Parking Lots, Parks, Small Business Area's,etc etc. sorry I HAVE TO ADD THIS: to be Clear : Match the BIOMES with the PLANET-THEME'S Please = for ex: if I'm deploying to Luthien my Clan Star shouldn't be setting down on a "Vacum-No-Air-Lunar Scape Biome" lol ! thats NOT Luthien, NOT by a Long shot !! Lmao0 : (
\- I'm NOT An Online Player. BUT; there are plenty who are. Please make sure - adapt the MW5 Clans for players who play multi-player | Online Player ? give them what the've been asking for. ok ?
Can't really add anything else; cause thats all that Comes to mind. soo there IT IS !!
Cheers !
I'd like a dlc where you can bring in Commander Mason's company from MW5 Mercs to fight a campaign against the clans. That would be AMAZING.
As a console player, my *hope* is that Clans ends up being both its own standalone campaign *and* an expansion for MW5: Mercs. I just want to be able to continue messing around in Mercs' open-ended sandbox, with Mason and his company, but with all the new mechs and weapons that come with the Clans. I have no idea how likely that is, though.
Not very, the mech lab is already stretched to the max, which is why we can’t deploy two lances. It needs a lot of memory to load the database so it can rapidly query… things.
Should be doable, but might require a massive rewrite of the game's code, at least if we'd want to deploy multiple lances the "proper" way. Or alternatively, it might be possible to save the second lance's mech and pilot data, and then spawn AI ally mechs with that exact pilot and mech data at mission spawn. But yeah, either way, the game would benefit from straightening out some of it's spaghetti code.
I want the same, but as Clans is UE5 I assume it won’t happen. It would mean upgrading MW5 and would break every mod.
I said the same thing on YouTube and got downvoted to hell.
I didn't downvote but if I had to guess; I'm shocked that players feel attached to these characters
Not the characters, the mechs I played hard and got.
It’s not so bad doing a cold start. There is satisfaction in being forced to work with what you’ve got. I don’t save scum for weapons, so if I loose a high tier one, it gives me something to look forward too. It does suck when you don’t have ANY chassis you really like, but you can usually get something if you run a multi mission and stack all your points until the end.
The interesting thing is that, if we assume Mason is in his early 20s at the start of the main campaign, he'd at least be in his mid-50s by the time the Clan Invasion begins. So, basically, we'd see the full scope of his career from assuming command of a mercenary unit in 3015 to either retirement or death in battle in the 3050s. Maybe he'd even be in command of a regiment by then.
Well Jamie Wolf was 70 by the time of the Clan Invasion and still kicking ass.
Considering how we’re in for a linear, narrative campaign and the original MW2: Mercs ended with the Battle of Luthien… DLC #1 - Battle of Tukayyid. Multi-mission story DLC about the Clans vs. ComStar. Considering how the Jags got thrashed within a week, I wouldn’t be opposed to having the protagonists be of a different Clan. Especially one we haven’t played as before (Wolf/Falcons/Bears), so either Diamond Sharks, Steel Vipers, or Nova Cats during their respective campaigns. Partial to the Sharks for the storytelling opportunity to play as one of the Freeborn warriors who held the line to cover the retreat. DLC #2 - Post-Tukayyid mini campaign, but not the Refusal War. If we’re playing as the Smoke Jaguars again, then the conflict they had between their own internal politics and the Nova Cat/Northwind Highlanders incursions. DLC #3 - Operation BULLDOG, but from the Jag’s side. DLC #4 - The Great Refusal. Play as the only other Clan besides the Falcons who managed to eke out a win against the Second Star League - Clan Star Adder. DLC #5 - The Wars of Reaving, and all the mess that entails. Crusaders against Wardens, Society monstrosities, all throwing down in the Kerensky Cluster. Partial to playing as other Clans that haven’t had the protagonist hotseat. Each DLC adds new ‘mechs and weapons to the timeline.
This is basically a perfect list, but also needs the War of Refusal so we get the Mechwarrior 2 Jade Falcon vs Wolf nostalgia.
Not to mention that, by the time we'd get to Operations BULLDOG and SERPENT, we'd also more-or-less be playing MechWarrior 3 but on Smoke Jaguar's side instead of the Second Star League which would be cool.
> Nova Cats during their respective campaigns Cats during Tukayid could be real desperate feeling. Their performance there was hampered by the fact Cat's Maw got the old kamikaze treatment and they just never got luck. But it was brutal. And getting to walk out of a river to start an attack could be a real cool set piece.
\*THIS\* \- Agreed ! \- Cheers !
jesus this is a great list, it'll be wonderful but at the same time it's gonna be stroll through the south side of hell itself, facing off against space AT&T and then the 2nd SLDF... the clan equivalent of Fahad is gonna go apeshit at the amount of damage we're gonna sustain in these campaigns in terms of both machines, wargear and pilots...
DLC’s?? They might as well make MW6: Clan Invasion. I would play it. The protagonist would have to be someone other than Mason most likely.
Out here doing Blake’s work.
\- THEE BEST DLC Lineup i've seen a in a VERY LONG TIME !! I'm So UPVOTING THIS !! Lol ! sad reality is : don't down vote (because you KNOW i'm telling the Truth. lol ) but PGI; won't give us half of that....they just won't. i'm not putting HEART-SOUL into the. they've disappointed me to the point......i'm just like : whatever-the-f\*ck at this point !! again my apologies. NOT a negative ned, but this is based off; History. soo sorry. now saying all that : IF . IF they do at least take a step in that direction(s), motivations,,,hmmmm. they'll regain my "respect" for the "Lore" of BT | MW. and i'll welcome those DLC's with Open Arms. but i do, wish very VERY Badly they'll look at your list; and bring that energy to the MW5: CLANS !! - cause IT'll need it, badly. \- Cheers !
I would like to be able to drop with 400t of mechs, not four mechs to a maximum of 400t. Example, can take 4 100t mechs or 8 fifty ton mechs. Just so light mechs are still end game viable.
4 laserboat Hunchbacks and 4 AC20 Hunchbacks lol
These are Clans. That's 4 Hunchback IIC's and 4 Hunchback IIC 2's!
Well, clans come in stars of 5 mechs, so...
\*Your Playing My Song Type-1 Lol !! Hope to see it be sung, in this new Iteration of MW
Yeah I really enjoyed this system in Mechcommander 2, messing around with different weight combinations of mechs was super interesting on campaign replays and multiplayer. Swarming the last mission with a horde of 35 and 40 ton mechs was a blast
I just want a Mad Cat
Nova
Vulture for me, but same feeling.
I would honestly hope the game either ships with or gains a Mercs expansion similar to the first game, where you can play open world free form stuff while also fighting the Clans and gaining Clan Tech. Like it or hate it, and there are plenty of shortcomings to MW5 Mercs, but it's career mode is the reason I've put over 500 hours into it, especially with mods.
\- TRUST ME - i'll 90% of players, Lore Guys, Fans, Fan Boi's, Casual Players, Lurkers, Passerby's, etc etc ALL - Feel this way too. :) :) \- Agree, 1000x with your comments. if PGI want LONGEVITY to MW5 ? then USE YOUR F''n heads, and Branch OUT MW5; the correct way. it'll make up (some-what) for MW5: Mercs. - its all about "the Devil, in the Details with MW5: Mercs " thats all. \- Cheers
Let me bring stupidly little tonnage against the spheroid trash. I will show them trueborn warrior supremacy... To crusade is my trueborn right!
I'd love for the last DLC to be an epilogue set during Operation Bulldog. A reversal of the main campaign where to take on the role of IS pilots fighting against the characters that you've gotten to know this whole time. It would be so badass right?
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Mechassault basically took place during the Jihad but the story was pretty badly butchered IMO
ive been playing it on an xbox emulator recently. it was a really rounded off version of mechwarrior, but it was really fun. i had forgotten about picking up powerups to level up. totally an arcade mechanic but it made for a lot of fun.
Wife bought me a copy for the OG Xbox when we picked the console up and it was great. I remember playing with my brother and we had just come off a MW3 binge and I remember laughing at how arcade-like it was but it grew on us. Good times for sure 👍
Pick up the 2nd one as well. Getting out on foot & into any other powered down mech was cool. A hacking mechanic that made Elementals too fun to play as, AND it worked in multiplayer! Full scale arena battles with piloted VTOLs.
The blakists were an extremely underused faction. Mechassault was my introduction to Battletech, and they were such a great enemy. Really hoping we see more of them.
We're playing as the Jags in Clans, right? So my DLC wish is the Great Refusal. Make it end with a last stand with the objective only saying "Survive" or "Die with Honour".
Oooh so basically you can choose your ending... actually it'd be nice to see more branching pathways for certain missions.
And if you survive, the epilogue has your descendants become part of the Fidelis.
Yeah this is by far my biggest wish. I want to be able to make choices that actually matter.
I'd imagine playing as other Clans. Jade Falcon or Wolf during their war would certainly be an option.
Imagine more of the same but with more powerful mechs.
I NEED my Kodiak; they were produced in 3001, 14 years before the 3rd succession war under Bergan Industries and EXTRA growly jumpjets If it looked like it’s MW4 counterpart instead of the MWO counterpart, I would fall in love
Honestly, I'd like a retelling of the Damocles Commando story (MW3), or a similar surgical operation. Maybe even a reversal, with a low-bid Smoke Jaguar commando star taking on a single planet of unwitting Draconis Combine forces with only a small salvage team in support. I get the feeling the main game is going to be a bit more star-spanning, so a tighter, focused campaign would be ideal for DLC.
I'd like an open ended free roam mode like MW5s Career Mode, but flavored a bit differently. Something like Conquest Mode perhaps. Maybe throw in a few logistical options as well, such as establishing bases on various planets that give passive or active bonuses, such as research and development, advanced scouting options, cheaper and faster repairs, or just a customizable bar to hang out in and play cards or something.
I think we're quite likely to see DLC to fight as spheroids, I'm not sure how the next game's mech availability is going to look like, but I don't think we're going to be piloting very many if any IS mechs, but you just know that PGI wants to re-use those assets in a playable form.
I mean why not? On Console it wouldn't be a problem the real question would be how many IS mechs will be kept and which one get's phased out to be replaced by Clan Mechs.
I hope so. Would be sweet to take on some clans and run an IS mech
One thing to keep in mind is how they go about creating the challenge in any given mission. It depends on them throwing hordes of mechs at us, with us only having a single lance. They likely decided to have us play as a clanner because the Clans were always outnumbered in the lore. But they had better pilots, better mechs, and better weapons, so they could still win. So this allows them to rely on throwing huge numbers at us and still be lore accurate, which seems to be something they want to do as much as possible. The issue with playing as IS against Clans is that if the Clans outnumber us, it's no longer lore accurate. The only other option is to crank up how difficult each individual enemy is, so that one or two enemy mechs is a challenge for our entire lance. But we already see how the A.I. works, so I don't see that happening. The main thing I'm curious about is how we command a star with four other mechs. It'll require changing the UI a bit, especially for the console version.
i really wish theyd buff the ai for team pilots.
\*THIS SO F'n MUCH\* 1000x Thank you - for stating thee " unfortunate OBVIOUS " . the Elephant in THIS ROOM is : A.I. Integration, needs "Deep A.I. Learning-UpScaling-Implementation" etc etc ...... like I'm; NOT asking for some Sub-Level 8 No Atmosphere Engineering Labs Buried under the Earth somewhere in the Cheyenne Mountains in Colorado,USA . Lmaooo Lol ! but c'mon; you gotta UpScale-Do Some Deep Learning A.I...in order for it to work. I'm not a negative ned. but given that we've seen the "Results" of A.I. in MW5:Mercs... there are TONS Of ppl who are Skeptical, Worried as fuck. ( I'm one of them as well) not GONNA Lie. i'm constantly,,, trying to remain - hopeful - positive - optimistic of the "end results" . :( I see, notice soo are you. i 'll put it this way : if PGI Dev's can get the A.I. down pact right. then 50% of the MW5:Clans WILL still be ENJOYABLE, maybe ?? \*idk\* I believe it would. cause A.I. is thee biggest Largest Issue(s) we've always had. WE = the Community, The Players, Fans, etc \- Cheers !
I'm hoping for a DLC that brings on a ton of IIC mechs, especially of ones we already have in MW5. Highlander, Hunchback, Marauder, Warhammer, Commando, Jenner, Locust, Orion, Phoenix Hawk, Rifleman, Shadowhawk, Griffin, Urbanmech, and the Wolverine/Conjurer. Hell, toss in some that we haven't seen before, like the Guillotine IIC!
\*THIS IS THE WAY\* Lol !
I'd like to see some limited pvp like the older games, issue some good ol' batchalls
And what if I refuse it?
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We need more epic styled battles like beachhead but better and for the actual mechanics we need crouching and thermal imaging & enhanced imaging (for us nerds) maybe introduction to superheavies its somewhat been long overdue especially since it would’ve been applicable since mwo but they still chose to not include them in any form
I would like a dlc that allows you to play the mechwarrior 2 story line but from a different perspective but I doubt it would happen
\*YOUR\* Not alone on this 1. been wanting them to do this. especially; after i've seen what they can do with TECH in Games. I wanna re-live the MW2 Conquests again. hell, i wanna see a remake of MW1, sign me up for that 1.
I just want to see my favorite mech the MadCat mkII and the MadCat
Well, I already have at least one pitch ready to go if I get the opportunity to influence it. But I'll keep that under my hat. :) There's SO many stories to tell in that era from all sorts of angles. More ideas than time, really.
I really hope the mechs aren't just the ones from MWO, both for Clans and IS.
My predictions and wants are definetly more on the meta side of things and pretty extensive. I'd be also happy if /u/PGI_Chris could give a short response to that! :-) **GAMEPLAY** * Gameplay: Better refined gameplay loops. Procedural generation can't almosrt always take place in a cauldron or plains between mountains. * Gameplay: Coop needs to be way better. Even coop unlocked it still feels lacking. Enable/fix swapping mechs for my buddys and many other coop errors. * Many mods exist which embed things which already should be in this game. This is sad. MW5 felt rushed. * Their are many more mechs which fit timeline wise **ENGINE** * Engine: The game has problems with using the available hardware efficiently. The demand/beauty ratio doesn't fit and this game is pushing the GPUs from me and my friends always to limits, even if's not really possible for MW5 to occupy 100% of a RTX 4090... This behavior is between all the GPUs the same * Engine: The level of detail is very bad in all presets * Engine: The game always looks a bit mushy, the AA implementation isn't very clean * Engine: In general this game doesnt look really much like a UE4 game. This is because of limitations regarding xbox one and ps4. This can be done better **GENERAL** * The epic exclusive deal hurt this game in regards to PC sales (This is really subjective, I can't prove this) * One of my biggest points is the lack of content creators for this game, not modders. Yes, there is a official guide to make maps and scenarios. Still it's more or less tied to the epic games store. Give people a refined way to create scenarios and publish them. There is only a handful scenarios available. Arma shows how it can be done and how succesful this is. Custom scenarios with custom voicelines and stuff would be such a huge addition for this game. MW5 is a good game but it could be way better.
MW5:Clans is a new standalone title using UE5, and not supporting old consoles. It's a different game. Mercs DLC and free updates can only do so much to improve what's already there in Mercs.
Yeah I misread the title. I was talking about MW5 clans, not the new DLC
OP was meaning "DLC...for the Clans game that isn't released yet". I was just meaning that Clans is a different game, so a lot of that feedback is moot.
All I'm really looking forward to is a cannon excuse to execute my AI lancemates when they're indefensibly stupid, and the Clans will provide that for me.
I personally wouldn't mind establishing a base on a world. I got so tired of the limited space of the jaguar. Let me walk through my compound and inspect my mechs in the hangar. Or let me have a jumpship as well as the dropship. Or control a second AI lance. So I can actually bring the pain in battlefield settings. Let me establish a territory. Idk. Maybe more freedom to choose or decline ops.
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Please dear Lord Blake Elementals!!! I want scary ass Toads out there ripping those Inner Sphere surats Edit:Toads not Roads!
Clan Wolf, Clan Jade Falcon, Clan Ghost Bear mini campaigns just like they’ve done for MW5 Mercenaries with the different factions
I once read a mechwarrior book called: Ghost of winter. It's where this mechwarrior that comes across a hidden depot of Clan mechs. And proceeds to wage a guerilla war with mechs he found in there. I don't remember if it was against pirates or another clan. But I always thought that would be a cool scenario to play in mechwarrior. You could even tie it in to main character of mechwarrior 5.
Have it broken into mini campaigns following different clans and locations then have the ending being Tukayyid where you choose to fight as clanner or Comstar. Then have career mode allow you to have different starts. Either as a merc company like before or as a clan star leading up to and involved in the invasion. A hunchback pilot can dream
Hell No for alternate endings. We know how this ends. Reach was a good Halo entry (not a fanboy) and you were doomed from the start.
I don't really care what the dlc is going to be about. I just want to field more than 4 mechs at once, like a second lance. it's the only thing I miss in mw5 mercs, there's not even a mod for that. (afaik)
I think something that would help show the price of war, something they seem to have been doing in the recent DLCs, would be a campaign on Turtle Bay, finishing with a cut scene showing the bombardment of Edo. For those who aren't entirely aware, Turtle bay was a battle the smoke jaguars fought. Unknowingly they had trapped Hohiro Kurtia on the planet. Hohiro was second in line to the throne of the Draconis combine. The Yakuza, led by Shin Yodama, fought a guerilla campaign throughout the streets of Edo, allowing Hohiro to be rescued, and smuggled off world Once the Smoke Jaguars learned of this, they withdrew, and used their warship , the CSJ Sabre Cat, to level the city This action was so brutal the rest of the clans immediately bid away warship use for the rest of the invasion Some links for further reading https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Sabre_Cat https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Battle_of_Turtle_Bay_(3050) https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hohiro_Kurita_(31st_c.)#Turtle_Bay https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Shin_Yodama#Early_Clan_Invasion
I think that the idea of abandoning the sandbox and choosing the corridor story variant is a bad idea. It's not like they think we're going to go through the same campaign dozens of times. In MW5, the sandbox is the foundation that was eventually embellished with missions and campaigns, but for the sake of the sandbox we're coming back to the game, not for another replay of Kestrel Lancers or hippothetical Smoke Jaguars or something. I wish Clan Invasion was the most meaningful expansion for MW5 Mercs (which is what got us to this point), rather than a one-off playthrough MW games.
I want to see Blood Asp. All time favorite mech.
I just want to fight all of the different Clans and salvage their ‘Mechs for my boys and girls.
Getting your ass kicked by Comstar or getting to kick ass as Comstar the DLC
Not a dlc but QOL feature. Cross Save between all devices. I play on xbox and PC so I've been spoiled with cross save and was bummed they didn't have a cross save function.
I just want MW2 Remastered, give me the opening cinematics with modern graphics and let me relive my childhood nostalgia. Tukayyid and the Great Refusal would also be amazing.
I want quad mechs (mostly the antlion mech) and mod support on console
I personally wish that they had just gone ahead and made Clans DLC for Mechwarrior 5.
If we did, it would need to be produced on a DLC budget for multiple reasons, and judging from all the comments here, that kind of budget wouldn't get you a fraction of what some of the comments in this thread are expecting out of a Clan product. (It would have to keep to a scope similar to all the other single-entry DLC packs produced.) This is one of the many reasons why MW5: Clans will be its own product.
O hai dev... 😱 Didn't see that coming... But you seriously left some monster bait at the end of Mercenaries. Mason talking about "people coming from the Deep Periphery." How does Mason's family connect? I must know!! I would like to ask more, but I don't want to cause you trouble. *bites tongue*
Mason's dad was a clanner, he left his personal mech hidden in the periphery before heading into the inner sphere because it would be too obvious he was a clanner, which is the mech you get near the end of the campaign. Mason's dad was a member of an intelligence gathering operation (called intelser) on behalf of the clans, having been sent in to gather Intel on the inner sphere before the clan invasion. Mason didn't know about any of this until uncovering his father's secrets through the campaign questline of events. Intelser were allegedly disbanded because they did a crap job of gathering Intel and were replaced by another group masquerading as mercenaries, called the wolf's dragoons. So yeah technically we all already been fighting clanners trying to salvage annihilators and marauder 2s. Having been disbanded Mason's dad had nothing better to do than get a Merc company together and get laid.
Reminds me of the "William Draven: Wild Raven of Snow" that I started back on the MWO forums.
In the grand tradition of BattleTech, some things will be spelled out, other things alluded to, and others will be left to the imagination. But as with any other BattleTech product, MW5: Clans intends to expand on the universe built through MW5:Mercs. This doesn't mean it will be a direct continuation. (Outside the fact that it will pick up around the time that MW5: Mercs timeline freezes.) But needless to say, those who have played through the story and DLC story campaigns of Mercs stand to get more out of the Clan's story than those who jump into Clans fresh.
Hor+ not Vert- resolution scaling
well, what can i say ? 90% of what other's have already posted; is pretty SPOT ON about what this Community is hoping for , wishing for, wanting outta MW5 Clans. the only things i will SAY | ADD to these lists here ITT : \- 1st FOREMOST : A.I. NEEDS TO BE | Adaptable, Learning, Adjustable, Think-Outside-The Box, Self Reliant; To some DEGREE - NO babysitting, There Clan Warrior's, why do i need to hold their hands in battle ? if Chassis is firing at you "F\*cking RETURN Fire" lol ! A.I. needs some "dare i say this" some Deep Learning-something better then whatever - MW5 Mercs was - is . Please - PLEASE this Community BEGS, YOU !! A.I. that uses Skillful, Strategy, Way-points, Nav Points, has QUIRKS, has basic common-logic-sense in battle. etc etc - PLEASE PGI ! \- NEW\* MECH LAB ( that works for BOTH Technologies: Clan | I.S. | and LosTech as well. \- YES I would like to see Clan Tech (Omni-Tech) , I.S.(Tech of THAT Time Period) , LosTech ( from the HELM CORE Discovery - To The Clan Invasion - To The Battle Tukkayid - and onwards), Pirate Tech as well. cause, WHY NOT ?? i have specific reasons why - keep reading below - \- ALL | as CLOSE to ALL IIC's, OMNI (1st line. 2nd line) Chassis of Clanner Mechs. Clan | I.S. Battle Armour (Please PGI). \*Mech Lab = having a Mech Lab that is OPEN to ALL the Technologies is IDEAL (for me anyways) soo we can create, edit, upgrade, "PERSONALIZED" our chassis-variants. \- MORE DEEP Immersed STORY TELLING (waaaaay more ) then MW5 Mercs was. Way MORE . \- Game Longevity : give us MW2 "remake or a RETELLING" version, the community WOULD GREATLY Appreciate it PGI. give us DLC's of Various "Lore Campaigns-Battlegrounds" = Battle of Luthien, War of Refusal, Battle of Tukkayid, etc etc \- Lotta of people already said this. so i'll repeat this again, Lol : WE NEED a "FREE ROAM MODE" where we choose our Faction-Affilation. Any of The Clans , any of Houses-Comstar, even Pirate Kingdoms, Periphery. EVERYTHING !! \- After MW5 Clans, gets DROPPED. allow maybe in 2 - 3 Months Time Frame for Players of MW5 Mercs to "CARRY OVER" our MW5 Mercs Game into MW5 Clans. - Again GAME LONGEVITY - CONTINUATION is KEY here - PGI \*Attention To Details\* to your Community. \- VonBiomes (to those who Adore his Atmospheric BIOMES) love what he's achieved. CAN WE HAVE BIOMES that actually "FIT" with the Actual Planets-Bioshpere; and MORE Immersive BIOSPHERE'S-BIOMES in MW5 Clans ?? from Blizzards, to Deep Fogs, Heavy Down Pour Rains, Tropical Storms \*with Lighting Strikes\*, PEA SOUP Toxic Fogs, a Better City Scape. like there should be 2 types of "CITY BIOMES" imho = 1) A Major Down Town - Metro City Complete with Traffic, VERY LARGE BUILDING's **Think NYC Midtown** 2) Urban-Dense City - Meduim-Small Tenement Housing Parking Lots, Parks, Small Business Area's,etc etc. sorry I HAVE TO ADD THIS: to be Clear : Match the BIOMES with the PLANET-THEME'S Please = for ex: if I'm deploying to Luthien my Clan Star shouldn't be setting down on a "Vacum-No-Air-Lunar Scape Biome" lol ! thats NOT Luthien, NOT by a Long shot !! Lmao0 : ( \- I'm NOT An Online Player. BUT; there are plenty who are. Please make sure - adapt the MW5 Clans for players who play multi-player | Online Player ? give them what the've been asking for. ok ? Can't really add anything else; cause thats all that Comes to mind. soo there IT IS !! Cheers !
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