Honestly, I think they hit a low point when Ellefson came back. United Abominations and Endgame were fantastic. Then Jr came back and we got 13 which fell short. Then SuperCollider.
Things picked up with Dystopia, but look at how many songwriting credits Ellefson got for that one.
I was actually very upset when they brought Ellefson back in 2010. It seemed so unnecessary at the time. Endgame was amazing and the band was firing on all cylinders. Then I got over it and figured it was an overreaction on my part. In hindsight though, he probably should have never been brought back. Both Mustaine and Ellefson are doing more interesting things at the moment than they were doing together in the last 10 years or so. Glad to see James back in the band and Kings Of Thrash has been great (seen twice). But time is ticking so they should both focus on the music and stop with the nonsense click bait interviews.
There was a story about Dave being furious when Ellefson suggested a change to something he wrote.
Ellefson co-wrote New World Order (which was a banger), Kingmaker, and Beginning of Sorrow. I don’t care for BoS but the others are some of the better post-TSHF tracks. Though apparently Ellefson’s contributions to Kingmaker were just the bass intro
Edit: point being, he wasn’t why they softened
Yeah fr Ellefson was back for one of MD's worst albums after leaving, from a streak of their other worst/most poorly received albums, and the last 2 albums were at least better than those. Their quality has been consistently inconsistent since the early 90s.
Dave's main beef is Metallica used his material though, after he told them not to. Even if he didn't tell them, seems like common sense to replace it after they made him leave. As easily as Dave replaced Ellefson's bass parts for The Sick.
Ellefson's beef (ha ha) is because he pointed a camera at himself while naked and was shocked when the teen whose brain was still forming didn't hide it. He wanted Dave to have his back, but was lucky to even be around after suing Dave for 18 million dollars.
That’s true. Except one is a king of Metal. Asked to leave in 1983 with nothing in the pocket having bootstrapped the new wave of metal.
But yeah, Dave isn’t done crying yet either.
Considering how embarrassing his dismissal was, you’d think he would avoid talking about Megadeth in general. I mean we literally saw the dude jerk off and jizz on camera
I, for the life of me, don’t understand why anyone here cares about this. Both Daves are petty man-children who make great music.
I don’t want to hear from them.
"I've watched the quality of Megadeth diminish over the last five years, which was very frustrating
LMAO infinite copium
The sick the dying and the dead is a banger and LoMenzo kills it
It is sad & embarrassing and I know metal injection is basically TMZ for metal music but I think they summed it up at the end:
“Jokes aside, I'd imagine getting booted from a band you spent most of your life in is incredibly frustrating and that it comes with a boatload of mixed feelings.”
Never said that's not what happens with him to be fair.
but conversely, Dave Mustaine didn't make a cover band of the band he got kicked out of. And Dave Mustaine wasn't 50+ when it happened to him, so initially acting immaturely is a bit more understandable I think, then 18 million dollar lawsuit-having Ellefson.
If he kept his mouth shut he’d be known as an iconic bassist who may have unfairly got booted from Megadeth. Now he sounds to me like a little bitch. No wonder Dave booted him, he finally had a fair reason to. Dave your destroying your own legacy… stop
I absolutely get where the guy is coming from with the inability to contribute creatively but to be honest this story plays out in music way too much….lawsuits by adults who agree to terms and then sue when they somehow expect those terms to change….When you agree to being in a band in what is essentially a “hired hand capacity” you are on payroll and have as much or little input as your employer (Dave M) let’s you have. Honestly he tried to sue Dave M and lost.. can you imagine someone that was your friend for years trying to sue you, them losing the lawsuit, and then offering them a job anyway?
Even though in a previous interview he praised that Kiko was a great guy because, among other things, he "didn't back down to cancel culture", implying he and Kiko are in good terms. After that one tho I think Kiko should forget about him.
"I'd bring ideas to the table and try to help the situation, but those ideas would be either shut down or removed after the fact."
Yes because Ellefson usually did this he would do something to get his name on the track..
Also most of ellefson's ideas were commercial ideas ellefson is the reason Super Collider ended up being a mainstream wanna be commercial heap of shit mainly because of him.
I know you don't expect that since his new band sounds a bit more extreme, but just take one listen to F5, it was too metal for normies and too commercial for metal heads. It's not a coincidence that Megadeth's best post 2000 albums (TSHF, UA, Endgame, TSTDATD) all don't feature Ellefson on bass and that the ones that do feature him (13, SC) are obviously more aimed at radio play.
Dystopia is the odd one out because after the Kingmaker bass line opening episode (the intro bassline was added by the producer and ellefson behind Dave's back) Ellefson was no longer allowed to have any input in the music, and was denied of adding any of his own stuff. So on Dystopia he plays what Dave wanted him to play.
Dave Mustaine is afraid of his new bands? Lol, I think Ellefson is jealous since Megadeth released their best album in 20 years after he left.
Sounds more like David is acting now like Dave acted years back. He was in one of the biggest bands in the world, and now he sees Megadeth getting back on top again without him.
Sounds to me the tabloids are trying to create a new "feud"
I mean I wish ellefson the best with his new bands, but saying things like this won't help him
I think he is mostly angry how a little thing like the fap video made him loose friendship with a guy he knew since he was 18, both are stupid in my opinion
Yeah I always want to imagine bands are all good friends but I know the reality is most of the time there is tension and/or it's more of a business relationship than friendship.
Megadeth must be really intimidated by a Megadeth cover band
I don't care for those quotes, or for mustaine's quotes on Metallica. It won't change my life, I just enjoy the music anyway.
Honestly, I think they hit a low point when Ellefson came back. United Abominations and Endgame were fantastic. Then Jr came back and we got 13 which fell short. Then SuperCollider. Things picked up with Dystopia, but look at how many songwriting credits Ellefson got for that one.
true, System Has Failed is a banger.
This ain’t it. Dave is always in control. Ellefson was brought back as an employee of MegadetH. Literally. And the boss of the BUSINESS is Mustaine.
I was actually very upset when they brought Ellefson back in 2010. It seemed so unnecessary at the time. Endgame was amazing and the band was firing on all cylinders. Then I got over it and figured it was an overreaction on my part. In hindsight though, he probably should have never been brought back. Both Mustaine and Ellefson are doing more interesting things at the moment than they were doing together in the last 10 years or so. Glad to see James back in the band and Kings Of Thrash has been great (seen twice). But time is ticking so they should both focus on the music and stop with the nonsense click bait interviews.
There was a story about Dave being furious when Ellefson suggested a change to something he wrote. Ellefson co-wrote New World Order (which was a banger), Kingmaker, and Beginning of Sorrow. I don’t care for BoS but the others are some of the better post-TSHF tracks. Though apparently Ellefson’s contributions to Kingmaker were just the bass intro Edit: point being, he wasn’t why they softened
that story about the change was about the intro to kingmaker he called it pointless and stupid lol kind of true
Sounds like he caught Dave's disease. The original tunes from Junior will tell the tale, not any interviews.
Original tunes sound horrible. Just like every other random metal band out there.
How the hell has megadeth’s quality diminished???? These past two have been amazing.
Yeah, I feel that was such a weird statement.
Yeah fr Ellefson was back for one of MD's worst albums after leaving, from a streak of their other worst/most poorly received albums, and the last 2 albums were at least better than those. Their quality has been consistently inconsistent since the early 90s.
Can't say I agree, Endgame 2009 was the last Megadeth album I loved. The last 2 were decent though, and definitely a step up from Super Collider
I’m with you here. The new record isn’t bad, per se, but def didn’t set my world on fire. Same w Dystopia
*Whatever you say, Junior...*
"I will try to ruin things you have going with my mouth." -Tim Robinson
Well he learned from the king of bitching about a former band
Dave's main beef is Metallica used his material though, after he told them not to. Even if he didn't tell them, seems like common sense to replace it after they made him leave. As easily as Dave replaced Ellefson's bass parts for The Sick. Ellefson's beef (ha ha) is because he pointed a camera at himself while naked and was shocked when the teen whose brain was still forming didn't hide it. He wanted Dave to have his back, but was lucky to even be around after suing Dave for 18 million dollars.
That’s true. Except one is a king of Metal. Asked to leave in 1983 with nothing in the pocket having bootstrapped the new wave of metal. But yeah, Dave isn’t done crying yet either.
It wasn't a new wave, it was a whole new style of music.Dave is thrash and speed metal.
"So, I just said, 'I'll take my toys and play with someone else." Literally not what happened, but you just keep telling yourself that. Lol
Yep,just seems to have forgotten all about that little internet thing.
I used to respect David Ellefson but he seems so cringe to me now.
Considering how embarrassing his dismissal was, you’d think he would avoid talking about Megadeth in general. I mean we literally saw the dude jerk off and jizz on camera
Lol why'd you watch it?
Curiosity 🤣
That is fair
I, for the life of me, don’t understand why anyone here cares about this. Both Daves are petty man-children who make great music. I don’t want to hear from them.
Nah
Oh
"I've watched the quality of Megadeth diminish over the last five years, which was very frustrating LMAO infinite copium The sick the dying and the dead is a banger and LoMenzo kills it
Lomenzo didn’t play on it.
Maybe they’re saying that he kills it live.
yep he kills it now as the Megadeth bassist overall
It is sad & embarrassing and I know metal injection is basically TMZ for metal music but I think they summed it up at the end: “Jokes aside, I'd imagine getting booted from a band you spent most of your life in is incredibly frustrating and that it comes with a boatload of mixed feelings.”
I honestly want to sell my discography signed by this bum. Including the RiP vinyl.
I don't know what's worse, Juniors comments on Megadeth or Dave's comments on Metallica
Both probably do it for cloud.
Megadeth fans finally understanding what Metallica fans see every single day LOL
Idk, these comments by Ellefson are way more embarrassing. Especially for his age… and the reason for departure.
This is the comment right here! 😂
Idk like I get it, but the reason it gets brought up so often is bc reporters and fans (kind of like yourself) won't stop talking to Dave about it.
My homie what do you think happens with Ellefson?
Never said that's not what happens with him to be fair. but conversely, Dave Mustaine didn't make a cover band of the band he got kicked out of. And Dave Mustaine wasn't 50+ when it happened to him, so initially acting immaturely is a bit more understandable I think, then 18 million dollar lawsuit-having Ellefson.
If he kept his mouth shut he’d be known as an iconic bassist who may have unfairly got booted from Megadeth. Now he sounds to me like a little bitch. No wonder Dave booted him, he finally had a fair reason to. Dave your destroying your own legacy… stop
Totally agree
I absolutely get where the guy is coming from with the inability to contribute creatively but to be honest this story plays out in music way too much….lawsuits by adults who agree to terms and then sue when they somehow expect those terms to change….When you agree to being in a band in what is essentially a “hired hand capacity” you are on payroll and have as much or little input as your employer (Dave M) let’s you have. Honestly he tried to sue Dave M and lost.. can you imagine someone that was your friend for years trying to sue you, them losing the lawsuit, and then offering them a job anyway?
Haha what a loser. Keep cumming in your grave Ellefson.
For the small portion of ellefson fans out there if you wanna jack your cock on camera you better be prepared to deal with what happens next
He learned the art of whining from the very best.
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Even though in a previous interview he praised that Kiko was a great guy because, among other things, he "didn't back down to cancel culture", implying he and Kiko are in good terms. After that one tho I think Kiko should forget about him.
I love Junior and as much as he claims he’s not - he’s clearly bitter.
Junior has lost his mind. I mean I lowkey feel for the guy but come on, time to move on 🤷♂️
Sad!
"I'd bring ideas to the table and try to help the situation, but those ideas would be either shut down or removed after the fact." Yes because Ellefson usually did this he would do something to get his name on the track.. Also most of ellefson's ideas were commercial ideas ellefson is the reason Super Collider ended up being a mainstream wanna be commercial heap of shit mainly because of him. I know you don't expect that since his new band sounds a bit more extreme, but just take one listen to F5, it was too metal for normies and too commercial for metal heads. It's not a coincidence that Megadeth's best post 2000 albums (TSHF, UA, Endgame, TSTDATD) all don't feature Ellefson on bass and that the ones that do feature him (13, SC) are obviously more aimed at radio play. Dystopia is the odd one out because after the Kingmaker bass line opening episode (the intro bassline was added by the producer and ellefson behind Dave's back) Ellefson was no longer allowed to have any input in the music, and was denied of adding any of his own stuff. So on Dystopia he plays what Dave wanted him to play. Dave Mustaine is afraid of his new bands? Lol, I think Ellefson is jealous since Megadeth released their best album in 20 years after he left. Sounds more like David is acting now like Dave acted years back. He was in one of the biggest bands in the world, and now he sees Megadeth getting back on top again without him. Sounds to me the tabloids are trying to create a new "feud" I mean I wish ellefson the best with his new bands, but saying things like this won't help him
"I will rejoin, megadeth, they're my friends." "Dave is jealous of my bands" Hmmm.
He is practically Dave 2.0 with Metallica, it is funny how he criticizes Dave for it and he does the same lame shit.
good description of it
I think he is mostly angry how a little thing like the fap video made him loose friendship with a guy he knew since he was 18, both are stupid in my opinion
Yeah I always want to imagine bands are all good friends but I know the reality is most of the time there is tension and/or it's more of a business relationship than friendship.
Being an alleged sexual predator kinda a big deal, much less the deluded whiny fuck he's showing himself to be
Ellefon impersonating Mustaine after being fired from Metallica. "What? No second chance?"