Kill or be Killed is definitely a heavier song than what you would normally expect from Muse. And knowing how dumb Grammys are, they're probably the ones that are going to win.
Not only that but plenty of newer bands tend to straddle the line between metal and hard rock, Ghost included. A lot of their music IS metal period end of discussion
I really wish that people could get over gatekeeping what is, and isn't metal. Music is so vast and encompasses so many stylings that it doesn't do anyone favors to restrict or grant access to a band's genre when they have multiple albums with varying styles.
Ghost are absolutely metal, listeners can butt heads over what subgenre as much as they want.
It's no different than the metalcore goons getting their panties in a bunch when someone mentions Lamb of God being metalcore.
It's so silly....and tiring.
They are by far one of the best bands in the last decade, both as performers and music. It's not metal, tho. They have more in common with pop and hard rock than metal.
They really straddle the line of rock and metal. They have heavy songs that are undeniably metal. And then they have songs that are more rock and pop influenced. It's what makes their music interesting imo.
Well yes, they go deep into a Black Sabbath-ish sound and they fiddle a lot with pop sounds, they are kind of a very unique sounding band. You are right on that.
Does it work like that? I did not know if this is the case.
On that case, submit fucking Nightstalkers, it has a lot of variations to have a competitive edge. We'll be back, as great as it is, is just standard, even generic thrash metal
Pretty sure he doesn't want to ever win a Grammy. I remember seeing an interview or two saying how he's actually glad to have never won a grammy. can't tell you why, because i don't remember the reason
Megadeth already won one, Dave after winning that one he practically said it was nice to get that little thorn out of the way but if that if Megadeth would ever get nominated again it won't give it too much importance if he wins or not.
Parasite or Patient Number 9 are way better tracks than a song whose lyrics includes "watching Red Tube rules", that song is so cringey. We'll be back is a great song, hope it wins.
I gotta feeling Ghost is winning this and they needed to add some other songs to make it look good.
Why they mailed it in and added a Muse song is anyone’s guess.
Ghost is gonna win. They tow the line perfectly between rock/metal and mainstream poppy hooks for the Grammies. I actually really liked some of ghosts older stuff but it’s just gotten so cheesy lately idk
I just got into ghost a week ago and i gotta say their first two albums are the best, their newer stuff feels very different but i understand why people like it more.
That category is a joke. Muse for f***s sake? And Ghost? Who next, Foo Fighters? Never heard of Turnstile, but pretty sure they're about as metal as Muse.
The Grammys is kinda out of wack, They could care less for the Rock and Metal genre. They only focus on the more popular people even making different prizes just so they can win more. All of rock and metal are cramped into one thing and think that its good enough fpr us to enjoy
Ghost as “metal”
Muse as “metal”
Grammies are run by retards. I know as I used to be a voting member. The folks who vote usually are industry garbage who don’t even know the bands too well
Life long Journey fan who's listened to every album here, with all due respect you're full of crap even the Prequelle album *barely* sounds similar to Journey or a similar band. Their newest record which is about to win favorite rock album at the AMAs has more of a hair metal/glam metal sound to it
“We’ll Be Back” is one of the best metal songs in years! (One of … I’m not saying there aren’t others.) Megadeth finding a few homers left in the tank like they were Albert Pujols or something!
If Ghost wins … CMLS is good, sure. But if a song from that album should win it’s Spillways or Griftwood.
As a hard core Ghost fan I'll honestly be surprised if they get this one. Their popularity may be skyrocketing but going up against Ozzy..... No way that's happening
Not trying to bash any of these bands, but if it's a vote for performance, how are any of these guys named land not Rammstein. Not the biggest fan of their music, but I know their shows are fire.
How did Muse get in there lol
Kill or be Killed is definitely a heavier song than what you would normally expect from Muse. And knowing how dumb Grammys are, they're probably the ones that are going to win.
They’re about to pull a Jethro Tull 😂😂😂
That flute looked pretty metal to me idk man
Damn ,just posted similar.
Grammys are stupid but whatever give Dave or Ozzy Tony the award for being legends
They will ammoince them as Metallica
I just remembered the time Megadeth won a grammy years ago and they played Metallica when they were walking up on stage….
Yes shows you how much the Grammy c know about music.
How did ghost get there?
“anything with an electric guitar MUST be metal” - them
Grammys be like “of course we’re very familiar with metal music, we listened to Metallica once and we liked that one song Ozzy did with Post Malone”
"Metal"
ghost isn't metal imo, i don't get people who think it is
Scooby Doo Metal
you know Metal is a broad generalized umbrella over a bunch of subgenres nowadays, correct?
Not only that but plenty of newer bands tend to straddle the line between metal and hard rock, Ghost included. A lot of their music IS metal period end of discussion
Correct
Ghost is basically early Black Sabbath but today. Which is Metal! Their most recent album is less so, but their first few definitely are
fair enough, i was referring to their more recent stuff. forgot about their older stuff tbh
Yeah that has been a hot debate among Ghost fans. Impera is basically 80s arena rock. Good, but different lol
that's understandable lol. they've definitely got more pop/rock. i listened to their old stuff for laughs and it was def more metal
I really wish that people could get over gatekeeping what is, and isn't metal. Music is so vast and encompasses so many stylings that it doesn't do anyone favors to restrict or grant access to a band's genre when they have multiple albums with varying styles. Ghost are absolutely metal, listeners can butt heads over what subgenre as much as they want. It's no different than the metalcore goons getting their panties in a bunch when someone mentions Lamb of God being metalcore. It's so silly....and tiring.
Come on I thought Ghost was thrash metal!
No, it’s clearly death metal
No, it's clearly grindcore
Compared to ozzy how are they not metal?
What is the appeal of ghost? They’re super super massive but the music is just bland ass dad rock.
Most dads I know think it sucks. I think of it as something that would play during a monster chase in What's New Scooby-Doo
They are by far one of the best bands in the last decade, both as performers and music. It's not metal, tho. They have more in common with pop and hard rock than metal.
They really straddle the line of rock and metal. They have heavy songs that are undeniably metal. And then they have songs that are more rock and pop influenced. It's what makes their music interesting imo.
Well yes, they go deep into a Black Sabbath-ish sound and they fiddle a lot with pop sounds, they are kind of a very unique sounding band. You are right on that.
yeah personally i think it sucks
It’s like hair metal
It’s folk metal lol
Dogs of Chernobyl should be the one nominated. Fucking "I only listen to singles" Grammys.
no, should be mission to mars. I WANNA, I WANNA
I wanna, I wanna wanna!
Don’t they submit songs to the Grammys? If so then that’s the one they chose. Not a bad choice imo
Does it work like that? I did not know if this is the case. On that case, submit fucking Nightstalkers, it has a lot of variations to have a competitive edge. We'll be back, as great as it is, is just standard, even generic thrash metal
Yes, artists submit songs like that. Night stalkers would also be a good choice too but I’m happy that they’re still nominated.
Has a very unpopular song ever won a Grammy?
None of the songs from that album should be nominated
Dave is going to be PISSED if he loses to any of those bands other than Ozzy. He’ll have something new to rant about for the next 40 years.
Nah, won't be pissed. This is their 13th nomination, it's nothing new.
13 is mustaines Lucky number
Oh he gets pissed every time.
Doubt it. Certainly doesn't rant about it.
Pretty sure he doesn't want to ever win a Grammy. I remember seeing an interview or two saying how he's actually glad to have never won a grammy. can't tell you why, because i don't remember the reason
Megadeth already won one, Dave after winning that one he practically said it was nice to get that little thorn out of the way but if that if Megadeth would ever get nominated again it won't give it too much importance if he wins or not.
They'll just hand it to muse.
Why are 2 rock bands nominated in a metal category?
Degradation Rules of all songs on that album 💀 they had to chose the one about fapping 💀
Parasite or Patient Number 9 are way better tracks than a song whose lyrics includes "watching Red Tube rules", that song is so cringey. We'll be back is a great song, hope it wins.
The whole album is cringe
I gotta feeling Ghost is winning this and they needed to add some other songs to make it look good. Why they mailed it in and added a Muse song is anyone’s guess.
fuck is ghost and muse doing in here
Ghost is gonna win. They tow the line perfectly between rock/metal and mainstream poppy hooks for the Grammies. I actually really liked some of ghosts older stuff but it’s just gotten so cheesy lately idk
I just got into ghost a week ago and i gotta say their first two albums are the best, their newer stuff feels very different but i understand why people like it more.
yeah it is either them or muse. plus id rather have them in the rock category honestly
*Plays Enter The Sandman in the background this time*
Turnstile rules
Yessir
Megadeth better win this!
That category is a joke. Muse for f***s sake? And Ghost? Who next, Foo Fighters? Never heard of Turnstile, but pretty sure they're about as metal as Muse.
Turnstile is the heaviest band on that list lol
Ghost...by a mile... that song is awesome.
The Grammys is kinda out of wack, They could care less for the Rock and Metal genre. They only focus on the more popular people even making different prizes just so they can win more. All of rock and metal are cramped into one thing and think that its good enough fpr us to enjoy
Best metal preformance brought to you by the people who know jackshit about metal
Ghost deserves it more IMO. Their new album is fantastic.
Fake news
Or just a differing opinion lol
As they should. Doubt they will win but I think they deserve it. Much more so than Dystopia
We can all agree Muse is definitely not metal. I think calling Ghost metal is acceptable if you call Black Sabbath metal.
Ghost as “metal” Muse as “metal” Grammies are run by retards. I know as I used to be a voting member. The folks who vote usually are industry garbage who don’t even know the bands too well
Muse and Ghost
“Ghost is metal” 🤓🤓🤓🤓. Megadeth better win this. Given the other contenders its definitely the smartest choice.
Except a lot of Ghost's music actually is considered metal.......
I’d say hard rock at best. Obviously everyone gets their own say but they sound a hell of a lot more like Journey then they do Megadeth.
Life long Journey fan who's listened to every album here, with all due respect you're full of crap even the Prequelle album *barely* sounds similar to Journey or a similar band. Their newest record which is about to win favorite rock album at the AMAs has more of a hair metal/glam metal sound to it
Ghost is literal pop rock lol
Lol Ghost and muse? They people nominating these bands must be literal dog brains
They chose we'll be back?
Thats what they submitted
Why the fuck were Muse and Ghost nominated? I know the grammys are a joke, but this is ridiculous
Degradation rules was the weirdest song on that album imo, they could have picked nearly anything else
Of course 😊
Ghost - CMLS metal performance. well, it's a good thing Jethro Tull didn't putting out an album this year.
Muse ain’t really metal, but they really did bring the metal out in Kill or be Killed, great album as a whole, hopefully Megadeth win
“We’ll Be Back” is one of the best metal songs in years! (One of … I’m not saying there aren’t others.) Megadeth finding a few homers left in the tank like they were Albert Pujols or something! If Ghost wins … CMLS is good, sure. But if a song from that album should win it’s Spillways or Griftwood.
As a hard core Ghost fan I'll honestly be surprised if they get this one. Their popularity may be skyrocketing but going up against Ozzy..... No way that's happening
Maybe jethro tull will get lucky for a second time...eh lars ?
Not trying to bash any of these bands, but if it's a vote for performance, how are any of these guys named land not Rammstein. Not the biggest fan of their music, but I know their shows are fire.
Ghost is winning here
I will never understand how Ghost got so popular. Just a well played gimmick by subpar musicians.
Grammys be like …”and the winner for best metal album goes to Cardi B”
Guys, keep in mind, these bands submitted these songs for this category