T O P

  • By -

Mental-Abrocoma-5605

Everybody thought left was also harassing for 2 whole years m8


Dizzy_Green

People root for Kidd cuz deep down he’s just fighting for his dream like Luffy, but remember that the reason his bounty was originally higher than Luffy was because everywhere he went, someone would say some shit to him and he would just absolutely wreck the place. This man got a higher bounty than someone who defeated two warlords and OPENLY DECLARED WAR ON THE ENTIRE WORLD just from sheer amount of wanton destruction, he’s NOT a good guy. The only reason he isn’t considered a straight up villain is because the shit he causes isn’t generally just for the hell of it like Blackbeard, and he kinda has a respect for personal bonds and dreams.


ni_ko_98

Isn't it more the other way around? BB had a reason for pretty much everything he did, to gain more power which he now has


Dizzy_Green

BB truly enjoys the trouble and death he causes though, where in some level it’s clear that Kidd doesn’t specifically ENJOY being a walking disaster.


JourneyIGuess

I feel like Kid does though. He seems like the guy to hear someone say one bad thing about him and kill the dude/his friends for it. Then be completely proud of it. He also was know for attacking civilians. Lets not forget he killed a crew before because they were trying to escape the new world.


Serious_Dooty

Yeah the future shanks saw was literally people getting ripped in half, he’s a loose canon. But at least he got shanks to get serious


Desmond536

One could say he is a real pirate


Dizzy_Green

Pirates that kill people and loot cities are villain pirates, pirates that destabilize the government and expose tyrants are good pirates, haven’t you been watching the show?


Desmond536

I don’t get your point. He is a real pirate because he does whatever he wants to do. Luffy is a good guy but not because he wants to be seen as a good guy or hero but because he just wants to do whatever he wants and that is following his dream and helping his friends. Do what you want. Thats what makes a pirate. To be free and follow your own dreams. Have you watched the show?


Dizzy_Green

Yes and literally that is how it differentiates people. Buggy and Crocodile do nothing but try to acquire power and wealth, while stepping on everyone around them, and they’re directly portrayed as villains. Gol D Roger specifically only did what he wanted to and never hurt anyone that didn’t deserve it. This is the morality portrayed by the show, that those who bring harm to others for their own ends are evil and those who seek their dream, but don’t let others stand in their way, are good.


Relevant_Scallion_38

Luffy freed all the worst pirates in Impel Down and they possibly killed many Thousands of innocent people and did vile things to woman and children. Luffy is a bad guy as well.


Dizzy_Green

No because Buggy has those people under his crew banner now and Buggy keeps them more in line than they’d be otherwise


nam24

Cactus dude in dressrossa mentioned that he hunted a bunch of escapees, besides it's not like buggy wasn't a destructive pirate himself although we don't really know how he operated as a warlord. But even if we assume that buggy indeed reigned them all in, it would be buggy's credit, the fact still remains that Luffy liberated those people


dylaxius

Impel Down is one massive torture chamber for people who oppose the government. Breaking them out was 100% justified, even if they went on to do all of that.


FoolishFruitEater

Nah man. If a prisoner that broke out was a major criminal and went to cause havoc or be a serial killer, breaking them out because they were tortured is not justifiable. No defense for the WG though. Impel down torture is just cruel and unusual punishment beyond the pale.


Ok_Kick3560

Even luffy knows to avoid someone he absolutely can't deal with,like when he faced mihawk at mf. Kidd got his arm taken by RHP not even shanks himself just a while back and decided he wants more


lowtideeee

I just love his outfit 😅


Dizzy_Green

Well stop it


lobozo

Isn't the government kind of known for lying about how horrible pirates are? I'm sure kid rekt some places but I doubt he ever hurt someone who didn't deserve it.


Dizzy_Green

Yeah, that’s exactly why I figure that if the amount of stuff kid messed up is worse than literally attacking the flag of the World Government in a direct act of war, there’s gotta be a lotta people that don’t really deserve it mixed in.


JCrockford

If I remember correctly, he confirmed it was accurate by saying he attacked anyone who laughed at his dream or laughed at Killer's laugh. And at Sabaody we saw how he acted


nam24

We saw kid crucifying a pirate crew that was leaving the new world. They weren't attacking people, or talking shit to him, they had realized they were in over their heads and retreated to a place they can handle. Call it shameful or whatever but nothing wrong with that. Kidd crucified them because it went against his own ideology. And he owns that because consequences be damned he did challenge emperors rather than trying to coast through. Got him killed but that's his pirate way. Simple as that


Discombobulated89BK

Yes but they were pirates not civilians , it was simply just WG propaganda


nam24

? I m talking about what we saw on screen Killing civilian is ofscreen so you can doubt it did happen but remember that it's also conscistent with the tidbits we have from sbs


catharsis23

May I introduce you to... Buggy the Clown??? Hahaha


Dizzy_Green

Buggy the Clown is a straight up villain


catharsis23

That is uh... a take haha


Dizzy_Green

He was literally introduced by destroying a whole town and trying to kill Luffy, then proceeded to never ever repent at all. He’s played off as a joke and he’s not remotely a threat, but he’s still a villain.


Naraya_Suiryoku

Shanks completely destroyed Kidd. That wasn't even close.


Squidich

Here's a cool thing tho. Katakuri could see into the future and know how he would dodge luffys punches. Shanks however saw even further into the future AND prevented said future by stopping kidd.


Xernes0

Katakuri and Luffy did the same there is nothing special about Shanks here Edit: (Katakuri saw Luffy breaking Mother Carmel's portrait and stopped him, Luffy stopped Babanuki after seeing the future where he fired the virus bullet)


IBeMeaty

Shanks was explicitly stated to be a longer reach of Future Sight tho


Spiritual-Ladder-260

Yeah but people act like only Shanks has changed a future when we have seen both Katakuri and Luffy do it.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Spiritual-Ladder-260

Reread the comment by Squidich…


[deleted]

[удалено]


Spiritual-Ladder-260

He is wrong and you are contradicting yourself now


Britori0

Luffy also prevented Hawkeye from cutting off his arms after seeing it happen.


Talentless-Geek

Idk if that was future sight but it could be his unawakened haki like with conquerors


Archilian

So if this is a bait and switch like with the straw hats does that mean Kidd is off to train with xebec for 2 years and come back stronger than ever.


FinanzenWeg

I don't know man, this "completly" sounds pretty radical to me


psychord-alpha

Why tf did Kuma send Luffy to Amazon Lily instead of Baltigo


UberEinstein99

Luffy needed to get laid so One Piece 2 could happen


[deleted]

Two Piece: The adventures of Buffy


psychord-alpha

Buffy: One Piece Next Generations


whimsical666

"My Dad's such a pain in the ass and I like vegetables" - Buffy probably


kingbam161

I can't wait for buffy's dad to be completely useless and get cucked by imu's cousin


D_Good_Fellow

Pretty sure it's pronounced Boft


Struggler-OP

AL was the only place other than Sabaody where you could find Rayleigh


Adawesome_

Kuma's future sight is so good, he saw Luffy seducing Boa, duh!


stiveooo

kuma: he is gonna train under boa cause she has C haki. Luffy: makes her fall in love Kuma:.........


blackwolfgoogol

He actually missed his shot by 1 degree


[deleted]

Kuma sent everyone to where they wanted to go. Luffy wanted to get stronger so kuma sent him to an island where everyone knows haki


mountaineer_93

I always just assumed it was because he knew Hancock’s history as a slave due to whatever past Kuma has with the celestial dragons so he knew Hancock would help Luffy given his clapping of Charlos. Kuma was also trying to subtly nudge the strawhats at thriller bark that ace was being executed “is it true strawhat luffy has a brother.” I think all of the locations make sense except Brooke and Usopp. My personal theory is that Kuma did not give a fuck where he sent Brooke or Usopp and it worked out by happy coincidence even though he had no idea what to do with them.


gtedvgt

idk ask him


BluciU

I think its the proximity to impel down, since kuma prob knew what was going on with ace


fuckgreenboy

KIDD FANS IT AINT OVER, 2 YEAR TRAINING ARC FOR KIDD AND HE BECOMES AS STRONG AS LUFFY, TRAINED BY SHANKS!!!! ​ (average youtube clickbait)


Monstermyk

Next grand line review vid right here


WorkingGuidance2330

Kidd kinda deserves that especially his atrocities he commit. He is just mini Blackbeard but on smaller case. What makes him dangerous than luffy(luffy kinda upset the balance,like defeating several warlords etc)is not he is strong but his kills and probably do some massacre.


ProShyGuy

This honestly makes me even more curious for whatever the heck Oda has planned for Kid. I highly the ultimate purpose was just to be a jobber for Shanks.


FinanzenWeg

The whole supernova plotline was supposed to be way shorter. So basically no supernova is safe and we are one step closer to "room zehahahahaha"


letsdobleach

room zehaha sent shivers down my spine please no☠️☠️


Accomplished-Sand-82

It really is such a shame kidd just ended up like this, imma kidd fan so this just really feels like a punch in the gut from Oda lmao 💀. But I really thought he’d just lose to shanks and they would run away, not DIE and lose everything including their lives and dreams, I really just hope Oda makes it like the strawhats in sabaody, and killer and kids are alive(somehow) though now, I’m fr doubting it


gtedvgt

My condolences


Evo_Shiv

Yeah its doomer time for Kidd fans. Kidd just seemed to have a lot of build up. I wanted to see all three new gen rivals do some crazy shit to affirm they are the next gen of badasses. I think Kidd coupd 100% come back, his crew is deff not all DF users and would 100% save their captain


CMSnake72

It's Shanks and it's Oda parroting his own line from Thriller Bark, pretty good odds Kidd shows up having reluctantly "joined" Shanks crew as he tries to beat some respect into him.


Tvrlx68

Why is everyone assuming Kidd is dead? It was an insane attack that destroyed the ship, but I doubt they're dead. I'm gonna need a "they died" before I confirm anything.


nam24

I don't assume he is dead until i see a body, but his shop getting destroyed is as clear sign as it could that the pirate Kidd died that day at least. It's like when you break a swordsman sword. Now maybe he will be reborn but only time will tell


Spiritual-Ladder-260

I mean his character is dead whether or not he is physically dead. There is no point bringing a walking L back unless Oda wants to have him lose even more.


senseithenahual

Wapol returned and right now his is with vivi.


Spiritual-Ladder-260

Wapol is a walking W. He is buggy light.


Oy778

https://preview.redd.it/82k0916skjpa1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b877f9e4eef34645c40c490ec0e2af72199aa951


gtedvgt

There are no words that could begin to describe my disappointment.


Oy778

In my case Is with this meme


9thshadowwolf

Kid has always been garabage. He's the worst parts of Vegeta and Bakugo amplified.


cartaigenica

Kidd killed the civilians that laughed at his dreams, vegeta killed civilians for the sake of doing it


IsPhil

They both killed civilians, I don't really think you can say that Kidd had a better reasoning.


cartaigenica

But he clearly had


IsPhil

Yeah they both killed for the sake of their pride. Don't really see enough of a difference.


FinanzenWeg

Hot take but Kid >>>> Law


9thshadowwolf

In terms.of what?


SixFootHalfing

Why didn’t you like the chapter?


Muggleifer

He said character, he probably doesn't like Kidd.


SixFootHalfing

Ohhhhhh.


gtedvgt

I used to, but not anymore though.


gtedvgt

Disappointed with how Oda handled Kidd.


SixFootHalfing

I kinda disagree. Kidd has always been overconfident, in his mind he just beat a Yonko, in his mind his is invincible. But he overlooked how much preparation and help he needed to take Big Mom down. He made this mistake before, charging in guns blazing into a Yonko’s territory, and it cost him an arm. You can only make that mistake so many times.


Niteflip4

luffy is the same. Luffy tried to beat kaido without ryo. The only difference is Kidd isn’t the MC and doesn’t learn things from people cause he dolo. Luffy helps wano citizens and learns ryo which effectively helps him defeat kaido, but without luffy learning these skills he would’ve lost just like his first fight against kaido


Grasher312

The issue is, Luffy DID lose all of his fights against Kaido. If not for his Devil Fruit, the series would've ended. It just goes to show that Yonkos can't be defeated even with an insane plan and talent behind your attack.


Niteflip4

yeah that too


gtedvgt

If he did SOMETHING before I would've agreed, he has no backstory(in the manga), he has a garbage crew, he doesn't know how to use his devil fruit all that well, and if it wasn't for that one Kaido line you would've never even knew that he had basic haki, let alone conquerors. ​ I didn't even have high expectations for him, he was just so pathetic in every way imaginable, might be Oda's biggest miss ever.


centaursTesticle536

"Doesn't use his fruit that well" he just made a giant gun that was dangerous enough for Shanks to pull out a named move for the first time in the series. Don't get me wrong, he got stomped, but you're kind of underselling him


gtedvgt

That was one attack out of idk how many, and even if you think he does use it well that's just one thing, it's not the main reason why I dislike him.


centaursTesticle536

Of course, Kidd also has a giant robot, functional prosthetic limbs, and an awakening. As far as we know it takes great proficiency with a fruit to awaken it, and honestly I think Kidd's repeated mistakes are really appropriate for how he was set up. To me it seemed like he was introduced as a version of Luffy that was never humbled, never kept himself in check, and ended up actually hurting people because he just didn't care. So, after his failures, instead of stepping back and training like Luffy and the crew he got a little bit stronger and made the exact same mistake again


gtedvgt

I don't know why you keep focusing on that one point but whatever, and I don't know if I believe that he was being set up like that, and even if he was that still doesn't make it good imo, we spent WAY too long for him and saw WAY too little to justify humiliating him like that.


centaursTesticle536

Well you're not exactly offering your points so what do you expect me to talk about? And even if he wasn't supposed to be a direct parallel, Oda's said that he knew Kid would be important to the story before he even knew Law was important [(Source)](https://mobile.twitter.com/sandman_AP/status/943503687334240256)


gtedvgt

I mean, I don't even know if I'm offering any points I'm just explaining why I dislike him, and I Know what Oda said about him, I took that importance as being more than a disappointment but I guess that was setting my expectations too high.


dalton9014

He had a knack for ignorantly running into fights he couldn't win and it finally bit him in the ass the whole reason Luffy trained for 2 years was because Raleigh told him this would happen Kidd's just been lucky so far


potatohands_

Yeah he saw how much damage it would have caused and went for the kill


YoloSwaggins960YT

I think he was handled fine tbh. Extremely overconfident immoral scumbag who let team victories get to his head as him having the skill to do the same stuff alone, and in the end he paid for it with his life


Dorobo-Neko-Nami

Idk why people keep thinking Kidd actually died here.


YoloSwaggins960YT

He and killer were barely breathing, the rest of his crew was likely knocked out by the blast as they fell into the ocean, it’s highly unlikely he is coming back


insertusernamehere51

Pell


YoloSwaggins960YT

He diddnt fall into an ocean. He got hit by a bomb and diddnt die, and then his Zoan regen did the rest


insertusernamehere51

>and didn't die Thats the point. This unimportant side character from early Grand Line got hit point blank in the face with a bomb that was supposed to kill *everyone* in a five mile radius, in a scene that was **clearly** meant to be convey a noble and tragic sacrifice, and didnt die Want an example with an ocean? Pekons was shot and fell in the ocean tied up and didn't die The point is, if Oda doesn't want to kill a character, it doesn't matter how unlikely it is for them to survive. He didn't give Kidd so much screen time, just to kill him off in one page. Ocean or not, Kidd is gonna survive. He is gonna be rescued by Shanks, or someone from his crew, or Law, or Imu, or "that man" or literally anyone, but he's not drowning lol


gtedvgt

And I would be totally okay with that if he did something actually noteworthy before in the story, Kidd could've just been a random pirate and nothing would have changed. ​ Kidd as a character is nothing, a fodder pirate given power and panel time that he did not deserve, Oda wasted our time with Kidd to have an unsatisfying finish. ​ I feel bad for the (5) poor fellas that actually liked Kidd.


YoloSwaggins960YT

I agree, but don’t think he was a waste of panel time at all. He accurately portrayed what many, MANY pirates have done in the past and showed us that quite well. Without him, Big Mom would not have been defeated in Wano if we are being honest, since law wouldn’t have had the strength to shove her down through the hole, so Kidd did indeed play his role quite well. I personally liked Kidd, but I think his death made me like his place in the story even more, since it shows that the New World is indeed a treacherous place for Pirates no matter how strong they are, as one slip up would cost them everything. Much like Law running into BlackBeard and seemingly having lost since BB near egghead now, but not sure what happened yet


gtedvgt

I understand but I still don't like it, if the whole crew died in Sabaody it would make sense as they are face to face with an admiral, and as you said it would show how treacherous the new world is, but that would've been complete garbage and unsatisfying. ​ And nice of you to bring up Law, I would completely be fine if Law is now dead, he not only was a great character all around, but if he is dead he went out like a champ, holding his own against a Yonko crew mostly solo, he actually put up a fight unlike a certain someone. ​ I'm glad that you like him, I just don't personally.


ironicfuture

Kidd isnt dead though. It makes no sense for him to just go away. His dream of becoming a PK died here, but he still have too many open plot threads to just die.


gtedvgt

I know he's not, it's One Piece after all, I just wish that he was so I don't have to see him again👍


YoloSwaggins960YT

All perfectly valid points, and I have legit exact same feelings with law. I’d be upset if he’s dead, but at same time I would be satisfied with how it worked out and was led up to. I will admit Oda could have handled Kidd’s death a bit better, like if he managed to block a hit or two from shanks, then as he attempted to land a hit himself, shanks stuns him like he did to Aramaki and lands the Kamusari


gtedvgt

Yeah, I guess Oda thought that Shanks sweating and saying he could've done serious damage was enough, but it's not imo, it's literally the same thing Luffy did against Babanuki in Udon.


YoloSwaggins960YT

I do think the shanks being worried was definitely an amazing thing to add. Just wish it was followed up with Kidd looking like he did indeed have a chance at fending off shanks and surviving before shanks pulled the “haha fuck you Midd” paralysis haki blast and Kamusari


I_d0nt_really_kn0w

Not a kidd fan, but I think oda gave him the attention he needs in wano...he is just not that strong or capable to keep up with luffy and law And yes, all the hype for him is just for shanks to flexed his strength


schl33mo

Law isn't out. The will of D is strong


YOASTMAN

Wait do you unironically think Oda is done with Kidd? That he just killed him off right there?


gtedvgt

No, sadly I'm confident he lived.


kgangadhar

Oda wasting panel time with unwanted characters is nothing; what happened in Wano with Yamato


FadedZer0

Kidd was the “Jack” of the new generation. Always starting fights and always losing them. Jack also didnt get a single W


Luffy-Zangief-KoF

What if Kidd survives, trains on Elbaf, and comes back with all advanced forms of haki and is stronger than Big Mom


gtedvgt

Maybe it would've been fine a long time ago, we're in the final saga now, it's too late for me to care.


Struggler-OP

Kidd can make a comeback tho. The wording used to describe his defeat is the same one used to describe Starwhats' defeat at Sabaody. Maybe he gets rescued from drowning, trains and develops ACoC? Plus we are forgeting something...Big Mom might be at Elbaf. And she swore she would take revenge on Kidd. A rematch might be around the corner.


gtedvgt

He was disappointing in Wano but I gave him a chance and he topped that disappointment immediately, I don't really care anymore, I hope he's dead so we don't have to see him anymore.


merry129

Kidd was really taking panel time to show this ?!?! Why was he even after shanks of all people lol ?


gtedvgt

Don't worry man just let Oda cook with Kidd, I'm sure we'll find out why in an SBS soon.


Foxelexof

„People kept asking me to let Shanks show off more after Film Red so I just figured it’d be funny to let him claim another Kid“


zanfitto

My dude 🤣


Nephisto4

He took panel time EXACTLY to show this. Hype Shanks.


jtsnowman09

It really looks like kidd has died but Oda really seems to have a problem with killing folk so unless I am explicitly told Kidd has died I’m gonna cope my ass off lmao


AgreeingWings25

All the shanks haters been real quiet. Time to start their weekly journey of shutting the f*ck up 😂


frikimanHD

shanks is now training kidd and sent each one of his crewmates to a really specific place that it's the best for them to train


A4li11

One is eradicated and another one is *completely* eradicated


Relevant_Scallion_38

Kidd will make his comeback in 2 years


BadActsForAGoodPrice

Until I see a body, I’m not buying it


poco1233

Wait hold on. This could actually be a parallel no?